Not sure why. She's not ugly. She's modestly talented, plays an instrument which puts her one up on most vapid contemporary songstesses. She's fairly
articulate, talks like a human, not something that came out of a valley in L.A.
She's not a rap thug pig with 3 inch fingernails. Maybe it's because her transition from country to pop seemed strategically-planned, probably by a groups of "handlers.? Betrays a flawed "dedication" to the craft.

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/taylor-swift-snl-all-too-well-red-taylors-version-1235111712/

On 2021-11-15 05:37:21 +0000, RichA said:
>
> Not sure why. She's not ugly. She's modestly talented, plays an
> instrument which puts her one up on most vapid contemporary
> songstesses. She's fairly
> articulate, talks like a human, not something that came out of a valley
> in L.A. She's not a rap thug pig with 3 inch fingernails. Maybe it's
> because her transition from country to pop seemed
> strategically-planned, probably by a groups of "handlers.? Betrays a
> flawed "dedication" to the craft.
>
> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/taylor-swift-snl-all-too-well-red-taylors-version-1235111712/
>

She has more sense than all the other pop princesses combined ...
although many of her choices of (rumoured) boyfriends would seem to
indicate otherwise.

In article <bb4fbdc6-bbed-462b-9edd-44f6546bb4c7n@googlegroups.com>,
RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>Not sure why. She's not ugly. She's modestly talented, plays an
>instrument which puts her one up on most vapid contemporary songstesses.
>She's fairly
>articulate, talks like a human, not something that came out of a valley in L.A.
>She's not a rap thug pig with 3 inch fingernails. Maybe it's because
>her transition from country to pop seemed strategically-planned,
>probably by a groups of "handlers.? Betrays a flawed "dedication" to
>the craft.
>
>https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/taylor-swift-snl-all-too-well-red-taylors-version-1235111712/
>
I hate to find myself agreeing with Rich, but I've never had much
of a feel for her music. either. I think it's mostly that I don't
like her voice much -- rather thin and harsh. She also (from some
stuff I've heard) has a bit of a fondness for "non-melodies" mostly
on one note. I compare her to women with voices, like Brenda Lee
or Brandi Carlile, to take a couple of random examples.

I did rather like her 10 minute performance on SNL last night, though.
It's not hate, just lack of interest.

-- Pete --

On 11/15/2021 1:27 AM, Pete wrote:
> In article <bb4fbdc6-bbed-462b-9edd-44f6546bb4c7n@googlegroups.com>,
> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Not sure why. She's not ugly. She's modestly talented, plays an
>> instrument which puts her one up on most vapid contemporary songstesses.
>> She's fairly
>> articulate, talks like a human, not something that came out of a valley in L.A.
>> She's not a rap thug pig with 3 inch fingernails. Maybe it's because
>> her transition from country to pop seemed strategically-planned,
>> probably by a groups of "handlers.? Betrays a flawed "dedication" to
>> the craft.
>>
>> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/taylor-swift-snl-all-too-well-red-taylors-version-1235111712/
>>
> I hate to find myself agreeing with Rich, but I've never had much
> of a feel for her music. either. I think it's mostly that I don't
> like her voice much -- rather thin and harsh. She also (from some
> stuff I've heard) has a bit of a fondness for "non-melodies" mostly
> on one note. I compare her to women with voices, like Brenda Lee
> or Brandi Carlile, to take a couple of random examples.
>
> I did rather like her 10 minute performance on SNL last night, though.
> It's not hate, just lack of interest.

She does a good job with her makeup, I'm sure that helps with her
popularity. Musically if Joni Mitchell had had a lobotomy she still
would've been far more talented. If you really want to put Ms. Swift in
perspective, look for a video on YouTube with Taylor Swift bringing
Stevie Nicks on stage to sing "Rhiannon" with her. Really great singing
coupled with horribly awful singing.

RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not sure why. She's not ugly. She's modestly talented, plays an
> instrument which puts her one up on most vapid contemporary songstesses. She's fairly
> articulate, talks like a human, not something that came out of a valley in L.A.
> She's not a rap thug pig with 3 inch fingernails. Maybe it's because her
> transition from country to pop seemed strategically-planned, probably by
> a groups of "handlers.? Betrays a flawed "dedication" to the craft.
>
> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/taylor-swift-snl-all-too-well-red-taylors-version-1235111712/
>
>

https://youtu.be/TUzjN38g6sw

--
“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”

On 11/15/2021 5:06 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Not sure why. She's not ugly. She's modestly talented, plays an
>> instrument which puts her one up on most vapid contemporary songstesses. She's fairly
>> articulate, talks like a human, not something that came out of a valley in L.A.
>> She's not a rap thug pig with 3 inch fingernails. Maybe it's because her
>> transition from country to pop seemed strategically-planned, probably by
>> a groups of "handlers.? Betrays a flawed "dedication" to the craft.
>>
>> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/taylor-swift-snl-all-too-well-red-taylors-version-1235111712/
>>
>>
>
> https://youtu.be/TUzjN38g6sw

Oh look, Anim8r the freak does read my posts.

On 11/14/2021 11:37 PM, RichA wrote:

I never like brussel sprouts.

On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 04:06:41 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

>RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Not sure why. She's not ugly. She's modestly talented, plays an
>> instrument which puts her one up on most vapid contemporary songstesses. She's fairly
>> articulate, talks like a human, not something that came out of a valley in L.A.
>> She's not a rap thug pig with 3 inch fingernails. Maybe it's because her
>> transition from country to pop seemed strategically-planned, probably by
>> a groups of "handlers.? Betrays a flawed "dedication" to the craft.
>>
>> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/taylor-swift-snl-all-too-well-red-taylors-version-1235111712/
>>
>>
>
>https://youtu.be/TUzjN38g6sw

Ol' Jake sure dodged a bullet there.

On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 04:06:41 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Not sure why. She's not ugly. She's modestly talented, plays an
>> instrument which puts her one up on most vapid contemporary songstesses. She's fairly
>> articulate, talks like a human, not something that came out of a valley in L.A.
>> She's not a rap thug pig with 3 inch fingernails. Maybe it's because her
>> transition from country to pop seemed strategically-planned, probably by
>> a groups of "handlers.? Betrays a flawed "dedication" to the craft.
>>
>> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/taylor-swift-snl-all-too-well-red-taylors-version-1235111712/
>>
>>
>
>https://youtu.be/TUzjN38g6sw

Yeah, she definitely didn't choose the right song for her voice. As
you can see when she gets into her own music her voice works fine for
that song. Of course she's really been successful because of her
ability to come up with great songs and not a fantastic singing voice.

I don't know if it's all true but just reading the top comment says
that this performance helped inspire a CD that got her two Grammy
awards. To be fair Stevie Nicks, while always a great singer, helped
get herself and Fleetwood Mac notice because of her own ability as a
songwriter. Without those great songs I don't know that she would have
got national attention.

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

>. . .

>I don't know if it's all true but just reading the top comment says
>that this performance helped inspire a CD that got her two Grammy
>awards. . . .

Can I just point out the obvious that a Grammy is never awarded for
talent but for sales?

On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:54:51 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>>. . .
>
>>I don't know if it's all true but just reading the top comment says
>>that this performance helped inspire a CD that got her two Grammy
>>awards. . . .
>
>Can I just point out the obvious that a Grammy is never awarded for
>talent but for sales?

True, but sales often follow from a certain amount of talent. Note, I
didn't say singing ability but over all talent in the entertainment
industry which means an ability to come up with a product that the
market wants and properly market it. It's hard to argue that she's not
successful in coming up with a marketable product and getting the
public to buy it.

On 11/15/2021 12:26 PM, shawn wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:54:51 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>
>>> . . .
>>
>>> I don't know if it's all true but just reading the top comment says
>>> that this performance helped inspire a CD that got her two Grammy
>>> awards. . . .
>>
>> Can I just point out the obvious that a Grammy is never awarded for
>> talent but for sales?
>
> True, but sales often follow from a certain amount of talent.

Not in this case. She's fucking terrible. When they finally pry the
microphone from her cold dead hands nobody will give a shit about her
"music." They'll still be playing Floyd and Zeppelin though.