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 by: Daniel65 - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 05:21 UTC

On our ABC News Breakfast program this morning, after looking back at
Yesterday's 'Doctor Who' episode, one of the breakfast shows presenters
mentioned that we may have just seen the last of 'Doctor Who' on
Australian Free-to-Air T.V. as, apparently, the BBC has done some sort
of a deal for Disney's streaming service to carry 'Doctor Who' from now on.

Has anybody else heard anything about this?? Could it be for repeat
screenings of 'Doctor Who' or something??
--
Daniel (who doesn't do Streaming or Pay T.V.!!)

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 by: The True Doctor - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 06:13 UTC

On 26/10/2022 06:21, Daniel65 wrote:
> On our ABC News Breakfast program this morning, after looking back at
> Yesterday's 'Doctor Who' episode, one of the breakfast shows presenters
> mentioned that we may have just seen the last of 'Doctor Who' on
> Australian Free-to-Air T.V. as, apparently, the BBC has done some sort
> of a deal for Disney's streaming service to carry 'Doctor Who' from now on.
>
> Has anybody else heard anything about this?? Could it be for repeat
> screenings of 'Doctor Who' or something??

Ncuti Gatwa has now said this himself.

The BBC is no longer able to sell this show to a single broadcaster
internationally, because it's become complete and utter rubbish, so
they've dumped it on Disney+ at a bargain basement price, since Netfix,
Prime Video, and HBO Max have all rejected it.

Oh, and whatever happened to Moffat's deal with China, where it's
against the law to show movies or TV shows based on Time Travel or
depicting homosexual characters? Or was Moffat telling porkies?

--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
stands for." -William Shatner

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 by: Your Name - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 06:37 UTC

On 2022-10-26 05:21:54 +0000, Daniel65 said:
>
> On our ABC News Breakfast program this morning, after looking back at
> Yesterday's 'Doctor Who' episode, one of the breakfast shows presenters
> mentioned that we may have just seen the last of 'Doctor Who' on
> Australian Free-to-Air T.V. as, apparently, the BBC has done some sort
> of a deal for Disney's streaming service to carry 'Doctor Who' from now
> on.
>
> Has anybody else heard anything about this?? Could it be for repeat
> screenings of 'Doctor Who' or something??

Most places are saying Disney+ has the "international streaming rights"
.... note the word streaming. In some places like New Zealand, "Doctor
Who" has been playing on regular broadcast TV, so that may continue,
but delayed longer and with limited availability on the local broadcast
networks' "on demand" / "catch up" service.

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 by: The True Doctor - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 08:33 UTC

On 26/10/2022 08:59, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 11:13:59 PM UTC-7, The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 26/10/2022 06:21, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> On our ABC News Breakfast program this morning, after looking back at
>>> Yesterday's 'Doctor Who' episode, one of the breakfast shows presenters
>>> mentioned that we may have just seen the last of 'Doctor Who' on
>>> Australian Free-to-Air T.V. as, apparently, the BBC has done some sort
>>> of a deal for Disney's streaming service to carry 'Doctor Who' from now on.
>>>
>>> Has anybody else heard anything about this?? Could it be for repeat
>>> screenings of 'Doctor Who' or something??
>> Ncuti Gatwa has now said this himself.
>>
>> The BBC is no longer able to sell this show to a single broadcaster
>> internationally, because it's become complete and utter rubbish, so
>> they've dumped it on Disney+ at a bargain basement price, since Netfix,
>> Prime Video, and HBO Max have all rejected it.
>>
>> Oh, and whatever happened to Moffat's deal with China, where it's
>> against the law to show movies or TV shows based on Time Travel or
>> depicting homosexual characters? Or was Moffat telling porkies?
>
> China has outlawed time travel shows?????? How weird!

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/china-bans-time-travel-films-177801/

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/china-bans-time-travel

And then Moffat goes and wastes BBC money trying to pimp off Doctor Who
to China known not only this but that China has also imposed bans on
content which includes homosexual characters and characters and
performers who have tattoos, which even resulted in the Eurovision Song
Contest being censored and then banned.

When did Moffat's Doctor Who start being shown in China? I'm still
waiting to find out.

--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
stands for." -William Shatner

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 by: The Last Doctor - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 09:26 UTC

Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On our ABC News Breakfast program this morning, after looking back at
> Yesterday's 'Doctor Who' episode, one of the breakfast shows presenters
> mentioned that we may have just seen the last of 'Doctor Who' on
> Australian Free-to-Air T.V. as, apparently, the BBC has done some sort
> of a deal for Disney's streaming service to carry 'Doctor Who' from now on.
>
> Has anybody else heard anything about this?? Could it be for repeat
> screenings of 'Doctor Who' or something??

Yes. Worldwide streaming rights have gone to Disney+ for all future
episodes, except in the U.K. where it will remain on BBC iPlayer.

First run broadcast rights should not be affected, so it’s possible that
networks can still show new episodes “live” and on short term catch-up
(typically 30 days).

Disney will also be negotiating to pick up worldwide ex-U.K. rights for the
rest of the modern era shows (currently with HBO in the USA, don’t know who
holds them elsewhere) and possibly for the classic catalogue as well,
though that’s a pretty substantial chunk of Britbox’s IP in the U.K. and
USA so might herald the deathknell for Britbox (who might want to farm the
rest of their BBC and ITV back catalogues as channels on Disney+ too, would
be a pretty cheap way for a streaming service to pick up tens of thousands
of hours of high - and low - quality product).

Britbox in the U.K. is about to be demised anyway and wrapped up as part of
the premium tier of ITVX , the new ITV streaming service.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: The Last Doctor - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 14:49 UTC

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <tjaufj$2ei6m$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On our ABC News Breakfast program this morning, after looking back at
>>> Yesterday's 'Doctor Who' episode, one of the breakfast shows presenters
>>> mentioned that we may have just seen the last of 'Doctor Who' on
>>> Australian Free-to-Air T.V. as, apparently, the BBC has done some sort
>>> of a deal for Disney's streaming service to carry 'Doctor Who' from now on.
>>>
>>> Has anybody else heard anything about this?? Could it be for repeat
>>> screenings of 'Doctor Who' or something??
>>
>> Yes. Worldwide streaming rights have gone to Disney+ for all future
>> episodes, except in the U.K. where it will remain on BBC iPlayer.
>>
>> First run broadcast rights should not be affected, so it’s possible that
>> networks can still show new episodes “live” and on short term catch-up
>> (typically 30 days).
>>
>> Disney will also be negotiating to pick up worldwide ex-U.K. rights for the
>> rest of the modern era shows (currently with HBO in the USA, don’t know who
>> holds them elsewhere) and possibly for the classic catalogue as well,
>> though that’s a pretty substantial chunk of Britbox’s IP in the U.K. and
>> USA so might herald the deathknell for Britbox (who might want to farm the
>> rest of their BBC and ITV back catalogues as channels on Disney+ too, would
>> be a pretty cheap way for a streaming service to pick up tens of thousands
>> of hours of high - and low - quality product).
>>
>> Britbox in the U.K. is about to be demised anyway and wrapped up as part of
>> the premium tier of ITVX , the new ITV streaming service.
>>
>
> I suspect current deals with Canada, Aus, NZ will still hold true.

Actually, it’s been confirmed they won’t. I was wrong. Disney+ will be the
sole home of Doctor Who going forward outside of the U.K. and Ireland.

>
> Do you like the new logo?
>

No. It’s hardly new - it’s a variant on the poor 4th Doctor logo that was
also used for the Target novelisations. Looking back is not moving forward.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: The Last Doctor - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 18:16 UTC

tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 7:49:41 AM UTC-7, The Last Doctor wrote:
>> The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> In article <tjaufj$2ei6m$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> Daniel65 <dani...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>> On our ABC News Breakfast program this morning, after looking back at
>>>>> Yesterday's 'Doctor Who' episode, one of the breakfast shows presenters
>>>>> mentioned that we may have just seen the last of 'Doctor Who' on
>>>>> Australian Free-to-Air T.V. as, apparently, the BBC has done some sort
>>>>> of a deal for Disney's streaming service to carry 'Doctor Who' from now on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anybody else heard anything about this?? Could it be for repeat
>>>>> screenings of 'Doctor Who' or something??
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Worldwide streaming rights have gone to Disney+ for all future
>>>> episodes, except in the U.K. where it will remain on BBC iPlayer.
>>>>
>>>> First run broadcast rights should not be affected, so it’s possible that
>>>> networks can still show new episodes “live” and on short term catch-up
>>>> (typically 30 days).
>>>>
>>>> Disney will also be negotiating to pick up worldwide ex-U.K. rights for the
>>>> rest of the modern era shows (currently with HBO in the USA, don’t know who
>>>> holds them elsewhere) and possibly for the classic catalogue as well,
>>>> though that’s a pretty substantial chunk of Britbox’s IP in the U.K. and
>>>> USA so might herald the deathknell for Britbox (who might want to farm the
>>>> rest of their BBC and ITV back catalogues as channels on Disney+ too, would
>>>> be a pretty cheap way for a streaming service to pick up tens of thousands
>>>> of hours of high - and low - quality product).
>>>>
>>>> Britbox in the U.K. is about to be demised anyway and wrapped up as part of
>>>> the premium tier of ITVX , the new ITV streaming service.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I suspect current deals with Canada, Aus, NZ will still hold true.
>> Actually, it’s been confirmed they won’t. I was wrong. Disney+ will be the
>> sole home of Doctor Who going forward outside of the U.K. and Ireland.
>
> So no more Doctor Who on the BBCA?
>

BBC America isn’t Disney+. So the answer to that is self evident.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: Your Name - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 21:08 UTC

On 2022-10-26 14:49:39 +0000, The Last Doctor said:
> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>> In article <tjaufj$2ei6m$1@dont-email.me>,
>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> On our ABC News Breakfast program this morning, after looking back at
>>>> Yesterday's 'Doctor Who' episode, one of the breakfast shows presenters
>>>> mentioned that we may have just seen the last of 'Doctor Who' on
>>>> Australian Free-to-Air T.V. as, apparently, the BBC has done some sort
>>>> of a deal for Disney's streaming service to carry 'Doctor Who' from now on.
>>>>
>>>> Has anybody else heard anything about this?? Could it be for repeat
>>>> screenings of 'Doctor Who' or something??
>>>
>>> Yes. Worldwide streaming rights have gone to Disney+ for all future
>>> episodes, except in the U.K. where it will remain on BBC iPlayer.
>>>
>>> First run broadcast rights should not be affected, so it's possible that
>>> networks can still show new episodes "live" and on short term catch-up
>>> (typically 30 days).
>>>
>>> Disney will also be negotiating to pick up worldwide ex-U.K. rights for
>>> the rest of the modern era shows (currently with HBO in the USA, don't
>>> know who holds them elsewhere) and possibly for the classic catalogue
>>> as well, though that's a pretty substantial chunk of Britbox's IP in
>>> the U.K. and USA so might herald the deathknell for Britbox (who might
>>> want to farm the rest of their BBC and ITV back catalogues as channels
>>> on Disney+ too, would be a pretty cheap way for a streaming service to
>>> pick up tens of thousands of hours of high - and low - quality product).
>>>
>>> Britbox in the U.K. is about to be demised anyway and wrapped up as
>>> part of the premium tier of ITVX , the new ITV streaming service.
>>
>> I suspect current deals with Canada, Aus, NZ will still hold true.
>
> Actually, it's been confirmed they won't. I was wrong. Disney+ will be the
> sole home of Doctor Who going forward outside of the U.K. and Ireland.
>
>> Do you like the new logo?
>
> No. It's hardly new - it's a variant on the poor 4th Doctor logo that was
> also used for the Target novelisations. Looking back is not moving forward.

The logo was probably "rebooted" re-using the old one as part of the
anniversary celebrations. It may well be changed again (along with the
Tardis interior, as usual) when the Specials are over and the black
actor takes over.

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Daniel65 wrote:

> On our ABC News Breakfast program this morning, after looking back at
> Yesterday's 'Doctor Who' episode, one of the breakfast shows
> presenters mentioned that we may have just seen the last of 'Doctor
> Who' on Australian Free-to-Air T.V. as, apparently, the BBC has done
> some sort of a deal for Disney's streaming service to carry 'Doctor
> Who' from now on.
>
> Has anybody else heard anything about this?? Could it be for repeat
> screenings of 'Doctor Who' or something??

I did read that Doctor Who will be streaming on Disney+ outside of the
UK from 2023. It would still be on BBC1 in the UK. A Google search
should find the news item.

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 by: Your Name - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 21:09 UTC

On 2022-10-26 14:49:39 +0000, The Last Doctor said:

> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>> In article <tjaufj$2ei6m$1@dont-email.me>,
>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> On our ABC News Breakfast program this morning, after looking back at
>>>> Yesterday's 'Doctor Who' episode, one of the breakfast shows presenters
>>>> mentioned that we may have just seen the last of 'Doctor Who' on
>>>> Australian Free-to-Air T.V. as, apparently, the BBC has done some sort
>>>> of a deal for Disney's streaming service to carry 'Doctor Who' from now on.
>>>>
>>>> Has anybody else heard anything about this?? Could it be for repeat
>>>> screenings of 'Doctor Who' or something??
>>>
>>> Yes. Worldwide streaming rights have gone to Disney+ for all future
>>> episodes, except in the U.K. where it will remain on BBC iPlayer.
>>>
>>> First run broadcast rights should not be affected, so it's possible that
>>> networks can still show new episodes "live" and on short term catch-up
>>> (typically 30 days).
>>>
>>> Disney will also be negotiating to pick up worldwide ex-U.K. rights for
>>> the rest of the modern era shows (currently with HBO in the USA, don't
>>> know who holds them elsewhere) and possibly for the classic catalogue
>>> as well, though that's a pretty substantial chunk of Britbox's IP in
>>> the U.K. and USA so might herald the deathknell for Britbox (who might
>>> want to farm the rest of their BBC and ITV back catalogues as channels
>>> on Disney+ too, would be a pretty cheap way for a streaming service to
>>> pick up tens of thousands of hours of high - and low - quality product).
>>>
>>> Britbox in the U.K. is about to be demised anyway and wrapped up as
>>> part of the premium tier of ITVX , the new ITV streaming service.
>>
>> I suspect current deals with Canada, Aus, NZ will still hold true.
>
> Actually, it's been confirmed they won't. I was wrong. Disney+ will be the
> sole home of Doctor Who going forward outside of the U.K. and Ireland.

That kind of stupid decision would just hasten the show's already slow demise.

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 by: Blueshirt - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 21:17 UTC

Your Name wrote:

> On 2022-10-26 14:49:39 +0000, The Last Doctor said:
> >
> > Actually, it's been confirmed they won't. I was wrong. Disney+ will
> > be the sole home of Doctor Who going forward outside of the U.K.
> > and Ireland.
>
> That kind of stupid decision would just hasten the show's already
> slow demise.

I don't think so... if my children are anything to go by streaming is
the way to go. They never sit down at a set time to watch a programme
on a normal TV. They stream everything on Prime Video, Netflix or
Disney+ ... when it suits them... which is often very late at night
until the early hours.

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 by: Robert - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 21:33 UTC

On 26/10/2022 06:21, Daniel65 wrote:

> On our ABC News Breakfast program this morning, after looking back at
> Yesterday's 'Doctor Who' episode, one of the breakfast shows presenters
> mentioned that we may have just seen the last of 'Doctor Who' on
> Australian Free-to-Air T.V. as, apparently, the BBC has done some sort
> of a deal for Disney's streaming service to carry 'Doctor Who' from now on.
>
> Has anybody else heard anything about this?? Could it be for repeat
> screenings of 'Doctor Who' or something??

The new episodes usually turn up via torrent within an hour or so of
transmission, so I wouldn't worry too much.

Ta,
--
Rob
"I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational
in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary
to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7

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 by: Your Name - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 21:35 UTC

On 2022-10-26 21:17:53 +0000, Blueshirt said:

> Your Name wrote:
>
>> On 2022-10-26 14:49:39 +0000, The Last Doctor said:
>>>
>>> Actually, it's been confirmed they won't. I was wrong. Disney+ will
>>> be the sole home of Doctor Who going forward outside of the U.K.
>>> and Ireland.
>>
>> That kind of stupid decision would just hasten the show's already
>> slow demise.
>
> I don't think so... if my children are anything to go by streaming is
> the way to go. They never sit down at a set time to watch a programme
> on a normal TV.

You don't need to watch it then and there. We record pretty much
everything from normal TV on a set-top recorder box to watch it when we
want to.

For many free broadcast networks these days you can also watch shows
streamed via their free "on damand" / "catch-up" service (although
you'll need a 'Smart' TV / box or other internet connected device to do
so).

> They stream everything on Prime Video, Netflix or Disney+ ... when it
> suits them... which is often very late at night until the early hours.

Yep, and then they probably complain about never having enough money,
not being able to afford to buy a house, etc. Far too many people these
days waste their money on luxuries and then complain when they can't
afford the necessities, and worse still expect a pay rise (which their
customer s end up paying for and continuing the vicious circle). :-\

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 by: Daniel65 - Thu, 27 Oct 2022 12:51 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 27/10/22 9:15 am:
> In article <tjbhe3$2g33g$1@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
> <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:

<Snip>

>> Actually, it’s been confirmed they won’t. I was wrong. Disney+
>> will be the sole home of Doctor Who going forward outside of the
>> U.K. and Ireland.
>
> I get BBC so ...

So WHAT?? Can't YOU, asswipe, read .... "outside of the U.K. and
Ireland."!! Are YOU, asswipe, in U.K. or are YOU, asswipe, in Ireland??

And I see your UseNet Agent is still stuffing up quoted material, asswipe!!
--
Daniel

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 by: Blueshirt - Thu, 27 Oct 2022 22:05 UTC

Your Name wrote:
> For many free broadcast networks these days you can also watch
> shows streamed via their free "on damand" / "catch-up" service
> (although you'll need a 'Smart' TV / box or other internet
> connected device to do so).

Free broadcasts? We'll have to stop that sort of thing. People should
pay to watch TV programmes or go and read a book! Too many people
want freebies these days.
> > They stream everything on Prime Video, Netflix or Disney+ ...
> > when it suits them... which is often very late at night until
> > the early hours.
>
> Yep, and then they probably complain about never having enough
> money, not being able to afford to buy a house, etc. Far too many
> people these days waste their money on luxuries and then complain
> when they can't afford the necessities, and worse still expect a
> pay rise (which their customer s end up paying for and continuing
> the vicious circle). :-\

At their age, Disney+ & Netflix are necessities!!!

A pay rise? Cough... splutter ... we'll be having none of that sort
of thing either thank you very much.

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 by: Your Name - Fri, 28 Oct 2022 03:43 UTC

On 2022-10-27 22:05:08 +0000, Blueshirt said:
> Your Name wrote:
>>
>> For many free broadcast networks these days you can also watch
>> shows streamed via their free "on damand" / "catch-up" service
>> (although you'll need a 'Smart' TV / box or other internet
>> connected device to do so).
>
> Free broadcasts? We'll have to stop that sort of thing. People should
> pay to watch TV programmes or go and read a book! Too many people
> want freebies these days.

Technically most are not really "free". We pay for them via the higher
product prices due to the expensive adverts the companies buy on those
free TV channels.

Even the BBC in the UK, which doesn't have adverts, is paid for via the
tax-payer and TV license.

>>> They stream everything on Prime Video, Netflix or Disney+ ...
>>> when it suits them... which is often very late at night until
>>> the early hours.
>>
>> Yep, and then they probably complain about never having enough
>> money, not being able to afford to buy a house, etc. Far too many
>> people these days waste their money on luxuries and then complain
>> when they can't afford the necessities, and worse still expect a
>> pay rise (which their customers end up paying for and continuing
>> the vicious circle). :-\
>
> At their age, Disney+ & Netflix are necessities!!!

But the reality is that TV subscriptions, over-priced cafe coffee every
day, new phones every year or two (or even having a mobile phone at
all!), etc. are not necessities at all.

> A pay rise? Cough... splutter ... we'll be having none of that sort
> of thing either thank you very much.

Back when I had a real job, I got *one* pay rise in the 10 years I
worked there. Supposedly it was because I didn't waste my time doing
the inanely ridiculous "Annual Performance Appraisal" nonsense, so they
couldn't give me a pay rise.

Now I'm self-employed and haven't had a pay rise (or raised the prices
I charge my customers) since I started over 20 years ago.

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 by: Your Name - Fri, 28 Oct 2022 03:47 UTC

On 2022-10-28 01:18:55 +0000, tsbr...@gmail.com said:

> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 5:51:47 AM UTC-7, Daniel65 wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 27/10/22 9:15 am:
>>> In article <tjbhe3$2g33g$1...@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor> >
>>> <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> <Snip>>> >> Actually, it’s been confirmed they won’t. I was wrong. Disney+
>>>> will be the sole home of Doctor Who going forward outside of the> >>
>>>> U.K. and Ireland.> >> > I get BBC so ...
>> So WHAT?? Can't YOU, asswipe, read .... "outside of the U.K. and>
>> Ireland."!! Are YOU, asswipe, in U.K. or are YOU, asswipe, in Ireland??
>
> Yads is in Canada the last I heard.

Really?! I thought he lived in fairyland / dream world. ;-)

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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 28 Oct 2022 10:25 UTC

Your Name wrote on 28/10/22 2:43 pm:
> On 2022-10-27 22:05:08 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>> Your Name wrote:
>>>
>>> For many free broadcast networks these days you can also watch
>>> shows streamed via their free "on damand" / "catch-up" service
>>> (although you'll need a 'Smart' TV / box or other internet
>>> connected device to do so).
>>
>> Free broadcasts? We'll have to stop that sort of thing. People should
>> pay to watch TV programmes or go and read a book! Too many people
>> want freebies these days.
>
> Technically most are not really "free". We pay for them via the higher
> product prices due to the expensive adverts the companies buy on those
> free TV channels.
>
> Even the BBC in the UK, which doesn't have adverts, is paid for via the
> tax-payer and TV license.
Here in Australia, our Government funded T.V./Radio/Internet Network,
the A.B.C., used to have a promotional line of "8 cents a day" as that
is/was how much each Australian Man, Woman, Child and Baby 'paid' for
the ABC via Taxes to fund Our ABC!!
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 28 Oct 2022 10:28 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 28/10/22 6:38 am:
> In article <tjdut1$2p584$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 27/10/22 9:15 am:
>>> In article <tjbhe3$2g33g$1@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
>>> <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>>> Actually, it’s been confirmed they won’t. I was
>>>> wrong. Disney+ will be the sole home of Doctor Who going
>>>> forward outside of the U.K. and Ireland.
>>>
>>> I get BBC so ...
>>
>> So WHAT?? Can't YOU, asswipe, read .... "outside of the U.K. and
>> Ireland."!! Are YOU, asswipe, in U.K. or are YOU, asswipe, in
>> Ireland??
>>
>> And I see your UseNet Agent is still stuffing up quoted material,
>> asswipe!!
>
> Hey Idlehands-Mouth Dannyboy? How behind tech are you?

Not very, asswipe! Why?? Might it effect where YOU, asswipe, are??
--
Daniel

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 by: Blueshirt - Fri, 28 Oct 2022 10:59 UTC

Your Name wrote:

> On 2022-10-27 22:05:08 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>
> Technically most are not really "free". We pay for them via the
> higher product prices due to the expensive adverts the companies buy
> on those free TV channels.
>
> Even the BBC in the UK, which doesn't have adverts, is paid for via
> the tax-payer and TV license.

To be honest, I rather pay for a streaming service and have no ads.
Terrestrial TV seems to be all about reality shows and cooking
programmes these days, with or without 'celebrities' that I've never
heard of! The best shows are on streaming platforms. Quality programmes
on 'free' TV are few and far between.

I think Doctor Who on a streaming platform along with Star Wars and
Marvel shows (etc.) will be good for the show outside of the UK. It's
good exposure. I think it will work well.
> > At their age, Disney+ & Netflix are necessities!!!
>
> But the reality is that TV subscriptions, over-priced cafe coffee
> every day, new phones every year or two (or even having a mobile
> phone at all!), etc. are not necessities at all.

Try telling that to the younger generation! They'll look at you like
you've got two heads... if they bother lifting their head up from their
smart-phone in the first place.
> > A pay rise? Cough... splutter ... we'll be having none of that sort
> > of thing either thank you very much.
>
> Now I'm self-employed and haven't had a pay rise (or raised the
> prices I charge my customers) since I started over 20 years ago.

I'm self-employed too. Pay rises are non-existent... but at least I can
take a Friday off if I want to. ;-)

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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 28 Oct 2022 11:21 UTC

Blueshirt wrote on 28/10/22 9:59 pm:

<Snip>

> Try telling that to the younger generation! They'll look at you like
> you've got two heads... if they bother lifting their head up from their
> smart-phone in the first place.

Oh, to come back in forty years or so to see how arthritis/carpal tunnel
syndrome is spreading in the community!! ;-P
--
Daniel

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 by: Blueshirt - Fri, 28 Oct 2022 16:30 UTC

The Doctor wrote:

> In article <tjgcmk$32gpn$1@dont-email.me>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > Your Name wrote:
> >>
> >> Now I'm self-employed and haven't had a pay rise (or raised the
> >> prices I charge my customers) since I started over 20 years ago.
> >
> > I'm self-employed too. Pay rises are non-existent... but at least I
> > can take a Friday off if I want to. ;-)
>
> 3 self-employed people!

Oh I'm sure there's more than three self-employed people around Dave!

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 by: Blueshirt - Fri, 28 Oct 2022 18:18 UTC

tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 5:51:47 AM UTC-7, Daniel65 wrote:
> > So WHAT?? Can't YOU, asswipe, read .... "outside of the U.K. and
> > Ireland."!! Are YOU, asswipe, in U.K. or are YOU, asswipe, in
> > Ireland??
>
> Yads is in Canada the last I heard.

He can stay there!!!

Will he pay for Disney+ to watch Doctor Who next year though, or will
he torrent it?

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 by: Your Name - Fri, 28 Oct 2022 21:04 UTC

On 2022-10-28 10:25:30 +0000, Daniel65 said:

> Your Name wrote on 28/10/22 2:43 pm:
>> On 2022-10-27 22:05:08 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>> Your Name wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For many free broadcast networks these days you can also watch
>>>> shows streamed via their free "on damand" / "catch-up" service
>>>> (although you'll need a 'Smart' TV / box or other internet
>>>> connected device to do so).
>>>
>>> Free broadcasts? We'll have to stop that sort of thing. People should
>>> pay to watch TV programmes or go and read a book! Too many people
>>> want freebies these days.
>>
>> Technically most are not really "free". We pay for them via the higher
>> product prices due to the expensive adverts the companies buy on those
>> free TV channels.
>>
>> Even the BBC in the UK, which doesn't have adverts, is paid for via the
>> tax-payer and TV license.
>
> Here in Australia, our Government funded T.V./Radio/Internet Network,
> the A.B.C., used to have a promotional line of "8 cents a day" as that
> is/was how much each Australian Man, Woman, Child and Baby 'paid' for
> the ABC via Taxes to fund Our ABC!!

That figure is probably from you income tax.

BUT, you then have to add in the extra cost (including extra sales tax
going to the government) due to the higher price of products/services
because the company bought expensive TV advertising.

Then there's your time wasted watching the adverts, or fast-forwarding
through them if you record shows. Plus the extra electricity to watch
those adverts, again with sales tax that goes to the government.

The real cost is more than "8c per day". :-)

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 by: Your Name - Fri, 28 Oct 2022 21:06 UTC

On 2022-10-28 10:59:32 +0000, Blueshirt said:
> Your Name wrote:
>> On 2022-10-27 22:05:08 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>>
>>> At their age, Disney+ & Netflix are necessities!!!
>>
>> But the reality is that TV subscriptions, over-priced cafe coffee
>> every day, new phones every year or two (or even having a mobile
>> phone at all!), etc. are not necessities at all.
>
> Try telling that to the younger generation! They'll look at you like
> you've got two heads... if they bother lifting their head up from their
> smart-phone in the first place.

Make an app game that shows them how much money they'd save. ;-)

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