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 by: solar penguin - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 09:09 UTC

The asswipe asserted:

> In article <tlh1ud$3taua$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The asswipe asserted:
>>
>>> In article <tlge96$3rl50$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The asswipe asserted:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <tlffcu$3pa73$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You keep failing the first criterion - you never
>>>>>> provide a relevant quote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Like the end of Time of the Doctor!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is how ‘The Time of the Doctor’ ends:
>>>>
>>>> DOCTOR: Kidneys! I've got new kidneys. I don't like
>>>> the colour.
>>>> CLARA: Of your kidneys?
>>>> (The Tardis starts lurching from side to side.)
>>>> CLARA: What's happening?
>>>> DOCTOR: We're probably crashing. Oh!
>>>> CLARA: Into what?
>>>> DOCTOR: Stay calm. Just one question. Do you happen
>>>> to know how to fly this thing?
>>>>
>>>> How does that contradict the Timeless Child? How
>>>> does it contradict anything for that matter?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Idlehands-mouth Solar Penguin, you forgot Clara
>>> beggin the Time Lords as the Doctor was Dying!
>>>
>>
>> Liar! That was several minutes before the end!
>>
>> But even if we give you the benefit of the doubt and
>> pretend that really was how the episode ended, how
>> did it contradict anything?
>>

*SNIP* irrelevant Bible quotes. You were supposed to be
providing a quote from the episode, remember?

>
> Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
> KJV reproduced by permission of Cambridge University Press,
>

And I still say that’s a lie. They didn’t give you permission
to spam radw.

>
> So Idlehands-mouth Solar Pengiun, you do not count
> the regeneration at the end?

Which is it? The scene where Clara pleads with the Time
Lords? Or the regeneration at the end?

Let me know when you’ve made your mind up!

>
> And Do you want to be know as Idlehands-mouth SP?
>

Since you keep asking, my answer is no. (And weren’t
you supposed to apologise for calling me that?)

--
solar penguin

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The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> And Teerans are not the same as Monadians.
>>
>> Maybe not - I’m not familiar with either race in Doctor Who. But Terrans
>> and Mondasians are the same species. Mondas was a twin of Earth (see The
>> Tenth Planet). And yes, that’s just stupid. But it’s canon.
>>
>> Idiot.
>>
>
> Genetically speakng?

Yes, as far as we know. To imagine them as different is purely speculative
- we were presented with a world described as Earth’s twin and even the
continents were in the same positions (Mondas had upturned its axes so
south appeared north, but the landmasses were identical.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: The Last Doctor - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 14:45 UTC

The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

>> Not sure what that is, but a few people did indeed want Chibnall to resign.
>> Doesn’t mean that Doctor Who wasn’t still a success story for the BBC.
>
> Chibnall also turned the franchise in a failing flop!

Not as far as the BBC is concerned. It’s been front and centre of centenary
celebrations, is getting not one but three 60th anniversary specials - 2
and 1/2 times the runtime of the 50th - and has just been the subject of a
landmark global streaming deal with Disney+. Doesn’t sound like much of a
failing flop to me.

Idiot.

>> You do not know who was really offered the job. You do not know why they
>> turned it down, if indeed they did. Nor do I, but I’m not the one making
>> shit up and falsely claiming “damaged goods” were on offer.
>
> Many were saying Chibnall is killing the frnachise off!

In your little circle of sad chicken licken losers, yes. In the world at
large, not so much.

And your computer is still broken, you would have thought with the amount
of shit you type it would be able to spell the word.

Idiot.

>>> Because you did that on Facebook and got called out.
>>
>> Liar! I never did any such thing and was never called out on it. That is a
>> total fabrication on your part. How sad and desperate, and you spit on the
>> commandments you profess to venerate, by deliberately and maliciously
>> bearing false witness.
>>
>> Idiot UnChristian Liar!
>>
>
> What about the excahnge we had on DW Infinity.
> You got called out!
> And that's the truth!

Dave, I don’t know who you’re thinking of - Aggie, perhaps? - or if you
dreamed it, but you and I have never had an exchange on DW Infinity - I
have ignored you there because I’m not despoiling another forum by
encouraging your tripe. I blocked you as soon as you appeared.

I never called you names on there - I may have remarked to others that
engaging with you was a waste of time. If I did, I got nothing but
agreement with me. Except, possibly, from you, but that of course wouldn’t
count.

Idiot.

> The Timeless Child is anti-Doctor
> Who and not part of the lore!

No, it’s not, and it is a part of the canon of Doctor Who. DVD and Blu Ray
sets of it all have been published by the BBC and labelled “Doctor Who”.
Because it is. We can debate the quality all we like - I myself think most
of the era has been poor to average. But it is Doctor Who, and to claim
otherwise is delusional and moronic.

Idiot.

[snip tedious repetition of nonsensical crusade against non existent
people. Again.]

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: The Last Doctor - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 14:45 UTC

The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> And Teerans are not the same as Monadians.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe not - I’m not familiar with either race in Doctor Who. But Terrans
>>>> and Mondasians are the same species. Mondas was a twin of Earth (see The
>>>> Tenth Planet). And yes, that’s just stupid. But it’s canon.
>>>>
>>>> Idiot.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Genetically speakng?
>>
>> Yes, as far as we know. To imagine them as different is purely speculative
>> - we were presented with a world described as Earth’s twin and even the
>> continents were in the same positions (Mondas had upturned its axes so
>> south appeared north, but the landmasses were identical.
>>
>
> Still Mondas was a spaceship after it left orbit.

No, it was still a planet. The clue is in the story title.

Idiot.

Apocryphal media (the audio Spare Parts) would have us believe that the
humans of Mondas had to survive deep underground as their world darkened
and cooled in deep space. The initial cyber modifications were intended to
allow them to work on the frozen surface. They didn’t evolve away from
humanity - they whittled away their humanity organ by organ and limb by
limb.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: solar penguin - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 15:11 UTC

The asswipe asserted:

> In article <tli2j8$2aj1$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The asswipe asserted:
>>
>>> In article <tlh5n5$3tjk0$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>> In article <tlh0n7$3t7te$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let’s see : a humanoid is converted into a Cyberman
>>>>>> but the conversion is incomplete. Hmm, am I talking
>>>>>> about Toberman or Ashad? Surely the same statement
>>>>>> can’t apply to both? Oh wait, yes it does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong. toberman is not Mondasian!
>>>>
>>>> I said humanoid, not Mondasian. And there’s no reason
>>>> to assume there’s anything special or different about
>>>> Mondasians.
>>>>
>>>> Idiot.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And Teerans are not the same as Monadians.
>>>
>>
>> Aren’t they? What’s the difference?
>>
>
> Are the genetics the smae?
>

Probably. But it doesn’t matter either way. Cyber conversion
isn’t genetic.

--
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 by: The Last Doctor - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 15:12 UTC

The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

>>> Chibnall also turned the franchise in a failing flop!
>>
>> Not as far as the BBC is concerned. It’s been front and centre of centenary
>> celebrations, is getting not one but three 60th anniversary specials - 2
>> and 1/2 times the runtime of the 50th - and has just been the subject of a
>> landmark global streaming deal with Disney+. Doesn’t sound like much of a
>> failing flop to me.
>>
>> Idiot.

> PAdding the numbers does not help the case of the BBC!

What on Earth are you banging on about now? No-one mentioned any numbers,
“padded” or otherwise. And what case? The BBC is proud of Doctor Who and
happy with its performance. There’s no “case” being put.

Idiot.

>>> Many were saying Chibnall is killing the frnachise off!
>>
>> In your little circle of sad chicken licken losers, yes. In the world at
>> large, not so much.
>>
>
> Truth deniers MM noted!

Put the words in the right order or it just sounds wrong. “MM noted truth
deniers” is a succinct note summarising my previous paragraph, though.
Thanks.

>>> What about the exchange we had on DW Infinity.
>>> You got called out!
>>> And that's the truth!
>>
>> Dave, I don’t know who you’re thinking of - Aggie, perhaps? - or if you
>> dreamed it, but you and I have never had an exchange on DW Infinity - I
>> have ignored you there because I’m not despoiling another forum by
>> encouraging your tripe. I blocked you as soon as you appeared.
>>
>> I never called you names on there - I may have remarked to others that
>> engaging with you was a waste of time. If I did, I got nothing but
>> agreement with me. Except, possibly, from you, but that of course wouldn’t
>> count.
>>
>> Idiot.
>
> Nice try. TTD is not part DWInfinity.

Argyros George Argyrou (AGA aka Aggie) /is/ a former member of DW Infinity,
but it looks like he deleted all his posts and rage quit at some point.
Possibly he got frustrated at being the only educated intelligent person in
a group of 50,000 people all of whom disagreed with him, since everybody
but him is an illiterate uneducated moron (Aggie-speak for people who win
arguments against him, i.e. everyone). So it could have been him, depending
on when this “exchange” took place.

But it wasn’t me you had this “exchange” with so you are still guilty of
bearing false witness. I don’t expect you to do the Christian thing and
apologise, of course, because doing the Christian thing and even
acknowledging your sins is alien to you.

>>> The Timeless Child is anti-Doctor
>>> Who and not part of the lore!
>>
>> No, it’s not, and it is a part of the canon of Doctor Who. DVD and Blu Ray
>> sets of it all have been published by the BBC and labelled “Doctor Who”.
>> Because it is. We can debate the quality all we like - I myself think most
>> of the era has been poor to average. But it is Doctor Who, and to claim
>> otherwise is delusional and moronic.
>>
>> Idiot.
>
> abysmal to poorr for Chibnall / Whittaker !

That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. Still doesn’t mean it’s not
Doctor Who though, no matter how much you dislike it.

>> --
>> There are some corners of the universe
>> which have bred the most terrible things.
>> Things which act against everything we believe in.
>>
>> They must be /fought/.
>
> All chibnall Whittaker suppoters must be /fought/.

Must they? Why do you keep adding this to my quoted .sig (very bad
netiquette that) though, since I’m no cheerleader for Chibnall? Not sure
why you’ve now added Whittaker, she’s not responsible for the writing or
directing quality in her stories and is a fine actor who usually did the
best she could with what she was given, in my opinion.

Idiot.
--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: The Last Doctor - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 15:17 UTC

The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

>>> Still Mondas was a spaceship after it left orbit.
>>
>> No, it was still a planet. The clue is in the story title.
>>
>> Idiot.
>>
>> Apocryphal media (the audio Spare Parts) would have us believe that the
>> humans of Mondas had to survive deep underground as their world darkened
>> and cooled in deep space. The initial cyber modifications were intended to
>> allow them to work on the frozen surface. They didn’t evolve away from
>> humanity - they whittled away their humanity organ by organ and limb by
>> limb.
>
> What about Genesis of the Cybermen?

What bearing does a story idea that was never produced have on the show?
I’m not going to consider every half arsed idea anyone ever had when
discussing the show. That way lies madness.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: solar penguin - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 15:18 UTC

The asswipe asserted:

> In article <tli3kn$2dal$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The asswipe asserted:
>>
>>> In article <tlh1ud$3taua$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The asswipe asserted:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <tlge96$3rl50$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The asswipe asserted:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <tlffcu$3pa73$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You keep failing the first criterion - you never
>>>>>>>> provide a relevant quote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like the end of Time of the Doctor!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is how ‘The Time of the Doctor’ ends:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DOCTOR: Kidneys! I've got new kidneys. I don't like
>>>>>> the colour.
>>>>>> CLARA: Of your kidneys?
>>>>>> (The Tardis starts lurching from side to side.)
>>>>>> CLARA: What's happening?
>>>>>> DOCTOR: We're probably crashing. Oh!
>>>>>> CLARA: Into what?
>>>>>> DOCTOR: Stay calm. Just one question. Do you happen
>>>>>> to know how to fly this thing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does that contradict the Timeless Child? How
>>>>>> does it contradict anything for that matter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Idlehands-mouth Solar Penguin, you forgot Clara
>>>>> beggin the Time Lords as the Doctor was Dying!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Liar! That was several minutes before the end!
>>>>
>>>> But even if we give you the benefit of the doubt and
>>>> pretend that really was how the episode ended, how
>>>> did it contradict anything?
>>>>
>>
>> *SNIP* irrelevant Bible quotes. You were supposed to be
>> providing a quote from the episode, remember?
>>

OTOH if you can’t tell the difference between this
episode and your Bible, that would explain why you’re
so confused about how it ends.

>>>
>>> Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
>>> KJV reproduced by permission of Cambridge University Press,
>>>
>>
>> And I still say that’s a lie. They didn’t give you permission
>> to spam radw.
>>
>>>
>>> So Idlehands-mouth Solar Pengiun, you do not count
>>> the regeneration at the end?
>>
>> Which is it? The scene where Clara pleads with the Time
>> Lords? Or the regeneration at the end?
>>
>> Let me know when you’ve made your mind up!
>>
>
> Start at The scene where Clara pleads with the Time
> Lords and go from there!

That’s quite a long sequence. Can you be more specific?
Which bit of it did you have in mind?

>>>
>>> And Do you want to be know as Idlehands-mouth SP?
>>>
>>
>> Since you keep asking, my answer is no. (And weren’t
>> you supposed to apologise for calling me that?)
>>
>
> Then stop swearing and correct accordingly!
>

Where have I sworn in this thread? How can I stop something
I haven’t started?

--
solar penguin

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The Last Doctor wrote:

> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>
> > PAdding the numbers does not help the case of the BBC!
>
> What on Earth are you banging on about now? No-one mentioned any
> numbers, “padded” or otherwise. And what case? The BBC is proud of
> Doctor Who and happy with its performance. There’s no “case” being
> put.

But how do the BBC pad the numbers anyway, that's what I want to
know... and surely if they were "padding the numbers" they'd pad them
by a heck of a lot more?!!!

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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <nnd$335028b8$1ca64318@6c493454a7d4d942>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > The Last Doctor wrote:
> >
> >> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> > PAdding the numbers does not help the case of the BBC!
> >>
> >> What on Earth are you banging on about now? No-one mentioned any
> >> numbers, “padded” or otherwise. And what case? The BBC is proud of
> >> Doctor Who and happy with its performance. There’s no “case” being
> >> put.
> >
> > But how do the BBC pad the numbers anyway, that's what I want to
> > know... and surely if they were "padding the numbers" they'd pad
> > them by a heck of a lot more?!!!
>
> come on! There wer more thumbs DOWN than up in The
> Chibnall/Whittaker ERa!

YOUR opinion doesn't mean everyone! But you missed the point... the
figures (I assume you mean ratings) for Doctor Who under Chris Chibnall
were generally on the low side so if the BBC were padding the figures,
why didn't they pad them to a respectable level? Logic says that if the
BBC were padding the figures then they would have given the show higher
ratings, not lower!!!

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 by: The Last Doctor - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 23:56 UTC

The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

>> What on Earth are you banging on about now? No-one mentioned any numbers,
>> “padded” or otherwise. And what case? The BBC is proud of Doctor Who and
>> happy with its performance. There’s no “case” being put.
>>
>> Idiot.
>>
> after a very dark and dismal 2018-2022?

There’s still no case being put, and no numbers were mentioned. My term for
the period you mention is “lacklustre”. Nowhere near as bad as you want to
paint it - but if it is still a success (which it is) then we can all move
past it and hope for some new glory days in the future.

> You deny those who had critical concerns of the Chibnall/Whittaker
> Reign of Error!

Since I’m one of those who has criticised and expressed concerns, that can
hardly be true now, can it?

It feels like you just sulk when people aren’t hating Doctor Who as much as
you do.

Idiot.

> You went after me In DWI and got called out for it.

I never did. I’ve never interacted with you in DWI, as I already informed
you.

You’re a vile liar, or confusing me with someone else you’ve had a problem
with. I’m sure there are many such.

We’ve had many an exchange in here (radw) and yes, when I get exasperated
by your continual lies and insults, I sometimes go after you here. And I
know it’s unfair to try to engage you in a battle of wits when you don’t
have the weaponry, so eventually I stop and, usually, killfile you for a
bit so that I don’t keep on at you forever.

Paste a link to this mythical Facebook exchange or stop lying about it.

(You won’t be able to link to it, as it never happened. I wonder if you’re
man enough to stop lying instead of doubling down on your lies again? I
KNOW you’re not man enough to tell the truth and apologise, I’m not looking
for miracles).

>>> abysmal to poorr for Chibnall / Whittaker !
>>
>> That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. Still doesn’t mean
>> it’s not
>> Doctor Who though, no matter how much you dislike it.
>
> Then what the low rating elsewhere by fans?

Part of the low rating was justified. But a lot was review bombing by
misogynists. However, we weren’t actually talking about relative rankings
or the quality of the era until you moved the goalposts. We were talking
about how utterly stupid and insane it is to deny that the era is still
Doctor Who. Which was your claim, so either own your stupidity and insanity
or stop making such deluded claims.

Idiot.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: The Last Doctor - Tue, 22 Nov 2022 23:56 UTC

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <tlip5o$46dq$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Still Mondas was a spaceship after it left orbit.
>>>>
>>>> No, it was still a planet. The clue is in the story title.
>>>>
>>>> Idiot.
>>>>
>>>> Apocryphal media (the audio Spare Parts) would have us believe that the
>>>> humans of Mondas had to survive deep underground as their world darkened
>>>> and cooled in deep space. The initial cyber modifications were intended to
>>>> allow them to work on the frozen surface. They didn’t evolve away from
>>>> humanity - they whittled away their humanity organ by organ and limb by
>>>> limb.
>>>
>>> What about Genesis of the Cybermen?
>>
>> What bearing does a story idea that was never produced have on the show?
>> I’m not going to consider every half arsed idea anyone ever had when
>> discussing the show. That way lies madness.
>>
>
> I read the proposed script that was considered in the 1980s.

So? I didn’t. The BBC production team at the time clearly didn’t think much
of the idea, as a prequel to The Tenth Planet penned by one of its creators
sounds as if it should be a sure winner, but since it sank without trace
that would seem to be an indicator that it was shit.

And again, the canon we need to discuss is the TV show stories that were
made and shown on air. Everything else is apocryphal.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: Idlehands - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 01:54 UTC

On 2022-11-22 5:24 p.m., The Doctor wrote:
> In article <tljnjc$6is8$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
<CHOP>
>
>>> You went after me In DWI and got called out for it.
>>
>> I never did. I’ve never interacted with you in DWI, as I already informed
>> you.
>>
>> You’re a vile liar, or confusing me with someone else you’ve had a problem
>> with. I’m sure there are many such.
>>
>> We’ve had many an exchange in here (radw) and yes, when I get exasperated
>> by your continual lies and insults, I sometimes go after you here. And I
>> know it’s unfair to try to engage you in a battle of wits when you don’t
>> have the weaponry, so eventually I stop and, usually, killfile you for a
>> bit so that I don’t keep on at you forever.
>>
>> Paste a link to this mythical Facebook exchange or stop lying about it.
>>
>> (You won’t be able to link to it, as it never happened. I wonder if you’re
>> man enough to stop lying instead of doubling down on your lies again? I
>> KNOW you’re not man enough to tell the truth and apologise, I’m not looking
>> for miracles).
>>
>
> IT would go very deep as if was 3 to 4 years ago.
>
> Who knows? You may have erasing the exchange to save you skin.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....the last defense of a loser. "You deleted the
exchange".....LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

In other words you have been caught in a lie once again binky but are
not smart enough to stop digging.

So many lies and not one shred of proof about any of them.

--
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
- Benjamin Franklin

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The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:

>> And again, the canon we need to discuss is the TV show stories that were
>> made and shown on air. Everything else is apocryphal.
>
> Genesis of the Cybermen is available online.

No, it isn’t. Not as a story made by the BBC production team and broadcast
as part of the television series.

I added stuff about the audio story “Spare Parts” (which is excellent) but
even though it is licensed Doctor Who material and starred Peter Davison,
it doesn’t count as core canon. If a new Mondasian Cybermen origin story
comes along as part of the show, in future, it would supersede “Spare
Parts”, just as the Tenth Doctor version of “Human Nature” has displaced
the Seventh Doctor novel version as canon - for me, at least.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: Daniel65 - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 07:07 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 23/11/2022 7:57 am:
> In article <tliorq$45kf$1@dont-email.me>,
> Idlehands-mouth solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The asswipe asserted:
>>> In article <tli2j8$2aj1$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The asswipe asserted:
>>>>> In article <tlh5n5$3tjk0$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <tlh0n7$3t7te$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let’s see : a humanoid is converted into a Cyberman
>>>>>>>> but the conversion is incomplete. Hmm, am I talking
>>>>>>>> about Toberman or Ashad? Surely the same statement
>>>>>>>> can’t apply to both? Oh wait, yes it does.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong. toberman is not Mondasian!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I said humanoid, not Mondasian. And there’s no reason
>>>>>> to assume there’s anything special or different about
>>>>>> Mondasians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> And Teerans are not the same as Monadians.
>>>>
>>>> Aren’t they? What’s the difference?
>>>
>>> Are the genetics the smae?

"smae"?? Is that sort-of-like "You *SMEG* HEAD!!"??

>> Probably. But it doesn’t matter either way. Cyber conversion
>> isn’t genetic.
>>
> Proverbs 16:27 Living Bible (TLB)
> 27 Idle hands are the devil's workshop; idle lips are his mouthpiece.
> The Living Bible (TLB)

Gee Whiz!! Don't you just love this, Solar Penguin?? You answer the
Question that the asswipe asks and he tries to belittle you by posting
100+ lines of Biblical Quotes!!

Why do we bother answering the asswipe's questions??
--
Daniel

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 by: The Last Doctor - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 07:51 UTC

The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> You deny those who had critical concerns of the Chibnall/Whittaker
>>> Reign of Error!
>>
>> Since I’m one of those who has criticised and expressed concerns, that can
>> hardly be true now, can it?
>>
>> It feels like you just sulk when people aren’t hating Doctor Who as much as
>> you do.
>>
>> Idiot.
>>
>
> Must of those who have concerns were correct on how chibnall was trying to
> destroy Doctor Who into something it was not.

That is complete tosh. Chibnall initially tried to take Who back in a
classic direction and freshen it up with new writers for series 11 but made
a number of poor choices that worked to the detriment of the whole. For
series 12 he threw away most of the errors and redeemed himself
considerably. Flux was impacted so severely by COVID that it’s impossible
to say if it would have been more coherent and narratively satisfying given
better circumstances and more run time, though the evidence would suggest
it probably wouldn’t.

But at no time was Chibnall “trying to destroy Doctor Who” or turn it into
“something it was not”. And he did neither such thing.

And now, red face time for me:

>>> You went after me In DWI and got called out for it.
>> I never did. I’ve never interacted with you in DWI, as I already informed
>> you.
>> Paste a link to this mythical Facebook exchange or stop lying about it.
>>
>> (You won’t be able to link to it, as it never happened.)
> IT would go very deep as if was 3 to 4 years ago.
>
> Who knows? You may have erasing the exchange to save you skin.

Oh dear. Senior moment. I need to apologise, sort of.

I checked the history and it turns out I DID have ONE exchange with you,
two and a half years ago, although I wasn’t “going after you”, did not get
“called out”, and everybody else on the thread agreed with me.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/DoctorWhoInfinity/permalink/939376919860823/

Your recollection of the nature of the exchange, and its outcomes, is way
off. I think I forgot about it because it was just like a hundred almost
identical threads in here, where you argued, you lost, and you kept on
blustering.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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Daniel declared:

> The Doctor wrote on 23/11/2022 7:57 am:
>> In article <tliorq$45kf$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Idlehands-mouth solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The asswipe asserted:
>>>> In article <tli2j8$2aj1$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> The asswipe asserted:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Teerans are not the same as Monadians.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aren’t they? What’s the difference?
>>>>
>>>> Are the genetics the smae?
>
> "smae"?? Is that sort-of-like "You *SMEG* HEAD!!"??
>
>>> Probably. But it doesn’t matter either way. Cyber
>>> conversion isn’t genetic.
>>>
>> Proverbs 16:27 Living Bible (TLB)
>> 27 Idle hands are the devil's workshop; idle lips are his mouthpiece.
>> The Living Bible (TLB)
>
> Gee Whiz!! Don't you just love this, Solar Penguin?? You
> answer the Question that the asswipe asks and he tries
> to belittle you by posting 100+ lines of Biblical Quotes!!

And he _still_ tries to pretend he’s not a spamtrolling spamtroll.

>
> Why do we bother answering the asswipe's questions??

It’s not like he understands the connection between questions
and answers anyway.

--
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 by: Daniel65 - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 12:27 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 23/11/22 11:18 am:
> In article <nnd$576e05dd$28af4747@f823f7983bd10227>, Blueshirt
> <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote:
>>> In article <nnd$335028b8$1ca64318@6c493454a7d4d942>, Blueshirt
>>> <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>> The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> PAdding the numbers does not help the case of the BBC!
>>>>>
>>>>> What on Earth are you banging on about now? No-one mentioned
>>>>> any numbers, “padded” or otherwise. And what case? The
>>>>> BBC is proud of Doctor Who and happy with its performance.
>>>>> There’s no “case” being put.
>>>>
>>>> But how do the BBC pad the numbers anyway, that's what I want
>>>> to know... and surely if they were "padding the numbers" they'd
>>>> pad them by a heck of a lot more?!!!
>>>
>>> come on! There wer more thumbs DOWN than up in The
>>> Chibnall/Whittaker ERa!
>>
>> YOUR opinion doesn't mean everyone! But you missed the point...
>> the figures (I assume you mean ratings) for Doctor Who under Chris
>> Chibnall were generally on the low side so if the BBC were padding
>> the figures, why didn't they pad them to a respectable level? Logic
>> says that if the BBC were padding the figures then they would have
>> given the show higher ratings, not lower!!!
>
> Correct 100% !
>
I think that means, asswipe, that YOU agree with Blueshirt that the BBC
did not 'pad' the "Doctor Who" rating in any way!!
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Daniel

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 by: solar penguin - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:15 UTC

The asswipe asserted:

> In article <tlip91$46kk$1@dont-email.me>,
> Idlehands-mouth solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The asswipe asserted:
>
> Swearing Idlehands-mouth Solar Penguin caught in action!
>

*SNIP* long list of spamtrolled Bible quotes again

>
> Look at the top Idlehands-mouth Solar Penguin.
>

Have you forgotten which side of the ocean I’m on?

Over here, “arse” is the swear word while “ass” is the cleaner,
sanitised, non-swearing alternative.

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 by: solar penguin - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:21 UTC

The asswipe asserted:

> In article <tlkjdm$b3oi$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>
>> But at no time was Chibnall “trying to destroy Doctor
>> Who” or turn it into“something it was not”. And he did
>> neither such thing.
>>
>
> Then why is Chibnall gettingthe worst showrunner award
> of DW ever?
>

Is he? Google doesn’t know anything about it:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22worst+showrunner+award+of+DW+ever%22

Post proof that the award really exists, or admit that you
we’re lying!

--
solar penguin

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 by: The Last Doctor - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:18 UTC

The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And again, the canon we need to discuss is the TV show stories that were
>>>> made and shown on air. Everything else is apocryphal.
>>>
>>> Genesis of the Cybermen is available online.
>>
>> No, it isn’t. Not as a story made by the BBC production team and broadcast
>> as part of the television series.
>
> Look it up!

No.

Not interested. It’s not part of the show or even of associated licensed
media. If Big Finish Eve run with it and produce it as part of their “Lost
Stories” range, I’ll give it a listen then. Until then, I might as well
include my own fanfic script outlines as that one in discussions - or even,
gods help us all, Aggie’s. Life’s too short.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

Re: Top 10 reasons why the Timeless Child should be retconned from the Doctor Who lore

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 by: The Last Doctor - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:23 UTC

The Idiot <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>
>> But at no time was Chibnall “trying to destroy Doctor Who” or turn it into
>> “something it was not”. And he did neither such thing.
>
> Then why is Chibnall gettingthe worst showrunner award of DW ever?

Is he? What august body is giving out this bizarre award, and who were the
other nominees?

If only the modern era is under consideration, I don’t think you’ll find
many people who’d disagree - each of the three possibilities has their own
weaknesses and problems with the output delivered under their curation, but
Chibnall in most people’s opinion has been the weakest overall of the
three.

BUT: I’m certain all three had the best interests of the show at heart,
regardless of the outcomes. And even if Chibnall “won” the “award” you
claim, that wouldn’t mean he was trying to destroy the show or change it
beyond recognition. So your response is … not valid.

>> I checked the history and it turns out I DID have ONE exchange with you,
>> two and a half years ago, although I wasn’t “going after you”, did not get
>> “called out”, and everybody else on the thread agreed with me.
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/DoctorWhoInfinity/permalink/939376919860823/
>>
>> Your recollection of the nature of the exchange, and its outcomes, is way
>> off. I think I forgot about it because it was just like a hundred almost
>> identical threads in here, where you argued, you lost, and you kept on
>> blustering.
>
> You got caught in the process!

What a stupid response.

I challenge you to look through that thread and find one place where I was
“caught”. Do feel free to quote it when you find it.

I challenge you to find one word of support for your nonsense in that
thread. Do feel free to quote it when you find it.

That should end this! As only silence would follow.

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Re: Top 10 reasons why the Timeless Child should be retconned from the Doctor Who lore

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 by: Daniel65 - Thu, 24 Nov 2022 10:44 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 24/11/22 2:41 am:
> In article <tlldqd$d5mk$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The asswipe asserted:
>>> In article <tlkjdm$b3oi$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But at no time was Chibnall “trying to destroy Doctor
>>>> Who” or turn it into“something it was not”. And he did
>>>> neither such thing.
>>>
>>> Then why is Chibnall gettingthe worst showrunner award
>>> of DW ever?
>>
>> Is he? Google doesn’t know anything about it:
>>
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=%22worst+showrunner+award+of+DW+ever%22
>>
>> Post proof that the award really exists, or admit that you
>> we’re lying!
>
> You trust Google?
>
> Beware the spyware promoted by Google Solar Penguin!

If I were to fed that sentence through "Babelfish", "Google Translate"
or whatever, would the outcome be "You, Solar Penguin, are quite
correct, I was lying my arse off!!"??
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Daniel

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 by: solar penguin - Thu, 24 Nov 2022 11:32 UTC

The asswipe asserted:

> In article <tlldqd$d5mk$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The asswipe asserted:
>>
>>> In article <tlkjdm$b3oi$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But at no time was Chibnall “trying to destroy Doctor
>>>> Who” or turn it into“something it was not”. And he did
>>>> neither such thing.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Then why is Chibnall gettingthe worst showrunner
>>> award of DW ever?
>>>
>>
>> Is he? Google doesn’t know anything about it:
>>
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=%22worst+showrunner+award+of+DW+ever%22
>>
>> Post proof that the award really exists, or admit that
>> you were lying!
>>
>
> You trust Google?
>
> Beware the spyware promoted by Google Solar Penguin!
>

Stop trying to change the subject! Post proof that the “worst
showrunner award of DW ever” is a real award that really
exists, or admit that you were lying.

--
solar penguin

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 by: solar penguin - Thu, 24 Nov 2022 11:32 UTC

The asswipe asserted:

> In article <tlldei$d4mr$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The asswipe asserted:
>>
>>> In article <tlip91$46kk$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Idlehands-mouth solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The asswipe asserted:
>>>
>>> Swearing Idlehands-mouth Solar Penguin caught in action!
>>>
>>
>> *SNIP* long list of spamtrolled Bible quotes again
>>
>>>
>>> Look at the top Idlehands-mouth Solar Penguin.
>>>
>>
>> Have you forgotten which side of the ocean I’m on?
>>
>> Over here, “arse” is the swear word while “ass” is the
>> cleaner, sanitised, non-swearing alternative.
>>

*SNIP* long list of lies and irrelevant Bible quotes that
don’t contain any definitions.

>
> Look at the definition above.
>

Liar! There weren’t any definitions above. Just lies and
irrelevant Bible quotes.

But we’ve wasted enough time on this. You were supposed
to be providing a quote from ‘Time of the Doctor’, remember?

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