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 by: Ubiquitous - Mon, 10 Jan 2022 14:00 UTC

tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:

>http://io9.com/5824976/weve-seen-the-unaired-wonder-woman-pilot
>
>"It's really very jarring," notes the i09 blog. "David E. Kelley boils
>down superheroes to a shriveled core of violence, arrogance and
>meanness, like the worst of early 1990s Image Comics heroes."

I have no memory of this show!

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Let's go Brandon!

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In article <srhe57$fj$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
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> tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >http://io9.com/5824976/weve-seen-the-unaired-wonder-woman-pilot
> >
> >"It's really very jarring," notes the i09 blog. "David E. Kelley boils
> >down superheroes to a shriveled core of violence, arrogance and
> >meanness, like the worst of early 1990s Image Comics heroes."
>
> I have no memory of this show!

I do. They wanted WW to be James Bond.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Mon, 10 Jan 2022 14:33 UTC

Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> http://io9.com/5824976/weve-seen-the-unaired-wonder-woman-pilot
>>
>> "It's really very jarring," notes the i09 blog. "David E. Kelley boils
>> down superheroes to a shriveled core of violence, arrogance and
>> meanness, like the worst of early 1990s Image Comics heroes."
>
> I have no memory of this show!

It was just a Pilot. I don’t think it ever aired. I saw it on the gray.

A lot of it got leaked. There was screaming early on about how they screwed
up the costume and they actually went in and corrected it.

>
> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>

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A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
> In article <srhe57$fj$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
> wrote:
>
>> tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> http://io9.com/5824976/weve-seen-the-unaired-wonder-woman-pilot
>>>
>>> "It's really very jarring," notes the i09 blog. "David E. Kelley boils
>>> down superheroes to a shriveled core of violence, arrogance and
>>> meanness, like the worst of early 1990s Image Comics heroes."
>>
>> I have no memory of this show!
>
>
> I do. They wanted WW to be James Bond.
>

Like Cathy Lee Crosby

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On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 09:05:04 -0500, A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:

>In article <srhe57$fj$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
>wrote:
>
>> tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >http://io9.com/5824976/weve-seen-the-unaired-wonder-woman-pilot
>> >
>> >"It's really very jarring," notes the i09 blog. "David E. Kelley boils
>> >down superheroes to a shriveled core of violence, arrogance and
>> >meanness, like the worst of early 1990s Image Comics heroes."
>>
>> I have no memory of this show!
>
>
>I do. They wanted WW to be James Bond.

I never saw the pilot episode. I do remember talk about the show but
all I can recall was some talk about her outfit.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Mon, 10 Jan 2022 16:09 UTC

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 09:05:04 -0500, A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <srhe57$fj$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://io9.com/5824976/weve-seen-the-unaired-wonder-woman-pilot
>>>>
>>>> "It's really very jarring," notes the i09 blog. "David E. Kelley boils
>>>> down superheroes to a shriveled core of violence, arrogance and
>>>> meanness, like the worst of early 1990s Image Comics heroes."
>>>
>>> I have no memory of this show!
>>
>>
>> I do. They wanted WW to be James Bond.
>
> I never saw the pilot episode. I do remember talk about the show but
> all I can recall was some talk about her outfit.
>

That’s pretty much all that the talk amounted to.

--
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anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>> tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:

>>> http://io9.com/5824976/weve-seen-the-unaired-wonder-woman-pilot
>>>
>>> "It's really very jarring," notes the i09 blog. "David E. Kelley boils
>>> down superheroes to a shriveled core of violence, arrogance and
>>> meanness, like the worst of early 1990s Image Comics heroes."
>>
>> I have no memory of this show!
>
>It was just a Pilot. I don't think it ever aired. I saw it on the gray.
>
>A lot of it got leaked. There was screaming early on about how they screwed
>up the costume and they actually went in and corrected it.

No wonder (heh) I didn't remember. I just noticed I was replying to an
article from 2011 that appeared on my reader! Hmm, there are a bunch
of old postings appearing today...

--
Let's go Brandon!

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 by: Your Name - Mon, 10 Jan 2022 21:18 UTC

On 2022-01-10 14:00:06 +0000, Ubiquitous said:
> tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> http://io9.com/5824976/weve-seen-the-unaired-wonder-woman-pilot
>>
>> "It's really very jarring," notes the i09 blog. "David E. Kelley boils
>> down superheroes to a shriveled core of violence, arrogance and
>> meanness, like the worst of early 1990s Image Comics heroes."
>
> I have no memory of this show!

Because it's an "unaired pilot". ;-)

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 by: Your Name - Mon, 10 Jan 2022 21:32 UTC

On 2022-01-10 15:24:27 +0000, shawn said:
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 09:05:04 -0500, A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
>> In article <srhe57$fj$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
>> wrote:
>>> tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://io9.com/5824976/weve-seen-the-unaired-wonder-woman-pilot
>>>>
>>>> "It's really very jarring," notes the i09 blog. "David E. Kelley boils
>>>> down superheroes to a shriveled core of violence, arrogance and
>>>> meanness, like the worst of early 1990s Image Comics heroes."
>>>
>>> I have no memory of this show!
>>
>> I do. They wanted WW to be James Bond.
>
> I never saw the pilot episode. I do remember talk about the show but
> all I can recall was some talk about her outfit.

It starred Adrienne Palicki ("The Orville") and Lynda Carter (original
TV "Wonder Woman"), as well as Tom Welling ("Smallville") ... and
Elizabeth Hurley, who pretty much guaranteed it would be a failure even
if it had made it to air.

The quality isn't very good, but it's available all over the place:
<https://streamtape.com/v/Zxap00kbmKfqejm>
<https://mixdrop.co/f/qlvnojm4bw8dv6>

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 by: The Horny Goat - Tue, 11 Jan 2022 01:59 UTC

On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:05:35 -0500, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:

>>It was just a Pilot. I don't think it ever aired. I saw it on the gray.
>>
>>A lot of it got leaked. There was screaming early on about how they screwed
>>up the costume and they actually went in and corrected it.
>
>No wonder (heh) I didn't remember. I just noticed I was replying to an
>article from 2011 that appeared on my reader! Hmm, there are a bunch
>of old postings appearing today...

Could be your browser - I found myself "replying" to a lot of 6 month
old messages which turned out to be replies I had written 6 months
previously but had seemingly been retained and after the next update
(or some other glitch) had sent themselves a second time with December
date stamps.....

"All software sucks ..... some software absolutely sucks absolutely!"

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Subject: Re: Why the "Wonder Woman" pilot failed: It didn't understand superheroes
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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Tue, 11 Jan 2022 02:15 UTC

The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:05:35 -0500, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

>>>It was just a Pilot. I don't think it ever aired. I saw it on the gray.

>>>A lot of it got leaked. There was screaming early on about how they screwed
>>>up the costume and they actually went in and corrected it.

>>No wonder (heh) I didn't remember. I just noticed I was replying to an
>>article from 2011 that appeared on my reader! Hmm, there are a bunch
>>of old postings appearing today...

>Could be your browser . . .

Browser? Give me a break. It's a newsreader.

freedyn.de has been re-injecting lots and lots of old articles
into Usenet. For some reason, eternal-september didn't reject the
articles as it should have.

Check the Date header on an article you are reading. If it's an old
article, then check the Path header to see if it's from freedyn.de

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 by: The Horny Goat - Tue, 11 Jan 2022 03:15 UTC

On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 02:15:45 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>Check the Date header on an article you are reading. If it's an old
>article, then check the Path header to see if it's from freedyn.de

Thanks for the feedback. The ones that seemed odd I let be deleted the
week after Christmas. Generally once read I don't keep stuff unless I
have some particular reason to save them.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Tue, 11 Jan 2022 03:27 UTC

The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 02:15:45 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>:

>>Check the Date header on an article you are reading. If it's an old
>>article, then check the Path header to see if it's from freedyn.de

>Thanks for the feedback. The ones that seemed odd I let be deleted the
>week after Christmas. Generally once read I don't keep stuff unless I
>have some particular reason to save them.

Not that far back. It's just been going on for the last few days.

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 by: Your Name - Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:02 UTC

On 2022-01-11 01:59:28 +0000, The Horny Goat said:
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> "All software sucks ..... some software absolutely sucks absolutely!"

And then you go even further downthe toilet and find Microsoft! ;-)

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 by: Ubiquitous - Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:36 UTC

In article <srip8h$qau$1@dont-email.me>, ahk@chinet.com wrote:
> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:05:35 -0500, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

>>>>It was just a Pilot. I don't think it ever aired. I saw it on the gray.
>>>>
>>>>A lot of it got leaked. There was screaming early on about how they
>>>>screwed up the costume and they actually went in and corrected it.
>>>
>>>No wonder (heh) I didn't remember. I just noticed I was replying to an
>>>article from 2011 that appeared on my reader! Hmm, there are a bunch
>>>of old postings appearing today...
>>
>>Could be your browser . . .
>
>Browser? Give me a break. It's a newsreader.

Did you know that some apps run in web browsers?

>freedyn.de has been re-injecting lots and lots of old articles
>into Usenet. For some reason, eternal-september didn't reject the
>articles as it should have.
>
>Check the Date header on an article you are reading. If it's an old
>article, then check the Path header to see if it's from freedyn.de

I do not see any Path headers like that.

[Kerman's incorrect formatting fixed.]

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 by: Rhino - Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:44 UTC

On 2022-01-10 9:00 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
> tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> http://io9.com/5824976/weve-seen-the-unaired-wonder-woman-pilot
>>
>> "It's really very jarring," notes the i09 blog. "David E. Kelley boils
>> down superheroes to a shriveled core of violence, arrogance and
>> meanness, like the worst of early 1990s Image Comics heroes."
>
> I have no memory of this show!
>
Maybe that's because this thread is 11 years old.

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 by: Your Name - Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:49 UTC

On 2022-01-11 12:44:20 +0000, Rhino said:
> On 2022-01-10 9:00 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> http://io9.com/5824976/weve-seen-the-unaired-wonder-woman-pilot
>>>
>>> "It's really very jarring," notes the i09 blog. "David E. Kelley boils
>>> down superheroes to a shriveled core of violence, arrogance and
>>> meanness, like the worst of early 1990s Image Comics heroes."
>>
>> I have no memory of this show!
>
> Maybe that's because this thread is 11 years old.

I didn't realise human memories only lasted 10 years ... but it would
certainly explain a lot. ;-)

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