-Go to an R-rated movie? No.
-Buy alcohol? No.
-Buy a gun? No.
-Claim welfare? No.
-Get a driver license? No.
-Get a tax refund? No.
-Travel abroad? No.
-Take out a library book? No.

So why no I.D. to vote?

On Jan 18, 2022 at 4:20:05 PM PST, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
> -Buy alcohol? No.
> -Buy a gun? No.
> -Claim welfare? No.
> -Get a driver license? No.
> -Get a tax refund? No.
> -Travel abroad? No.
> -Take out a library book? No.
>
> So why no I.D. to vote?

Democrats don't want you to show an ID to vote so they can get elected and
require you to show an ID to buy food.

On Tuesday, 18 January 2022 at 19:26:26 UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2022 at 4:20:05 PM PST, "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
> > -Buy alcohol? No.
> > -Buy a gun? No.
> > -Claim welfare? No.
> > -Get a driver license? No.
> > -Get a tax refund? No.
> > -Travel abroad? No.
> > -Take out a library book? No.
> >
> > So why no I.D. to vote?
> Democrats don't want you to show an ID to vote so they can get elected and
> require you to show an ID to buy food.

You won't have to buy. You'll be given your weekly ration of soylent yellow.

On 1/18/2022 4:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2022 at 4:20:05 PM PST, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
>> -Buy alcohol? No.
>> -Buy a gun? No.
>> -Claim welfare? No.
>> -Get a driver license? No.
>> -Get a tax refund? No.
>> -Travel abroad? No.
>> -Take out a library book? No.
>>
>> So why no I.D. to vote?
>
> Democrats don't want you to show an ID to vote so they can get elected and
> require you to show an ID to buy food.
>
>
Hyperbole.

On Jan 18, 2022 at 6:04:39 PM PST, "suzeeq" <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

> On 1/18/2022 4:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Jan 18, 2022 at 4:20:05 PM PST, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
>>> -Buy alcohol? No.
>>> -Buy a gun? No.
>>> -Claim welfare? No.
>>> -Get a driver license? No.
>>> -Get a tax refund? No.
>>> -Travel abroad? No.
>>> -Take out a library book? No.
>>>
>>> So why no I.D. to vote?
>>
>> Democrats don't want you to show an ID to vote so they can get elected and
>> require you to show an ID to buy food.
>>
> Hyperbole.

Not where I live, it isn't. Maybe you haven't had the pleasure of living with
a vaccine passport to do pretty much anything, but here it's not hyperbole.

RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

>-Go to an R-rated movie? No.

I've never showed ID.

>-Buy alcohol? No.
>-Buy a gun? No.

Texas doesn't require ID.

>-Claim welfare? No.
>-Get a driver license? No.

>-Get a tax refund? No.

That's a lie.

>-Travel abroad? No.
>-Take out a library book? No.

>So why no I.D. to vote?

Because you're already registered to vote.

On 1/18/2022 7:20 PM, RichA wrote:
> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
> -Buy alcohol? No.
> -Buy a gun? No.
> -Claim welfare? No.
> -Get a driver license? No.
> -Get a tax refund? No.
> -Travel abroad? No.
> -Take out a library book? No.
>
> So why no I.D. to vote?

Umm... maybe because lots of folks would do most of those illegally?

(Unlike voting?)

On 1/18/2022 6:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2022 at 6:04:39 PM PST, "suzeeq" <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/18/2022 4:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Jan 18, 2022 at 4:20:05 PM PST, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
>>>> -Buy alcohol? No.
>>>> -Buy a gun? No.
>>>> -Claim welfare? No.
>>>> -Get a driver license? No.
>>>> -Get a tax refund? No.
>>>> -Travel abroad? No.
>>>> -Take out a library book? No.
>>>>
>>>> So why no I.D. to vote?
>>>
>>> Democrats don't want you to show an ID to vote so they can get elected and
>>> require you to show an ID to buy food.
>>>
>> Hyperbole.
>
> Not where I live, it isn't. Maybe you haven't had the pleasure of living with
> a vaccine passport to do pretty much anything, but here it's not hyperbole.

Our governor has declared there will be no vaccine passports.

On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 20:18:48 -0600, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>Not where I live, it isn't. Maybe you haven't had the pleasure of living with
>a vaccine passport to do pretty much anything, but here it's not hyperbole.

While we DO have vaccine passports here (mostly used in restaurants)
in places like grocery stores and libraries they mnstly make sure
you're wearing a mask and leave it at that.

At my favorite eatery I've had to show my passport ONCE and I'm there
often enough they recognize me and don't bother asking again. Given
the passport is built around a VR code I do not know whether I need a
new 'passport' as I've received a booster since the last printed copy
of a passport was taken (I don't carry a cell phone so paper it is)

On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 20:14:25 -0800, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

>On 1/18/2022 6:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Jan 18, 2022 at 6:04:39 PM PST, "suzeeq" <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/18/2022 4:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On Jan 18, 2022 at 4:20:05 PM PST, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
>>>>> -Buy alcohol? No.
>>>>> -Buy a gun? No.
>>>>> -Claim welfare? No.
>>>>> -Get a driver license? No.
>>>>> -Get a tax refund? No.
>>>>> -Travel abroad? No.
>>>>> -Take out a library book? No.
>>>>>
>>>>> So why no I.D. to vote?
>>>>
>>>> Democrats don't want you to show an ID to vote so they can get elected and
>>>> require you to show an ID to buy food.
>>>>
>>> Hyperbole.
>>
>> Not where I live, it isn't. Maybe you haven't had the pleasure of living with
>> a vaccine passport to do pretty much anything, but here it's not hyperbole.
>
>Our governor has declared there will be no vaccine passports.

Ours too.

On Tuesday, 18 January 2022 at 23:14:30 UTC-5, suzeeq wrote:
> On 1/18/2022 6:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > On Jan 18, 2022 at 6:04:39 PM PST, "suzeeq" <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 1/18/2022 4:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> On Jan 18, 2022 at 4:20:05 PM PST, "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
> >>>> -Buy alcohol? No.
> >>>> -Buy a gun? No.
> >>>> -Claim welfare? No.
> >>>> -Get a driver license? No.
> >>>> -Get a tax refund? No.
> >>>> -Travel abroad? No.
> >>>> -Take out a library book? No.
> >>>>
> >>>> So why no I.D. to vote?
> >>>
> >>> Democrats don't want you to show an ID to vote so they can get elected and
> >>> require you to show an ID to buy food.
> >>>
> >> Hyperbole.
> >
> > Not where I live, it isn't. Maybe you haven't had the pleasure of living with
> > a vaccine passport to do pretty much anything, but here it's not hyperbole.
> Our governor has declared there will be no vaccine passports.

What's the difference between a vaccine passport and proof of vaccination?

On 2022-01-18 5:20 p.m., RichA wrote:
> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
There is no legal requirement for any kind of ID to be shown when going
into an R-Rated movie and the ticket takers won't bother asking unless
you look baby-faced. A geezer like you could go into all the porn films
you wanted and nobody would ask you for ID.

> -Buy alcohol? No.
> -Buy a gun? No.
All they need to do is find a private seller.

> -Claim welfare? No.
They do not need government issued photo ID (which is what is "valid" by
the voter ID laws) to claim welfare in most states.

> -Get a driver license? No.
If they needed government issued photo ID to get their government issued
photo ID they'd never get their government issued photo ID

> -Get a tax refund? No.
Gpvernment issued photo ID is not required. All that is needed is a
social security number.

> -Travel abroad? No.
> -Take out a library book? No.
Nobody needs government issued photo ID to take out a library book.

RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 18 January 2022 at 23:14:30 UTC-5, suzeeq wrote:
>> On 1/18/2022 6:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Jan 18, 2022 at 6:04:39 PM PST, "suzeeq" <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/18/2022 4:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2022 at 4:20:05 PM PST, "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
>>>>>> -Buy alcohol? No.
>>>>>> -Buy a gun? No.
>>>>>> -Claim welfare? No.
>>>>>> -Get a driver license? No.
>>>>>> -Get a tax refund? No.
>>>>>> -Travel abroad? No.
>>>>>> -Take out a library book? No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So why no I.D. to vote?
>>>>>
>>>>> Democrats don't want you to show an ID to vote so they can get elected and
>>>>> require you to show an ID to buy food.
>>>>>
>>>> Hyperbole.
>>>
>>> Not where I live, it isn't. Maybe you haven't had the pleasure of living with
>>> a vaccine passport to do pretty much anything, but here it's not hyperbole.
>> Our governor has declared there will be no vaccine passports.
>
> What's the difference between a vaccine passport and proof of vaccination?
>

50 bucks. Same as in town.

--
“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”

On Wednesday, 19 January 2022 at 00:44:36 UTC-5, David Johnston wrote:
> On 2022-01-18 5:20 p.m., RichA wrote:
> > -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
> There is no legal requirement for any kind of ID to be shown when going
> into an R-Rated movie and the ticket takers won't bother asking unless
> you look baby-faced. A geezer like you could go into all the porn films
> you wanted and nobody would ask you for ID.

Again, illegal. Just like fraud voters.
ILLEGALLY entering, if you are under age. Is that how fake voters do it too?
> > -Buy alcohol? No.
> > -Buy a gun? No.
> All they need to do is find a private seller.

>
> > -Claim welfare? No.
> They do not need government issued photo ID (which is what is "valid" by
> the voter ID laws) to claim welfare in most states.

> > -Get a driver license? No.
> If they needed government issued photo ID to get their government issued
> photo ID they'd never get their government issued photo ID
> > -Get a tax refund? No.
> Gpvernment issued photo ID is not required. All that is needed is a
> social security number.

Why are you bouncing around from photo I.D. to just I.D.? Tax refunds also require submitting documents or codes to access the website to claim it.
> > -Travel abroad? No.
> > -Take out a library book? No.
> Nobody needs government issued photo ID to take out a library book.
Try to get a library CARD without I.D.

On 2022-01-18 11:01 p.m., RichA wrote:
> On Wednesday, 19 January 2022 at 00:44:36 UTC-5, David Johnston wrote:
>> On 2022-01-18 5:20 p.m., RichA wrote:
>>> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
>> There is no legal requirement for any kind of ID to be shown when going
>> into an R-Rated movie and the ticket takers won't bother asking unless
>> you look baby-faced. A geezer like you could go into all the porn films
>> you wanted and nobody would ask you for ID.
>
> Again, illegal. Just like fraud voters.

Wrong again. There is no law requiring ID to be checked when going into
a movie theatre regardless of the rating of the movie. "R-rated" movies
aren't a thing legally. They are strictly a private deal between the
MPAA and NATO. No, not that NATO.

> ILLEGALLY entering, if you are under age. Is that how fake voters do it too?
>>> -Buy alcohol? No.
>>> -Buy a gun? No.
>> All they need to do is find a private seller.
>
>>
>>> -Claim welfare? No.
>> They do not need government issued photo ID (which is what is "valid" by
>> the voter ID laws) to claim welfare in most states.
>
>
>>> -Get a driver license? No.
>> If they needed government issued photo ID to get their government issued
>> photo ID they'd never get their government issued photo ID
>>> -Get a tax refund? No.
>> Gpvernment issued photo ID is not required. All that is needed is a
>> social security number.
>
> Why are you bouncing around from photo I.D. to just I.D.? Tax refunds also require submitting documents or codes to access the website to claim it.
>>> -Travel abroad? No.
>>> -Take out a library book? No.
>> Nobody needs government issued photo ID to take out a library book.
> Try to get a library CARD without I.D.

Been there, done that. Got the tote bag. The only thing they asked me
for was was my address and my phone number. You're like Donald Trump
claiming you need photo I.D. to shop for groceries because he's never
done it and has no idea what's involved. Why the hell would a library
demand photo ID? That would be ludicrous.

On 1/19/2022 12:01 AM, RichA wrote:
> On Wednesday, 19 January 2022 at 00:44:36 UTC-5, David Johnston wrote:
>> On 2022-01-18 5:20 p.m., RichA wrote:
>>> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
>> There is no legal requirement for any kind of ID to be shown when going
>> into an R-Rated movie and the ticket takers won't bother asking unless
>> you look baby-faced. A geezer like you could go into all the porn films
>> you wanted and nobody would ask you for ID.
>
> Again, illegal. Just like fraud voters.
> ILLEGALLY entering, if you are under age. Is that how fake voters do it too?
>>> -Buy alcohol? No.
>>> -Buy a gun? No.
>> All they need to do is find a private seller.
>
>>
>>> -Claim welfare? No.
>> They do not need government issued photo ID (which is what is "valid" by
>> the voter ID laws) to claim welfare in most states.
>
>
>>> -Get a driver license? No.
>> If they needed government issued photo ID to get their government issued
>> photo ID they'd never get their government issued photo ID
>>> -Get a tax refund? No.
>> Gpvernment issued photo ID is not required. All that is needed is a
>> social security number.
>
> Why are you bouncing around from photo I.D. to just I.D.? Tax refunds also require submitting documents or codes to access the website to claim it.

What country requires going to a website to get a tax refund? Besides
none I mean.

On Jan 18, 2022 at 8:14:25 PM PST, "suzeeq" <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

> On 1/18/2022 6:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Jan 18, 2022 at 6:04:39 PM PST, "suzeeq" <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/18/2022 4:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On Jan 18, 2022 at 4:20:05 PM PST, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
>>>>> -Buy alcohol? No.
>>>>> -Buy a gun? No.
>>>>> -Claim welfare? No.
>>>>> -Get a driver license? No.
>>>>> -Get a tax refund? No.
>>>>> -Travel abroad? No.
>>>>> -Take out a library book? No.
>>>>>
>>>>> So why no I.D. to vote?
>>>>
>>>> Democrats don't want you to show an ID to vote so they can get elected and
>>>> require you to show an ID to buy food.
>>>>
>>> Hyperbole.
>>
>> Not where I live, it isn't. Maybe you haven't had the pleasure of living
>> with
>> a vaccine passport to do pretty much anything, but here it's not hyperbole.
>
> Our governor has declared there will be no vaccine passports.

Well, then, see? You don't really know how much fun it is.

On 1/18/2022 8:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2022 at 6:04:39 PM PST, "suzeeq" <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/18/2022 4:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Jan 18, 2022 at 4:20:05 PM PST, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
>>>> -Buy alcohol? No.
>>>> -Buy a gun? No.
>>>> -Claim welfare? No.
>>>> -Get a driver license? No.
>>>> -Get a tax refund? No.
>>>> -Travel abroad? No.
>>>> -Take out a library book? No.
>>>>
>>>> So why no I.D. to vote?
>>>
>>> Democrats don't want you to show an ID to vote so they can get elected and
>>> require you to show an ID to buy food.
>>>
>> Hyperbole.
>
> Not where I live, it isn't. Maybe you haven't had the pleasure of living with
> a vaccine passport to do pretty much anything, but here it's not hyperbole.

So you need a "vaccine passport" to buy food? I think you've advance
beyond plain lying to exhibiting mental illness. Are you being treated
for this? Is this what got you fired from your supposed job?

On 1/18/2022 6:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2022 at 4:20:05 PM PST, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
>> -Buy alcohol? No.
>> -Buy a gun? No.
>> -Claim welfare? No.
>> -Get a driver license? No.
>> -Get a tax refund? No.
>> -Travel abroad? No.
>> -Take out a library book? No.
>>
>> So why no I.D. to vote?
>
> Democrats don't want you to show an ID to vote so they can get elected and
> require you to show an ID to buy food.

Wait, what? Did "Rich" just call Republicans a bunch of assholes?

On 2022-01-19 12:44 AM, David Johnston wrote:
>
>
> On 2022-01-18 5:20 p.m., RichA wrote:
> > -Go to an R-rated movie?  No.
> There is no legal requirement for any kind of ID to be shown when going
> into an R-Rated movie and the ticket takers won't bother asking unless
> you look baby-faced.  A geezer like you could go into all the porn films
> you wanted and nobody would ask you for ID.
>
> > -Buy alcohol?  No.
> > -Buy a gun?  No.
> All they need to do is find a private seller.
>
> > -Claim welfare?  No.
> They do not need government issued photo ID (which is what is "valid" by
> the voter ID laws) to claim welfare in most states.
>
> > -Get a driver license?  No.
> If they needed government issued photo ID to get their government issued
> photo ID they'd never get their government issued photo ID
>
> > -Get a tax refund?  No.
> Gpvernment issued photo ID is not required.  All that is needed is a
> social security number.
>
> > -Travel abroad?  No.
> > -Take out a library book?  No.
> Nobody needs government issued photo ID to take out a library book.
>

You don't need photo ID to take out a book but you may need it to get
your library card!

The last time I took out a library card after a move to a new city, in
2017, I'm pretty sure I had to show ID to prove that I lived in the
city. I gave them my driver's license which has both a photo and my
correct address. I don't remember what specific ID they required though;
I expect they had a list of acceptable items but I didn't ask to see it.

In 1982, I also had to prove my address and hadn't yet changed my
license to the new address so I showed them a dry cleaning receipt,
which is obviously NOT government photo ID, and that was good enough.

--
Rhino

On 1/19/2022 6:11 AM, Rhino wrote:
> On 2022-01-19 12:44 AM, David Johnston wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2022-01-18 5:20 p.m., RichA wrote:
>>  > -Go to an R-rated movie?  No.
>> There is no legal requirement for any kind of ID to be shown when
>> going into an R-Rated movie and the ticket takers won't bother asking
>> unless you look baby-faced.  A geezer like you could go into all the
>> porn films you wanted and nobody would ask you for ID.
>>
>>  > -Buy alcohol?  No.
>>  > -Buy a gun?  No.
>> All they need to do is find a private seller.
>>
>>  > -Claim welfare?  No.
>> They do not need government issued photo ID (which is what is "valid"
>> by the voter ID laws) to claim welfare in most states.
>>
>>  > -Get a driver license?  No.
>> If they needed government issued photo ID to get their government
>> issued photo ID they'd never get their government issued photo ID
>>
>>  > -Get a tax refund?  No.
>> Gpvernment issued photo ID is not required.  All that is needed is a
>> social security number.
>>
>>  > -Travel abroad?  No.
>>  > -Take out a library book?  No.
>> Nobody needs government issued photo ID to take out a library book.
>>
>
> You don't need photo ID to take out a book but you may need it to get
> your library card!
>
> The last time I took out a library card after a move to a new city, in
> 2017, I'm pretty sure I had to show ID to prove that I lived in the
> city. I gave them my driver's license which has both a photo and my
> correct address. I don't remember what specific ID they required though;
> I expect they had a list of acceptable items but I didn't ask to see it.
>
> In 1982, I also had to prove my address and hadn't yet changed my
> license to the new address so I showed them a dry cleaning receipt,
> which is obviously NOT government photo ID, and that was good enough.

The cities I've lived in you had to show a DL to prove who you are, but
would accept a lease or utility bill to show your residence. I always
got a library card as soon as I moved to the new city, and wouldn't have
had time to get a new license.

On 1/19/2022 12:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2022 at 8:14:25 PM PST, "suzeeq" <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/18/2022 6:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Jan 18, 2022 at 6:04:39 PM PST, "suzeeq" <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/18/2022 4:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2022 at 4:20:05 PM PST, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> -Go to an R-rated movie? No.
>>>>>> -Buy alcohol? No.
>>>>>> -Buy a gun? No.
>>>>>> -Claim welfare? No.
>>>>>> -Get a driver license? No.
>>>>>> -Get a tax refund? No.
>>>>>> -Travel abroad? No.
>>>>>> -Take out a library book? No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So why no I.D. to vote?
>>>>>
>>>>> Democrats don't want you to show an ID to vote so they can get elected and
>>>>> require you to show an ID to buy food.
>>>>>
>>>> Hyperbole.
>>>
>>> Not where I live, it isn't. Maybe you haven't had the pleasure of living
>>> with
>>> a vaccine passport to do pretty much anything, but here it's not hyperbole.
>>
>> Our governor has declared there will be no vaccine passports.
>
> Well, then, see? You don't really know how much fun it is.
>
>
See? It's not universal.

rander3128@gmail.com wrote:

>-Go to an R-rated movie? No.
>-Buy alcohol? No.
>-Buy a gun? No.
>-Claim welfare? No.
>-Get a driver license? No.
>-Get a tax refund? No.
>-Travel abroad? No.
>-Take out a library book? No.
>
>So why no I.D. to vote?

Duh! The Democrat party is the party of voter fraud!

--
Let's go Brandon!

In article <ss7u7f$iqe$2@dont-email.me>, ahk@chinet.com wrote:
> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

>>-Go to an R-rated movie? No.
>>-Buy alcohol? No.
>>-Buy a gun? No.
>>-Claim welfare? No.
>>-Get a driver license? No.
>>-Get a tax refund? No.
>
>That's a lie.

There's a way to get a tax refund without using your SSN?

>>So why no I.D. to vote?
>
>Because you're already registered to vote.

Strawman noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

--
Let's go Brandon!

no_offline_contact@example.com wrote:
> On 2022-01-19 12:44 AM, David Johnston wrote:
>> On 2022-01-18 5:20 p.m., RichA wrote:

>> > -Travel abroad?  No.
>> > -Take out a library book?  No.
>>
>> Nobody needs government issued photo ID to take out a library book.
>
>You don't need photo ID to take out a book but you may need it to get
>your library card!

According to Kerman, that means you don't need a valid ID. @@

--
Let's go Brandon!