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* Winter solsticeGary McGath
`* Re: Winter solsticeArthur T.
 +* Re: Winter solsticeLee Gold XP
 |`- Re: Winter solsticeArthur T.
 +* Re: Winter solsticeRafe Culpin
 |`* Re: Winter solsticeArthur T.
 | `- Re: Winter solsticeRafe Culpin
 +* Re: Winter solsticeGary McGath
 |+* Re: Winter solsticeJoe Kesselman
 ||+* Re: Winter solsticeLee Gold XP
 |||+- Re: Winter solsticeGary McGath
 |||`- Re: Winter solsticeArthur T.
 ||`* Re: Winter solsticeArthur T.
 || `- Re: Winter solsticeGary McGath
 |`- Re: Winter solsticeArthur T.
 `- Re: Winter solsticePaul Rubin

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Subject: Winter solstice
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 by: Gary McGath - Tue, 21 Dec 2021 15:47 UTC

Since today is the winter solstice in the northern hemisphere, here's an
appropriate song:

https://soundcloud.com/garym03062/beacons-in-the-darkness

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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 by: Arthur T. - Thu, 23 Dec 2021 02:33 UTC

In Message-ID:<spssv9$rqa$1@dont-email.me>,
Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:

>Since today is the winter solstice in the northern hemisphere, here's an
>appropriate song:
>
>https://soundcloud.com/garym03062/beacons-in-the-darkness

Thanks for the reminder. Music specific to the solstice is too rare.

Are there any summer solstice songs (or celebrations)?

--
Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" pobox "dot" com

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From: lee.g...@ca.rr.com (Lee Gold XP)
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 by: Lee Gold XP - Thu, 23 Dec 2021 04:36 UTC

On 12/22/2021 6:33 PM, Arthur T. wrote:
> In Message-ID:<spssv9$rqa$1@dont-email.me>,
> Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
>
>> Since today is the winter solstice in the northern hemisphere, here's an
>> appropriate song:
>>
>> https://soundcloud.com/garym03062/beacons-in-the-darkness
>
> Thanks for the reminder. Music specific to the solstice is too rare.
>
> Are there any summer solstice songs (or celebrations)?
>
https://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poem/poems_treesong.htm

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 by: Arthur T. - Thu, 23 Dec 2021 06:14 UTC

In Message-ID:<sq0udc$tsa$1@dont-email.me>,
Lee Gold XP <lee.gold@ca.rr.com> wrote:

>> Are there any summer solstice songs (or celebrations)?
>>
>https://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poem/poems_treesong.htm

Thank you. Among other things, I'd forgotten that, in other cultures
and other times, the solstice was considered mid-summer rather than
the beginning of it.

--
Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" pobox "dot" com

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 by: Rafe Culpin - Thu, 23 Dec 2021 08:27 UTC

In article <cqn7sgpmi9n14vfjq0jflt6om78d0duhn2@4ax.com>, arthur@munged.invalid
(Arthur T.) wrote:

> >Since today is the winter solstice in the northern hemisphere,
> here's an >appropriate song:
> >
> >https://soundcloud.com/garym03062/beacons-in-the-darkness
>
> Thanks for the reminder. Music specific to the solstice is too rare.

For the longest night, the Halsway Carol

--
To reply email rafe, at the address filk co uk
Information on filk in the UK: http://filk.co.uk/

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From: gar...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com (Gary McGath)
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Subject: Re: Winter solstice
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 by: Gary McGath - Thu, 23 Dec 2021 13:56 UTC

On 12/22/21 9:33 PM, Arthur T. wrote:
> In Message-ID:<spssv9$rqa$1@dont-email.me>,
> Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
>
>> Since today is the winter solstice in the northern hemisphere, here's an
>> appropriate song:
>>
>> https://soundcloud.com/garym03062/beacons-in-the-darkness
>
> Thanks for the reminder. Music specific to the solstice is too rare.
>
> Are there any summer solstice songs (or celebrations)?
>

Take a look at these Australian Christmas songs. They aren't exactly
solstice-specific, but they're summer songs.

https://blog.yellowoctopus.com.au/aussie-christmas-songs/

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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From: keshlam....@verizon.net (Joe Kesselman)
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 by: Joe Kesselman - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 15:52 UTC

I'm sure everyone here knows this, but in case: "Jingle Bells" was not
intended to be a Christmas song.

Sleighs occupied somewhat of the same position that hot-rods did later,
and "sleighing songs" were A Thing.

Wikipedia has the less-known verses, along with academic puzzlement that
this not-particularly-interesting example is the one that survived.

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 by: Lee Gold XP - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 17:11 UTC

On 12/24/2021 7:52 AM, Joe Kesselman wrote:
> I'm sure everyone here knows this, but in case: "Jingle Bells" was not
> intended to be a Christmas song.
>
> Sleighs occupied somewhat of the same position that hot-rods did later,
> and "sleighing songs" were A Thing.
>
> Wikipedia has the less-known verses, along with academic puzzlement that
> this not-particularly-interesting example is the one that survived.

Back when I took Classical Latin in secular school, we were told to memorize
our choice of a number of things in Latin.

I still remember the start of "America" in Latin.
Te cano patria, candida libera, te referit.

I also learned "Jingle Bells" in Latin.

And one year, decades ago, I was in a mall that was playing music before
the department store doors opened, and it started "Jingle Bells," so I
started singing "Tintinna, Tintinna, Tintinnabulum" (or some such)
and the woman standing next to me said, "Oh, you know it in the original
Latin."

I didn't want to embarass her by telling her how Very Wrong
she was, so I just smiled, and then the doors opened, and we went in.

--Lee

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 by: Gary McGath - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 18:40 UTC

On 12/24/21 12:11 PM, Lee Gold XP wrote:
> I also learned "Jingle Bells" in Latin.
>
> And one year, decades ago, I was in a mall that was playing music before
> the department store doors opened, and it started "Jingle Bells," so I
> started singing "Tintinna, Tintinna, Tintinnabulum" (or some such)
> and the woman standing next to me said, "Oh, you know it in the original
> Latin."

But does it scan to "paradimethylaminobenzaldehyde"?

Someone did a song about a kind of gladiatorial tournament called a
"one-horse open slay." I never heard the song, just a description of it.

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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 by: Arthur T. - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 19:13 UTC

In Message-ID:<sq4v0u$c60$1@dont-email.me>,
Lee Gold XP <lee.gold@ca.rr.com> wrote:

>And one year, decades ago, I was in a mall that was playing music before
>the department store doors opened, and it started "Jingle Bells," so I
>started singing "Tintinna, Tintinna, Tintinnabulum" (or some such)
>and the woman standing next to me said, "Oh, you know it in the original
>Latin."

I know someone who heard the theme from MASH playing in an elevator
and started singing along. Remember: its title is Suicide Is Painless
and the words weren't used on the TV show. People asked if they were
okay.

--
Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" pobox "dot" com

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In Message-ID:<memo.20211223082704.3732B@rafecupl.merula.co.uk>,
nospam@see.sig.to.reply (Rafe Culpin) wrote:

>> Thanks for the reminder. Music specific to the solstice is too rare.
>
>For the longest night, the Halsway Carol

Thank you. I hadn't heard of it. I'm glad I could find the lyrics.
The version I found on Youtube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPrBie18p1U> was very good, but,
like much choral music, I couldn't easily make out the words.

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Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" pobox "dot" com

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 by: Arthur T. - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 19:14 UTC

In Message-ID:<sq1v6j$bd6$1@dont-email.me>,
Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:

>> Are there any summer solstice songs (or celebrations)?
>>
>
>Take a look at these Australian Christmas songs. They aren't exactly
>solstice-specific, but they're summer songs.
>
>https://blog.yellowoctopus.com.au/aussie-christmas-songs/

I haven't listened to them all yet. But *anything* that's not the
U.S. earworm carols is welcome (well, almost anything).

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Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" pobox "dot" com

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 by: Arthur T. - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 19:14 UTC

In Message-ID:<sq4qc3$ec6$1@dont-email.me>,
Joe Kesselman <keshlam.cat.nospam@verizon.net> wrote:

>I'm sure everyone here knows this, but in case: "Jingle Bells" was not
>intended to be a Christmas song.

It's been noted that many "Christmas carols" were written by Jewish
songwriters in Tin Pan Alley.

>Sleighs occupied somewhat of the same position that hot-rods did later,
>and "sleighing songs" were A Thing.

"Sleigh Ride" was not written as a Christmas song; it originally had
no words. It was composed by Leroy Anderson who also gave us The
Syncopated Clock (which someone later wrote words for) and The
Typewriter.

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Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" pobox "dot" com

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 by: Rafe Culpin - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 23:27 UTC

In article <195csghslbmqheqp9cvqj5giceu0fgq07v@4ax.com>, arthur@munged.invalid
(Arthur T.) wrote:

> >For the longest night, the Halsway Carol
>
> Thank you. I hadn't heard of it. I'm glad I could find the lyrics.
> The version I found on Youtube
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPrBie18p1U> was very good, but,
> like much choral music, I couldn't easily make out the words.

Lots of information on it here: https://halsway.musicwebdesign.nl/

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 by: Gary McGath - Sat, 25 Dec 2021 01:30 UTC

On 12/24/21 2:14 PM, Arthur T. wrote:
> "Sleigh Ride" was not written as a Christmas song; it originally had
> no words. It was composed by Leroy Anderson who also gave us The
> Syncopated Clock (which someone later wrote words for) and The
> Typewriter.

The words I once heard with it mentioned a birthday party but nothing
about Christmas.

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Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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Arthur T. <arthur@munged.invalid> writes:
> Thanks for the reminder. Music specific to the solstice is too rare.

Here's one that I like, a well known one by Jethro Tull. Not filk
though. It's about the winter solstice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJS9TjjHxx8

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