On 4/11/2022 10:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> AB 2527: This bill would, among other things, prohibit a person from using a
> consumer credit report for a purpose related to the hiring of a dwelling unit
> or requiring an applicant or tenant to answer a question about the contents of
> a consumer credit report or the information contained therein for a purpose
> related to the hiring of a dwelling unit.
>
>
> https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220AB2527
>
> So now you'll have to basically accept people with no ability to screen them
> for credit worthiness or to verify their income and ability to pay the rent.
>
> In addition, the Los Angeles city council is proposing an ordinance that would
> also make it illegal for landlords in the city to inquire about or consider
> past evictions, past abuse of rental property, past lease violations, or
> criminal history when receiving a rental application.
>
> Communism continues apace here in the Golden State. Progress!

They *seem* to be trying to prevent a permanent underclass. Do you
think they shouldn't? Or, if they should, how should they go about it?

On 4/12/2022 2:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <Xzg5K.17658$O01.608@fx33.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/11/2022 10:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>
>>> AB 2527: This bill would, among other things, prohibit a person from using
>>> a consumer credit report for a purpose related to the hiring of a dwelling
>>> unit or requiring an applicant or tenant to answer a question about the
>>> contents of a consumer credit report or the information contained therein
>>> for a purpose related to the hiring of a dwelling unit.
>>>
>>> https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120
>>> 220AB2527
>>>
>>> So now you'll have to basically accept people with no ability to screen
>>> them for credit worthiness or to verify their income and ability to pay the
>>> rent.
>>>
>>> In addition, the Los Angeles city council is proposing an ordinance that
>>> would also make it illegal for landlords in the city to inquire about or
>>> consider past evictions, past abuse of rental property, past lease
>>> violations, or criminal history when receiving a rental application.
>>>
>>> Communism continues apace here in the Golden State. Progress!
>>
>> They *seem* to be trying to prevent a permanent underclass. Do you
>> think they shouldn't?
>
> I think it's absurd for the government to force me to let people live on
> my property without allowing me to know if they have the money to do it,
> or a history of fucking over landlords, or even if they're violent
> criminals.

Yes, that seems absurd. But is a permanent underclass the tradeoff?

On 4/12/2022 5:35 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 15:06:31 -0400, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> I think it's absurd for the government to force me to let people live on
>>> my property without allowing me to know if they have the money to do it,
>>> or a history of fucking over landlords, or even if they're violent
>>> criminals.
>>
>> Yes, that seems absurd. But is a permanent underclass the tradeoff?
>
> A landlord certainly has a right to judge whether the tenant will or
> will not pay their rent or leave the place in reasonable shape. If a
> prospective tenant has a negative track record (particularly with
> respect to trashing a place which is often several thousands of
> dollars in repairs) it is unreasonable to refuse that info to the
> landlord by way of disallowing questions on that point.

I'm careful when speaking of "rights", if only because they have so many
alleged sources -- and hierarchies of sources. But, yeah, being a
landlord sounds like a dicey proposition here.