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Re: I'm not saying Trudeau is the world's laughing stock, but....

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Subject: Re: I'm not saying Trudeau is the world's laughing stock, but....
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:18:34 -0700
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 by: suzeeq - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 17:18 UTC

On 4/29/2022 9:58 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> In article <t4gp12$bus$1@dont-email.me>,
>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 28, 2022 at 10:37:39 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2022-04-canada-prosecute-crimes-moon.html
>>>
>>>>> "Foreign astronauts who 'threaten the life or security of a Canadian crew
>>>>> member' on a Canadian-supported space mission could also be prosecuted,
>>>>> according to the ways and means motion.
>>>
>>>>> Which is meaningless bullshit. If I'm in outer space (or on the moon or in
>>>>> Bora Bora or in Texas), Canadia doesn't have any jurisdiction over me no
>>>>> matter what resolutions they pass in their Parliament.
>>
>>>> Universal jurisdiction is a legal principle that allows states or
>>>> international organizations to claim criminal jurisdiction over an accused
>>>> person regardless of where the alleged crime was committed, and regardless
>>>> of the accused's nationality, country of residence, or any other relation
>>>> to the prosecuting entity. Crimes prosecuted under universal jurisdiction
>>>> are considered crimes against all, too serious to tolerate jurisdictional
>>>> arbitrage.
>>
>> Yes, I know that countries like to pretend they have jurisdiction over
>> everyone, everywhere, for everything, but it simply isn't true.
>>
>
> What about the sovereign nation of Hawaii?

Didn't that go away with statehood?

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Subject: Re: I'm not saying Trudeau is the world's laughing stock, but....
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 11:52:41 -0700
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 by: suzeeq - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 18:52 UTC

On 4/29/2022 11:11 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>> On 4/29/2022 9:58 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <t4gp12$bus$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2022 at 10:37:39 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2022-04-canada-prosecute-crimes-moon.html
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Foreign astronauts who 'threaten the life or security of a Canadian crew
>>>>>>> member' on a Canadian-supported space mission could also be prosecuted,
>>>>>>> according to the ways and means motion.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which is meaningless bullshit. If I'm in outer space (or on the moon or in
>>>>>>> Bora Bora or in Texas), Canadia doesn't have any jurisdiction over me no
>>>>>>> matter what resolutions they pass in their Parliament.
>>>>
>>>>>> Universal jurisdiction is a legal principle that allows states or
>>>>>> international organizations to claim criminal jurisdiction over an accused
>>>>>> person regardless of where the alleged crime was committed, and regardless
>>>>>> of the accused's nationality, country of residence, or any other relation
>>>>>> to the prosecuting entity. Crimes prosecuted under universal jurisdiction
>>>>>> are considered crimes against all, too serious to tolerate jurisdictional
>>>>>> arbitrage.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I know that countries like to pretend they have jurisdiction over
>>>> everyone, everywhere, for everything, but it simply isn't true.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What about the sovereign nation of Hawaii?
>>
>> Didn't that go away with statehood?
>
> Bonk
>
> Like you've never seen Ha'w'a'ii Five-Oh
>
Not the new one.

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