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* New filk: Parity of ParodyArthur T.
`* Re: New filk: Parity of ParodyGary McGath
 `* Re: New filk: Parity of ParodyArthur T.
  `* Re: New filk: Parity of ParodyMark Mandel
   +* Re: New filk: Parity of ParodyArthur T.
   |`- Re: New filk: Parity of ParodyGary McGath
   +- Re: New filk: Parity of ParodyTim Merrigan
   `* Re: New filk: Parity of ParodyJeff Urs
    +- Re: New filk: Parity of ParodyGary McGath
    `- Re: New filk: Parity of ParodyArthur T.

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 by: Arthur T. - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 01:00 UTC

Title: Parity Of Parody
ttto: Children's Marching Song

I use yours; they use mine
That means everything is fine

(Chorus after each verse:)
And it goes 'round; think it's fair
'Long as we know there's...
Parity of parody

Take his words; use her tune
Anything that's opportune

Build from mine; that's sublime
Even if it just half-rhymes

Yours is mine; mine is yours
What gets filked is what endures

My lyrics copyright 2022 by Arthur Tansky. License granted for
non-commercial, non-political archiving and performance as long as:
1. copyright notice is maintained, and
2. no money changes hands.

--
Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" pobox "dot" com

Guessing a lyricist's opinions from his songs is as futile as
guessing an author's opinions from his novels.

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 by: Gary McGath - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 10:40 UTC

On 4/5/22 9:00 PM, Arthur T. wrote:
> Title: Parity Of Parody
> ttto: Children's Marching Song
>
> I use yours; they use mine
> That means everything is fine
>
> (Chorus after each verse:)
> And it goes 'round; think it's fair
> 'Long as we know there's...
> Parity of parody

Somehow my mind instantly turned it into this:

I own yours; I own mine;
That means everything is fine

And I get it all; think it's fair
'Cause we know there's...
Parody of parity

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

Re: New filk: Parity of Parody

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 by: Arthur T. - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 13:54 UTC

In Message-ID:<t2jqnr$bk3$1@dont-email.me>,
Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:

>On 4/5/22 9:00 PM, Arthur T. wrote:
>> Title: Parity Of Parody
>> ttto: Children's Marching Song
>>
>> I use yours; they use mine
>> That means everything is fine
>>
>> (Chorus after each verse:)
>> And it goes 'round; think it's fair
>> 'Long as we know there's...
>> Parity of parody
>
>Somehow my mind instantly turned it into this:
>
>I own yours; I own mine;
>That means everything is fine
>
>And I get it all; think it's fair
>'Cause we know there's...
>Parody of parity

And somehow your version is so much more believable.

--
Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" pobox "dot" com

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 by: Mark Mandel - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 18:12 UTC

I didn't recognize the tune name "Children's Marching Song", so I googled it. The first hit, this Mitch Miller arrangement <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc90gdV4fcQ>, made it very clear. It gives the alternate title of "Nick Nack Paddy Wack", which my mind instantly follows with "Give a dog a bone, This old man came rolling home." Also the Flanders and Swann version from, I believe, the '50s, which parodies Charles deGaulle.

Mark

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 9:54:16 AM UTC-4, Arthur T. wrote:
> In Message-ID:<t2jqnr$bk3$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
>
> >On 4/5/22 9:00 PM, Arthur T. wrote:
> >> Title: Parity Of Parody
> >> ttto: Children's Marching Song
> >>
> >> I use yours; they use mine
> >> That means everything is fine
> >>
> >> (Chorus after each verse:)
> >> And it goes 'round; think it's fair
> >> 'Long as we know there's...
> >> Parity of parody
> >
> >Somehow my mind instantly turned it into this:
> >
> >I own yours; I own mine;
> >That means everything is fine
> >
> >And I get it all; think it's fair
> >'Cause we know there's...
> >Parody of parity
> And somehow your version is so much more believable.
> --
> Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" pobox "dot" com

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 by: Arthur T. - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 18:20 UTC

In
Message-ID:<bc7929db-eec3-4f2f-95fa-e3fcd4572504n@googlegroups.com>,
Mark Mandel <mark.a.mandel@gmail.com> wrote:

>I didn't recognize the tune name "Children's Marching Song", so I googled it.

Wiki has much more detail about it than I ever wanted. In fact, I
skimmed and stopped. But I gathered that it's very old with no
composer I should cite, and that was good enough for me.

Apparently, the name I'm used to was attached to it in the 50s.

--
Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" pobox "dot" com

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 by: Gary McGath - Thu, 7 Apr 2022 09:55 UTC

On 4/6/22 2:20 PM, Arthur T. wrote:
> In
> Message-ID:<bc7929db-eec3-4f2f-95fa-e3fcd4572504n@googlegroups.com>,
> Mark Mandel <mark.a.mandel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I didn't recognize the tune name "Children's Marching Song", so I googled it.
>
> Wiki has much more detail about it than I ever wanted. In fact, I
> skimmed and stopped. But I gathered that it's very old with no
> composer I should cite, and that was good enough for me.
>
> Apparently, the name I'm used to was attached to it in the 50s.
>

I'd always thought of the tune as "This Old Man." I didn't recognize the
title "Children's Marching Song," but I figured out from the content
which tune you were using.

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

Re: New filk: Parity of Parody

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 by: Tim Merrigan - Thu, 7 Apr 2022 11:54 UTC

On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 11:12:34 -0700 (PDT), Mark Mandel
<mark.a.mandel@gmail.com> wrote:

>I didn't recognize the tune name "Children's Marching Song", so I googled it. The first hit, this Mitch Miller arrangement <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc90gdV4fcQ>, made it very clear. It gives the alternate title of "Nick Nack Paddy Wack", which my mind instantly follows with "Give a dog a bone, This old man came rolling home." Also the Flanders and Swann version from, I believe, the '50s, which parodies Charles deGaulle.
>
>Mark

As I learned/remember that (This Old Man, never heard of The
Children's Marching Song) at least one rhyme is different. "Three"
with "knee", rather than "tree".

Also, "Give the dog a bone" rather than "Give a dog a bone".

I don't know if that's a mondegreen, or I learned a slightly different
version.

Also, in the Mitch Miller recording above, I heard "six" rhymed with
"sticks", rather than the "stick" in the written version I found.
--

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Tim Merrigan

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 by: Jeff Urs - Fri, 8 Apr 2022 11:49 UTC

Mark Mandel <mark.a.mandel@gmail.com> wrote:
> I didn't recognize the tune name "Children's Marching Song", so I googled
> it. The first hit, this Mitch Miller arrangement
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc90gdV4fcQ>, made it very clear. It
> gives the alternate title of "Nick Nack Paddy Wack", which my mind
> instantly follows with "Give a dog a bone, This old man came rolling
> home." Also the Flanders and Swann version from, I believe, the '50s,
> which parodies Charles deGaulle.

And my mind went to an old joke, the punch line of which is

"It's a knick-knack, Patty Wack; give the frog a loan."

--
Jeff

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 by: Gary McGath - Fri, 8 Apr 2022 14:03 UTC

On 4/8/22 7:49 AM, Jeff Urs wrote:
> Mark Mandel <mark.a.mandel@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I didn't recognize the tune name "Children's Marching Song", so I googled
>> it. The first hit, this Mitch Miller arrangement
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc90gdV4fcQ>, made it very clear. It
>> gives the alternate title of "Nick Nack Paddy Wack", which my mind
>> instantly follows with "Give a dog a bone, This old man came rolling
>> home." Also the Flanders and Swann version from, I believe, the '50s,
>> which parodies Charles deGaulle.
>
> And my mind went to an old joke, the punch line of which is
>
> "It's a knick-knack, Patty Wack; give the frog a loan."

There's also this parody, from a Beany and Cecil cartoon:

https://youtu.be/qbDZBpK-0E0?t=115

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In Message-ID:<t2p7h4$kg7$1@dont-email.me>,
Jeff Urs <jeff.urs@gmail.com> wrote:

>And my mind went to an old joke, the punch line of which is
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>"It's a knick-knack, Patty Wack; give the frog a loan."
His old man's a Rolling Stone.

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