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 by: suzeeq - Fri, 6 May 2022 19:36 UTC

On 5/6/2022 12:11 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
> > Ubiquitous
>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>
>>> Do you think women want (or in fact enjoy) getting abortions?
>>
>> After hearing abortion supporters brag about how many times
>> they've had them, the answer is yes.
>
> All women, or just most women?
>
Or only some women?

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On 5/6/2022 3:36 PM, suzeeq wrote:
> On 5/6/2022 12:11 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>   > Ubiquitous
>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>
>>>> Do you think women want (or in fact enjoy) getting abortions?
>>>
>>> After hearing abortion supporters brag about how many times
>>> they've had them, the answer is yes.
>>
>> All women, or just most women?
>>
> Or only some women?

The sheer pleasure of a D&C... what woman could resist?

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 by: moviePig - Fri, 6 May 2022 20:08 UTC

On 5/6/2022 3:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <t53tcb$5ep5$2@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/6/2022 12:11 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>> > Ubiquitous
>>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you think women want (or in fact enjoy) getting abortions?
>>>>
>>>> After hearing abortion supporters brag about how many times
>>>> they've had them, the answer is yes.
>>>
>>> All women, or just most women?
>>>
>> Or only some women?
>
> Enough women that it's not just a statistical outlier.

Please cite any woman anywhere bragging about her abortions. (Hint: not
hiding one's abortion past from the Morality Police isn't "bragging".)

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 by: suzeeq - Fri, 6 May 2022 21:01 UTC

On 5/6/2022 1:08 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 5/6/2022 3:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <t53tcb$5ep5$2@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/6/2022 12:11 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>>    > Ubiquitous
>>>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think women want (or in fact enjoy) getting abortions?
>>>>>
>>>>> After hearing abortion supporters brag about how many times
>>>>> they've had them, the answer is yes.
>>>>
>>>> All women, or just most women?
>>>>
>>> Or only some women?
>>
>> Enough women that it's not just a statistical outlier.
>
> Please cite any woman anywhere bragging about her abortions.  (Hint: not
> hiding one's abortion past from the Morality Police isn't "bragging".)
>
Agree.

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On 5/6/2022 6:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On May 6, 2022 at 1:08:10 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/6/2022 3:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <t53tcb$5ep5$2@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/6/2022 12:11 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>>> > Ubiquitous
>>>>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you think women want (or in fact enjoy) getting abortions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After hearing abortion supporters brag about how many times
>>>>>> they've had them, the answer is yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> All women, or just most women?
>>>>>
>>>> Or only some women?
>>>
>>> Enough women that it's not just a statistical outlier.
>>
>> Please cite any woman anywhere bragging about her abortions. (Hint: not
>> hiding one's abortion past from the Morality Police isn't "bragging".)
>
> Video: Girl brags about 'getting her second abortion' in TikTok video where
> she documents her trip to a California Planned Parenthood leaving pro-life and
> pro-choice advocates shocked
>
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-2121046/Video-Girl-laughs-second-abortion-broadcasts-TikTok.html
>
> GOONIES Star Martha Plimpton Brags About Having Her Best Abortion in Seattle
>
>
> https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/goonies-star-martha-plimpton-says-she-had-her-best-abortion-in-seattle
>
> "My Abortion Made Me Happy"
>
>
> https://twitter.com/ShoutYrAbortion/status/1456671213590249473?s=20&t=AvyZgvmmGcVQMVpkCf5SYA
>
> NAACP Chairman Julian Bond Brags About High Abortion Rate Among Blacks
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aZp_i2Nk-4&t=105s
>
> "Why I'm Proud of My Abortion"
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQfwLCwhUpA
>
> "I'm proud I had an abortion - and I'm trying to make sure other girls can say
> that"
>
>
> https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/im-proud-abortion-im-trying-15879981
>
> "Everyone Knows I Had An Abortion" t-shirt
>
>
> https://twitter.com/ProChoiceCT/status/1506701025260060674?s=20&t=AvyZgvmmGcVQMVpkCf5SYA
>
> "Having multiple abortions is totally groovy!"
>
>
> https://twitter.com/tbafund/status/1518630253694001153?s=20&t=AvyZgvmmGcVQMVpkCf5SYA
>
> Then there's these lines of merchandise and jewelry where you advertise
> proudly that you've had abortions:
>
> https://www.teepublic.com/sticker/8220399-shout-your-abortion-have-no-shame
>
>
> https://shout-your-abortion.square.site/product/abortion-necklace/8?cp=true&sa=false&sbp=false&q=false&category_id=6

So, in your opinion, "Shout Your Abortion! Have No Shame" is 'bragging'?
...i.e., making abortion sound like an enviable accomplishment?

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On 5/6/2022 6:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <R7hdK.2356$t72a.185@fx10.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/6/2022 6:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On May 6, 2022 at 1:08:10 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/6/2022 3:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <t53tcb$5ep5$2@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/6/2022 12:11 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you think women want (or in fact enjoy) getting abortions?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After hearing abortion supporters brag about how many times
>>>>>>>> they've had them, the answer is yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All women, or just most women?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or only some women?
>>>>>
>>>>> Enough women that it's not just a statistical outlier.
>>>>
>>>> Please cite any woman anywhere bragging about her abortions. (Hint: not
>>>> hiding one's abortion past from the Morality Police isn't "bragging".)
>>>
>>> Video: Girl brags about 'getting her second abortion' in TikTok video where
>>> she documents her trip to a California Planned Parenthood leaving pro-life
>>> and pro-choice advocates shocked
>>>
>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-2121046/Video-Girl-laughs-secon
>>> d-abortion-broadcasts-TikTok.html
>>>
>>> GOONIES Star Martha Plimpton Brags About Having Her Best Abortion in
>>> Seattle
>>>
>>> https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/goonies-star-martha-plimpton-says-she-
>>> had-her-best-abortion-in-seattle
>>>
>>> "My Abortion Made Me Happy"
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/ShoutYrAbortion/status/1456671213590249473?s=20&t=AvyZgv
>>> mmGcVQMVpkCf5SYA
>>>
>>> NAACP Chairman Julian Bond Brags About High Abortion Rate Among Blacks
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aZp_i2Nk-4&t=105s
>>>
>>> "Why I'm Proud of My Abortion"
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQfwLCwhUpA
>>>
>>> "I'm proud I had an abortion - and I'm trying to make sure other girls can
>>> say that"
>>>
>>> https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/im-prou
>>> d-abortion-im-trying-15879981
>>>
>>> "Everyone Knows I Had An Abortion" t-shirt
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/ProChoiceCT/status/1506701025260060674?s=20&t=AvyZgvmmGc
>>> VQMVpkCf5SYA
>>>
>>> "Having multiple abortions is totally groovy!"
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/tbafund/status/1518630253694001153?s=20&t=AvyZgvmmGcVQMV
>>> pkCf5SYA
>>>
>>> Then there's these lines of merchandise and jewelry where you advertise
>>> proudly that you've had abortions:
>>>
>>> https://www.teepublic.com/sticker/8220399-shout-your-abortion-have-no-shame
>>>
>>> https://shout-your-abortion.square.site/product/abortion-necklace/8?cp=true&
>>> sa=false&sbp=false&q=false&category_id=6
>>
>> So, in your opinion, "Shout Your Abortion! Have No Shame" is 'bragging'?
>> ...i.e., making abortion sound like an enviable accomplishment?
>
> One doesn't walk around wearing a t-shirt that says "Everyone Knows I
> Had An Abortion" if one isn't bragging about it.
>
> Nevertheless, your challenge was to "please cite any woman anywhere
> bragging about her abortions". I did that and more, so you can ignore
> the clothing line if that's what twists your knickers here.

No, my complaint here is general. It concerns the difference between
actual pride vs. trying to lift something out of its guilty shadows.

For reference, you may have seen Norm McDonald's very funny bit where he
lampoons parents for their bumper sticker: Proud of Our Gay Son. (I.e.,
it's not really about 'pride'.)

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On 5/6/2022 6:14 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Fri, 6 May 2022 16:03:17 -0400, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/6/2022 3:36 PM, suzeeq wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2022 12:11 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>>   > Ubiquitous
>>>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think women want (or in fact enjoy) getting abortions?
>>>>>
>>>>> After hearing abortion supporters brag about how many times
>>>>> they've had them, the answer is yes.
>>>>
>>>> All women, or just most women?
>>>>
>>> Or only some women?
>>
>> The sheer pleasure of a D&C... what woman could resist?
>
> Now admittedly having XY chromosomes I'm not in a position to know
> personally but I would have thought taking birth control seriously (or
> just saying no when appropriate) would be a definite improvement on a
> D&C which based on what I know about the procedure could never be
> described as "pleasure" or "fun"
>
> In my books anybody who relies on abortion as a prime method of birth
> control is missing the boat since almost any other method is
> preferable.

And I think most every woman knows it well.

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 by: moviePig - Fri, 6 May 2022 23:07 UTC

On 5/6/2022 6:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <p17b7h50ee1hlucu3b8h4mfpa6vihp0g6v@4ax.com>,
> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 05 May 2022 22:14:59 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, when you're proposing guns being held to people's heads, it's
>>> rather ridiculous to expect them not to arm themselves to defend against
>>> it.
>>
>> At the same time you know "people's heads" is a metaphor not literally
>> true
>
> You never know with moviePig.

Or, at any rate, you can always fall back on *saying* you don't.

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On 5/6/2022 3:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On May 6, 2022 at 1:08:10 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/6/2022 3:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <t53tcb$5ep5$2@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/6/2022 12:11 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>>> > Ubiquitous
>>>>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you think women want (or in fact enjoy) getting abortions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After hearing abortion supporters brag about how many times
>>>>>> they've had them, the answer is yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> All women, or just most women?
>>>>>
>>>> Or only some women?
>>>
>>> Enough women that it's not just a statistical outlier.
>>
>> Please cite any woman anywhere bragging about her abortions. (Hint: not
>> hiding one's abortion past from the Morality Police isn't "bragging".)
>
> Video: Girl brags about 'getting her second abortion' in TikTok video where
> she documents her trip to a California Planned Parenthood leaving pro-life and
> pro-choice advocates shocked

Everyone knows TokTok posters are idiots anyway.
>

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On 5/6/2022 8:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <t54gir$5oa8$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/6/2022 3:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On May 6, 2022 at 1:08:10 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/6/2022 3:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <t53tcb$5ep5$2@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/6/2022 12:11 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you think women want (or in fact enjoy) getting abortions?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After hearing abortion supporters brag about how many times
>>>>>>>> they've had them, the answer is yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All women, or just most women?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or only some women?
>>>>>
>>>>> Enough women that it's not just a statistical outlier.
>>>>
>>>> Please cite any woman anywhere bragging about her abortions. (Hint: not
>>>> hiding one's abortion past from the Morality Police isn't "bragging".)
>>>
>>> Video: Girl brags about 'getting her second abortion' in TikTok video where
>>> she documents her trip to a California Planned Parenthood leaving pro-life
>>> and pro-choice advocates shocked
>>
>> Everyone knows TokTok posters are idiots anyway.
>
> So no one brags about their abortions except the people who brag about
> their abortions but they don't count because they're stupid.

How many do you think are 'bragging' about their abortions compared to
the actual number of abortions? It's a very small percentage.

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