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 by: moviePig - Thu, 12 May 2022 14:59 UTC

On 5/12/2022 10:40 AM, RichA wrote:
> https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/politics/joe-biden-supreme-court-abortion-same-sex-marriage/index.html
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> President Joe Biden predicted Wednesday that if the Supreme Court officially overturns Roe v. Wade’s holding of a federal constitutional right to abortion, the court will next look to strike down other landmark cases guaranteeing Americans’ rights, from same-sex marriage to contraception access.

Yes, let's hope for that. Self-determination is hard, entailing an
endless queue of personal decisions we're each forced to make. Much
more efficient to simply turn them over to somebody else, like the govt.

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 by: moviePig - Thu, 12 May 2022 15:53 UTC

On 5/12/2022 11:39 AM, chromebook test wrote:
> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-4, moviePig wrote:
>> On 5/12/2022 10:40 AM, RichA wrote:
>>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/politics/joe-biden-supreme-court-abortion-same-sex-marriage/index.html
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>>> President Joe Biden predicted Wednesday that if the Supreme Court officially overturns Roe v. Wade’s holding of a federal constitutional right to abortion, the court will next look to strike down other landmark cases guaranteeing Americans’ rights, from same-sex marriage to contraception access.
>
>
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>> Yes, let's hope for that. Self-determination is hard, entailing an
>> endless queue of personal decisions we're each forced to make. Much
>> more efficient to simply turn them over to somebody else, like the govt.
>
>
> The new ministry of truth endorses this message and reminds everyone that free speech is like fairy dust.
> https://www.google.com/search?q=free+speech+is+like+fairy+dust

One lie can blunt our judgement. A million of them can sharpen it.

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 by: moviePig - Thu, 12 May 2022 17:59 UTC

On 5/12/2022 12:23 PM, chromebook test wrote:
> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 12:11:35 PM UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 11:53:57 AM UTC-4, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 5/12/2022 11:39 AM, chromebook test wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-4, moviePig wrote:
>>>>> On 5/12/2022 10:40 AM, RichA wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/politics/joe-biden-supreme-court-abortion-same-sex-marriage/index.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> President Joe Biden predicted Wednesday that if the Supreme Court officially overturns Roe v. Wade’s holding of a federal constitutional right to abortion, the court will next look to strike down other landmark cases guaranteeing Americans’ rights, from same-sex marriage to contraception access.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>> Yes, let's hope for that. Self-determination is hard, entailing an
>>>>> endless queue of personal decisions we're each forced to make. Much
>>>>> more efficient to simply turn them over to somebody else, like the govt.
>>
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>>>> The new ministry of truth endorses this message and reminds everyone that free speech is like fairy dust.
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=free+speech+is+like+fairy+dust
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>>> One lie can blunt our judgement. A million of them can sharpen it.
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>> "Why Leaders Lie" - John Mearsheimer
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> https://www.c-span.org/video/?299941-9/why-leaders-lie
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> Using Mearsheimer's correct criteria, which leader is the most effective liar, Donald Trump or Barack Obama?
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> https://youtu.be/tG767f9ysh8?t=22

Imo, veracity wasn't a big factor in either's popularity.

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 by: moviePig - Thu, 12 May 2022 20:30 UTC

On 5/12/2022 3:07 PM, super70s wrote:
>>>> One lie can blunt our judgement. A million of them can sharpen it.
>>
>>
>>> "Why Leaders Lie" - John Mearsheimer
>>
>>
>> https://www.c-span.org/video/?299941-9/why-leaders-lie
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>>
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>> ---------
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>> Using Mearsheimer's correct criteria, which leader is the most effective
>> liar, Donald Trump or Barack Obama?
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>> https://youtu.be/tG767f9ysh8?t=22
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> You are not serious are you, Trump has over 30,000 documented
> taradiddles to his credit. Or make that disgrace.
>
> Nobody including "Mearsheimer" can pontificate that away.

I stopped counting after 25,000. (But note that's not me you're
replying to.)

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 by: moviePig - Fri, 13 May 2022 02:57 UTC

On 5/12/2022 8:16 PM, RichA wrote:
> On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 10:59:23 UTC-4, moviePig wrote:
>> On 5/12/2022 10:40 AM, RichA wrote:
>>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/politics/joe-biden-supreme-court-abortion-same-sex-marriage/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>> President Joe Biden predicted Wednesday that if the Supreme Court officially overturns Roe v. Wade’s holding of a federal constitutional right to abortion, the court will next look to strike down other landmark cases guaranteeing Americans’ rights, from same-sex marriage to contraception access.
>> Yes, let's hope for that. Self-determination is hard, entailing an
>> endless queue of personal decisions we're each forced to make. Much
>> more efficient to simply turn them over to somebody else, like the govt.
>
> No one on the Left believes in self-determination of any kind, just the STATE, dictating how we should all act.

Like one of the no-abortion STATES, for instance?...

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