On 5/13/2022 6:17 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 5/12/2022 7:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Feb 13, 2022 at 4:02:33 AM PST, "Micky DuPree" <Micky DuPree> wrote:
>>
>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> writes:
>>>
>>>>   On Wed, 09 Feb 2022 21:38:43 -0600, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>   I wonder if they'll have to show their vaccine passports to get
>>>>> their
>>>>>   crack pipes, the way the rest of us have to do to eat in
>>>>> restaurants?
>>>>>   Or is this another rule that only applies to normals and gives
>>>>>   deviants a pass?
>>> .
>>>>   I certainly don't know any diabetics who are getting free insulin. So
>>>>   yes I'd say schemes like this are a 'free pass'
>>>
>>> <https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-crack-pipes-racial-equity/>
>>>
>>>       "This article has been updated after the U.S. Department of
>>>        Health and Human Services stipulated that federal funding would
>>>        not be used to include pipes in the safe smoking kits to be
>>>        distributed as part of a substance abuse harm reduction
>>>        program. As a result of that newly-stipulated detail, Snopes
>>>        has changed its rating from 'Mostly False' to 'Outdated.'"
>>>
>>> -Micky
>>
>> Oh, look! Both DuPree and the Oracle of Snopes, the Guardian of
>> Latter-Day
>> Truth, were completely wrong.
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>> Yes, Safe Smoking Kits Include Free Crack Pipes. We Know Because We
>> Got Them
>>
>>
>> https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/yes-safe-smoking-kits-include-free-crack-pipes-we-know-because-we-got-them/
>>
>>
>> Crack pipes are distributed in safe-smoking kits up and down the East
>> Coast,
>> raising questions about the Biden administration's assertion that its
>> multimillion-dollar harm reduction grant program wouldn't funnel taxpayer
>> dollars to drug paraphernalia.
>>
>> The findings are the result of Washington Free Beacon visits to five
>> harm-reduction organizations and calls to over two dozen more. In
>> fact, every
>> organization we visited-- facilities in Boston, New York City,
>> Washington,
>> D.C., Baltimore, and Richmond-- included crack pipes in the kits.
>>
>> The kits became the subject of national attention in the wake of a
>> Free Beacon
>> report in February indicating that a $30 million harm-reduction
>> program was
>> set to fund the distribution of free crack pipes in "safe-smoking kits".
>> Pressed on the matter in a Feb. 9 press briefing, White House press
>> secretary
>> Jen Psaki issued a full-throated denial.
>>
>> "They were never a part of the kit, it was inaccurate reporting,"
>> Psaki said
>> of the pipes. "A safe smoking kit may contain alcohol swabs, lip balm,
>> other
>> materials to promote hygiene and reduce the transmission of diseases."
>>
>> While the contents of safe-smoking kits vary from one organization to
>> another-- and while those from some organizations may not contain crack
>> pipes-- all of the organizations we visited made crack pipes as well as
>> paraphernalia for the use of heroin, cocaine, and crystal methamphetamine
>> readily available without requiring or offering rehabilitation services,
>> suggesting that pipes are included in many if not most of the kits
>> distributed
>> across the country. All of the centers we visited are run by
>> health-focused
>> nonprofits and government agencies-- the types of groups eligible to
>> receive
>> funding, starting this month, from the Biden administration's $30 million
>> grant program.
>>
>> None of the organizations responded to inquiries about whether they
>> applied
>> for government grants. It is not clear which organizations will
>> receive those
>> grants, nor has the administration said how it will ensure the kits
>> will not
>> contain crack pipes. The Department of Health and Human Services,
>> which will
>> oversee the Biden grant program, declined to provide a list of groups
>> that
>> have applied for funding, citing "confidentiality". The Biden
>> administration
>> is set to announce grant recipients on May 15.
>>
>> The Free Beacon's findings contradict claims from a raft of
>> fact-checkers who,
>> based on the White House's ex-post-facto denial, deemed the Free Beacon's
>> reporting false.
>>
>> A USA Today headline asking, "What's inside a safe smoking kit?"
>> answered:
>> "No, it's not a crack pipe." The outlet based its fact-check solely on
>> the
>> administration's denial and does not appear to have done any additional
>> research on safe smoking kits. The author, Michelle Shen, did not
>> respond to a
>> request for comment.
>>
>> A survey of more than two dozen harm reduction organizations found
>> that not
>> all harm reduction organizations distribute safe smoking kits, but
>> those that
>> do almost always provide crack pipes. The few that don't include crack
>> pipes
>> in their kits say they are willing to, but unable to.
>>
>> At Washington, D.C.'s Family and Medical Counseling Service, Inc., for
>> example, a member of the group's needle exchange team told the Free
>> Beacon
>> that the organization would love to offer crack pipes as part of its safe
>> smoking kit but hasn't been able to purchase them.
>>
>> "I would if I knew how," said Tyrone Pinkney, who distributes clean
>> needles
>> from a recreational vehicle and said he did not know where to buy
>> crack pipes
>> to include in the kits.
>
>
> Wait, so if you type "Boston" on a piece of paper and cut it out super
> crooked that means that "kit" is from "Boston" and has been distributed
> by the "Federal Govt.", right?  Because the "Washington Free Beacon" is
> a bastion of journalistic excellence and couldn't possibly lying trash,
> right?
>
> And what if was true, anyway?  You fail to mention what the supposed
> "complaint" is from right wing shitbirds.

Pretty sure that, as for most things, "Just Say No" sums it up.

On 5/13/2022 2:18 PM, trotsky wrote:
> On 5/13/2022 9:06 AM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 5/13/2022 6:17 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 5/12/2022 7:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On Feb 13, 2022 at 4:02:33 AM PST, "Micky DuPree" <Micky DuPree> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   On Wed, 09 Feb 2022 21:38:43 -0600, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>   I wonder if they'll have to show their vaccine passports to get
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>   crack pipes, the way the rest of us have to do to eat in
>>>>>>> restaurants?
>>>>>>>   Or is this another rule that only applies to normals and gives
>>>>>>>   deviants a pass?
>>>>> .
>>>>>>   I certainly don't know any diabetics who are getting free
>>>>>> insulin. So
>>>>>>   yes I'd say schemes like this are a 'free pass'
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-crack-pipes-racial-equity/>
>>>>>
>>>>>       "This article has been updated after the U.S. Department of
>>>>>        Health and Human Services stipulated that federal funding would
>>>>>        not be used to include pipes in the safe smoking kits to be
>>>>>        distributed as part of a substance abuse harm reduction
>>>>>        program. As a result of that newly-stipulated detail, Snopes
>>>>>        has changed its rating from 'Mostly False' to 'Outdated.'"
>>>>>
>>>>> -Micky
>>>>
>>>> Oh, look! Both DuPree and the Oracle of Snopes, the Guardian of
>>>> Latter-Day
>>>> Truth, were completely wrong.
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>> Yes, Safe Smoking Kits Include Free Crack Pipes. We Know Because We
>>>> Got Them
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/yes-safe-smoking-kits-include-free-crack-pipes-we-know-because-we-got-them/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Crack pipes are distributed in safe-smoking kits up and down the
>>>> East Coast,
>>>> raising questions about the Biden administration's assertion that its
>>>> multimillion-dollar harm reduction grant program wouldn't funnel
>>>> taxpayer
>>>> dollars to drug paraphernalia.
>>>>
>>>> The findings are the result of Washington Free Beacon visits to five
>>>> harm-reduction organizations and calls to over two dozen more. In
>>>> fact, every
>>>> organization we visited-- facilities in Boston, New York City,
>>>> Washington,
>>>> D.C., Baltimore, and Richmond-- included crack pipes in the kits.
>>>>
>>>> The kits became the subject of national attention in the wake of a
>>>> Free Beacon
>>>> report in February indicating that a $30 million harm-reduction
>>>> program was
>>>> set to fund the distribution of free crack pipes in "safe-smoking
>>>> kits".
>>>> Pressed on the matter in a Feb. 9 press briefing, White House press
>>>> secretary
>>>> Jen Psaki issued a full-throated denial.
>>>>
>>>> "They were never a part of the kit, it was inaccurate reporting,"
>>>> Psaki said
>>>> of the pipes. "A safe smoking kit may contain alcohol swabs, lip
>>>> balm, other
>>>> materials to promote hygiene and reduce the transmission of diseases."
>>>>
>>>> While the contents of safe-smoking kits vary from one organization to
>>>> another-- and while those from some organizations may not contain crack
>>>> pipes-- all of the organizations we visited made crack pipes as well as
>>>> paraphernalia for the use of heroin, cocaine, and crystal
>>>> methamphetamine
>>>> readily available without requiring or offering rehabilitation
>>>> services,
>>>> suggesting that pipes are included in many if not most of the kits
>>>> distributed
>>>> across the country. All of the centers we visited are run by
>>>> health-focused
>>>> nonprofits and government agencies-- the types of groups eligible to
>>>> receive
>>>> funding, starting this month, from the Biden administration's $30
>>>> million
>>>> grant program.
>>>>
>>>> None of the organizations responded to inquiries about whether they
>>>> applied
>>>> for government grants. It is not clear which organizations will
>>>> receive those
>>>> grants, nor has the administration said how it will ensure the kits
>>>> will not
>>>> contain crack pipes. The Department of Health and Human Services,
>>>> which will
>>>> oversee the Biden grant program, declined to provide a list of
>>>> groups that
>>>> have applied for funding, citing "confidentiality". The Biden
>>>> administration
>>>> is set to announce grant recipients on May 15.
>>>>
>>>> The Free Beacon's findings contradict claims from a raft of
>>>> fact-checkers who,
>>>> based on the White House's ex-post-facto denial, deemed the Free
>>>> Beacon's
>>>> reporting false.
>>>>
>>>> A USA Today headline asking, "What's inside a safe smoking kit?"
>>>> answered:
>>>> "No, it's not a crack pipe." The outlet based its fact-check solely
>>>> on the
>>>> administration's denial and does not appear to have done any additional
>>>> research on safe smoking kits. The author, Michelle Shen, did not
>>>> respond to a
>>>> request for comment.
>>>>
>>>> A survey of more than two dozen harm reduction organizations found
>>>> that not
>>>> all harm reduction organizations distribute safe smoking kits, but
>>>> those that
>>>> do almost always provide crack pipes. The few that don't include
>>>> crack pipes
>>>> in their kits say they are willing to, but unable to.
>>>>
>>>> At Washington, D.C.'s Family and Medical Counseling Service, Inc., for
>>>> example, a member of the group's needle exchange team told the Free
>>>> Beacon
>>>> that the organization would love to offer crack pipes as part of its
>>>> safe
>>>> smoking kit but hasn't been able to purchase them.
>>>>
>>>> "I would if I knew how," said Tyrone Pinkney, who distributes clean
>>>> needles
>>>> from a recreational vehicle and said he did not know where to buy
>>>> crack pipes
>>>> to include in the kits.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wait, so if you type "Boston" on a piece of paper and cut it out
>>> super crooked that means that "kit" is from "Boston" and has been
>>> distributed by the "Federal Govt.", right?  Because the "Washington
>>> Free Beacon" is a bastion of journalistic excellence and couldn't
>>> possibly lying trash, right?
>>>
>>> And what if was true, anyway?  You fail to mention what the supposed
>>> "complaint" is from right wing shitbirds.
>>
>> Pretty sure that, as for most things, "Just Say No" sums it up.
>
>
> No argument there.  Did you think that fake article had any validity
> whatsoever?

I dunno, I never even watched 'Reefer Madness'. But remember, my drug
stance, in general, is fully permissive of any informed adult user.

On 5/13/2022 3:35 PM, trotsky wrote:
> On 5/13/2022 1:43 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 5/13/2022 2:18 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 5/13/2022 9:06 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 5/13/2022 6:17 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>> On 5/12/2022 7:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2022 at 4:02:33 AM PST, "Micky DuPree" <Micky DuPree>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   On Wed, 09 Feb 2022 21:38:43 -0600, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   I wonder if they'll have to show their vaccine passports to
>>>>>>>>> get their
>>>>>>>>>   crack pipes, the way the rest of us have to do to eat in
>>>>>>>>> restaurants?
>>>>>>>>>   Or is this another rule that only applies to normals and gives
>>>>>>>>>   deviants a pass?
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>   I certainly don't know any diabetics who are getting free
>>>>>>>> insulin. So
>>>>>>>>   yes I'd say schemes like this are a 'free pass'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-crack-pipes-racial-equity/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       "This article has been updated after the U.S. Department of
>>>>>>>        Health and Human Services stipulated that federal funding
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>        not be used to include pipes in the safe smoking kits to be
>>>>>>>        distributed as part of a substance abuse harm reduction
>>>>>>>        program. As a result of that newly-stipulated detail, Snopes
>>>>>>>        has changed its rating from 'Mostly False' to 'Outdated.'"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Micky
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, look! Both DuPree and the Oracle of Snopes, the Guardian of
>>>>>> Latter-Day
>>>>>> Truth, were completely wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>>>> Yes, Safe Smoking Kits Include Free Crack Pipes. We Know Because
>>>>>> We Got Them
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/yes-safe-smoking-kits-include-free-crack-pipes-we-know-because-we-got-them/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Crack pipes are distributed in safe-smoking kits up and down the
>>>>>> East Coast,
>>>>>> raising questions about the Biden administration's assertion that its
>>>>>> multimillion-dollar harm reduction grant program wouldn't funnel
>>>>>> taxpayer
>>>>>> dollars to drug paraphernalia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The findings are the result of Washington Free Beacon visits to five
>>>>>> harm-reduction organizations and calls to over two dozen more. In
>>>>>> fact, every
>>>>>> organization we visited-- facilities in Boston, New York City,
>>>>>> Washington,
>>>>>> D.C., Baltimore, and Richmond-- included crack pipes in the kits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The kits became the subject of national attention in the wake of a
>>>>>> Free Beacon
>>>>>> report in February indicating that a $30 million harm-reduction
>>>>>> program was
>>>>>> set to fund the distribution of free crack pipes in "safe-smoking
>>>>>> kits".
>>>>>> Pressed on the matter in a Feb. 9 press briefing, White House
>>>>>> press secretary
>>>>>> Jen Psaki issued a full-throated denial.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "They were never a part of the kit, it was inaccurate reporting,"
>>>>>> Psaki said
>>>>>> of the pipes. "A safe smoking kit may contain alcohol swabs, lip
>>>>>> balm, other
>>>>>> materials to promote hygiene and reduce the transmission of
>>>>>> diseases."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While the contents of safe-smoking kits vary from one organization to
>>>>>> another-- and while those from some organizations may not contain
>>>>>> crack
>>>>>> pipes-- all of the organizations we visited made crack pipes as
>>>>>> well as
>>>>>> paraphernalia for the use of heroin, cocaine, and crystal
>>>>>> methamphetamine
>>>>>> readily available without requiring or offering rehabilitation
>>>>>> services,
>>>>>> suggesting that pipes are included in many if not most of the kits
>>>>>> distributed
>>>>>> across the country. All of the centers we visited are run by
>>>>>> health-focused
>>>>>> nonprofits and government agencies-- the types of groups eligible
>>>>>> to receive
>>>>>> funding, starting this month, from the Biden administration's $30
>>>>>> million
>>>>>> grant program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of the organizations responded to inquiries about whether
>>>>>> they applied
>>>>>> for government grants. It is not clear which organizations will
>>>>>> receive those
>>>>>> grants, nor has the administration said how it will ensure the
>>>>>> kits will not
>>>>>> contain crack pipes. The Department of Health and Human Services,
>>>>>> which will
>>>>>> oversee the Biden grant program, declined to provide a list of
>>>>>> groups that
>>>>>> have applied for funding, citing "confidentiality". The Biden
>>>>>> administration
>>>>>> is set to announce grant recipients on May 15.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Free Beacon's findings contradict claims from a raft of
>>>>>> fact-checkers who,
>>>>>> based on the White House's ex-post-facto denial, deemed the Free
>>>>>> Beacon's
>>>>>> reporting false.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A USA Today headline asking, "What's inside a safe smoking kit?"
>>>>>> answered:
>>>>>> "No, it's not a crack pipe." The outlet based its fact-check
>>>>>> solely on the
>>>>>> administration's denial and does not appear to have done any
>>>>>> additional
>>>>>> research on safe smoking kits. The author, Michelle Shen, did not
>>>>>> respond to a
>>>>>> request for comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A survey of more than two dozen harm reduction organizations found
>>>>>> that not
>>>>>> all harm reduction organizations distribute safe smoking kits, but
>>>>>> those that
>>>>>> do almost always provide crack pipes. The few that don't include
>>>>>> crack pipes
>>>>>> in their kits say they are willing to, but unable to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At Washington, D.C.'s Family and Medical Counseling Service, Inc.,
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> example, a member of the group's needle exchange team told the
>>>>>> Free Beacon
>>>>>> that the organization would love to offer crack pipes as part of
>>>>>> its safe
>>>>>> smoking kit but hasn't been able to purchase them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I would if I knew how," said Tyrone Pinkney, who distributes
>>>>>> clean needles
>>>>>> from a recreational vehicle and said he did not know where to buy
>>>>>> crack pipes
>>>>>> to include in the kits.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wait, so if you type "Boston" on a piece of paper and cut it out
>>>>> super crooked that means that "kit" is from "Boston" and has been
>>>>> distributed by the "Federal Govt.", right?  Because the "Washington
>>>>> Free Beacon" is a bastion of journalistic excellence and couldn't
>>>>> possibly lying trash, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> And what if was true, anyway?  You fail to mention what the
>>>>> supposed "complaint" is from right wing shitbirds.
>>>>
>>>> Pretty sure that, as for most things, "Just Say No" sums it up.
>>>
>>>
>>> No argument there.  Did you think that fake article had any validity
>>> whatsoever?
>>
>> I dunno, I never even watched 'Reefer Madness'.  But remember, my drug
>> stance, in general, is fully permissive of any informed adult user.
>
> That's vague.  Were Tom Petty and Prince "informed"?