On 5/31/2022 1:59 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 5/30/2022 5:04 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 5/30/2022 5:32 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>> Sometimes I have to wonder if his mouth is attached to his brain.  To
>>> wit:
>>>
>>> Biden says gun control up to Congress: ‘I can’t dictate this stuff’
>>>
>>>
>>> https://thehill.com/news/administration/3505996-biden-says-gun-control-up-to-congress-i-cant-dictate-this-stuff/?fbclid=IwAR0QN9qTpyPH1HPpJR1oVRjqipTarsxWuVwdZl7L4cLUVwC6kJUCXa5DIh8
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh goody, he's all Pontius Pilate on the issue of gun control.  That
>>> should play well with his base.  Meanwhile Republiclowns have really
>>> stepped up their game: "We need to offer thoughts and prayers *and*
>>> prayers and thoughts!"  We are so screwed.
>>
>> I'm not about to defend Biden's mental abilities, but in this instance
>> afaics he's right.  Congress has to send him a gun-control bill if one
>> is to be enacted.  All he can do is express his willingness...
>
>
> Oh dear.  One of his campaign platforms was that he was an anachronism
> and was going to get people to "reach across the aisle."  I'm curious,
> did you forget that he said this or was so stupid that you just put it
> out of your mind?  The GOP is maxxed out in how corrupt they can be.
> It's like Calculus when variable x approaches infinity, that's how
> corrupt they are.  On some level the left is corrupt too, if only for
> believing in propagandistic bullshit like this.

Campaigner makes pie-in-the-sky campaign promise. In other news...

On 6/1/2022 11:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <AcSlK.5357$x7oc.5067@fx01.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/1/2022 3:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <wTOlK.10416$vFlb.10089@fx34.iad>,
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/1/2022 1:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <TvMlK.62678$GTEb.7956@fx48.iad>,
>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/1/2022 11:55 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <AwLlK.12832$xZtb.2861@fx41.iad>,
>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/31/2022 6:28 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/31/2022 9:04 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/31/2022 1:59 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/2022 5:04 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/2022 5:32 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes I have to wonder if his mouth is attached to his brain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To wit:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden says gun control up to Congress: 'I can't dictate this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh goody, he's all Pontius Pilate on the issue of gun control.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That should play well with his base. Meanwhile Republiclowns have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really stepped up their game: "We need to offer thoughts and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> prayers *and* prayers and thoughts!" We are so screwed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not about to defend Biden's mental abilities, but in this
>>>>>>>>>>>> instance afaics he's right. Congress has to send him a gun-control
>>>>>>>>>>>> bill if one is to be enacted. All he can do is express his
>>>>>>>>>>>> willingness...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh dear. One of his campaign platforms was that he was an
>>>>>>>>>>> anachronism and was going to get people to "reach across the
>>>>>>>>>>> aisle."
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm curious, did you forget that he said this or was so stupid that
>>>>>>>>>>> you just put it out of your mind? The GOP is maxxed out in how
>>>>>>>>>>> corrupt they can be. It's like Calculus when variable x approaches
>>>>>>>>>>> infinity, that's how corrupt they are. On some level the left is
>>>>>>>>>>> corrupt too, if only for believing in propagandistic bullshit like
>>>>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Campaigner makes pie-in-the-sky campaign promise. In other news...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did Obama do that? Or Hillary?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hillary didn't get the chance. But, since you mention it... Obama
>>>>>>>> said,
>>>>>>>> "You can keep your doctor." (Yes, it was a legislation campaign, not
>>>>>>>> election.) On its face, that was a pie-in-the-sky, i.e., intrinsically
>>>>>>>> un-keepable, promise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yet when he was saying it over and over again to the media, he was
>>>>>>> asked if that's exactly what it was and he said no, which makes it a
>>>>>>> double lie. A lie which he has since admitted he knew was a lie when he
>>>>>>> was telling it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It may be that the Presidency can't afford the luxury of total honesty.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, considering his lie was in service to passing legislation he knew
>>>>> the people wouldn't support unless he lied, that pretty much torpedoes
>>>>> the idea of "government of the people, by the people, and for the
>>>>> people", doesn't it?
>>>>
>>>> No, only "by the people", and only a little bit, depending on how much
>>>> your philosophy countenances actions based on "the greater good".
>>>
>>> The people decide what the greater good is through their elected
>>> representatives. If they're being tricked into it by lying politicians,
>>> it ain't the greater good.
>>
>> The elect their representatives to decide what the greater good is.
>
>>>>> "I have to lie to get something passed that the people wouldn't support
>>>>> if I said the truth" isn't exactly compatible with the concept of
>>>>> government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
>>>>
>>>> He would argue that they'd support it if they understood it...
>>>
>>> Ah, yes, the "if only you rubes were as smart as me" approach. That's a
>>> sure winner.
>>
>> Yes, but what if he's right?
>
> Well, you're a long-established elitist, so that question comes as no
> surprise.

'Elitist': One who thinks a President shouldn't be chosen by lottery...