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* LNH: 20th Anniversary Special, Part #1Arthur Spitzer
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Subject: LNH: 20th Anniversary Special, Part #1
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 by: Arthur Spitzer - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 22:22 UTC

And on this LNH Day Eve here's the all the 20th Anniversary posts:

Intro:

Last year during the Legion of Net.Heroes 19th Anniversary, I made a
call for essays and writings from anyone who has ever read an LNH story.
And a year later these are the various writings I received (and if you
didn't manage to make the deadline -- then please post your 20th
Annivesary writing to RACC -- Thanks!). They come from LNH Writers, old
and new. We have on one side of the spectrum a writer who participated
in the first LNH cascade way back in 1992. And we have another who
wrote his first LNH story just last year.

So, open a can of Mr. Paprika Brand Champagne and grab a slice of
cheesecake! The LNH is 20 years old!

Enjoy!

-- Arthur

**** L N H 2 0 Y E A R S ****

DAVE VAN DOMELEN

A Look Back at 20 Years of the
Legion of Net.Heroes

I wasn't part of the first batch of LNHers, but I was part of the
first group to take it seriously...and by that I mean the first group to
see it as something that might be worth putting more than a few minutes'
effort into, something that might last more than a few weeks. Scav,
Jameel, wReam and the dozen or so others who took another group's
short-lived gag and turned it into something more enduring and more
involved than most of the professional superhero universes.

Of course, it helped that we did it solely for fun, so it didn't
matter if we never made money. As long as people were amusing
themselves writing, it could keep going.

Most of that first group has vanished utterly from Usenet as a
whole, much less the LNH. Oh, they're still around, I'm still in touch
with a lot of them. But we eventually did stop being amused by writing
LNH stories, and moved on. I occasionally toss a short piece into the
mix here and there, but I'm not really that involved anymore, even in
the LNH20 relaunch. I'm still on RACC, at least, but when I sit down to
write fiction it's more likely to be in my ASH universe, where I
exercise ultimate control and can avoid some of the conflicts and
complications that caused me to slowly lose interest in the LNH.

But while it lasted, the LNH had a major effect on my life, an
impact that continues even if I'm no longer that active in it. To name
the biggest, it was interaction with several fellow LNH writers that got
me back into Transformers shortly before the line was revitalized...and
400+ reviews later I'd have to say Transformers are a big part of my
life. And, of course, it was my writing for the LNH that led me (albeit
indirectly) to create the ASH setting out of the pieces of old RPG
campaigns. On a smaller level, I've recreated some of my LNH characters
in City of Heroes, with various levels of success (Per Annum languishes
at level 14, while Acton Lord is a fully endgamed level 50+3 Incarnate,
for instance).

And who knows? I've dipped my toe into the LNH20 revival, I might
find myself getting more deeply involved at some point. I've revisited
the old Dvandom Force characters a few times since #100, albeit in odd
sideways fashion, I could certainly do it again.

**** L N H 2 0 Y E A R S ****

SAXON BRENTON

The Legion of Net.Heroes and Me:
A self-Indulgent Reminiscence

Superhero comics are my earliest and most persistent hobby.

Other hobbies have come and gone for me (model trains, raising
budgerigars...), or came later (Dr Who, role playing games...) but
approaching forty years later I still have a love for comics in general
and for four colour superhero comics in particular.

Now, I've told this next this anecdote before, but up until the
mid-1980s a large number of the DC comic books available here in
Australia were black and white reprint anthologies. Typically they were
a grab bag collection of not just different stories starring different
characters, but also different stories from different genres
(superheroes, war stories, westerns, horror, SF...). For A-list
characters like Batman, Wonder Woman or Superman there'd be anthologies
that collected stories starring only them, but which nevertheless rarely
had any narrative coherence. They were vignettes. Only towards the end
of this period did we start seeing things like the ongoing, coherent,
and clearly sequentially numbered reprints of _The Flash_ or the _New
Teen Titans_.

And why is this important? Well, because of another little
factoid. There's a phenomenon among bibliophiles of dreaming while
asleep of finding a rare book. I do not say 'purported phenomenon',
because I have experienced it. A small handful of times I've had dreams
like that. Of finding some lost comic book. Not colour comic books -
whether some classic story that I missed because I grew up in the
country and didn't have access to speciality comic stores, nor even some
mint copy of an old and tattered favourite like the _X-Men/Teen Titans_
crossover. I've dreamt of finding one of those cheaply printed black
and white reprints.

Actually, speaking of dreams, you know how they say that when
you're dreaming of flying that's actually a metaphor for sex? Yeah,
well, maybe for normal people, but for me it's an indication that I read
Too Many Darn Comics. You see, I don't just have flying dreams.
Although it's true that I've been having those the longest, and that
even after all these decades my altitude control absolutely *sucks*.
But eventually I started to simulate teleportation by turning invisible
and intangible, and later still figured out how to do teleportation
itself. And then there's the energy blasts and matter manipulation
and... Oooo...

I once read - I think it was in Harms and Gonce's _Necronomicon
Files_ - a piece of occult advice that when faced by hostile psychic
projection to simply destroy it with your willpower. By imagining it
being obliterated by being blown to bits or bursting into flames or
otherwise dying in an emphatic manner. Now, I have no idea why that
titbit of information came back to me, but I discovered that it works
for dealing with nightmares as well. Quite a few times I've gained a
measure of lucid dreaming control while having a nightmare, and I can
assure you it's viscerally satisfying to just blow stuff up with energy
blasts, or unleashing a volcano, or in one case telekinetically grabbing
the Starship Enterprise out of orbit and using like a very large rock to
smash things. It adds a new dimension to the phrase 'rocks drop,
everyone dies'.

And if all of the preceding was not enough to convince you of my
comic book nerd cred, then the only thing I have to offer is that I did,
once, ride my bicycle in the rain to buy some comics.

So then, on to the Legion of Net.Heroes...

To the best that I recall I first encountered the Legion of
Net.Heroes during Retcon Hour, back in 1994. In other words, in the
period when Legion was starting to follow in the example set by the
Net.Trenchcoat Brigade and seriously dabble in Big Freaking Crossovers.
More specifically, I seem to recall reading Retcon Hour itself, but
not the call to participate or any of the organising, suggesting that I
started reading the Legion some time in the middle of that year.

In any case, like many of the people who joined in the early to
mid 1990s my internet access was gained while I was studying - in my
case at the University of Canberra. I remember walking around the
sports grounds thinking about possible storylines for my first series,
actually, miniseries, _Limp-Asparagus Lad_.

Now, for anyone who may have arrived later and not be aware of
this fact, I did not create the character of Limp-Asparagus Lad, the
world's most boring mutant superhero. He was created as an example of a
character by wReam and Mystic Mongoose. Since I'm largely an introvert
and my idea of a relaxing Friday night is to stay at home with a good
book, this character with the personality as exciting as a piece of limp
asparagus appealed to me. With wReam and Mystic Mongoose's permission I
adopted him as my Writer Character. This was also the start of my habit
where - although I was perfectly capable of creating my own characters -
I'd take other people's discards and use them. Kid Not Appearing In Any
Retcon Hour Story was next, and was really simply a joke: to prove that
I could. Then there were various stories starring classic LNH character
who hadn't been used in a while or only in minor roles, such a Fuzzy.
(By contrast my fondness for Occultism Kid is more likely an extension
of my fondness for magic using characters. Just as anybody in my role
playing groups.)

Later would be throwaway characters like Pulls-Paper-Out-Of-Hats
Lad or You're-Not-Hitting-Me-Hard-Enough Lad. Characters where if you
stopped and said to yourself, "Now hold on, what sort of powers do those
code names imply?", then after a bit of thought you'd realise, "I can do
something with these characters." And then there would be the use in
the High Concept Challenges of positively ancient and now obscure
characters, like the NTBers Doubt or Mr Elmo, or even Suicide Squid.
Eventually it got to the point where Arthur Spitzer created
So-Lame-That-Even-Saxon-Brenton-Wouldn't-Use-Him-In-A-Story Lad.
Although to be fair Arthur has used that joke on other RACC writers as well.


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In article <23ba1ae0-b4d2-44bc-91df-d4d890baa7a0n@googlegroups.com>,
Arthur Spitzer <arspitzer2@gmail.com> wrote:
>DAVE VAN DOMELEN
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> And who knows? I've dipped my toe into the LNH20 revival, I might
>find myself getting more deeply involved at some point. I've revisited
>the old Dvandom Force characters a few times since #100, albeit in odd
>sideways fashion, I could certainly do it again.

[Narrator] He did not, in fact, get more involved at some point.

A big part of that has been that I spent several years changing jobs
(and states) every year or two, with my Writing Itch scratched by repeatedly
developing new curriculum for the new school. I also found, to my annoyance,
that being unemployed for a year does NOT help with writing productivity.
Even ASH slowed to a crawl, because lack of collaboration tends to let
things slide to the back burner. In the last few years I've gotten a little
more writing done, including a few experimental projects (like the Speaker
for the Dead drabbles and The School).

Dave Van Domelen, amused that some LNH writers have taken the comics
lifestyle far enough to retcon or reboot themselves....

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