On 5/22/2022 7:37 AM, A Friend wrote:
> In article <t6d1hk$1ft1$3@gioia.aioe.org>, trotsky <gmsingh@email.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2022 12:47 AM, David Johnston wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-05 4:44 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-05-03/kim-kardashian-
>>>> marilyn-monroe-dress-2022-met-gala-conservators
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Textile conservators and fashion curators are appalled that beauty
>>>> mogul Kim
>>>> Kardashian donned Marilyn Monroe's iconic Jean Louis gown for the 2022
>>>> Met
>>>> Gala. Monroe's show-stopping garment became famous 60 years ago when the
>>>> Hollywood legend wore it to sing a breathless "Happy Birthday" to
>>>> President
>>>> Kennedy.
>>>>
>>>> Kardashian, a pop culture phenom in her own right,
>>>
>>> Ugh.  SHe's a jumped up nobody who has never done anything that puts her
>>> in the category of Marilyn Monroe.
>>
>>
>> What category is that? Monroe wasn't famous for her acting ability.
>
>
> She didn't have to act. She was a star.
>
> As to how she became a star, beats the frak out of me. The middle of
> the 20th century was a dark and scary time.

I think her shtick was physical attractiveness. And, in that regard,
and though ommv, I'd agree that no Kardashian shares her category.

On 5/22/2022 12:02 PM, trotsky wrote:
> On 5/22/2022 9:09 AM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 5/22/2022 7:37 AM, A Friend wrote:
>>> In article <t6d1hk$1ft1$3@gioia.aioe.org>, trotsky <gmsingh@email.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2022 12:47 AM, David Johnston wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-05-05 4:44 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-05-03/kim-kardashian-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> marilyn-monroe-dress-2022-met-gala-conservators
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Textile conservators and fashion curators are appalled that beauty
>>>>>> mogul Kim
>>>>>> Kardashian donned Marilyn Monroe's iconic Jean Louis gown for the
>>>>>> 2022
>>>>>> Met
>>>>>> Gala. Monroe's show-stopping garment became famous 60 years ago
>>>>>> when the
>>>>>> Hollywood legend wore it to sing a breathless "Happy Birthday" to
>>>>>> President
>>>>>> Kennedy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kardashian, a pop culture phenom in her own right,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ugh.  SHe's a jumped up nobody who has never done anything that
>>>>> puts her
>>>>> in the category of Marilyn Monroe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What category is that?  Monroe wasn't famous for her acting ability.
>>>
>>>
>>> She didn't have to act.  She was a star.
>>>
>>> As to how she became a star, beats the frak out of me.  The middle of
>>> the 20th century was a dark and scary time.
>>
>> I think her shtick was physical attractiveness.  And, in that regard,
>> and though ommv, I'd agree that no Kardashian shares her category.
>
>
> Sure, because with the advent of reality TV beauty is no longer in the
> eye of the beholder.  I think Kim was extremely pretty, and now is
> slightly less so, but her biggest attribute, no pun intended, was having
> an ass the size of Cleveland which does nothing for me but others seem
> to like it.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Rubenesque

On 5/22/2022 3:53 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/22/2022 7:37 AM, A Friend wrote:
>>>> In article <t6d1hk$1ft1$3@gioia.aioe.org>, trotsky <gmsingh@email.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2022 12:47 AM, David Johnston wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-05-05 4:44 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-05-03/kim-kardashian-
>>>>>>> marilyn-monroe-dress-2022-met-gala-conservators
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Textile conservators and fashion curators are appalled that beauty
>>>>>>> mogul Kim
>>>>>>> Kardashian donned Marilyn Monroe's iconic Jean Louis gown for the 2022
>>>>>>> Met
>>>>>>> Gala. Monroe's show-stopping garment became famous 60 years ago when the
>>>>>>> Hollywood legend wore it to sing a breathless "Happy Birthday" to
>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>> Kennedy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kardashian, a pop culture phenom in her own right,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ugh.  SHe's a jumped up nobody who has never done anything that puts her
>>>>>> in the category of Marilyn Monroe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What category is that? Monroe wasn't famous for her acting ability.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> She didn't have to act. She was a star.
>>>>
>>>> As to how she became a star, beats the frak out of me. The middle of
>>>> the 20th century was a dark and scary time.
>>>
>>> I think her shtick was physical attractiveness. And, in that regard,
>>> and though ommv, I'd agree that no Kardashian shares her category.
>>
>> There you go again, denigrating brown people because they don't meet the
>> white/blonde standard of beauty that our systemically racist society has
>> imposed.
>>
>>
>
> I don’t so much oppose your calling Kardashian “brown“ as I do your
> categorization of her as “people“

....though she does set a new standard of boot... er.. beauty.

On 5/22/2022 4:27 PM, trotsky wrote:
> On 5/22/2022 1:19 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 5/22/2022 12:02 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 5/22/2022 9:09 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 5/22/2022 7:37 AM, A Friend wrote:
>>>>> In article <t6d1hk$1ft1$3@gioia.aioe.org>, trotsky <gmsingh@email.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/2022 12:47 AM, David Johnston wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2022-05-05 4:44 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-05-03/kim-kardashian-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> marilyn-monroe-dress-2022-met-gala-conservators
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Textile conservators and fashion curators are appalled that beauty
>>>>>>>> mogul Kim
>>>>>>>> Kardashian donned Marilyn Monroe's iconic Jean Louis gown for
>>>>>>>> the 2022
>>>>>>>> Met
>>>>>>>> Gala. Monroe's show-stopping garment became famous 60 years ago
>>>>>>>> when the
>>>>>>>> Hollywood legend wore it to sing a breathless "Happy Birthday" to
>>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>>> Kennedy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kardashian, a pop culture phenom in her own right,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ugh.  SHe's a jumped up nobody who has never done anything that
>>>>>>> puts her
>>>>>>> in the category of Marilyn Monroe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What category is that?  Monroe wasn't famous for her acting ability.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> She didn't have to act.  She was a star.
>>>>>
>>>>> As to how she became a star, beats the frak out of me.  The middle of
>>>>> the 20th century was a dark and scary time.
>>>>
>>>> I think her shtick was physical attractiveness.  And, in that
>>>> regard, and though ommv, I'd agree that no Kardashian shares her
>>>> category.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure, because with the advent of reality TV beauty is no longer in
>>> the eye of the beholder.  I think Kim was extremely pretty, and now
>>> is slightly less so, but her biggest attribute, no pun intended, was
>>> having an ass the size of Cleveland which does nothing for me but
>>> others seem to like it.
>>
>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Rubenesque
>
>
> Seriously?  Rubenesque is curvaceous, the concept of bubble butts wasn't
> invented yet.  I've never seen a famous painter focus on the size of the
> caboose, perhaps you have.  It's funny that you mention Rubens though: I
> was in the whatever the art museum in Munich is called and I remember
> remarking to my buddy there had to be more than 50 Rubens paintings.  He
> didn't believe it and bet me, and when I looked it up there was like 56
> I think.  So I've seen a lot of them.

I've long found them grotesque. ("I may not know art...")

On 6/15/2022 8:24 AM, chromebook test wrote:
> On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 2:19:24 PM UTC-4, moviePig wrote:
>> On 5/22/2022 12:02 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 5/22/2022 9:09 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 5/22/2022 7:37 AM, A Friend wrote:
>>>>> In article <t6d1hk$1ft1$3...@gioia.aioe.org>, trotsky <gms...@email.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/2022 12:47 AM, David Johnston wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2022-05-05 4:44 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-05-03/kim-kardashian-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> marilyn-monroe-dress-2022-met-gala-conservators
>
>
>>>>>>>> Textile conservators and fashion curators are appalled that beauty
>>>>>>>> mogul Kim
>>>>>>>> Kardashian donned Marilyn Monroe's iconic Jean Louis gown for the
>>>>>>>> 2022
>>>>>>>> Met
>>>>>>>> Gala.
>
>
>
>
>>> Sure, because with the advent of reality TV beauty is no longer in the
>>> eye of the beholder. I think Kim was extremely pretty, and now is
>>> slightly less so, but her biggest attribute, no pun intended, was having
>>> an ass the size of Cleveland which does nothing for me but others seem
>>> to like it.
>
>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Rubenesque
>
>
>
> If it doesn't fit, you must quit
>
> https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2022/05/NINTCHDBPICT000734487522.jpg?w=670
>
> https://ibb.co/GCWCqbS

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