The Doctor wrote:

> In article <nnd$7bc8ec37$42bf54b5@0aa4687090104251>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > The Doctor wrote:
> >
> >> At least you can access our USenet server.
> >
> > Nah... there are better Usenet services out there. 'NetKnow IS'
> > propagates spam to newsgroups I frequent and the news admin doesn't
> > seem to want to do anything about it!
>
> Drunk as ususal Blueshirt.

When you stop spamming newsgroups I will stop criticising your Usenet
service... as an admin you should - and do - know better!

In Message-ID:<uj8kb3$4s1$1@panix2.panix.com>,
kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

>Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
>>
>>This is very disturbing. How can two providers that come with
>>recommendations stay in business offering a service whose restrictions
>>make it completely worthless?
>
>The vast majority of Usenet users today want to download warez from binary
>groups and care nothing at all about discussion groups or text. You picked
>two servers that cater to them.

I don't know why he had a problem with Astraweb, but, as you can see
from my headers, I'm posting from there. I've been doing so for over
10 years.

I won't suggest he try again. But whatever the problem was, I don't
think it's as simple as you're suggesting.

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On 18/11/2023 01:45, Gary McGath wrote:
> On 11/7/23 6:24 AM, Gary McGath wrote:
>> I've been using Eternal September as my Usenet provider out of sheer
>> inertia. It's clearly dying, though, becoming more like Eternal Wait.
>> Sometimes it takes several tries to load a message.
>>
>
> My search for other providers has been a nightmare. First I signed up
> with Astraweb. I immediately got a message saying my account had been
> cancelled. It appeared to work anyway. However, I got errors trying to
> post, saying posting wasn't allowed on my server. A search indicates
> that's the usual state of affairs with Astraweb. I explicitly cancelled
> my account. Nonetheless, they charged my credit card for their worthless
> service and my account still showed as active this morning. I cancelled
> again and told them to remove the charge.
>
> Pureusenet was no better. Again, I couldn't post. I contacted support
> and was told I had to select a deeply-buried option to be able to post.
> I went to the indicated page and was told I couldn't enable posting
> because I didn't have a paid account, although I had signed up and given
> my credit card information. I replied to the support email explaining
> this problem. It's been 24 hours with no response. I cancelled the
> account. So far I haven't seen a charge from Pureusenet on my credit card.
>
> This is very disturbing. How can two providers that come with
> recommendations stay in business offering a service whose restrictions
> make it completely worthless?
>
If you just want text newsgroups, use news.individual.net, 10 Euros a
year, and they do try to filter SPAM.

I've been using them since 2001(!!), when it was news.cis.dfn.de. :-)

Cheers,
Gary B-)

On 11/17/23 8:18 PM, Arthur T. wrote:
> In Message-ID:<uj8kb3$4s1$1@panix2.panix.com>,
> kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>
>> Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is very disturbing. How can two providers that come with
>>> recommendations stay in business offering a service whose restrictions
>>> make it completely worthless?
>>
>> The vast majority of Usenet users today want to download warez from binary
>> groups and care nothing at all about discussion groups or text. You picked
>> two servers that cater to them.
>
> I don't know why he had a problem with Astraweb, but, as you can see
> from my headers, I'm posting from there. I've been doing so for over
> 10 years.
>
> I won't suggest he try again. But whatever the problem was, I don't
> think it's as simple as you're suggesting.
>

I got another email from Astraweb this morning saying my account was
cancelled on November 14, which was the day before I opened it. At least
they're providing documentation if they don't reverse the credit card
charge and I need to dispute it.

I strongly recommend avoiding Astraweb and Pureusenet. Maybe they still
give legacy service to older customers, but they're totally worthless,
verging on scam, as far as I'm concerned.
--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
> On 11/7/23 6:24 AM, Gary McGath wrote:
>> I've been using Eternal September as my Usenet provider out of sheer
>> inertia. It's clearly dying, though, becoming more like Eternal Wait.
>> Sometimes it takes several tries to load a message.
>>
>
> My search for other providers has been a nightmare. First I signed up
> with Astraweb. I immediately got a message saying my account had been
> cancelled. It appeared to work anyway. However, I got errors trying to
> post, saying posting wasn't allowed on my server. A search indicates
> that's the usual state of affairs with Astraweb. I explicitly cancelled
> my account. Nonetheless, they charged my credit card for their worthless
> service and my account still showed as active this morning. I cancelled
> again and told them to remove the charge.
>
> Pureusenet was no better. Again, I couldn't post. I contacted support
> and was told I had to select a deeply-buried option to be able to post.
> I went to the indicated page and was told I couldn't enable posting
> because I didn't have a paid account, although I had signed up and given
> my credit card information. I replied to the support email explaining
> this problem. It's been 24 hours with no response. I cancelled the
> account. So far I haven't seen a charge from Pureusenet on my credit card.
>
> This is very disturbing. How can two providers that come with
> recommendations stay in business offering a service whose restrictions
> make it completely worthless?

I've had no issues with Astraweb.
I also use https://usenet-news.net/
I bought blocks on each over 10 years ago and haven't had to add since then.
I can't comment on either's responsiveness...I'm using INN and pullnews on a
local Linux server.

Robert
--
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Eternal September is working for me (now that I got reconnected).

On the other hand, recent versions of Thunderbird have been shredding
entirely too much of my mail, including entangling messages and headers.
I'm seeing that behavior in Lee's response in this thread. So if you're
using T'bird, it may be time to give up on it.

I haven't quite pulled the plug on that yet. Close, though.

On 2/3/24 3:51 PM, Joe Kesselman wrote:
> Eternal September is working for me (now that I got reconnected).
>
> On the other hand, recent versions of Thunderbird have been shredding
> entirely too much of my mail, including entangling messages and headers.
> I'm seeing that behavior in Lee's response in this thread. So if you're
> using T'bird, it may be time to give up on it.
>
> I haven't quite pulled the plug on that yet. Close, though.

I haven't had any problems with Thunderbird email. If you favor plain
text email (which I know you, Joe, do), what might be an alternative?
--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

On Sat, 3 Feb 2024, Joe Kesselman wrote:

> Eternal September is working for me (now that I got reconnected).
>
> On the other hand, recent versions of Thunderbird have been shredding
> entirely too much of my mail, including entangling messages and headers. I'm
> seeing that behavior in Lee's response in this thread. So if you're using
> T'bird, it may be time to give up on it.
>
> I haven't quite pulled the plug on that yet. Close, though.
>

I recommend alpine for email and news. For only news tin looks quite
alright.

On 11/16/2023 6:24 AM, Rafe Culpin wrote:
> My search hasn't been going well, but just this morning I changed the
> server I'm using on Eternal September to news.eternal-september.org ,
> and it's working much better. I hadn't updated the server name in years,
> so I was probably accessing some old machine of theirs which they'd
> nearly forgotten they still have.

Moving to reader.eternal-september.org did it for me. YMMV....

On Sun, 04 Feb 2024 12:16:08 +0100, D wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Feb 2024, Joe Kesselman wrote:
>
>> Eternal September is working for me (now that I got reconnected).
>>
>> On the other hand, recent versions of Thunderbird have been shredding
>> entirely too much of my mail, including entangling messages and
>> headers. I'm seeing that behavior in Lee's response in this thread. So
>> if you're using T'bird, it may be time to give up on it.
>>
>> I haven't quite pulled the plug on that yet. Close, though.
>>
>>
> I recommend alpine for email and news. For only news tin looks quite
> alright.

I am now using the PAN usenet news reader.. If you read this it's working
on Windows 10.... Used to use Google Groups but alas they Discontinued
Usenet.

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On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 18:50:55 -0000 (UTC), John Davis <wa8yxm@arrl.net>
wrote:

>If you read this it's working
>on Windows 10.

It seems to be working.
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Tim Merrigan

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In article <ur5gmf$3adi4$1@dont-email.me>, John Davis <wa8yxm@arrl.net> wrote:
>I am now using the PAN usenet news reader.. If you read this it's working
>on Windows 10.... Used to use Google Groups but alas they Discontinued
>Usenet.

Looks just fine. Notice how much less spam there is!
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

In article <ur5gmf$3adi4$1@dont-email.me>, John Davis <wa8yxm@arrl.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 04 Feb 2024 12:16:08 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 3 Feb 2024, Joe Kesselman wrote:
>>
>>> Eternal September is working for me (now that I got reconnected).
>>>
>>> On the other hand, recent versions of Thunderbird have been shredding
>>> entirely too much of my mail, including entangling messages and
>>> headers. I'm seeing that behavior in Lee's response in this thread. So
>>> if you're using T'bird, it may be time to give up on it.
>>>
>>> I haven't quite pulled the plug on that yet. Close, though.
>>>
>>>
>> I recommend alpine for email and news. For only news tin looks quite
>> alright.
>
>I am now using the PAN usenet news reader.. If you read this it's working
>on Windows 10.... Used to use Google Groups but alas they Discontinued
>Usenet.
>

Yay!

>
>
>--
>There is no life Before Coffee
>
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In article <cdncti5d66vhl2h761m098roqkvabmhirc@4ax.com>,
Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 18:50:55 -0000 (UTC), John Davis <wa8yxm@arrl.net>
>wrote:
>
>>If you read this it's working
>>on Windows 10.
>
>It seems to be working.

Yay!
>--
>
>Qualified immunity = virtual impunity.
>
>Tim Merrigan
>
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In article <ur5qns$3kt$1@panix2.panix.com>,
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <ur5gmf$3adi4$1@dont-email.me>, John Davis <wa8yxm@arrl.net> wrote:
>>I am now using the PAN usenet news reader.. If you read this it's working
>>on Windows 10.... Used to use Google Groups but alas they Discontinued
>>Usenet.
>
>Looks just fine. Notice how much less spam there is!
>--scott

YaY!!

>--
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