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* Ivana Trump Died From Blunt Force Trauma (CBS News)bruce bowser
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Subject: Ivana Trump Died From Blunt Force Trauma (CBS News)
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Ivana Trump Died From Blunt Force Trauma, Medical Examiner Says
CBS News - July 15, 2022
-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpVyg3hv90

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 by: suzeeq - Sat, 16 Jul 2022 22:50 UTC

On 7/16/2022 2:02 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
> Ivana Trump Died From Blunt Force Trauma, Medical Examiner Says
> CBS News - July 15, 2022
> -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpVyg3hv90
>
On her torso. That's what happens when you fall down a flight of stairs.

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Subject: Re: Ivana Trump Died From Blunt Force Trauma (CBS News)
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 by: bruce bowser - Sat, 16 Jul 2022 23:34 UTC

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:50:50 PM UTC-4, suzeeq wrote:
> On 7/16/2022 2:02 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
> > Ivana Trump Died From Blunt Force Trauma, Medical Examiner Says
> > CBS News - July 15, 2022
> > -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpVyg3hv90
>
> On her torso. That's what happens when you fall down a flight of stairs.

Many things can cause that. Especially when mobsters are around.

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 by: suzeeq - Sun, 17 Jul 2022 00:23 UTC

On 7/16/2022 4:34 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:50:50 PM UTC-4, suzeeq wrote:
>> On 7/16/2022 2:02 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
>>> Ivana Trump Died From Blunt Force Trauma, Medical Examiner Says
>>> CBS News - July 15, 2022
>>> -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpVyg3hv90
>>
>> On her torso. That's what happens when you fall down a flight of stairs.
>
> Many things can cause that. Especially when mobsters are around.
>
I know there's going to be a lot of speculation, but it appears she was
alone. She's 73, has thin bones and an accidental fall is more likely.
Why would anyone want to kill her in the first place?

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 by: trotsky - Sun, 17 Jul 2022 07:04 UTC

On 7/16/2022 4:02 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
> Ivana Trump Died From Blunt Force Trauma, Medical Examiner Says
> CBS News - July 15, 2022
> -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpVyg3hv90

Now it gets interesting.

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 by: trotsky - Sun, 17 Jul 2022 07:16 UTC

On 7/16/2022 5:50 PM, suzeeq wrote:
> On 7/16/2022 2:02 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
>> Ivana Trump Died From Blunt Force Trauma, Medical Examiner Says
>> CBS News - July 15, 2022
>> -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpVyg3hv90
>>
> On her torso. That's what happens when you fall down a flight of stairs.

How many times have you done this?

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On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 2:17:01 AM UTC-5, gmsin...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 7/16/2022 5:50 PM, suzeeq wrote:
> > On 7/16/2022 2:02 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
> >> Ivana Trump Died From Blunt Force Trauma, Medical Examiner Says
> >> CBS News - July 15, 2022
> >> -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpVyg3hv90
> >>
> > On her torso. That's what happens when you fall down a flight of stairs.
> How many times have you done this?

Was little Barron visiting Auntie Ivana? Future Gambino associate in training.

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 by: FPP - Sun, 17 Jul 2022 01:49 UTC

On 6/26/22 11:14 PM, bruce2bowser@gmail.com wrote:
>Ivana Trump Died From Blunt Force Trauma, Medical Examiner Says
>CBS News - July 15, 2022
>-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpVyg3hv90

I was denied the opportunity to see a news story about Nancy Reagan
taking a fall on some stairs, but I guess this will have to do.

--
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es3xo1xka455iw/BetterThingsToDo.jpg?dl=0

And since I trashed all my social media accounts over a year ago, the
only time I check in here is when I boot up to check out my external SSD
backup drive.

So you shouldn't expect I'll see any replies... but feel free to knock
yourself out!

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 by: Micky DuPree - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 03:36 UTC

suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> writes:

> I know there's going to be a lot of speculation, but it appears she
> was alone. She's 73, has thin bones and an accidental fall is more
> likely. Why would anyone want to kill her in the first place?

Donald wasn't still paying alimony to her, was he?

-Micky

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 by: A Friend - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 18:11 UTC

In article <tc4tbr$3u9$1@pcls7.std.com>, Micky DuPree
<MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:

> suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> writes:
>
> > I know there's going to be a lot of speculation, but it appears she
> > was alone. She's 73, has thin bones and an accidental fall is more
> > likely. Why would anyone want to kill her in the first place?
>
> Donald wasn't still paying alimony to her, was he?
>
> -Micky

Trump was still paying her something. The Atlantic says it was $650k
per year in the '90s, but that included child support. He also paid
her a $14m lump of money at the time of the divorce.

No, I don't think Trump was trying to get out of paying alimony. I
also don't know if he has to keep paying her estate.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 18:25 UTC

A Friend wrote:
>Micky DuPree <MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:
>>suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> writes:

>>>I know there's going to be a lot of speculation, but it appears she
>>>was alone. She's 73, has thin bones and an accidental fall is more
>>>likely. Why would anyone want to kill her in the first place?

>>Donald wasn't still paying alimony to her, was he?

>Trump was still paying her something. The Atlantic says it was $650k
>per year in the '90s, but that included child support. He also paid
>her a $14m lump of money at the time of the divorce.

>No, I don't think Trump was trying to get out of paying alimony. I
>also don't know if he has to keep paying her estate.

I've never heard of alimony that works like that.

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 by: BTR1701 - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 19:44 UTC

On Jul 31, 2022 at 11:11:06 AM PDT, "A Friend" <nope@noway.com> wrote:

> In article <tc4tbr$3u9$1@pcls7.std.com>, Micky DuPree
> <MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:
>
>> suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> writes:
>>
>> > I know there's going to be a lot of speculation, but it appears she
>> > was alone. She's 73, has thin bones and an accidental fall is more
>> > likely. Why would anyone want to kill her in the first place?
>>
>> Donald wasn't still paying alimony to her, was he?
>
>
> Trump was still paying her something. The Atlantic says it was $650k
> per year in the '90s, but that included child support. He also paid
> her a $14m lump of money at the time of the divorce.
>
> No, I don't think Trump was trying to get out of paying alimony. I
> also don't know if he has to keep paying her estate.

No, alimony ends with the death of the payee. The purpose of alimony is for
the spouse to live in the way they'd become accustomed during the marriage. If
the spouse is dead, there is no further purpose for alimony. Indeed, it would
be a helluva a thing to never be able to escape your ex, even after she's
dead.

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 by: trotsky - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 19:59 UTC

On 7/31/2022 2:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Jul 31, 2022 at 11:11:06 AM PDT, "A Friend" <nope@noway.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <tc4tbr$3u9$1@pcls7.std.com>, Micky DuPree
>> <MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:
>>
>>> suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> writes:
>>>
>>> > I know there's going to be a lot of speculation, but it appears she
>>> > was alone. She's 73, has thin bones and an accidental fall is more
>>> > likely. Why would anyone want to kill her in the first place?
>>>
>>> Donald wasn't still paying alimony to her, was he?
>>
>>
>> Trump was still paying her something. The Atlantic says it was $650k
>> per year in the '90s, but that included child support. He also paid
>> her a $14m lump of money at the time of the divorce.
>>
>> No, I don't think Trump was trying to get out of paying alimony. I
>> also don't know if he has to keep paying her estate.
>
> No, alimony ends with the death of the payee.

Yes, which is hastened when one's spouse gets the Epstein treatment. Moron.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 20:42 UTC

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>On Jul 31, 2022 at 11:11:06 AM PDT, "A Friend" <nope@noway.com> wrote:
>>Micky DuPree <MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:
>>>suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> writes:

>>>>I know there's going to be a lot of speculation, but it appears she
>>>>was alone. She's 73, has thin bones and an accidental fall is more
>>>>likely. Why would anyone want to kill her in the first place?

>>>Donald wasn't still paying alimony to her, was he?

>>Trump was still paying her something. The Atlantic says it was $650k
>>per year in the '90s, but that included child support. He also paid
>>her a $14m lump of money at the time of the divorce.

>>No, I don't think Trump was trying to get out of paying alimony. I
>>also don't know if he has to keep paying her estate.

>No, alimony ends with the death of the payee. The purpose of alimony is for
>the spouse to live in the way they'd become accustomed during the marriage. If
>the spouse is dead, there is no further purpose for alimony. Indeed, it would
>be a helluva a thing to never be able to escape your ex, even after she's
>dead.

Isn't that a Night Gallery episode? Or Noel Coward's Blithe Spirit?

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 by: trotsky - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 20:09 UTC

On 7/31/2022 1:11 PM, A Friend wrote:
> In article <tc4tbr$3u9$1@pcls7.std.com>, Micky DuPree
> <MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:
>
>> suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> writes:
>>
>>> I know there's going to be a lot of speculation, but it appears she
>>> was alone. She's 73, has thin bones and an accidental fall is more
>>> likely. Why would anyone want to kill her in the first place?
>>
>> Donald wasn't still paying alimony to her, was he?
>>
>> -Micky
>
>
> Trump was still paying her something. The Atlantic says it was $650k
> per year in the '90s, but that included child support. He also paid
> her a $14m lump of money at the time of the divorce.
>
> No, I don't think Trump was trying to get out of paying alimony. I
> also don't know if he has to keep paying her estate.

I'm not sure why this isn't being talked about:

The New York Attorney General’s Office said it had agreed, at the
request of lawyers for Donald Trump and two of his children, to postpone
depositions scheduled for next week in light of Ivana’s death.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/15/ivana-trump-died-from-accident-blunt-impact-trauma-medical-examiner-rules.html

How shockingly convenient. And I have never, ever heard of blunt force
trauma to the torso as a cause of death for a fall. Sounds like she was
hit with a baseball bat.

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 by: A Friend - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 21:05 UTC

In article <tc6pf5$ft8g$1@dont-email.me>, Adam H. Kerman
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 31, 2022 at 11:11:06 AM PDT, "A Friend" <nope@noway.com> wrote:
> >>Micky DuPree <MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:
> >>>suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> writes:
>
> >>>>I know there's going to be a lot of speculation, but it appears she
> >>>>was alone. She's 73, has thin bones and an accidental fall is more
> >>>>likely. Why would anyone want to kill her in the first place?
>
> >>>Donald wasn't still paying alimony to her, was he?
>
> >>Trump was still paying her something. The Atlantic says it was $650k
> >>per year in the '90s, but that included child support. He also paid
> >>her a $14m lump of money at the time of the divorce.
>
> >>No, I don't think Trump was trying to get out of paying alimony. I
> >>also don't know if he has to keep paying her estate.
>
> >No, alimony ends with the death of the payee. The purpose of alimony is for
> >the spouse to live in the way they'd become accustomed during the marriage.
> >If
> >the spouse is dead, there is no further purpose for alimony. Indeed, it would
> >be a helluva a thing to never be able to escape your ex, even after she's
> >dead.
>
> Isn't that a Night Gallery episode? Or Noel Coward's Blithe Spirit?

Beats me. BTW I've read that Noel Coward wrote Blithe Spirit after his
experiences with seances at some haunted apartment on the Upper West
Side of Manhattan.

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 by: Mikhail Flynn@GitmoB - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 16:15 UTC

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:11:13 PM UTC-5, A Friend wrote:
> In article <tc4tbr$3u9$1...@pcls7.std.com>, Micky DuPree
> <MDu...@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:
>
> > suzeeq <su...@imbris.com> writes:
> >
> > > I know there's going to be a lot of speculation, but it appears she
> > > was alone. She's 73, has thin bones and an accidental fall is more
> > > likely. Why would anyone want to kill her in the first place?
> >
> > Donald wasn't still paying alimony to her, was he?
> >
> > -Micky
> Trump was still paying her something. The Atlantic says it was $650k
> per year in the '90s, but that included child support. He also paid
> her a $14m lump of money at the time of the divorce.
>
> No, I don't think Trump was trying to get out of paying alimony. I
> also don't know if he has to keep paying her estate.

Did Eric Donny or Ivanko spring for a headstone at the site of Mrs. Trump's ashes at his golf course??

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 by: FPP - Sun, 17 Jul 2022 01:49 UTC

On 6/26/22 11:14 PM, bruce2bowser@gmail.com wrote:
>Ivana Trump Died From Blunt Force Trauma, Medical Examiner Says
>CBS News - July 15, 2022
>-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpVyg3hv90

I was denied the opportunity to see a news story about Nancy Reagan
taking a fall on some stairs, but I guess this will have to do.

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es3xo1xka455iw/BetterThingsToDo.jpg?dl=0

And since I trashed all my social media accounts over a year ago, the
only time I check in here is when I boot up to check out my external SSD
backup drive.

So you shouldn't expect I'll see any replies... but feel free to knock
yourself out!

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