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* Re: Pedo poem by W.H. AudenWill Dockery
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 by: Will Dockery - Fri, 3 Jun 2022 17:45 UTC

On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:05:29 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 10:11:49 AM UTC-5, Richard Oakley wrote:
> > On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 3:17:11 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:
>
> > > Lullaby
> > >
> > > Lay your sleeping head, my love,
> > > Human on my faithless arm;
> > > Time and fevers burn away
> > > Individual beauty from
> > > Thoughtful children, and the grave
> > > Proves the child ephemeral:
> > > But in my arms till break of day
> > > Let the living creature lie,
> > > Mortal, guilty, but to me
> > > The entirely beautiful.
> > >
> > > Read more: https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/lullaby-0
> >
> > Interesting, I wouldn’t necessarily view this in that shade of color.
> > I guess, if you look hard enough, you can imagine anything as anything
> > you want.
> >
> > r.
> It's not a question of 'imagining' anything; a reader's free to imagine anyone as the auditor (which is what makes this such a great love poem, BTW).. It's simply a matter of historical fact that Auden wrote "Lullaby" about his 13-year-old boy toy of the moment.

Where Allen Ginsberg probably wrote his poetry, discussed elsewhere, to Peter Orlovsky, a grown man at the time.

> >
> > The kittens in
> > the basket
> > asleep
> > no thoughtful
> > blankets cover
> > the fur,
> > the children will hunger
> > for mother’s milk,
> > while awake—
> > attached as they are
> > to your willing saucer.
> >
> > r.
> Nice

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 by: General-Zod - Fri, 3 Jun 2022 19:31 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:05:29 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 10:11:49 AM UTC-5, Richard Oakley wrote:
>> > On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 3:17:11 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>> > > Lullaby
>> > >
>> > > Lay your sleeping head, my love,
>> > > Human on my faithless arm;
>> > > Time and fevers burn away
>> > > Individual beauty from
>> > > Thoughtful children, and the grave
>> > > Proves the child ephemeral:
>> > > But in my arms till break of day
>> > > Let the living creature lie,
>> > > Mortal, guilty, but to me
>> > > The entirely beautiful.
>> > >
>> > > Read more: https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/lullaby-0
>> >
>> > Interesting, I wouldn’t necessarily view this in that shade of color.
>> > I guess, if you look hard enough, you can imagine anything as anything
>> > you want.
>> >
>> > r.
>> It's not a question of 'imagining' anything; a reader's free to imagine anyone as the auditor (which is what makes this such a great love poem, BTW).. It's simply a matter of historical fact that Auden wrote "Lullaby" about his 13-year-old boy toy of the moment.

> Where Allen Ginsberg probably wrote his poetry, discussed elsewhere, to Peter Orlovsky, a grown man at the time.

As has been established many times before.....

>> >
>> > The kittens in
>> > the basket
>> > asleep
>> > no thoughtful
>> > blankets cover
>> > the fur,
>> > the children will hunger
>> > for mother’s milk,
>> > while awake—
>> > attached as they are
>> > to your willing saucer.
>> >
>> > r.
>> Nice

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 by: W.Dockery - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 21:19 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:05:29 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 10:11:49 AM UTC-5, Richard Oakley wrote:
>>> > On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 3:17:11 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:
>>>
>>> > > Lullaby
>>> > >
>>> > > Lay your sleeping head, my love,
>>> > > Human on my faithless arm;
>>> > > Time and fevers burn away
>>> > > Individual beauty from
>>> > > Thoughtful children, and the grave
>>> > > Proves the child ephemeral:
>>> > > But in my arms till break of day
>>> > > Let the living creature lie,
>>> > > Mortal, guilty, but to me
>>> > > The entirely beautiful.
>>> > >
>>> > > Read more: https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/lullaby-0
>>> >
>>> > Interesting, I wouldn’t necessarily view this in that shade of color.
>>> > I guess, if you look hard enough, you can imagine anything as anything
>>> > you want.
>>> >
>>> > r.
>>> It's not a question of 'imagining' anything; a reader's free to imagine anyone as the auditor (which is what makes this such a great love poem, BTW).. It's simply a matter of historical fact that Auden wrote "Lullaby" about his 13-year-old boy toy of the moment.

>> Where Allen Ginsberg probably wrote his poetry, discussed elsewhere, to Peter Orlovsky, a grown man at the time.

> As has been established many times before.....

Apparently, the conventional wisdom is that Allen Ginsberg wrote "Please master" for Neal Cassady.

>>> >
>>> > The kittens in
>>> > the basket
>>> > asleep
>>> > no thoughtful
>>> > blankets cover
>>> > the fur,
>>> > the children will hunger
>>> > for mother’s milk,
>>> > while awake—
>>> > attached as they are
>>> > to your willing saucer.
>>> >
>>> > r.
>>> Nice

...

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