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On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
<chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:

> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on the
> delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5
> months to well over a year like they are now.

Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
infrastructure of our country?

In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.

Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major challenge
and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
suspect it's by design...

On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:55:25 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
> <chromiu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on the
> > delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5
> > months to well over a year like they are now.
> Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
> infrastructure of our country?
>
> In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
> everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
> sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
>
> Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major challenge
> and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
> suspect it's by design...

We pissed away treasure the last quarter of a century in the middle-east while we farmed out manufacturing to the far-east while we grew potholes at home in the mid-west .

Be careful what you sow - Hillary Clinton

On Sep 27, 2022 at 4:07:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
<chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:55:25 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
>> <chromiu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on
>>> the
>> > delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5
>> > months to well over a year like they are now.
>> Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
>> infrastructure of our country?
>>
>> In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
>> everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
>> sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
>>
>> Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major
>> challenge
>> and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
>> suspect it's by design...
>>
> We pissed away treasure the last quarter of a century in the middle-east
> while we farmed out manufacturing to the far-east while we grew potholes at
> home in the mid-west .

Nope, we're not having rolling blackouts in California because of Israel.
Sorry, dude.

On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 7:27:57 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Sep 27, 2022 at 4:07:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
> <chromiu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:55:25 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
> >> On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
> >> <chromiu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on
> >>> the
> >> > delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5
> >> > months to well over a year like they are now.
> >> Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
> >> infrastructure of our country?
> >>
> >> In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
> >> everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
> >> sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
> >>
> >> Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major
> >> challenge
> >> and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
> >> suspect it's by design...

> > We pissed away treasure the last quarter of a century in the middle-east
> > while we farmed out manufacturing to the far-east while we grew potholes at
> > home in the mid-west .

> Nope, we're not having rolling blackouts in California because of Israel.
> Sorry, dude.

Forget Israel. If the United States had invested the trillions of dollars, wasted in the middle east over the last quarter century, on American infrastructure and semiconductor manufacturing, the USA wouldn't be at war with Russia and peer-competitor China today.

We have about 10 years to bust ass and make up for lost time. 10 years of HIGH inflation will be the price we pay for the folly in the middle east.

We must move faster yet avoid the potholes.

On 9/27/2022 3:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
> <chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on the
>> delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5
>> months to well over a year like they are now.
>
> Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
> infrastructure of our country?
>
> In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
> everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
> sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
>
> Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major challenge
> and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
> suspect it's by design...

You've got a few dozen more people now, who use a whole lot more
electricity. Has the infrastructure increased at the same rate?

On 9/27/2022 9:39 PM, suzeeq wrote:
> On 9/27/2022 3:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
>> <chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times
>>> on the
>>> delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging
>>> from 5
>>> months to well over a year like they are now.
>>
>> Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
>> infrastructure of our country?
>>
>> In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
>> everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
>> sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
>>
>> Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major
>> challenge
>> and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
>> suspect it's by design...
>
> You've got a few dozen more people now, who use a whole lot more
> electricity. Has the infrastructure increased at the same rate?

Duh, I knew I forgot to put in the word 'million'. A few dozen million
more people now than 60 years ago.

On Sep 27, 2022 at 9:39:16 PM PDT, "suzeeq" <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

> On 9/27/2022 3:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
>> <chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on the
>>> delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5
>>> months to well over a year like they are now.
>>
>> Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
>> infrastructure of our country?
>>
>> In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
>> everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
>> sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
>>
>> Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major
>> challenge
>> and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
>> suspect it's by design...
>
> You've got a few dozen more people now, who use a whole lot more
> electricity.

Yet another reason to halt the flow of hundreds of thousands of illegals into
the country. Instead Newsom and Democrats declare the state a 'sanctuary' and
entice even more to come.

> Has the infrastructure increased at the same rate?

No, the infrastructure hasn't kept up. It, in fact, it has decreased as the
Democrat-run government shuts down all the natural gas and nuclear generating
plants as a sacrifice to their 'climate change' god.

On 9/27/2022 5:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
> <chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on the
>> delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5
>> months to well over a year like they are now.
>
> Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward

You misspelled "devolving" you stupid fuck?

What happened to you? You used to seem educated and now you seem like
you've lost 50 or a hundred IQ points.

On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:42:58 PM UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:

> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on the delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5 months to well over a year like they are now.

> https://twitter.com/LukeGromen/status/1574884409647439879

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/4822/production/_126866481_ian_2022_27_sep_800-nc.png.webp

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJZTgynPGT8

Hurricane Ian: Cuba suffers complete blackout after storm

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63036617

chromiumtest56@gmail.com wrote:

> We pissed away treasure the last quarter of a century in the middle-east

TROLL-O-METER
5* 6* *7
4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
1* | *stuporous
0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity

On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 7:34:25 AM UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
> chromiu...@gmail.com wrote:

> > We pissed away treasure the last quarter of a century in the middle-east

> TROLL-O-METER
>
> 5* 6* *7
> 4* *8
> 3* *9
> 2* *10
> 1* | *stuporous
> 0* -*- *catatonic
> * |\ *comatose
> * \ *clinical death
> * \ *biological death
> * _\/ *demonic apparition
> * * *damned for all eternity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seTPc8pJIJg

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> On Sep 27, 2022 at 9:39:16 PM PDT, "suzeeq" <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/27/2022 3:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
>>> <chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on the
>>>> delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5
>>>> months to well over a year like they are now.
>>>
>>> Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
>>> infrastructure of our country?
>>>
>>> In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
>>> everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
>>> sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
>>>
>>> Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major
>> challenge
>>> and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
>>> suspect it's by design...
>>
>> You've got a few dozen more people now, who use a whole lot more
>> electricity.
>
> Yet another reason to halt the flow of hundreds of thousands of illegals into
the country. Instead Newsom and Democrats declare the state a 'sanctuary'
and
entice even more to come.
>
>> Has the infrastructure increased at the same rate?
>
> No, the infrastructure hasn't kept up. It, in fact, it has decreased as the
Democrat-run government shuts down all the natural gas and nuclear
generating
plants as a sacrifice to their 'climate change' god.
>

Natural gas isn’t natural. It’s methane.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> On Sep 27, 2022 at 4:07:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
<chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:55:25 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
>>> <chromiu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on
>>> the
>>>> delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5
>>>> months to well over a year like they are now.
>>> Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
>>> infrastructure of our country?
>>>
>>> In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
>>> everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
>>> sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
>>>
>>> Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major
>> challenge
>>> and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
>>> suspect it's by design...
>>>
>> We pissed away treasure the last quarter of a century in the middle-east
> while we farmed out manufacturing to the far-east while we grew potholes at
> home in the mid-west .
>
> Nope, we're not having rolling blackouts in California because of Israel.
Sorry, dude.
>

I messaged somebody about how we have the worst and most heavily find
nuclear reactor in the USA just up wind from me but we send all the juice
to California.

Spellcheck changed “juice“ to “Jews“ after I pushed send.

The recipient was very confused.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 8:40:16 AM UTC-4, anim8rfsk wrote:
> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 27, 2022 at 4:07:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
> <chromiu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:55:25 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
> >>> <chromiu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on
> >>> the
> >>>> delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5
> >>>> months to well over a year like they are now.
> >>> Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
> >>> infrastructure of our country?
> >>>
> >>> In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
> >>> everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
> >>> sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
> >>>
> >>> Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major
> >> challenge
> >>> and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
> >>> suspect it's by design...
> >>>
> >> We pissed away treasure the last quarter of a century in the middle-east
> > while we farmed out manufacturing to the far-east while we grew potholes at
> > home in the mid-west .
> >
> > Nope, we're not having rolling blackouts in California because of Israel.
> Sorry, dude.

> I messaged somebody about how we have the worst and most heavily find
> nuclear reactor in the USA just up wind from me but we send all the juice
> to California.
>
> Spellcheck changed “juice“ to “Jews“ after I pushed send.

Oh the humanity

On 9/28/2022 5:40 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 27, 2022 at 4:07:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
> <chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:55:25 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
>>>> <chromiu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on
>>>> the
>>>>> delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5
>>>>> months to well over a year like they are now.
>>>> Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
>>>> infrastructure of our country?
>>>>
>>>> In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
>>>> everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
>>>> sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
>>>>
>>>> Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major
>>> challenge
>>>> and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
>>>> suspect it's by design...
>>>>
>>> We pissed away treasure the last quarter of a century in the middle-east
>> while we farmed out manufacturing to the far-east while we grew potholes at
>> home in the mid-west .
>>
>> Nope, we're not having rolling blackouts in California because of Israel.
> Sorry, dude.
>>
>
> I messaged somebody about how we have the worst and most heavily find
> nuclear reactor in the USA just up wind from me but we send all the juice
> to California.
>
> Spellcheck changed “juice“ to “Jews“ after I pushed send.
>
> The recipient was very confused.
>

This time it changed 'fined' to 'find'.

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 22:55:17 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
><chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on the
>> delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5
>> months to well over a year like they are now.
>
>Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
>infrastructure of our country?
>
>In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
>everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
>sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.

That's what happens when you don't maintain the infrastructure. Back
in the 60s much of the infrastructure was new. It's one of the main
issues with our highway system where we haven't spent the money needed
to properly maintain much of it. With California and Texas there's
clearly been a decision made to not invest in the electrical grid so
you run into problems when the system gets stressed.

>
>Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major challenge
>and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
>suspect it's by design...
>

It is by design. A design meant to save money at a cost of the system
failing (to some degree) when stressed. If enough voters get pissed at
the current situation it will change but that will come at a cost.
That may mean higher taxes/utility bills or it may mean money being
redirected but nothing is going to change until the voters demand it.

With California it seems that many of the voters who have money (and
can likely have greater influence on the politicians with their
donations) don't have to worry as much about the electrical issues
thanks to solar power. They can get off the grid and just coast
through any rolling black outs that the state has.

On 9/28/2022 5:40 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 27, 2022 at 9:39:16 PM PDT, "suzeeq" <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/27/2022 3:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
>>>> <chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on the
>>>>> delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5
>>>>> months to well over a year like they are now.
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
>>>> infrastructure of our country?
>>>>
>>>> In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
>>>> everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
>>>> sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
>>>>
>>>> Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major
>>> challenge
>>>> and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
>>>> suspect it's by design...
>>>
>>> You've got a few dozen more people now, who use a whole lot more
>>> electricity.
>>
>> Yet another reason to halt the flow of hundreds of thousands of illegals into
> the country. Instead Newsom and Democrats declare the state a 'sanctuary'
> and
> entice even more to come.
>>
>>> Has the infrastructure increased at the same rate?
>>
>> No, the infrastructure hasn't kept up. It, in fact, it has decreased as the
> Democrat-run government shuts down all the natural gas and nuclear
> generating
> plants as a sacrifice to their 'climate change' god.
>>
>
> Natural gas isn’t natural. It’s methane.
>
Need gas diapers on our cows?

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 27, 2022 at 4:07:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
><chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:55:25 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
>>>> <chromiu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on
>>>> the
>>>>> delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5
>>>>> months to well over a year like they are now.
>>>> Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
>>>> infrastructure of our country?
>>>>
>>>> In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
>>>> everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
>>>> sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
>>>>
>>>> Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major
>>> challenge
>>>> and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
>>>> suspect it's by design...
>>>>
>>> We pissed away treasure the last quarter of a century in the middle-east
>> while we farmed out manufacturing to the far-east while we grew potholes at
>> home in the mid-west .
>>
>> Nope, we're not having rolling blackouts in California because of Israel.
>Sorry, dude.
>>
>
>I messaged somebody about how we have the worst and most heavily find
>nuclear reactor in the USA just up wind from me but we send all the juice
>to California.
>
>Spellcheck changed “juice“ to “Jews“ after I pushed send.
>
>The recipient was very confused.

The Jews are behind everything.

In article <acq8jhlf1hnatsqmfr2k1si9l2h43ad5us@4ax.com>,
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 22:55:17 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
> ><chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on
> >> the delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging
> >> from 5 months to well over a year like they are now.
> >
> >Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
> >infrastructure of our country?
> >
> >In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
> >everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
> >sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
>
> That's what happens when you don't maintain the infrastructure. Back
> in the 60s much of the infrastructure was new. It's one of the main
> issues with our highway system where we haven't spent the money needed
> to properly maintain much of it. With California and Texas there's
> clearly been a decision made to not invest in the electrical grid so
> you run into problems when the system gets stressed.

> > Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major
> > challenge and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person
> > might almost suspect it's by design...

> It is by design. A design meant to save money at a cost of the system

More like a design meant to give politicians the opportunity to crow
about "zero emissions" and how green they are and the public just has to
suffer in service to their egos and virtue-signaling.

The problem isn't an unmaintained infrastructure. When I first moved
here 12 years ago, the infrastructure handled things just fine. Then
Jerry Brown and his imp Gavin Newsom, along with their accomplices in
the state legislature, began a concerted effort to *dismantle*
California's robust power grid and replace it with windmills and solar
panels.

> failing (to some degree) when stressed. If enough voters get pissed at
> the current situation it will change but that will come at a cost.

No, voters here are constantly pissed at the state of things, then
reliably vote Democrat anyway.

It's amazing how often I get to talking with people while standing in
lines or sitting at bars in a restaurants and they're consistently
pissed about the decline in the quality of life in California and hate
what Newsom and Sacramento are doing but still refuse to vote for a
Republican because they've been brainwashed into believing that's the
equivalent of voting for Lucifer himself.

So Newsom and his cabal get to create all manner of havoc here while
knowing how deeply stupid California voters are and that they're in no
danger of being kicked out of office no matter what they do.

Newsom is the Trump of California-- he could walk down Santa Monica
Boulevard and shoot someone and people would still vote for him.

> With California it seems that many of the voters who have money (and
> can likely have greater influence on the politicians with their
> donations) don't have to worry as much about the electrical issues
> thanks to solar power. They can get off the grid and just coast
> through any rolling black outs that the state has.

And generators. The legislature has also proposed outlawing private
ownership of generators-- ostensibly because they're not 'green' enough
but really because it's mostly white people who can afford to have them
and it's not fair if whites don't suffer the same as all the bipocks.

Oh, and solar panels don't do you any good in a blackout. We have a law
here in California that when the grid goes down, your solar system has
to turn off as well. Supposedly there's some kind of technical issue
where a bunch of houses that are still powered will cause problems with
the rest of the grid when it's down, but I wouldn't be surprised if the
real reason is, again, 'fairness', since solar-equipped homes are more
likely to be found in white neighborhoods.

On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:42:58 PM UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on the delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging from 5 months to well over a year like they are now.

> https://twitter.com/LukeGromen/status/1574884409647439879

Hurricane Ian Threatens to Leave Florida in the Dark for Days
Governor DeSantis says power outages will be widespread
Utilities are marshalling 30,000 workers to restore power
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-28/hurricane-ian-threatens-to-leave-florida-in-the-dark-for-days

On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 10:38:25 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <acq8jhlf1hnatsqmfr2k1si9l2h43ad5us@4ax.com>,
> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 22:55:17 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
>> ><chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times on
>> >> the delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging
>> >> from 5 months to well over a year like they are now.
>> >
>> >Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
>> >infrastructure of our country?
>> >
>> >In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time for
>> >everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
>> >sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
>>
>> That's what happens when you don't maintain the infrastructure. Back
>> in the 60s much of the infrastructure was new. It's one of the main
>> issues with our highway system where we haven't spent the money needed
>> to properly maintain much of it. With California and Texas there's
>> clearly been a decision made to not invest in the electrical grid so
>> you run into problems when the system gets stressed.
>
>> > Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major
>> > challenge and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person
>> > might almost suspect it's by design...
>
>> It is by design. A design meant to save money at a cost of the system
>
>More like a design meant to give politicians the opportunity to crow
>about "zero emissions" and how green they are and the public just has to
>suffer in service to their egos and virtue-signaling.
>
>The problem isn't an unmaintained infrastructure. When I first moved
>here 12 years ago, the infrastructure handled things just fine. Then
>Jerry Brown and his imp Gavin Newsom, along with their accomplices in
>the state legislature, began a concerted effort to *dismantle*
>California's robust power grid and replace it with windmills and solar
>panels.

Nothing wrong with moving to windmills and solar panels, but they need
to consider that those don't produce power 24x7x365. So they need to
consider those as a bonus and not a replacement for the existing power
plants. At least not until they have massive solar power plants and
banks of batteries which no one has at this point, or is likely to
have any time soon.

>> failing (to some degree) when stressed. If enough voters get pissed at
>> the current situation it will change but that will come at a cost.
>
>No, voters here are constantly pissed at the state of things, then
>reliably vote Democrat anyway.

I would think there would be enough variety in the Democrat candidates
that voters could find some that want to improve the infrastructure.

>It's amazing how often I get to talking with people while standing in
>lines or sitting at bars in a restaurants and they're consistently
>pissed about the decline in the quality of life in California and hate
>what Newsom and Sacramento are doing but still refuse to vote for a
>Republican because they've been brainwashed into believing that's the
>equivalent of voting for Lucifer himself.
>
>So Newsom and his cabal get to create all manner of havoc here while
>knowing how deeply stupid California voters are and that they're in no
>danger of being kicked out of office no matter what they do.
>
>Newsom is the Trump of California-- he could walk down Santa Monica
>Boulevard and shoot someone and people would still vote for him.
>
>> With California it seems that many of the voters who have money (and
>> can likely have greater influence on the politicians with their
>> donations) don't have to worry as much about the electrical issues
>> thanks to solar power. They can get off the grid and just coast
>> through any rolling black outs that the state has.
>
>And generators. The legislature has also proposed outlawing private
>ownership of generators-- ostensibly because they're not 'green' enough
>but really because it's mostly white people who can afford to have them
>and it's not fair if whites don't suffer the same as all the bipocks.
>
>Oh, and solar panels don't do you any good in a blackout. We have a law
>here in California that when the grid goes down, your solar system has
>to turn off as well. Supposedly there's some kind of technical issue
>where a bunch of houses that are still powered will cause problems with
>the rest of the grid when it's down, but I wouldn't be surprised if the
>real reason is, again, 'fairness', since solar-equipped homes are more
>likely to be found in white neighborhoods.

That's only an issue if the system doesn't automatically handle the
blackout by disconnecting from the system. Or the homeowner could
disconnect completely from the grid. Not likely to work for your
average home owner but I've seen some mega mansions that were covered
in solar panels so they could easily disconnect from the grid.

True fairness would require Newsom to also experience the blackouts
but I bet the power never goes out in his home or office.

> Ubiquitous wrote:
> > ThinBlueMime
> >
> > We pissed away treasure the last quarter of a century in the middle-east
>
> TROLL-O-METER

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1
7 Feb 2007

How the US sent $12bn in cash to Iraq. And watched it vanish

Special flights brought in tonnes of banknotes which disappeared into the war zone

The US flew nearly $12bn in shrink-wrapped $100 bills into Iraq, then distributed the cash with no proper control over who was receiving it and how it was being spent.

The staggering scale of the biggest transfer of cash in the history of the Federal Reserve has been graphically laid bare by a US congressional committee.

In the year after the invasion of Iraq in 2003 nearly 281 million notes, weighing 363 tonnes, were sent from New York to Baghdad for disbursement to Iraqi ministries and US contractors. Using C-130 planes, the deliveries took place once or twice a month with the biggest of $2,401,600,000 on June 22 2004, six days before the handover.

Details of the shipments have emerged in a memorandum prepared for the meeting of the House committee on oversight and government reform which is examining Iraqi reconstruction. Its chairman, Henry Waxman, a fierce critic of the war, said the way the cash had been handled was mind-boggling. "The numbers are so large that it doesn't seem possible that they're true. Who in their right mind would send 363 tonnes of cash into a war zone?"

The memorandum details the casual manner in which the US-led Coalition Provisional Authority disbursed the money, which came from Iraqi oil sales, surplus funds from the UN oil-for-food programme and seized Iraqi assets.

"One CPA official described an environment awash in $100 bills," the memorandum says. "One contractor received a $2m payment in a duffel bag stuffed with shrink-wrapped bundles of currency. Auditors discovered that the key to a vault was kept in an unsecured backpack.

"They also found that $774,300 in cash had been stolen from one division's vault. Cash payments were made from the back of a pickup truck, and cash was stored in unguarded sacks in Iraqi ministry offices. One official was given $6.75m in cash, and was ordered to spend it in one week before the interim Iraqi government took control of Iraqi funds."

The minutes from a May 2004 CPA meeting reveal "a single disbursement of $500m in security funding labelled merely 'TBD', meaning 'to be determined'."

The memorandum concludes: "Many of the funds appear to have been lost to corruption and waste ... thousands of 'ghost employees' were receiving pay cheques from Iraqi ministries under the CPA's control. Some of the funds could have enriched both criminals and insurgents fighting the United States."

According to Stuart Bowen, the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction, the $8.8bn funds to Iraqi ministries were disbursed "without assurance the monies were properly used or accounted for". But, according to the memorandum, "he now believes that the lack of accountability and transparency extended to the entire $20bn expended by the CPA".

To oversee the expenditure the CPA was supposed to appoint an independent certified public accounting firm. "Instead the CPA hired an obscure consulting firm called North Star Consultants Inc. The firm was so small that it reportedly operates out of a private home in San Diego." Mr Bowen found that the company "did not perform a review of internal controls as required by the contract".

However, evidence before the committee suggests that senior American officials were unconcerned about the situation because the billions were not US taxpayers' money. Paul Bremer, the head of the CPA, reminded the committee that "the subject of today's hearing is the CPA's use and accounting for funds belonging to the Iraqi people held in the so-called Development Fund for Iraq. These are not appropriated American funds. They are Iraqi funds. I believe the CPA discharged its responsibilities to manage these Iraqi funds on behalf of the Iraqi people."

Bremer's financial adviser, retired Admiral David Oliver, is even more direct. The memorandum quotes an interview with the BBC World Service. Asked what had happened to the $8.8bn he replied: "I have no idea. I can't tell you whether or not the money went to the right things or didn't - nor do I actually think it's important."

Q: "But the fact is billions of dollars have disappeared without trace."

Oliver: "Of their money. Billions of dollars of their money, yeah I understand. I'm saying what difference does it make?"

Mr Bremer, whose disbanding of the Iraqi armed forces and de-Ba'athification programme have been blamed as contributing to the present chaos, told the committee: "I acknowledge that I made mistakes and that with the benefit of hindsight, I would have made some decisions differently. Our top priority was to get the economy moving again. The first step was to get money into the hands of the Iraqi people as quickly as possible."

Millions of civil service families had not received salaries or pensions for months and there was no effective banking system. "It was not a perfect solution," he said. "Delay might well have exacerbated the nascent insurgency and thereby increased the danger to Americans."

> shawn
> > BTR1701
> >
> >Oh, and solar panels don't do you any good in a blackout. We have a law
> >here in California that when the grid goes down, your solar system has
> >to turn off as well. Supposedly there's some kind of technical issue
> >where a bunch of houses that are still powered will cause problems with
> >the rest of the grid when it's down, but I wouldn't be surprised if the
> >real reason is, again, 'fairness', since solar-equipped homes are more
> >likely to be found in white neighborhoods.
>
> That's only an issue if the system doesn't automatically handle the
> blackout by disconnecting from the system. Or the homeowner could
> disconnect completely from the grid. Not likely to work for your average
> home owner but I've seen some mega mansions that were covered
> in solar panels so they could easily disconnect from the grid.

You just pull the main breaker in your breaker box/fuse box and it will
disconnect the house electrical system from the electrical line coming
from the telephone pole.

https://www.askthebuilder.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/mainbreaker.jpg

On 9/28/2022 12:45 AM, suzeeq wrote:
> On 9/27/2022 9:39 PM, suzeeq wrote:
>> On 9/27/2022 3:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Sep 27, 2022 at 3:42:56 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
>>> <chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I suspect that when Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992, lead times
>>>> on the
>>>> delivery of new electrical transformers were not reportedly ranging
>>>> from 5
>>>> months to well over a year like they are now.
>>>
>>> Doesn't it seem like we're evolving backward with regard to the basic
>>> infrastructure of our country?
>>>
>>> In 1960, California had no problem keeping the lights on all the time
>>> for
>>> everyone. Now we can't get through a summer without having to spend time
>>> sitting in the dark, reading by candlelight like it's 1832.
>>>
>>> Things we'd pretty much perfected a half-century ago are now a major
>>> challenge
>>> and it's not due to scarcity or shortage. A thinking person might almost
>>> suspect it's by design...
>>
>> You've got a few dozen more people now, who use a whole lot more
>> electricity. Has the infrastructure increased at the same rate?
>
> Duh, I knew I forgot to put in the word 'million'. A few dozen million
> more people now than 60 years ago.

(Maybe just me, but I think it was good sarcasm as posted.)