On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 12:28:03 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <thcbg4$1nkkh$1@dont-email.me>,
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/1/2022 10:23 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> > Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> >> On 4K and definitely being watched: The Thing, They Live, Escape From
>> >> New York, Escape From LA, Prince of Darkness, Halloween III (I thought I
>> >> had '78 in 4K, but I guess I don't).
>> >
>> > I finally watched season of the witch for the first time within the last
>> > year. Man, what a snoozer. I guess it’s like they say, no shat, no show!
>
>> I was a baby when the first two Halloween movies came out so they meant
>> nothing to me. But Halloween III was on network TV all the time when I
>> was kid and I watched it over and over again. I *love* that movie!
>> It's terrifying! I don't even really care for the original Carpenter
>> movie. I'll watch them, but they're no Halloween III. That's probably
>> why I couldn't be bothered to upgrade to 4K. But I was quick to snatch
>> up Halloween III in 4K! :-)
>
>I will never accept III as part of the HALLOWEEN canon. I don't know
>what that abomination of a movie is, but it's not a HALLOWEEN movie.
>They marketed it as a sequel to HALLOWEEN I & II, and off I went happily
>to the theater to see the latest round of teenagers die at the hand of
>Michael Myers and what did I get? A movie about a crazy old man trying
>to kill kids with Halloween masks.
>
>Bah! A pox on that movie!

I enjoyed the movie for what it was but never saw it as part of the
HALLOWEEN canon.

On 10/2/2022 1:26 PM, shawn wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 22:23:12 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2022 5:40 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/1/2022 7:28 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> I watched:
>>>>>>>
>
>>>>
>>>>> The Thing (4K disc) 1982 John Carpenter classic starring Kurt Russell
>>>>> and Keith David as Americans at an Alaskan base trying to stop a Thing
>>>>> from Another World from killing them. The movie as always holds up
>>>>> great. It really helps to watch both movies back-to-back. I forgot
>>>>> that they went to the Norwegian base and found the remains of various
>>>>> deformed monsters that we get to see in action in the prequel.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you look for my credit?
>
> I downloaded this off of Easynews and looked for your credit but I
> didn't see one for anim8fsk. Instead there was one for some guy (I'm
> assuming it's a guy but who knows) called Fred Kuentz. Is he some
> relation to you? ;)
>
>>> I think I pulled the disc the second the credits hit.
>>
>> Gasp!
>>
>> If you’ve got the disk, check and see if it’s got special features, and if
>> it does, see if it still carries the documentary TERROR TAKES SHAPE. I did
>> the light rays coming through the titles animation for the various
>> segments. We originally did that for the laser disk and as we were doing it
>> made sure it would work for some newfangled thing called DVD. They’ve
>> maintained that stuff and our credits through the various releases
>> including the Blu-rays all these decades which is really freaking amazing.
>
> Nice little effect that fits with theme of the movie. Especially with
> that background music playing throughout the video.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They Live (4K disc) John Carpenter's 1988 sci-fi action movie starring
>>>>> Roddy Piper and Keith David as two guys down on their luck who discover
>>>>> an alien conspiracy to take over the world. The movie holds up great.
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso
>
> I've enjoyed all of Carpenter's work. This one is just fun even if it
> does have a message.
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjEIXoWk9N4

>>>>> A couple of years ago I watched a bunch of John Carpenter movies in my
>>>>> collection, then right after I watched them almost all of them got 4K
>>>>> upgrades. I *hate* it when that happens! Anyway, I'm watching them
>>>>> again this year for "Halloween," but I'm still struggling to decide if I
>>>>> should watch the movies that didn't get a 4K upgrade or wait until they
>>>>> eventually go 4K. Still on the fence as to which way to go.
>>>>
>>>> Tell us the titles so we can vote!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> On 4K and definitely being watched: The Thing, They Live, Escape From
>>> New York, Escape From LA, Prince of Darkness, Halloween III (I thought I
>>> had '78 in 4K, but I guess I don't).
>>
>> I finally watched season of the witch for the first time within the last
>> year. Man, what a snoozer. I guess it’s like they say, no shat, no show!
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On blu-ray and definitely being watched: "Halloween" and "John
>>> Carpenter's Vampires."
>>
>> Did I dream it or did I see an ad last night for a final Halloween movie?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On the fence: "Big Trouble in Little China" - I *do* want to watch this.
>>> But I just know the second I watch it, it'll get a 4K release!
>
> That's fine as it's well worth watching twice. Lord knows I've
> probably seen it in full at least twice and bits and pieces of it
> multiple times as I've come across it over the years.
>
>>> Other Carpenter flicks I own on blu-ray, but don't plan to watch:
>>> "Ghosts of Mars" - I *almost* watched this last night. But changed my
>>> mind. Now it's pretty much off the list.
>
> It's an okay movie but not one I would rush to see.
>
>>> "Starman" - Another I was on the fence about and considered watching
>>> last night. But now it's also off the list.
>>> Memoirs of an Invisible Man. I have no interest in watching this again
>>> any time soon.
>>> In the Mouth of Madness - I just watched this, so no interest in seeing
>>> it again this soon.
>>>
>>> So really the only one I'm on the fence about is "Big Trouble in Little
>>> China" and the only thing keeping me from watching it is hope for a 4K
>>> upgrade. On the other hand I think if I do watch it, I might try to
>>> pair it with Prince of Darkness since both movies share the same star.
>
> For the longest time I couldn't think of what star you were thinking
> of. I had forgotten Victor Wong's role in PRINCE OF DARKNESS but very
> much remember his role as Egg Shen in BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA.
> Though the two movies have a very different feel too them. If I were
> pairing the movies up I would probably pair up BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE
> CHINA with the "Escape From" movies as the feel of the pair goes
> better with BTILC.

He's also in The Golden Child, which would go great with BTILC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr0JXSM_0Nk

On 10/2/2022 1:27 PM, shawn wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 12:28:03 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <thcbg4$1nkkh$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/1/2022 10:23 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>
>>>>> On 4K and definitely being watched: The Thing, They Live, Escape From
>>>>> New York, Escape From LA, Prince of Darkness, Halloween III (I thought I
>>>>> had '78 in 4K, but I guess I don't).
>>>>
>>>> I finally watched season of the witch for the first time within the last
>>>> year. Man, what a snoozer. I guess it’s like they say, no shat, no show!
>>
>>> I was a baby when the first two Halloween movies came out so they meant
>>> nothing to me. But Halloween III was on network TV all the time when I
>>> was kid and I watched it over and over again. I *love* that movie!
>>> It's terrifying! I don't even really care for the original Carpenter
>>> movie. I'll watch them, but they're no Halloween III. That's probably
>>> why I couldn't be bothered to upgrade to 4K. But I was quick to snatch
>>> up Halloween III in 4K! :-)
>>
>> I will never accept III as part of the HALLOWEEN canon. I don't know
>> what that abomination of a movie is, but it's not a HALLOWEEN movie.
>> They marketed it as a sequel to HALLOWEEN I & II, and off I went happily
>> to the theater to see the latest round of teenagers die at the hand of
>> Michael Myers and what did I get? A movie about a crazy old man trying
>> to kill kids with Halloween masks.
>>
>> Bah! A pox on that movie!
>
> I enjoyed the movie for what it was but never saw it as part of the
> HALLOWEEN canon.

It's not. There's a scene in Halloween III where the original movie is
going to air on TV. Although the last movie did have a not too subtle
reference to III, which I got a huge kick out of seeing.

In article <thd01c$1rh99$2@dont-email.me>,
Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> On 10/2/2022 1:27 PM, shawn wrote:
> > On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 12:28:03 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <thcbg4$1nkkh$1@dont-email.me>,
> >> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 10/1/2022 10:23 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> >>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> On 4K and definitely being watched: The Thing, They Live, Escape From
> >>>>> New York, Escape From LA, Prince of Darkness, Halloween III (I thought I
> >>>>> had '78 in 4K, but I guess I don't).
> >>>>
> >>>> I finally watched season of the witch for the first time within the last
> >>>> year. Man, what a snoozer. I guess it’s like they say, no shat, no show!
> >>
> >>> I was a baby when the first two Halloween movies came out so they meant
> >>> nothing to me. But Halloween III was on network TV all the time when I
> >>> was kid and I watched it over and over again. I *love* that movie!
> >>> It's terrifying! I don't even really care for the original Carpenter
> >>> movie. I'll watch them, but they're no Halloween III. That's probably
> >>> why I couldn't be bothered to upgrade to 4K. But I was quick to snatch
> >>> up Halloween III in 4K! :-)
> >>
> >> I will never accept III as part of the HALLOWEEN canon. I don't know
> >> what that abomination of a movie is, but it's not a HALLOWEEN movie.
> >> They marketed it as a sequel to HALLOWEEN I & II, and off I went happily
> >> to the theater to see the latest round of teenagers die at the hand of
> >> Michael Myers and what did I get? A movie about a crazy old man trying
> >> to kill kids with Halloween masks.
> >>
> >> Bah! A pox on that movie!
> >
> > I enjoyed the movie for what it was but never saw it as part of the
> > HALLOWEEN canon.
>
> It's not. There's a scene in Halloween III where the original movie is
> going to air on TV. Although the last movie did have a not too subtle
> reference to III, which I got a huge kick out of seeing.

I was bait-and-switched!

Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> On 10/2/2022 1:27 PM, shawn wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 12:28:03 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <thcbg4$1nkkh$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/1/2022 10:23 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> On 4K and definitely being watched: The Thing, They Live, Escape From
>>>>>> New York, Escape From LA, Prince of Darkness, Halloween III (I thought I
>>>>>> had '78 in 4K, but I guess I don't).
>>>>>
>>>>> I finally watched season of the witch for the first time within the last
>>>>> year. Man, what a snoozer. I guess it’s like they say, no shat, no show!
>>>
>>>> I was a baby when the first two Halloween movies came out so they meant
>>>> nothing to me. But Halloween III was on network TV all the time when I
>>>> was kid and I watched it over and over again. I *love* that movie!
>>>> It's terrifying! I don't even really care for the original Carpenter
>>>> movie. I'll watch them, but they're no Halloween III. That's probably
>>>> why I couldn't be bothered to upgrade to 4K. But I was quick to snatch
>>>> up Halloween III in 4K! :-)
>>>
>>> I will never accept III as part of the HALLOWEEN canon. I don't know
>>> what that abomination of a movie is, but it's not a HALLOWEEN movie.
>>> They marketed it as a sequel to HALLOWEEN I & II, and off I went happily
>>> to the theater to see the latest round of teenagers die at the hand of
>>> Michael Myers and what did I get? A movie about a crazy old man trying
>>> to kill kids with Halloween masks.
>>>
>>> Bah! A pox on that movie!
>>
>> I enjoyed the movie for what it was but never saw it as part of the
>> HALLOWEEN canon.
>
> It's not. There's a scene in Halloween III where the original movie is
> going to air on TV. Although the last movie did have a not too subtle
> reference to III, which I got a huge kick out of seeing.
>
>

Crap. I forgot to mention that DUEL AT DIABLO was on the prime last week
and now it’s rolled off. Idiots. They couldn’t keep it showing through
Halloween?

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> On 10/2/2022 1:26 PM, shawn wrote:
>> On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 22:23:12 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>> On 10/1/2022 5:40 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/1/2022 7:28 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I watched:
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Thing (4K disc) 1982 John Carpenter classic starring Kurt Russell
>>>>>> and Keith David as Americans at an Alaskan base trying to stop a Thing
>>>>>> from Another World from killing them. The movie as always holds up
>>>>>> great. It really helps to watch both movies back-to-back. I forgot
>>>>>> that they went to the Norwegian base and found the remains of various
>>>>>> deformed monsters that we get to see in action in the prequel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you look for my credit?
>>
>> I downloaded this off of Easynews and looked for your credit but I
>> didn't see one for anim8fsk. Instead there was one for some guy (I'm
>> assuming it's a guy but who knows) called Fred Kuentz. Is he some
>> relation to you? ;)
>>
>>>> I think I pulled the disc the second the credits hit.
>>>
>>> Gasp!
>>>
>>> If you’ve got the disk, check and see if it’s got special features, and if
>>> it does, see if it still carries the documentary TERROR TAKES SHAPE. I did
>>> the light rays coming through the titles animation for the various
>>> segments. We originally did that for the laser disk and as we were doing it
>>> made sure it would work for some newfangled thing called DVD. They’ve
>>> maintained that stuff and our credits through the various releases
>>> including the Blu-rays all these decades which is really freaking amazing.
>>
>> Nice little effect that fits with theme of the movie. Especially with
>> that background music playing throughout the video.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They Live (4K disc) John Carpenter's 1988 sci-fi action movie starring
>>>>>> Roddy Piper and Keith David as two guys down on their luck who discover
>>>>>> an alien conspiracy to take over the world. The movie holds up great.
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso
>>
>> I've enjoyed all of Carpenter's work. This one is just fun even if it
>> does have a message.
>>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjEIXoWk9N4
>
>
>>>>>> A couple of years ago I watched a bunch of John Carpenter movies in my
>>>>>> collection, then right after I watched them almost all of them got 4K
>>>>>> upgrades. I *hate* it when that happens! Anyway, I'm watching them
>>>>>> again this year for "Halloween," but I'm still struggling to decide if I
>>>>>> should watch the movies that didn't get a 4K upgrade or wait until they
>>>>>> eventually go 4K. Still on the fence as to which way to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell us the titles so we can vote!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4K and definitely being watched: The Thing, They Live, Escape From
>>>> New York, Escape From LA, Prince of Darkness, Halloween III (I thought I
>>>> had '78 in 4K, but I guess I don't).
>>>
>>> I finally watched season of the witch for the first time within the last
>>> year. Man, what a snoozer. I guess it’s like they say, no shat, no show!
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On blu-ray and definitely being watched: "Halloween" and "John
>>>> Carpenter's Vampires."
>>>
>>> Did I dream it or did I see an ad last night for a final Halloween movie?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On the fence: "Big Trouble in Little China" - I *do* want to watch this.
>>>> But I just know the second I watch it, it'll get a 4K release!
>>
>> That's fine as it's well worth watching twice. Lord knows I've
>> probably seen it in full at least twice and bits and pieces of it
>> multiple times as I've come across it over the years.
>>
>>>> Other Carpenter flicks I own on blu-ray, but don't plan to watch:
>>>> "Ghosts of Mars" - I *almost* watched this last night. But changed my
>>>> mind. Now it's pretty much off the list.
>>
>> It's an okay movie but not one I would rush to see.
>>
>>>> "Starman" - Another I was on the fence about and considered watching
>>>> last night. But now it's also off the list.
>>>> Memoirs of an Invisible Man. I have no interest in watching this again
>>>> any time soon.
>>>> In the Mouth of Madness - I just watched this, so no interest in seeing
>>>> it again this soon.
>>>>
>>>> So really the only one I'm on the fence about is "Big Trouble in Little
>>>> China" and the only thing keeping me from watching it is hope for a 4K
>>>> upgrade. On the other hand I think if I do watch it, I might try to
>>>> pair it with Prince of Darkness since both movies share the same star.
>>
>> For the longest time I couldn't think of what star you were thinking
>> of. I had forgotten Victor Wong's role in PRINCE OF DARKNESS but very
>> much remember his role as Egg Shen in BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA.
>> Though the two movies have a very different feel too them. If I were
>> pairing the movies up I would probably pair up BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE
>> CHINA with the "Escape From" movies as the feel of the pair goes
>> better with BTILC.
>
> He's also in The Golden Child, which would go great with BTILC
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr0JXSM_0Nk

If not for the golden child, Eddie Murphy would’ve been William Shatner‘s
love interest in Star Trek for the whale one.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 22:23:12 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2022 5:40 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/1/2022 7:28 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> I watched:
>>>>>>>
>
>>>>
>>>>> The Thing (4K disc) 1982 John Carpenter classic starring Kurt Russell
>>>>> and Keith David as Americans at an Alaskan base trying to stop a Thing
>>>>> from Another World from killing them. The movie as always holds up
>>>>> great. It really helps to watch both movies back-to-back. I forgot
>>>>> that they went to the Norwegian base and found the remains of various
>>>>> deformed monsters that we get to see in action in the prequel.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you look for my credit?
>
> I downloaded this off of Easynews and looked for your credit but I
> didn't see one for anim8fsk. Instead there was one for some guy (I'm
> assuming it's a guy but who knows) called Fred Kuentz. Is he some
> relation to you? ;)

I’ve been doxxed! Aieeeeee!

I still need to find out if this survives onto the 4K editions. If so, it’s
got to be some kind of record!

(Consults Amazon)

Yikes, there are a bunch of different 4K editions. I was not expecting
that.

The first one, the metric set for 120 bucks, says it includes terror takes
shape.

The second one, another metric set for 23 bucks, has the exact same
description as the $120 version including Terror takes shape.

There’s a $100 Amazon exclusive steel book region free 4K that doesn’t say
what the hell you get. Don’t you think if anything had information it would
be that one?

There’s a $19 4K that actually includes a picture of the back of the box
and sure enough there I am

Well all in all I came out pretty good on that one. :-)

>
>>> I think I pulled the disc the second the credits hit.
>>
>> Gasp!
>>
>> If you’ve got the disk, check and see if it’s got special features, and if
>> it does, see if it still carries the documentary TERROR TAKES SHAPE. I did
>> the light rays coming through the titles animation for the various
>> segments. We originally did that for the laser disk and as we were doing it
>> made sure it would work for some newfangled thing called DVD. They’ve
>> maintained that stuff and our credits through the various releases
>> including the Blu-rays all these decades which is really freaking amazing.
>
> Nice little effect that fits with theme of the movie. Especially with
> that background music playing throughout the video.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They Live (4K disc) John Carpenter's 1988 sci-fi action movie starring
>>>>> Roddy Piper and Keith David as two guys down on their luck who discover
>>>>> an alien conspiracy to take over the world. The movie holds up great.
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso
>
> I've enjoyed all of Carpenter's work. This one is just fun even if it
> does have a message.
>
>>>>> A couple of years ago I watched a bunch of John Carpenter movies in my
>>>>> collection, then right after I watched them almost all of them got 4K
>>>>> upgrades. I *hate* it when that happens! Anyway, I'm watching them
>>>>> again this year for "Halloween," but I'm still struggling to decide if I
>>>>> should watch the movies that didn't get a 4K upgrade or wait until they
>>>>> eventually go 4K. Still on the fence as to which way to go.
>>>>
>>>> Tell us the titles so we can vote!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> On 4K and definitely being watched: The Thing, They Live, Escape From
>>> New York, Escape From LA, Prince of Darkness, Halloween III (I thought I
>>> had '78 in 4K, but I guess I don't).
>>
>> I finally watched season of the witch for the first time within the last
>> year. Man, what a snoozer. I guess it’s like they say, no shat, no show!
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On blu-ray and definitely being watched: "Halloween" and "John
>>> Carpenter's Vampires."
>>
>> Did I dream it or did I see an ad last night for a final Halloween movie?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On the fence: "Big Trouble in Little China" - I *do* want to watch this.
>>> But I just know the second I watch it, it'll get a 4K release!
>
> That's fine as it's well worth watching twice. Lord knows I've
> probably seen it in full at least twice and bits and pieces of it
> multiple times as I've come across it over the years.
>
>>> Other Carpenter flicks I own on blu-ray, but don't plan to watch:
>>> "Ghosts of Mars" - I *almost* watched this last night. But changed my
>>> mind. Now it's pretty much off the list.
>
> It's an okay movie but not one I would rush to see.
>
>>> "Starman" - Another I was on the fence about and considered watching
>>> last night. But now it's also off the list.
>>> Memoirs of an Invisible Man. I have no interest in watching this again
>>> any time soon.
>>> In the Mouth of Madness - I just watched this, so no interest in seeing
>>> it again this soon.
>>>
>>> So really the only one I'm on the fence about is "Big Trouble in Little
>>> China" and the only thing keeping me from watching it is hope for a 4K
>>> upgrade. On the other hand I think if I do watch it, I might try to
>>> pair it with Prince of Darkness since both movies share the same star.
>
> For the longest time I couldn't think of what star you were thinking
> of. I had forgotten Victor Wong's role in PRINCE OF DARKNESS but very
> much remember his role as Egg Shen in BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA.
> Though the two movies have a very different feel too them. If I were
> pairing the movies up I would probably pair up BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE
> CHINA with the "Escape From" movies as the feel of the pair goes
> better with BTILC.
>
>> Sounds like you have chosen wisely
> ;)
>

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

atropos@mac.com wrote:
> "Arthur Lipscomb" <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>> They Live (4K disc) John Carpenter's 1988 sci-fi action movie starring
>> Roddy Piper and Keith David as two guys down on their luck who discover
>> an alien conspiracy to take over the world. The movie holds up great.
>
>"I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble and I'm all out of bubble gum!"

Factcheck: That statement evaluates to false.

--
Let's go Brandon!

anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>> On 10/1/2022 5:40 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>>>> The Thing from Another World (TCM) 1951 sci-fi horror movie about a
>>>> group of soldiers and scientists at an U.S. Air Force base in Alaska who
>>>> discover a space "carrot" frozen in a crashed alien ship. The space
>>>> carrot unfreezes and goes on a rampage. Since it's a space carrot
>>>> bullets have no effect on it, but eventually they figure out how to kill
>>>> it using electricity. I'm sure I must have watched this movie all the
>>>> way through once before years ago but didn't remember it all that well.

Was this the movie upon which Carpeenter's Thing movies were based?

>>>> As an aside, I am familiar with Klaus Kinski from this, and a 1982
>>>> sci-fi movie called "Android" that used to come on TV all the time when
>>>> I was a kid. I haven't seen it since the early 80s and was very
>>>> interested in watching it again. But I checked and it's not available
>>>> to stream.
>>>
>>> Most of us are familiar with him because of his awesome daughter.

I remember his song being used on Rush Limbaugh to introduce gay news.

>> I recently picked up "Cat People" in 4K. I think technically I probably
>> saw it once before but I have no real memory of it. If anything I'm not
>> even sure I liked it that one time I might have watched it. But this
>> was mostly a blind buy and giving it a second chance in 4K.
>>
>> Now that I think about it, I don't think I have "Cat People" on my movie
>> watch list.
>>
>>>> The Thing (blu-ray) 2011 prequel to John Carpenter's 1982 classic.
>>>> This movie tells the story of what happened to the Norwegian station
>>>> that was already destroyed at the start of the Carpenter movie. This is
>>>> actually a really good movie and syncs up great with the Carpenter
>>>> version.
>>>
>>> I like this. Most people that love the 1982 film hate it. They’re always
>>> screaming about how much worse the CGI effects look than the practical
>>> effects in the carpenter version.
>>
>> I've watched the 2011 version multiple times, but last night was the
>> first time I finally listened to the commentary. On the commentary they
>> mentioned being in contact with Carpenter about making the movie. Not
>> that he had any say, but just as a courtesy and to get his help so the
>> movies aligned properly.
>>
>> They mentioned that when Carpenter made his version he had a year's
>> worth of pre-production to get all the practical effects right. They
>> had 3 months, which was better than usual. They said that's why a lot
>> of modern movies are forced to use CGI because they simply don't have
>> time to do things practical with the release schedules the studios force
>> them to work under.
>>
>>>> The Thing (4K disc) 1982 John Carpenter classic starring Kurt Russell
>>>> and Keith David as Americans at an Alaskan base trying to stop a Thing
>>>> from Another World from killing them. The movie as always holds up
>>>> great. It really helps to watch both movies back-to-back. I forgot
>>>> that they went to the Norwegian base and found the remains of various
>>>> deformed monsters that we get to see in action in the prequel.
>>>
>>> Did you look for my credit?
>>
>> I think I pulled the disc the second the credits hit.
>
>Gasp!
>
>If you've got the disk, check and see if it's got special features, and if
>it does, see if it still carries the documentary TERROR TAKES SHAPE. I did
>the light rays coming through the titles animation for the various
>segments. We originally did that for the laser disk and as we were doing it
>made sure it would work for some newfangled thing called DVD. They've
>maintained that stuff and our credits through the various releases
>including the Blu-rays all these decades which is really freaking amazing.
>
>>>> They Live (4K disc) John Carpenter's 1988 sci-fi action movie starring
>>>> Roddy Piper and Keith David as two guys down on their luck who discover
>>>> an alien conspiracy to take over the world. The movie holds up great.
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A couple of years ago I watched a bunch of John Carpenter movies in my
>>>> collection, then right after I watched them almost all of them got 4K
>>>> upgrades. I *hate* it when that happens! Anyway, I'm watching them
>>>> again this year for "Halloween," but I'm still struggling to decide if I
>>>> should watch the movies that didn't get a 4K upgrade or wait until they
>>>> eventually go 4K. Still on the fence as to which way to go.
>>>
>>> Tell us the titles so we can vote!
>>
>> On 4K and definitely being watched: The Thing, They Live, Escape From
>> New York, Escape From LA, Prince of Darkness, Halloween III (I thought I
>> had '78 in 4K, but I guess I don't).
>
> I finally watched season of the witch for the first time within the last
> year. Man, what a snoozer. I guess it's like they say, no shat, no show!

SEASON OF THE WITCH was OK, but that commercial lingo is quite an earworm!

>> On blu-ray and definitely being watched: "Halloween" and "John
>> Carpenter's Vampires."
>
> Did I dream it or did I see an ad last night for a final Halloween movie?

No, there's another final Halloween movie coming out this year.

--
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In article <thcbg4$1nkkh$1@dont-email.me>, arthur@alum.calberkeley.org wrote:
> On 10/1/2022 10:23 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2022 5:40 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>>>>> The Thing (4K disc) 1982 John Carpenter classic starring Kurt Russell
>>>>> and Keith David as Americans at an Alaskan base trying to stop a Thing
>>>>> from Another World from killing them. The movie as always holds up
>>>>> great. It really helps to watch both movies back-to-back. I forgot
>>>>> that they went to the Norwegian base and found the remains of various
>>>>> deformed monsters that we get to see in action in the prequel.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you look for my credit?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think I pulled the disc the second the credits hit.
>>
>> Gasp!
>>
>> If you've got the disk, check and see if it's got special features, and
>> if it does, see if it still carries the documentary TERROR TAKES SHAPE. I
>> did the light rays coming through the titles animation for the various
>> segments. We originally did that for the laser disk and as we were doing
>> it made sure it would work for some newfangled thing called DVD. They've
>> maintained that stuff and our credits through the various releases
>> including the Blu-rays all these decades which is really freaking amazing.
>
>On the 4K disc: "John Carpenter's The Thing: Terror Takes Shape (1080p, 4x3,
>1:23:53): A in-depth documentary with interviews with key cast and crew
>exploring the film from a number of perspectives. This supplement was also
>included on the 2018 Shout! Factory disc and does include some of the
>content from the U-Control PiP feature from the Blu-ray."
>
>https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Thing-4K-Blu-ray/272403/#Review
>
>I also have the Shout Factory blu-ray, but I don't think I've ever
>watched the documentary. I will often watch the Shout factory
>documentaries that they include on their discs since they tend to be
>very good. But odds are if I hit play and the documentary was 4x3 I
>probably turned it off. I didn't even notice it on the 4K disc since I
>was just quickly going from movie to movie and knew I had no time for
>extras.
>
>I went ahead and put the 4K disc in the player and checked the documentary.
>'Thing' Title Motion Graphics by Fred Kuentz

Oooh, a brush with fame! :-)

>>> On 4K and definitely being watched: The Thing, They Live, Escape From
>>> New York, Escape From LA, Prince of Darkness, Halloween III (I thought
>>> I had '78 in 4K, but I guess I don't).
>>
>> I finally watched season of the witch for the first time within the last
>> year. Man, what a snoozer. I guess it's like they say, no shat, no show!
>
>I was a baby when the first two Halloween movies came out so they meant
>nothing to me. But Halloween III was on network TV all the time when I
>was kid and I watched it over and over again. I *love* that movie!
>It's terrifying! I don't even really care for the original Carpenter
>movie. I'll watch them, but they're no Halloween III. That's probably
>why I couldn't be bothered to upgrade to 4K. But I was quick to snatch
>up Halloween III in 4K! :-)

I remember the original on first release but was too young to watch. As it
turns out, we watched it on the hotel HBO during a Xian retreat. I have no
recollection of then third being on TV, tho.

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atropos@mac.com wrote:

>I will never accept III as part of the HALLOWEEN canon. I don't know
>what that abomination of a movie is, but it's not a HALLOWEEN movie.
>They marketed it as a sequel to HALLOWEEN I & II, and off I went happily
>to the theater to see the latest round of teenagers die at the hand of
>Michael Myers and what did I get? A movie about a crazy old man trying
>to kill kids with Halloween masks.

If memory serves, they intended to make all the sequels different stories,
but the first two were so popular that they returned to Michael Meyers
stories.

--
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anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> "Ian J. Ball" <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:

>>> Thor: Love and Thunder (Disney+) - I found this to be quite odd. On the
>>> one hand, they really go to the wall on the "celebrity" casting - no
>>> only do the Guardians (sans Gamora) show up here (I love how Nebula
>>> seems to hate Thor!!) at the film's open, but they somehow managed to
>>> convince Christian Bale and Russell Crowe to show up in this too, and
>>> then get camoes from Matt Damon and Sam Neill! They even bring Jaimie
>>> Alexander back! (but Kat Dennings gets merely a cameo... :/ ).
>>> Also, they clearly were trying to recreate the humor of Thor:
>>> Ragnarok, but I'd say they generally miss the mark on that, though
>>> there are a few laugh-out-loud bits like the "screaming" goats
>>> I was surprised to see them announce "Thor will return" at the end -
>>> I guess Hemsworth must have signed a second contract with Marvel for
>>> more movies.
>>
>> Well, considering they've apparently turned "Thor" into a title now, not
>> a name, they could easily have a black, non-binary, gender-fluid, Jewish,
>> otherkin playing Thor next. Doesn't have to be Hemsworth.
>
>That ship sailed a long time ago. Like 40 years ago when Beta ray bill
>picked up the hammer and turned out to be worthy (it had never occurred to
>Odin that there could be more than one person that was worthy) and got the
>magic and the costume and left Thor standing there as Don Blake.
>
>Since the loophole was opened a lot of folk proved worthy. Pretty much any
>of Thors male ancestors (I always wanted to see his mom give it a try but I
>suppose technically she's not in the bloodline). The destroyer (hey, Odin
>is his father too).
>Steve Rogers (which I've never really understood why he's any more worthy
>than most of the avengers or the fantastic four).

It's one of those Mary Sue things I always hated about Captain America.

--
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Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2022 5:40 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>>>>> The Thing from Another World (TCM) 1951 sci-fi horror movie about a
>>>>> group of soldiers and scientists at an U.S. Air Force base in Alaska who
>>>>> discover a space "carrot" frozen in a crashed alien ship. The space
>>>>> carrot unfreezes and goes on a rampage. Since it's a space carrot
>>>>> bullets have no effect on it, but eventually they figure out how to kill
>>>>> it using electricity. I'm sure I must have watched this movie all the
>>>>> way through once before years ago but didn't remember it all that well.
>
> Was this the movie upon which Carpeenter's Thing movies were based?
>

Well, sort of. Carpenters thing goes back to the book which the 1951 movie
all but ignored.

>>>>> As an aside, I am familiar with Klaus Kinski from this, and a 1982
>>>>> sci-fi movie called "Android" that used to come on TV all the time when
>>>>> I was a kid. I haven't seen it since the early 80s and was very
>>>>> interested in watching it again. But I checked and it's not available
>>>>> to stream.
>>>>
>>>> Most of us are familiar with him because of his awesome daughter.
>
> I remember his song being used on Rush Limbaugh to introduce gay news.
>
>>> I recently picked up "Cat People" in 4K. I think technically I probably
>>> saw it once before but I have no real memory of it. If anything I'm not
>>> even sure I liked it that one time I might have watched it. But this
>>> was mostly a blind buy and giving it a second chance in 4K.
>>>
>>> Now that I think about it, I don't think I have "Cat People" on my movie
>>> watch list.
>>>
>>>>> The Thing (blu-ray) 2011 prequel to John Carpenter's 1982 classic.
>>>>> This movie tells the story of what happened to the Norwegian station
>>>>> that was already destroyed at the start of the Carpenter movie. This is
>>>>> actually a really good movie and syncs up great with the Carpenter
>>>>> version.
>>>>
>>>> I like this. Most people that love the 1982 film hate it. They’re always
>>>> screaming about how much worse the CGI effects look than the practical
>>>> effects in the carpenter version.
>>>
>>> I've watched the 2011 version multiple times, but last night was the
>>> first time I finally listened to the commentary. On the commentary they
>>> mentioned being in contact with Carpenter about making the movie. Not
>>> that he had any say, but just as a courtesy and to get his help so the
>>> movies aligned properly.
>>>
>>> They mentioned that when Carpenter made his version he had a year's
>>> worth of pre-production to get all the practical effects right. They
>>> had 3 months, which was better than usual. They said that's why a lot
>>> of modern movies are forced to use CGI because they simply don't have
>>> time to do things practical with the release schedules the studios force
>>> them to work under.
>>>
>>>>> The Thing (4K disc) 1982 John Carpenter classic starring Kurt Russell
>>>>> and Keith David as Americans at an Alaskan base trying to stop a Thing
>>>>> from Another World from killing them. The movie as always holds up
>>>>> great. It really helps to watch both movies back-to-back. I forgot
>>>>> that they went to the Norwegian base and found the remains of various
>>>>> deformed monsters that we get to see in action in the prequel.
>>>>
>>>> Did you look for my credit?
>>>
>>> I think I pulled the disc the second the credits hit.
>>
>> Gasp!
>>
>> If you've got the disk, check and see if it's got special features, and if
>> it does, see if it still carries the documentary TERROR TAKES SHAPE. I did
>> the light rays coming through the titles animation for the various
>> segments. We originally did that for the laser disk and as we were doing it
>> made sure it would work for some newfangled thing called DVD. They've
>> maintained that stuff and our credits through the various releases
>> including the Blu-rays all these decades which is really freaking amazing.
>>
>>>>> They Live (4K disc) John Carpenter's 1988 sci-fi action movie starring
>>>>> Roddy Piper and Keith David as two guys down on their luck who discover
>>>>> an alien conspiracy to take over the world. The movie holds up great.
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A couple of years ago I watched a bunch of John Carpenter movies in my
>>>>> collection, then right after I watched them almost all of them got 4K
>>>>> upgrades. I *hate* it when that happens! Anyway, I'm watching them
>>>>> again this year for "Halloween," but I'm still struggling to decide if I
>>>>> should watch the movies that didn't get a 4K upgrade or wait until they
>>>>> eventually go 4K. Still on the fence as to which way to go.
>>>>
>>>> Tell us the titles so we can vote!
>>>
>>> On 4K and definitely being watched: The Thing, They Live, Escape From
>>> New York, Escape From LA, Prince of Darkness, Halloween III (I thought I
>>> had '78 in 4K, but I guess I don't).
>>
>> I finally watched season of the witch for the first time within the last
>> year. Man, what a snoozer. I guess it's like they say, no shat, no show!
>
> SEASON OF THE WITCH was OK, but that commercial lingo is quite an earworm!
>
>>> On blu-ray and definitely being watched: "Halloween" and "John
>>> Carpenter's Vampires."
>>
>> Did I dream it or did I see an ad last night for a final Halloween movie?
>
> No, there's another final Halloween movie coming out this year.
>

Looks like it’s about a hermaphrodite.

> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>

--
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Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> "Ian J. Ball" <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>> Thor: Love and Thunder (Disney+) - I found this to be quite odd. On the
>>>> one hand, they really go to the wall on the "celebrity" casting - no
>>>> only do the Guardians (sans Gamora) show up here (I love how Nebula
>>>> seems to hate Thor!!) at the film's open, but they somehow managed to
>>>> convince Christian Bale and Russell Crowe to show up in this too, and
>>>> then get camoes from Matt Damon and Sam Neill! They even bring Jaimie
>>>> Alexander back! (but Kat Dennings gets merely a cameo... :/ ).
>>>> Also, they clearly were trying to recreate the humor of Thor:
>>>> Ragnarok, but I'd say they generally miss the mark on that, though
>>>> there are a few laugh-out-loud bits like the "screaming" goats
>>>> I was surprised to see them announce "Thor will return" at the end -
>>>> I guess Hemsworth must have signed a second contract with Marvel for
>>>> more movies.
>>>
>>> Well, considering they've apparently turned "Thor" into a title now, not
>>> a name, they could easily have a black, non-binary, gender-fluid, Jewish,
>>> otherkin playing Thor next. Doesn't have to be Hemsworth.
>>
>> That ship sailed a long time ago. Like 40 years ago when Beta ray bill
>> picked up the hammer and turned out to be worthy (it had never occurred to
>> Odin that there could be more than one person that was worthy) and got the
>> magic and the costume and left Thor standing there as Don Blake.
>>
>> Since the loophole was opened a lot of folk proved worthy. Pretty much any
>> of Thors male ancestors (I always wanted to see his mom give it a try but I
>> suppose technically she's not in the bloodline). The destroyer (hey, Odin
>> is his father too).
>> Steve Rogers (which I've never really understood why he's any more worthy
>> than most of the avengers or the fantastic four).
>
> It's one of those Mary Sue things I always hated about Captain America.
>

Could be.

> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>

--
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Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> In article <thcbg4$1nkkh$1@dont-email.me>, arthur@alum.calberkeley.org wrote:
>> On 10/1/2022 10:23 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>> On 10/1/2022 5:40 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>>>>>> The Thing (4K disc) 1982 John Carpenter classic starring Kurt Russell
>>>>>> and Keith David as Americans at an Alaskan base trying to stop a Thing
>>>>>> from Another World from killing them. The movie as always holds up
>>>>>> great. It really helps to watch both movies back-to-back. I forgot
>>>>>> that they went to the Norwegian base and found the remains of various
>>>>>> deformed monsters that we get to see in action in the prequel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you look for my credit?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think I pulled the disc the second the credits hit.
>>>
>>> Gasp!
>>>
>>> If you've got the disk, check and see if it's got special features, and
>>> if it does, see if it still carries the documentary TERROR TAKES SHAPE. I
>>> did the light rays coming through the titles animation for the various
>>> segments. We originally did that for the laser disk and as we were doing
>>> it made sure it would work for some newfangled thing called DVD. They've
>>> maintained that stuff and our credits through the various releases
>>> including the Blu-rays all these decades which is really freaking amazing.
>>
>> On the 4K disc: "John Carpenter's The Thing: Terror Takes Shape (1080p, 4x3,
>> 1:23:53): A in-depth documentary with interviews with key cast and crew
>> exploring the film from a number of perspectives. This supplement was also
>> included on the 2018 Shout! Factory disc and does include some of the
>> content from the U-Control PiP feature from the Blu-ray."
>>
>> https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Thing-4K-Blu-ray/272403/#Review
>>
>> I also have the Shout Factory blu-ray, but I don't think I've ever
>> watched the documentary. I will often watch the Shout factory
>> documentaries that they include on their discs since they tend to be
>> very good. But odds are if I hit play and the documentary was 4x3 I
>> probably turned it off. I didn't even notice it on the 4K disc since I
>> was just quickly going from movie to movie and knew I had no time for
>> extras.
>>
>> I went ahead and put the 4K disc in the player and checked the documentary.
>> 'Thing' Title Motion Graphics by Fred Kuentz
>
> Oooh, a brush with fame! :-)

I always tell them to credit the company name so people can find me if they
want me for future work. They always leave the company name off to make it
look like I’m an employee and they did it in house.

That was a grueling, time-consuming, arduous project back then. Now you’d
knock it out in an afternoon!

>
>>>> On 4K and definitely being watched: The Thing, They Live, Escape From
>>>> New York, Escape From LA, Prince of Darkness, Halloween III (I thought
>>>> I had '78 in 4K, but I guess I don't).
>>>
>>> I finally watched season of the witch for the first time within the last
>>> year. Man, what a snoozer. I guess it's like they say, no shat, no show!
>>
>> I was a baby when the first two Halloween movies came out so they meant
>> nothing to me. But Halloween III was on network TV all the time when I
>> was kid and I watched it over and over again. I *love* that movie!
>> It's terrifying! I don't even really care for the original Carpenter
>> movie. I'll watch them, but they're no Halloween III. That's probably
>> why I couldn't be bothered to upgrade to 4K. But I was quick to snatch
>> up Halloween III in 4K! :-)
>
> I remember the original on first release but was too young to watch. As it
> turns out, we watched it on the hotel HBO during a Xian retreat. I have no
> recollection of then third being on TV, tho.
>
> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>
>

--
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In article
<949751923.686510318.938089.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> > anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> >> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >>> "Ian J. Ball" <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >>>> Thor: Love and Thunder (Disney+) - I found this to be quite odd. On the
> >>>> one hand, they really go to the wall on the "celebrity" casting - no
> >>>> only do the Guardians (sans Gamora) show up here (I love how Nebula
> >>>> seems to hate Thor!!) at the film's open, but they somehow managed to
> >>>> convince Christian Bale and Russell Crowe to show up in this too, and
> >>>> then get camoes from Matt Damon and Sam Neill! They even bring Jaimie
> >>>> Alexander back! (but Kat Dennings gets merely a cameo... :/ ).
> >>>> Also, they clearly were trying to recreate the humor of Thor:
> >>>> Ragnarok, but I'd say they generally miss the mark on that, though
> >>>> there are a few laugh-out-loud bits like the "screaming" goats
> >>>> I was surprised to see them announce "Thor will return" at the end -
> >>>> I guess Hemsworth must have signed a second contract with Marvel for
> >>>> more movies.
> >>>
> >>> Well, considering they've apparently turned "Thor" into a title now, not
> >>> a name, they could easily have a black, non-binary, gender-fluid, Jewish,
> >>> otherkin playing Thor next. Doesn't have to be Hemsworth.
> >>
> >> That ship sailed a long time ago. Like 40 years ago when Beta ray bill
> >> picked up the hammer and turned out to be worthy (it had never occurred to
> >> Odin that there could be more than one person that was worthy) and got the
> >> magic and the costume and left Thor standing there as Don Blake.
> >>
> >> Since the loophole was opened a lot of folk proved worthy. Pretty much any
> >> of Thors male ancestors (I always wanted to see his mom give it a try but I
> >> suppose technically she's not in the bloodline). The destroyer (hey, Odin
> >> is his father too).
> >> Steve Rogers (which I've never really understood why he's any more worthy
> >> than most of the avengers or the fantastic four).
> >
> > It's one of those Mary Sue things I always hated about Captain America.
> >
>
> Could be.

FTR Wonder Woman can pick up the hammer.

A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
> In article
> <949751923.686510318.938089.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Ian J. Ball" <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Thor: Love and Thunder (Disney+) - I found this to be quite odd. On the
>>>>>> one hand, they really go to the wall on the "celebrity" casting - no
>>>>>> only do the Guardians (sans Gamora) show up here (I love how Nebula
>>>>>> seems to hate Thor!!) at the film's open, but they somehow managed to
>>>>>> convince Christian Bale and Russell Crowe to show up in this too, and
>>>>>> then get camoes from Matt Damon and Sam Neill! They even bring Jaimie
>>>>>> Alexander back! (but Kat Dennings gets merely a cameo... :/ ).
>>>>>> Also, they clearly were trying to recreate the humor of Thor:
>>>>>> Ragnarok, but I'd say they generally miss the mark on that, though
>>>>>> there are a few laugh-out-loud bits like the "screaming" goats
>>>>>> I was surprised to see them announce "Thor will return" at the end -
>>>>>> I guess Hemsworth must have signed a second contract with Marvel for
>>>>>> more movies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, considering they've apparently turned "Thor" into a title now, not
>>>>> a name, they could easily have a black, non-binary, gender-fluid, Jewish,
>>>>> otherkin playing Thor next. Doesn't have to be Hemsworth.
>>>>
>>>> That ship sailed a long time ago. Like 40 years ago when Beta ray bill
>>>> picked up the hammer and turned out to be worthy (it had never occurred to
>>>> Odin that there could be more than one person that was worthy) and got the
>>>> magic and the costume and left Thor standing there as Don Blake.
>>>>
>>>> Since the loophole was opened a lot of folk proved worthy. Pretty much any
>>>> of Thors male ancestors (I always wanted to see his mom give it a try but I
>>>> suppose technically she's not in the bloodline). The destroyer (hey, Odin
>>>> is his father too).
>>>> Steve Rogers (which I've never really understood why he's any more worthy
>>>> than most of the avengers or the fantastic four).
>>>
>>> It's one of those Mary Sue things I always hated about Captain America.
>>>
>>
>> Could be.
>
>
> FTR Wonder Woman can pick up the hammer.
>

I mentioned her but I guess it got truncated:

“Not to mention Superman and Wonder Woman. Which makes you wonder what the
rules are. Presumably Diana is worthy because she’s willing to murder
people she thinks have it coming and Superman is worthy because he’s not
willing to kill anybody no matter what the cost.”

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anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> "Ian J. Ball" <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:

>>>>> Thor: Love and Thunder (Disney+) - I found this to be quite odd. On the
>>>>> one hand, they really go to the wall on the "celebrity" casting - no
>>>>> only do the Guardians (sans Gamora) show up here (I love how Nebula
>>>>> seems to hate Thor!!) at the film's open, but they somehow managed to
>>>>> convince Christian Bale and Russell Crowe to show up in this too, and
>>>>> then get camoes from Matt Damon and Sam Neill! They even bring Jaimie
>>>>> Alexander back! (but Kat Dennings gets merely a cameo... :/ ).
>>>>> Also, they clearly were trying to recreate the humor of Thor:
>>>>> Ragnarok, but I'd say they generally miss the mark on that, though
>>>>> there are a few laugh-out-loud bits like the "screaming" goats
>>>>> I was surprised to see them announce "Thor will return" at the end -
>>>>> I guess Hemsworth must have signed a second contract with Marvel for
>>>>> more movies.
>>>>
>>>> Well, considering they've apparently turned "Thor" into a title now, not
>>>> a name, they could easily have a black, non-binary, gender-fluid, Jewish,
>>>> otherkin playing Thor next. Doesn't have to be Hemsworth.
>>>
>>> That ship sailed a long time ago. Like 40 years ago when Beta ray bill
>>> picked up the hammer and turned out to be worthy (it had never occurred to
>>> Odin that there could be more than one person that was worthy) and got the
>>> magic and the costume and left Thor standing there as Don Blake.
>>>
>>> Since the loophole was opened a lot of folk proved worthy. Pretty much any
>>> of Thors male ancestors (I always wanted to see his mom give it a try but
>>> I suppose technically she's not in the bloodline). The destroyer (hey,
>>> Odin is his father too).
>>> Steve Rogers (which I've never really understood why he's any more worthy
>>> than most of the avengers or the fantastic four).
>>
>> It's one of those Mary Sue things I always hated about Captain America.
>
> Could be.

I remember a lot of it "WTF? No one ELSE has ever done THAT before!" moments
during the 1980's In fact, I remember when the Beyonder took a human form, it
was inspired by Captain America's perfect human body.

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Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Ian J. Ball" <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>>>> Thor: Love and Thunder (Disney+) - I found this to be quite odd. On the
>>>>>> one hand, they really go to the wall on the "celebrity" casting - no
>>>>>> only do the Guardians (sans Gamora) show up here (I love how Nebula
>>>>>> seems to hate Thor!!) at the film's open, but they somehow managed to
>>>>>> convince Christian Bale and Russell Crowe to show up in this too, and
>>>>>> then get camoes from Matt Damon and Sam Neill! They even bring Jaimie
>>>>>> Alexander back! (but Kat Dennings gets merely a cameo... :/ ).
>>>>>> Also, they clearly were trying to recreate the humor of Thor:
>>>>>> Ragnarok, but I'd say they generally miss the mark on that, though
>>>>>> there are a few laugh-out-loud bits like the "screaming" goats
>>>>>> I was surprised to see them announce "Thor will return" at the end -
>>>>>> I guess Hemsworth must have signed a second contract with Marvel for
>>>>>> more movies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, considering they've apparently turned "Thor" into a title now, not
>>>>> a name, they could easily have a black, non-binary, gender-fluid, Jewish,
>>>>> otherkin playing Thor next. Doesn't have to be Hemsworth.
>>>>
>>>> That ship sailed a long time ago. Like 40 years ago when Beta ray bill
>>>> picked up the hammer and turned out to be worthy (it had never occurred to
>>>> Odin that there could be more than one person that was worthy) and got the
>>>> magic and the costume and left Thor standing there as Don Blake.
>>>>
>>>> Since the loophole was opened a lot of folk proved worthy. Pretty much any
>>>> of Thors male ancestors (I always wanted to see his mom give it a try but
>>>> I suppose technically she's not in the bloodline). The destroyer (hey,
>>>> Odin is his father too).
>>>> Steve Rogers (which I've never really understood why he's any more worthy
>>>> than most of the avengers or the fantastic four).
>>>
>>> It's one of those Mary Sue things I always hated about Captain America.
>>
>> Could be.
>
> I remember a lot of it "WTF? No one ELSE has ever done THAT before!" moments
> during the 1980's In fact, I remember when the Beyonder took a human form, it
> was inspired by Captain America's perfect human body.

Ewww

>
> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>
>

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