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 by: Matt Faunce - Mon, 4 Jul 2022 00:10 UTC

Simone Weil started off her essay, Morality and Literature, with this
paragraph.

“Nothing is so beautiful and wonderful, nothing is so continually fresh and
surprising, so full of sweet and perpetual ecstasy, as the good. No desert
is so dreary, monotonous, and boring as evil. This is the truth about
authentic good and evil. With fictional good and evil it is the other way
round. Fictional good is boring and flat, while fictional evil is varied
and intriguing, attractive, profound, and full of charm.”

Her fifth and sixth paragraphs say,

“But it is not only in literature that fiction generates immorality. It
does it also in life itself. For the substance of our life is almost
exclusively composed of fiction. We fictionalize our future; and, unless we
are heroically devoted to truth, we fictionalize our past, refashioning it
to our taste. We do not study other people; we invent what they are
thinking, saying, and doing. Reality provides us with some raw material,
just as novelists often take a theme from a news item, but we envelop it in
a fog in which, as in all fiction, values are reversed, so that evil is
attractive and good is tedious. If reality administers a hard enough shock
to awaken us for an instant, by contact with a saint, for example, or by
falling into the world of destitution or crime, or some other such
experience, it is then and only then that we feel for a moment the horrible
monotony of evil and the unfathomable marvel of good. But we soon relapse
into the waking dream peopled by our fictions.

“There is something else which has the power to awaken us to the truth. It
is the works of writers of genius, or at least of those with genius of the
very first order and when it has reached its full maturity. They are
outside the realm of fiction and they release us from it. They give us, in
the guise of fiction, something equivalent to the actual density of the
real, that density which life offers us every day but which we are unable
to grasp because we are amusing ourselves with lies.“

I’ll follow this up with the whole essay.

--
Matt

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 by: Matt Faunce - Mon, 4 Jul 2022 01:39 UTC

Matt Faunce <mattfaunce@gmail.com> wrote:
> Simone Weil started off her essay, Morality and Literature, with this
> paragraph.
>
> “Nothing is so beautiful and wonderful, nothing is so continually fresh and
> surprising, so full of sweet and perpetual ecstasy, as the good. No desert
> is so dreary, monotonous, and boring as evil. This is the truth about
> authentic good and evil. With fictional good and evil it is the other way
> round. Fictional good is boring and flat, while fictional evil is varied
> and intriguing, attractive, profound, and full of charm.”
>
> Her fifth and sixth paragraphs say,
>
> “But it is not only in literature that fiction generates immorality. It
> does it also in life itself. For the substance of our life is almost
> exclusively composed of fiction. We fictionalize our future; and, unless we
> are heroically devoted to truth, we fictionalize our past, refashioning it
> to our taste. We do not study other people; we invent what they are
> thinking, saying, and doing. Reality provides us with some raw material,
> just as novelists often take a theme from a news item, but we envelop it in
> a fog in which, as in all fiction, values are reversed, so that evil is
> attractive and good is tedious. If reality administers a hard enough shock
> to awaken us for an instant, by contact with a saint, for example, or by
> falling into the world of destitution or crime, or some other such
> experience, it is then and only then that we feel for a moment the horrible
> monotony of evil and the unfathomable marvel of good. But we soon relapse
> into the waking dream peopled by our fictions.
>
> “There is something else which has the power to awaken us to the truth. It
> is the works of writers of genius, or at least of those with genius of the
> very first order and when it has reached its full maturity. They are
> outside the realm of fiction and they release us from it. They give us, in
> the guise of fiction, something equivalent to the actual density of the
> real, that density which life offers us every day but which we are unable
> to grasp because we are amusing ourselves with lies.“
>
> I’ll follow this up with the whole essay.
>

Morality and Literature, by Simone Weil

“Nothing is so beautiful and wonderful, nothing is so continually fresh and
surprising, so full of sweet and perpetual ecstasy, as the good. No desert
is so dreary, monotonous, and boring as evil. This is the truth about
authentic good and evil. With fictional good and evil it is the other way
round. Fictional good is boring and flat, while fictional evil is varied
and intriguing, attractive, profound, and full of charm.

“This is because there are necessities and impossibilities in reality which
do not obtain in fiction, any more than the law of gravity to which we are
subject controls what is represented in a picture. In the space that
separates heaven from earth things fall easily and indeed inevitably
whenever they are not supported; they never rise, or only a very little and
by painful contrivance. A man coming down a ladder, who misses a step and
falls, is either a sad or an uninteresting site, even the first time we see
it. But if a man were walking in the sky as though it were a ladder, going
up into the clouds and coming down again, he could do it every hour of
every day and we would never be tired of watching. It is the same with pure
good; for a necessity as strong as gravity condemns man to evil and forbid
him any good, or only with the narrowest limits and laboriously obtained
and soiled and adulterated with evil; except when the supernatural appears
on earth, which suspends the operation of terrestrial necessity. But if I
paint a picture of a man walking up into the air it has no interest. That
is a thing which is only interesting if it really happens. Unreality takes
away all value from the good.

“A man walking in the ordinary way is a sight of no interest, whereas men
wildly jumping and leaping about would intrigue me for a few minutes. But
if I notice that both the one and the others are going barefoot on red-hot
coals my reactions change. The jumping and leaping become frightful and
unbearable to watch and, at the same time, behind the horror, tedious and
monotonous, whereas my attention becomes passionately fixed upon the man
who is walking naturally. Thus it is that evil, so long as it is fictional,
acquires interest from the variety of forms it can assume, which then seem
to spring from pure fancy. But the necessity which is inseparable from
reality completely cancels this interest. The simplicity which makes the
fictional good something insipid and unable to hold the attention becomes,
in the real good, an unfathomable marvel.

“It seems, therefore, that immorality is inseparable from literature, which
chiefly consists of the fictional. It is quite wrong to reproach writers
for being immoral unless one reproaches them at the same time for being
writers, as there were people in the seventeenth century with the courage
to do so. Writers with pretensions to high morality are no less immoral
than the others, they are merely worse writers. In them as in the others,
whatever they do and in spite of themselves, good is tedious and evil is
more or less attractive. One might, therefore, on these grounds, condemn
the whole of literature en bloc. And why not? Writers and devoted readers
will cry out that immorality is not an aesthetic criterion. But they must
prove, as they have never done, that aesthetic criteria are the only ones
applicable to literature. Since readers are not a separate animal species
and since the people who read are the same ones who perform a great many
other functions, it is impossible for literature to be exempted from the
categories of good and evil to which all human activities are referred.
Every activity is related to good and evil twice over: by its performance
and by its principle. Thus a book may on the one hand be well or badly
written and on the other hand it may originate either from good or from
evil.

“But it is not only in literature that fiction generates immorality. It
does it also in life itself. For the substance of our life is almost
exclusively composed of fiction. We fictionalize our future; and, unless we
are heroically devoted to truth, we fictionalize our past, refashioning it
to our taste. We do not study other people; we invent what they are
thinking, saying, and doing. Reality provides us with some raw material,
just as novelists often take a theme from a news item, but we envelop it in
a fog in which, as in all fiction, values are reversed, so that evil is
attractive and good is tedious. If reality administers a hard enough shock
to awaken us for an instant, by contact with a saint, for example, or by
falling into the world of destitution or crime, or some other such
experience, it is then and only then that we feel for a moment the horrible
monotony of evil and the unfathomable marvel of good. But we soon relapse
into the waking dream peopled by our fictions.

“There is something else which has the power to awaken us to the truth. It
is the works of writers of genius, or at least of those with genius of the
very first order and when it has reached its full maturity. They are
outside the realm of fiction and they release us from it. They give us, in
the guise of fiction, something equivalent to the actual density of the
real, that density which life offers us every day but which we are unable
to grasp because we are amusing ourselves with lies.

“Although the works of these men are made out of words there is present in
them the force of gravity which governs our souls. It is present and
manifest. In our souls, although this gravity is often felt, it is
disguised by the very effects it produces; submission to evil is always
accompanied by error and falsehood. The man falling down the slope of
cruelty or terror cannot discern what is the force that impels him nor the
relations between it and all other external conditions. In the words
assembled by genius several slopes are simultaneously visible and
perceptible, placed in their true relations, but the listener or reader
does not descend any of them. He feels gravity in the way we feel it when
we look over a precipice, if we are safe and not subject to vertigo. He
perceives the unity and diversity of its forms in this architecture of the
abyss. It is in this way that in the Iliad the slope of victory and the
slope of defeat are manifest and simultaneously perceptible, as they never
are for the soldier occupied in fighting. This sense of gravity, which only
genius can can impart, is found in the drama of Aeschylus and Sophocles, in
certain plays of Shakespeare, in Racine’s Phèdre alone among French
tragedies, and several comedies of Molière, and the Grand Testament of
Villon. There, good and evil appear in their truth. Those poets had genius,
and it was a genius oriented toward the good. There are also demoniacal
geniuses; and they too have their maturity. But since the maturity of
genius is conformity to the true relations of good and evil, the work which
represents maturity of demoniacal genius is silence. Rimbaud is it’s
example and symbol.


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 by: Matt Faunce - Mon, 4 Jul 2022 01:58 UTC

Matt Faunce <mattfaunce@gmail.com> wrote:
> Matt Faunce <mattfaunce@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Simone Weil started off her essay, Morality and Literature, with this
>> paragraph.
>>
>> “Nothing is so beautiful and wonderful, nothing is so continually fresh and
>> surprising, so full of sweet and perpetual ecstasy, as the good. No desert
>> is so dreary, monotonous, and boring as evil. This is the truth about
>> authentic good and evil. With fictional good and evil it is the other way
>> round. Fictional good is boring and flat, while fictional evil is varied
>> and intriguing, attractive, profound, and full of charm.”
>>
>> Her fifth and sixth paragraphs say,
>>
>> “But it is not only in literature that fiction generates immorality. It
>> does it also in life itself. For the substance of our life is almost
>> exclusively composed of fiction. We fictionalize our future; and, unless we
>> are heroically devoted to truth, we fictionalize our past, refashioning it
>> to our taste. We do not study other people; we invent what they are
>> thinking, saying, and doing. Reality provides us with some raw material,
>> just as novelists often take a theme from a news item, but we envelop it in
>> a fog in which, as in all fiction, values are reversed, so that evil is
>> attractive and good is tedious. If reality administers a hard enough shock
>> to awaken us for an instant, by contact with a saint, for example, or by
>> falling into the world of destitution or crime, or some other such
>> experience, it is then and only then that we feel for a moment the horrible
>> monotony of evil and the unfathomable marvel of good. But we soon relapse
>> into the waking dream peopled by our fictions.
>>
>> “There is something else which has the power to awaken us to the truth. It
>> is the works of writers of genius, or at least of those with genius of the
>> very first order and when it has reached its full maturity. They are
>> outside the realm of fiction and they release us from it. They give us, in
>> the guise of fiction, something equivalent to the actual density of the
>> real, that density which life offers us every day but which we are unable
>> to grasp because we are amusing ourselves with lies.“
>>
>> I’ll follow this up with the whole essay.
>>
>
> Morality and Literature, by Simone Weil
>
> “Nothing is so beautiful and wonderful, nothing is so continually fresh and
> surprising, so full of sweet and perpetual ecstasy, as the good. No desert
> is so dreary, monotonous, and boring as evil. This is the truth about
> authentic good and evil. With fictional good and evil it is the other way
> round. Fictional good is boring and flat, while fictional evil is varied
> and intriguing, attractive, profound, and full of charm.
>
> “This is because there are necessities and impossibilities in reality which
> do not obtain in fiction, any more than the law of gravity to which we are
> subject controls what is represented in a picture. In the space that
> separates heaven from earth things fall easily and indeed inevitably
> whenever they are not supported; they never rise, or only a very little and
> by painful contrivance. A man coming down a ladder, who misses a step and
> falls, is either a sad or an uninteresting site, even the first time we see
> it. But if a man were walking in the sky as though it were a ladder, going
> up into the clouds and coming down again, he could do it every hour of
> every day and we would never be tired of watching. It is the same with pure
> good; for a necessity as strong as gravity condemns man to evil and forbid
> him any good, or only with the narrowest limits and laboriously obtained
> and soiled and adulterated with evil; except when the supernatural appears
> on earth, which suspends the operation of terrestrial necessity. But if I
> paint a picture of a man walking up into the air it has no interest. That
> is a thing which is only interesting if it really happens. Unreality takes
> away all value from the good.
>
> “A man walking in the ordinary way is a sight of no interest, whereas men
> wildly jumping and leaping about would intrigue me for a few minutes. But
> if I notice that both the one and the others are going barefoot on red-hot
> coals my reactions change. The jumping and leaping become frightful and
> unbearable to watch and, at the same time, behind the horror, tedious and
> monotonous, whereas my attention becomes passionately fixed upon the man
> who is walking naturally. Thus it is that evil, so long as it is fictional,
> acquires interest from the variety of forms it can assume, which then seem
> to spring from pure fancy. But the necessity which is inseparable from
> reality completely cancels this interest. The simplicity which makes the
> fictional good something insipid and unable to hold the attention becomes,
> in the real good, an unfathomable marvel.
>
> “It seems, therefore, that immorality is inseparable from literature, which
> chiefly consists of the fictional. It is quite wrong to reproach writers
> for being immoral unless one reproaches them at the same time for being
> writers, as there were people in the seventeenth century with the courage
> to do so. Writers with pretensions to high morality are no less immoral
> than the others, they are merely worse writers. In them as in the others,
> whatever they do and in spite of themselves, good is tedious and evil is
> more or less attractive. One might, therefore, on these grounds, condemn
> the whole of literature en bloc. And why not? Writers and devoted readers
> will cry out that immorality is not an aesthetic criterion. But they must
> prove, as they have never done, that aesthetic criteria are the only ones
> applicable to literature. Since readers are not a separate animal species
> and since the people who read are the same ones who perform a great many
> other functions, it is impossible for literature to be exempted from the
> categories of good and evil to which all human activities are referred.
> Every activity is related to good and evil twice over: by its performance
> and by its principle. Thus a book may on the one hand be well or badly
> written and on the other hand it may originate either from good or from
> evil.
>
> “But it is not only in literature that fiction generates immorality. It
> does it also in life itself. For the substance of our life is almost
> exclusively composed of fiction. We fictionalize our future; and, unless we
> are heroically devoted to truth, we fictionalize our past, refashioning it
> to our taste. We do not study other people; we invent what they are
> thinking, saying, and doing. Reality provides us with some raw material,
> just as novelists often take a theme from a news item, but we envelop it in
> a fog in which, as in all fiction, values are reversed, so that evil is
> attractive and good is tedious. If reality administers a hard enough shock
> to awaken us for an instant, by contact with a saint, for example, or by
> falling into the world of destitution or crime, or some other such
> experience, it is then and only then that we feel for a moment the horrible
> monotony of evil and the unfathomable marvel of good. But we soon relapse
> into the waking dream peopled by our fictions.
>
> “There is something else which has the power to awaken us to the truth. It
> is the works of writers of genius, or at least of those with genius of the
> very first order and when it has reached its full maturity. They are
> outside the realm of fiction and they release us from it. They give us, in
> the guise of fiction, something equivalent to the actual density of the
> real, that density which life offers us every day but which we are unable
> to grasp because we are amusing ourselves with lies.
>
> “Although the works of these men are made out of words there is present in
> them the force of gravity which governs our souls. It is present and
> manifest. In our souls, although this gravity is often felt, it is
> disguised by the very effects it produces; submission to evil is always
> accompanied by error and falsehood. The man falling down the slope of
> cruelty or terror cannot discern what is the force that impels him nor the
> relations between it and all other external conditions. In the words
> assembled by genius several slopes are simultaneously visible and
> perceptible, placed in their true relations, but the listener or reader
> does not descend any of them. He feels gravity in the way we feel it when
> we look over a precipice, if we are safe and not subject to vertigo. He
> perceives the unity and diversity of its forms in this architecture of the
> abyss. It is in this way that in the Iliad the slope of victory and the
> slope of defeat are manifest and simultaneously perceptible, as they never
> are for the soldier occupied in fighting. This sense of gravity, which only
> genius can can impart, is found in the drama of Aeschylus and Sophocles, in
> certain plays of Shakespeare, in Racine’s Phèdre alone among French
> tragedies, and several comedies of Molière, and the Grand Testament of
> Villon. There, good and evil appear in their truth. Those poets had genius,
> and it was a genius oriented toward the good. There are also demoniacal
> geniuses; and they too have their maturity. But since the maturity of
> genius is conformity to the true relations of good and evil, the work which
> represents maturity of demoniacal genius is silence. Rimbaud is it’s
> example and symbol.
>
> “The sole raison d’être of all those writers who are not possessed by a
> genius of the very highest order in its full maturity is to constitute the
> milieu within which such a genius will one day appear. It is this function
> alone that justifies their existence, which ought otherwise to be prevented
> because of the immorality to which the nature of things condemns them. To
> reproach a writer for his immorality is to reproach him for having no
> genius, or only genius of the second order, if such an expression makes
> sense, or a still undeveloped genius. If he lacks genius it is not his
> fault, in a sense; but in another sense it is his one crime. It is
> completely vain to seek a remedy for the immorality of literature. The only
> remedy is genius, and the source of genius is beyond the scope of our
> efforts.
>
> “But what can and ought to be corrected, in view of this very fact of
> irremediable immorality, is the usurpation by writers of the function of
> spiritual guidance, for which they are totally unsuited. Only writers of
> the highest order of genius in their full maturity are fit to exercise
> those functions. As for all the other writers, unless they have a
> philosophical bent in addition to a literary one, which is rare, their
> conceptions about life and the world and their opinions on current problems
> can have no interest at all, and it is absurd that they should be called
> upon to express them. This abuse dates from the eighteenth century, and
> especially from romanticism, and it has introduced into literature a
> Messianic afflatus wholly detrimental to its artistic purity. Formerly,
> writers were domestics in great men’s households, and although this
> position sometimes caused very painful situations it was much more
> favourable than the Messianic delusion, not only to the moral health of
> writers and public, but also to the art of literature itself.
>
> “It is only within the last fifty or twenty-five years that we have seen
> the greatest possible effects of this usurpation, because it is only since
> then that it has extended to the masses. No doubt there has always been a
> slight diffusion of bad literature, oral or written, among the people. But
> formerly it had an antidote in the things of pure beauty which impregnated
> popular life-religious ceremonies, prayer, song, story, and dance. And
> above all, it was without authority. But during the last quarter of a
> century all the authority associated with the functions of spiritual
> guidance, usurped by men of letters, has seeped down into the lowest
> publications. Because from these publications up to the highest literary
> production there was continuity, and the public knew it. In the one milieu
> of literary men, in which no one ever refused to shake anyone else’s hand,
> were to be found those who occupied themselves exclusively with the lowest
> publications, and their occasional collaborators, and also our greatest
> names. Between a poem by Valéry and an advertisement for a beauty cream
> promising a rich marriage to anyone who used it there was at no point a
> breach of continuity. So as a result of literature’s spiritual usurpation a
> beauty cream advertisement possessed, in the eyes of little village girls,
> the authority that was formally attached to the words of priests. Is it
> surprising that we should have sunk to where we are now? To have permitted
> that state of affairs is a crime for which all who can hold a pen should
> bear the responsibility as a remorse.
>
> “For centuries the function of director of conscience has been exclusively
> in the hands of priests. They often performed it atrociously badly, as
> witness the fires of the Inquisition, but at least they had some title to
> it. In reality it is only the greatest saints who can perform it, as it is
> only the greatest geniuses among writers. But all priests, in virtue of
> their profession, speak in the name of the saints and look to them for
> inspiration and try to imitate and follow them, and principally the one
> veritable saint, who is Christ. Or if they do not, as in fact often
> happens, they are failing in their duty. But in so far as they do it they
> are able to communicate more good than they themselves possess. A writer,
> on the other hand, has only himself to fall back on; he may be influenced
> by a number of other writers, but he cannot draw his inspiration from them.
>
> “When, as a result of what was called the Enlightenment in the eighteenth
> century, the priests had in fact almost entirely lost this function of
> guidance, their place was taken by writers and scientists. In both cases it
> is equally absurd. Mathematics, physics, and biology are as remote from
> spiritual guidance as the art of arranging words. When that function is
> usurped by literature and science it proves that there is no longer any
> spiritual life. Numerous signs today seem to indicate that this usurpation
> by writers and scientist has come to an end, although the appearance of it
> still lingers. This should be a matter for rejoicing, were there not reason
> to fear that they will be replaced by something much worse than themselves.
>
>
> “But the works of authentic genius from the past ages remain, and are
> available to us. Their contemplation is the ever-flowing source of an
> inspiration which may legitimately guide us. For this inspiration, if we
> know how to receive it, tends—as Plato said—to make us grow wings to
> overcome gravity.”
>
>
>


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