"Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
> news:80ac69b1-00ad-4a5d-ab05-5e52edc3acfa@googlegroups.com...

> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012
>> Published on Mar 31, 2014
>>
>> https://issuu.com/willdockery/docs/042012playgroundsall
>>
>> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012 issue.

>> Page 18: To The Magic Store, column by Will Dockery
>> Page 18 "She Came From Overseas", poem by Will Dockery
>> Page 9: Hogbottom poster

>
> Wrapped fish.

Like I said, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies every month for
almost twenty years, Pendragon.

You can't top my achievement, nor can anyone else here on the poetry group.

Thus, your jealousy is unbecoming.

HTH and HAND.

On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 11:50:20 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
> > news:80ac69b1-00ad-4a5d...@googlegroups.com...
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012
> >> Published on Mar 31, 2014
> >>
> >> https://issuu.com/willdockery/docs/042012playgroundsall
> >>
> >> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012 issue.
>
> >> Page 18: To The Magic Store, column by Will Dockery
> >> Page 18 "She Came From Overseas", poem by Will Dockery
> >> Page 9: Hogbottom poster
>
> >
> > Wrapped fish.
> Like I said, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies every month for
> almost twenty years, Pendragon.
>
> You can't top my achievement, nor can anyone else here on the poetry group.
>
> Thus, your jealousy is unbecoming.
>
> HTH and HAND.

It was a free paper listing local restaurants, bars, and garage bands.

IOW: fish wrap.

Deal with it.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 11:50:20 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>> > news:80ac69b1-00ad-4a5d...@googlegroups.com...
>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> >> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012
>> >> Published on Mar 31, 2014
>> >>
>> >> https://issuu.com/willdockery/docs/042012playgroundsall
>> >>
>> >> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012 issue.
>>
>> >> Page 18: To The Magic Store, column by Will Dockery
>> >> Page 18 "She Came From Overseas", poem by Will Dockery
>> >> Page 9: Hogbottom poster
>>
>> >
>> > Wrapped fish.
>> Like I said, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies every month for
>> almost twenty years, Pendragon.
>>
>> You can't top my achievement, nor can anyone else here on the poetry group.
>>
>> Thus, your jealousy is unbecoming.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> It was a free paper listing local restaurants, bars, and garage bands.

Among other articles.

On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 1:20:16 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 11:50:20 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
> >> > news:80ac69b1-00ad-4a5d...@googlegroups.com...
> >> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012
> >> >> Published on Mar 31, 2014
> >> >>
> >> >> https://issuu.com/willdockery/docs/042012playgroundsall
> >> >>
> >> >> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012 issue.
> >>
> >> >> Page 18: To The Magic Store, column by Will Dockery
> >> >> Page 18 "She Came From Overseas", poem by Will Dockery
> >> >> Page 9: Hogbottom poster
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Wrapped fish.
> >> Like I said, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies every month for
> >> almost twenty years, Pendragon.
> >>
> >> You can't top my achievement, nor can anyone else here on the poetry group.
> >>
> >> Thus, your jealousy is unbecoming.
> >>
> >> HTH and HAND.
> > It was a free paper listing local restaurants, bars, and garage bands.
> Among other articles.

No kidding.

I've seen papers like that in every city I've ever visited.

The articles are filler for the ads.

The main reason anyone picks up a copy is to see what restaurant to go to for dinner, or to see what bands are at what bars, or which bars cater to their kind of crowd.

Getting published in a *literary journal* gets your writing before other writers, and people who read journals *specifically* for the poetry.

An indie journal that prints only 100 copies is more valuable to one as a writer, than having their work appear in local ad papers.

Normally I wouldn't dismiss the accomplishment of getting published in *any* publication; but your simultaneously arrogant and delusional boasts about it make it almost a necessity.

You claim that you're a fan of Robert Pinsky (I doubt that you've read any of his work, but let's pretend that you are).

I corresponded with Mr. Pinsky, and received his permission to publish excerpts from his translation of the "Inferno" in my "Bible of Hell." Not only is it an honor to have my work appear alongside of his in that collection, but there's a good chance that Mr. Pinsky has read some of my work as well..

""The Bible of Hell" was reviewed (positively) in "The Year's Best Fantasy and Horror," and, as editor-publisher-author, I was mentioned.

And "The Year's Best Fantasy and Horror" was a major publication which published stories and poems for the top authors in the horror and fantasy genres, so my name was potentially seen by writers like Stephen Kind and Ursula K. LeGuin (both of whom have been published in it).

I don't remember the exact numbers for "The Bible of Hell's" print run, but it was somewhere between 200 and 350 copies. That's a far cry from your ad paper's 10,000 copies, but those 200-350 copies accomplished a lot more than "Playgrounds" ever did.

And that was just one of my projects.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 1:20:16 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 11:50:20 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>> >> > news:80ac69b1-00ad-4a5d...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> > Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012
>> >> >> Published on Mar 31, 2014
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://issuu.com/willdockery/docs/042012playgroundsall
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012 issue.
>> >>
>> >> >> Page 18: To The Magic Store, column by Will Dockery
>> >> >> Page 18 "She Came From Overseas", poem by Will Dockery
>> >> >> Page 9: Hogbottom poster
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Wrapped fish.
>> >> Like I said, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies every month for
>> >> almost twenty years, Pendragon.
>> >>
>> >> You can't top my achievement, nor can anyone else here on the poetry group.
>> >>
>> >> Thus, your jealousy is unbecoming.
>> >>
>> >> HTH and HAND.
>> > It was a free paper listing local restaurants, bars, and garage bands.
>> Among other articles.

> No kidding.

> I've seen papers like that in every city I've ever visited.

> The articles are filler for the ads.

> The main reason anyone picks up a copy is to see what restaurant to go to for dinner, or to see what bands are at what bars, or which bars cater to their kind of crowd.

> Getting published in a *literary journal* gets your writing before other writers, and people who read journals *specifically* for the poetry.

> An indie journal that prints only 100 copies is more valuable to one as a writer, than having their work appear in local ad papers.

> Normally I wouldn't dismiss the accomplishment of getting published in *any* publication; but your simultaneously arrogant and delusional boasts about it make it almost a necessity.

> You claim that you're a fan of Robert Pinsky (I doubt that you've read any of his work, but let's pretend that you are).

> I corresponded with Mr. Pinsky, and received his permission to publish excerpts from his translation of the "Inferno" in my "Bible of Hell." Not only is it an honor to have my work appear alongside of his in that collection, but there's a good chance that Mr. Pinsky has read some of my work as well..

> ""The Bible of Hell" was reviewed (positively) in "The Year's Best Fantasy and Horror," and, as editor-publisher-author, I was mentioned.

> And "The Year's Best Fantasy and Horror" was a major publication which published stories and poems for the top authors in the horror and fantasy genres, so my name was potentially seen by writers like Stephen Kind and Ursula K. LeGuin (both of whom have been published in it).

> I don't remember the exact numbers for "The Bible of Hell's" print run, but it was somewhere between 200 and 350 copies. That's a far cry from your ad paper's 10,000 copies, but those 200-350 copies accomplished a lot more than "Playgrounds" ever did.

> And that was just one of my projects.

That's good, Pendragon, glad you were getting something done for all those years.

🙂

Michael Pendragon <michaelmaleficapendragon@gmail.com> wrote in
news:afe028f4-7ab7-47ca-998c-1c0737c7ba26n@googlegroups.com:

> On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 1:20:16 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 11:50:20 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery
>> > wrote:
>> >> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>> >> > news:80ac69b1-00ad-4a5d...@googlegroups.com...
>> >> > Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012
>> >> >> Published on Mar 31, 2014
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://issuu.com/willdockery/docs/042012playgroundsall
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012 issue.
>> >>
>> >> >> Page 18: To The Magic Store, column by Will Dockery
>> >> >> Page 18 "She Came From Overseas", poem by Will Dockery
>> >> >> Page 9: Hogbottom poster
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Wrapped fish.
>> >> Like I said, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000
>> >> copies e
> very month for
>> >> almost twenty years, Pendragon.
>> >>
>> >> You can't top my achievement, nor can anyone else here on the
>> >> poetry g
> roup.
>> >>
>> >> Thus, your jealousy is unbecoming.
>> >>
>> >> HTH and HAND.
>> > It was a free paper listing local restaurants, bars, and garage
>> > bands.
>> Among other articles.
>
> No kidding.
>
> I've seen papers like that in every city I've ever visited.

Better quality writing too. Hell, growing up I had the free local
*neighborhood* paper[1] about 5 minutes away. Want ads were cheap but
anyone could get a column or an article published in it if they wanted.

> The articles are filler for the ads.

Exactly. The whole point was businesses and ads to support it.
> The main reason anyone picks up a copy is to see what restaurant to go
> to for dinner, or to see what bands are at what bars, or which bars
> cater to their kind of crowd.

My local paper reported crimes, events and columns with pseudonyms of
actual newpaper writers.

> Getting published in a *literary journal* gets your writing before
> other writers, and people who read journals *specifically* for the
> poetry.
>
> An indie journal that prints only 100 copies is more valuable to one
> as a writer, than having their work appear in local ad papers.
>
> Normally I wouldn't dismiss the accomplishment of getting published in
> *any* publication; but your simultaneously arrogant and delusional
> boasts about it make it almost a necessity.
>
> You claim that you're a fan of Robert Pinsky (I doubt that you've read
> any of his work, but let's pretend that you are).
>
> I corresponded with Mr. Pinsky, and received his permission to publish
> excerpts from his translation of the "Inferno" in my "Bible of Hell."
> Not only is it an honor to have my work appear alongside of his in
> that collection, but there's a good chance that Mr. Pinsky has read
> some of my work as well.
>
> ""The Bible of Hell" was reviewed (positively) in "The Year's Best
> Fantasy and Horror," and, as editor-publisher-author, I was mentioned.
>
> And "The Year's Best Fantasy and Horror" was a major publication which
> published stories and poems for the top authors in the horror and
> fantasy genres, so my name was potentially seen by writers like
> Stephen Kind and Ursula K. LeGuin (both of whom have been published in
> it).
>
> I don't remember the exact numbers for "The Bible of Hell's" print
> run, but it was somewhere between 200 and 350 copies. That's a far
> cry from your ad paper's 10,000 copies, but those 200-350 copies
> accomplished a lot more than "Playgrounds" ever did.
>
> And that was just one of my projects.

But how many fish wrappers or bird cage liners were made of your works
compared to the blatherings of the Dreckweasel? You lose again!

You simply cannot compete on that level with such a talentless douchebag
and I expect that as a gentleman you'll concede that point in a
sportsmanlike and gracious manner.

[1] It was partially funded by the local Businessman's Association. As
the businesses fled the city or closed, so went the local paper. So I'm
betting the similar fate came to "Playgrounds".

Reposted for Cujo;

>>> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012
>>> Published on Mar 31, 2014
>>>
>>> https://issuu.com/willdockery/docs/042012playgroundsall
>>>
>>> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012 issue.

>>> Page 18: To The Magic Store, column by Will Dockery
>>> Page 18 "She Came From Overseas", poem by Will Dockery
>>> Page 9: Hogbottom poster

>>
>> Wrapped fish.

> Like I said, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies every month for
> almost twenty years, [Cujo]>

> You can't top my achievement, nor can anyone else here on the poetry group.

> Thus, your jealousy is unbecoming.

> HTH and HAND, Cujo.

🙂

Will Dockery wrote:

> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>> news:80ac69b1-00ad-4a5d-ab05-5e52edc3acfa@googlegroups.com...

>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012
>>> Published on Mar 31, 2014
>>>
>>> https://issuu.com/willdockery/docs/042012playgroundsall
>>>
>>> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012 issue.

>>> Page 18: To The Magic Store, column by Will Dockery
>>> Page 18 "She Came From Overseas", poem by Will Dockery
>>> Page 9: Hogbottom poster

>>
>> Wrapped fish.

> Like I said, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies every month for
> almost twenty years, Pendragon.

> You can't top my achievement, nor can anyone else here on the poetry group.

> Thus, your jealousy is unbecoming.

> HTH and HAND.

PG mag was a darn good read.... back in the day...

They also published my art on the cover 3-4 times....

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:58:58 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
> >> news:80ac69b1-00ad-4a5d...@googlegroups.com...
>
> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>
> >>> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012
> >>> Published on Mar 31, 2014
> >>>
> >>> https://issuu.com/willdockery/docs/042012playgroundsall
> >>>
> >>> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012 issue.
>
> >>> Page 18: To The Magic Store, column by Will Dockery
> >>> Page 18 "She Came From Overseas", poem by Will Dockery
> >>> Page 9: Hogbottom poster
>
> >>
> >> Wrapped fish.
>
> > Like I said, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies every month for
> > almost twenty years, Pendragon.
>
> > You can't top my achievement, nor can anyone else here on the poetry group.
>
> > Thus, your jealousy is unbecoming.
>
> > HTH and HAND.
> PG mag was a darn good read.... back in the day...
>
> They also published my art on the cover 3-4 times....

Which fact alone explains your enthusiasm for said publication.

However, it appears to have been of no more consequence than Will's public television show... which also featured some of your artwork.

My artwork was featured in our local paper when I was a mere lad of nine years (or so). It won second place in a local contest (a $25 US savings bond).

Michael Pendragon
"Like sliding into the heart of darkness, man, hot and tight... and
bushy."
-- Will Dockery waxing literary on his experiences with "black pussy."

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:58:58 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
> >> news:80ac69b1-00ad-4a5d...@googlegroups.com...
>
> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>
> >>> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012
> >>> Published on Mar 31, 2014
> >>>
> >>> https://issuu.com/willdockery/docs/042012playgroundsall
> >>>
> >>> Playgrounds Magazine / April 2012 issue.
>
> >>> Page 18: To The Magic Store, column by Will Dockery
> >>> Page 18 "She Came From Overseas", poem by Will Dockery
> >>> Page 9: Hogbottom poster
>
> >>
> >> Wrapped fish.
>
> > Like I said, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies every month for
> > almost twenty years, Pendragon.
>
> > You can't top my achievement, nor can anyone else here on the poetry group.
>
> > Thus, your jealousy is unbecoming.
>
> > HTH and HAND.
> PG mag was a darn good read.... back in the day...
>
> They also published my art on the cover 3-4 times....

Playgrounds Magazine boosted many local artists over the years.