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* Time capsule openingKeith F. Lynch
+* Re: Time capsule openingGary McGath
|`* Re: Time capsule openingDorothy J Heydt
| `* Re: Time capsule openingKeith F. Lynch
|  `* Re: Time capsule openingTim Merrigan
|   +- Re: Time capsule openingKeith F. Lynch
|   `- Re: Time capsule openingScott Dorsey
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Subject: Time capsule opening
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 by: Keith F. Lynch - Wed, 29 Dec 2021 03:57 UTC

Today, an 1887 time capsule buried under the recently removed Robert
E. Lee statue in Richmond, Virginia was opened, after having been
discovered yesterday. I watched its opening at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0srjd5R7zWY
--
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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 by: Gary McGath - Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:26 UTC

On 12/28/21 10:57 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
> Today, an 1887 time capsule buried under the recently removed Robert
> E. Lee statue in Richmond, Virginia was opened, after having been
> discovered yesterday. I watched its opening at
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0srjd5R7zWY

Earlier news stories mentioned concerns that water may have gotten into
the capsule and damaged the contents. Was there an update on that?

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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From: djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Wed, 29 Dec 2021 17:12 UTC

In article <sqhr6v$qlb$1@dont-email.me>,
Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
>On 12/28/21 10:57 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>> Today, an 1887 time capsule buried under the recently removed Robert
>> E. Lee statue in Richmond, Virginia was opened, after having been
>> discovered yesterday. I watched its opening at
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0srjd5R7zWY
>
>Earlier news stories mentioned concerns that water may have gotten into
>the capsule and damaged the contents. Was there an update on that?

Yes, there were several books inside, severely water-damaged.

A second capsule was found later, damp but "not soup."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-59814162

Still no photograph of Lincoln in his coffin.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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From: kfl...@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch)
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Subject: Re: Time capsule opening
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 by: Keith F. Lynch - Wed, 29 Dec 2021 21:41 UTC

Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
>> Earlier news stories mentioned concerns that water may have gotten
>> into the capsule and damaged the contents. Was there an update
>> on that?

> Yes, there were several books inside, severely water-damaged.

> A second capsule was found later, damp but "not soup."

> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-59814162

I was speaking only of the second, much larger, box. It was the
official and authorized one. The first box seems to have been snuck
in by the builders.

> Still no photograph of Lincoln in his coffin.

There was a woodcut showing Lincoln's closed coffin, a clipping from
Harper's magazine (which is still being published).

Interestingly, there was an advertising flyer with a telephone number.
No website, though.

1887 wasn't really all that long ago. I've met people who were alive
then. I've been alive for almost half the time since then. My
wrongful conviction is almost a third of the way back to then.

How can water be kept out of a time capsule? (Other than burying
it in a desert or launching it into space.)

A guy in the local ham radio club claims that he's a retired CIA
agent, and that he recently dug up a spy radio that had been buried in
East Germany more than 70 years ago in a plastic Halliburton box, and
that the radio worked perfectly right out of the box.
--
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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 by: Charles Packer - Wed, 29 Dec 2021 22:05 UTC

On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 03:57:23 +0000, Keith F. Lynch wrote:

> Today, an 1887 time capsule buried under the recently removed Robert E.
> Lee statue in Richmond, Virginia was opened, after having been
> discovered yesterday. I watched its opening at
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0srjd5R7zWY

When the fat lady stopped singing and the camera finally was pointed
at the box, said box was looking improbably shiny.

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 by: Tim Merrigan - Wed, 29 Dec 2021 22:27 UTC

On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 21:41:25 -0000 (UTC), "Keith F. Lynch"
<kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:

>How can water be kept out of a time capsule? (Other than burying
>it in a desert or launching it into space.)

One could weld, or, possibly, in this case, braze, or even solder it
shut, and if one wants to be double sure, encase the whole thing in
cosmoline, then hope the case itself doesn't corrode (rust) till water
leaks in.
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 by: Keith F. Lynch - Wed, 29 Dec 2021 22:53 UTC

Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>> How can water be kept out of a time capsule? (Other than burying
>> it in a desert or launching it into space.)

> One could weld, or, possibly, in this case, braze, or even solder it
> shut, and if one wants to be double sure, encase the whole thing in
> cosmoline, then hope the case itself doesn't corrode (rust) till
> water leaks in.

It was a copper box, and it appeared to have been brazed or soldered.
Probably soldered, given that the contents hadn't been burned up. It
had to be sawed open. So I don't know how water got into it, or how
the water had done so little damage. Maybe water only got in during
the recent statue base demolition?
--
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Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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 by: Scott Dorsey - Thu, 30 Dec 2021 14:26 UTC

Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 21:41:25 -0000 (UTC), "Keith F. Lynch"
><kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>
>>How can water be kept out of a time capsule? (Other than burying
>>it in a desert or launching it into space.)
>
>One could weld, or, possibly, in this case, braze, or even solder it
>shut, and if one wants to be double sure, encase the whole thing in
>cosmoline, then hope the case itself doesn't corrode (rust) till water
>leaks in.

Soldering was very common for small items. Some large ones were forged in
pieces and then welded together, like the Crypt of Civilization in Atlanta.
Many were filled with an inert atmosphere.

The Chambers Brothers explain time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIqwzQ7g-Cc
--scott

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