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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 04:58 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> > > >> >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
>> > > >> >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>> > > >> >> >> >> Who here can top that?
>> > > >> >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
>
>> > > >> >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> > And your column was read by
>> > > >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> And so it goes.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
>
>> > > >> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>> > >
>> > > > That's
>> > > A lot of readers, I know.
>> > A lot
>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.

> Thousands

Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.

And so it goes.

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On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 12:58:05 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> > > >> >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> >> > > >> >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >> > > >> >> >> >> Who here can top that?
> >> > > >> >> >> >>
> >> > > >> >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> >
> >> > > >> >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> >> > > >> >> >>
> >> > > >> >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> > And your column was read by
> >> > > >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> And so it goes.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> >
> >> > > >> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >> > >
> >> > > > That's
> >> > > A lot of readers, I know.
> >> > A lot
> >> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>
> > Thousands
> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.

You have no means of proving that anyone read your column, Donkey.

Most people who read local listings papers aren't interested in the articles -- they're looking for dinner.

Michael Pendragon
"Like sliding into the heart of darkness, man, hot and tight... and
bushy."
-- Will Dockery on his experiences with "black pussy."

> And so it goes.

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 by: W-Dockery - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 05:23 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> >> > > >> >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
>> >> > > >> >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>> >> > > >> >> >> >> Who here can top that?
>> >> > > >> >> >> >>
>> >> > > >> >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
>> >
>> >> > > >> >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
>> >> > > >> >> >>
>> >> > > >> >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
>> >> > > >> >>
>> >> > > >> >> > And your column was read by
>> >> > > >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>> >> > > >> >>
>> >> > > >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
>> >> > > >> >>
>> >> > > >> >> And so it goes.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
>> >
>> >> > > >> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > That's
>> >> > > A lot of readers, I know.
>> >> > A lot
>> >> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>>
>> > Thousands
>> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.

> You have no means of proving that anyone read your column

So, you can't argue that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 06:02 UTC

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 1:30:18 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Who here can top that?
> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>
> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> >> >
> >> >> > > >> >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> >> >> > > >> >> >>
> >> >> > > >> >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> >> >> > > >> >>
> >> >> > > >> >> > And your column was read by
> >> >> > > >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> >> >> > > >> >>
> >> >> > > >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> >> >> > > >> >>
> >> >> > > >> >> And so it goes.
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> >> >
> >> >> > > >> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > That's
> >> >> > > A lot of readers, I know.
> >> >> > A lot
> >> >> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> >>
> >> > Thousands
> >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
>
> > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> So, you can't argue that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.

Fish wrap.

Michael Pendragon
"Like sliding into the heart of darkness, man, hot and tight... and
bushy."
-- Will Dockery on his experiences with "black pussy."

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 by: W-Dockery - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 09:25 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
>> >> >> Fish wrap.
>
>> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
>
>> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>> >>> Who here can top that?
>
>> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
>
>> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
>
>> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
>
>>>>>>> And your column was read by
>
>> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>
>> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
>
>> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
>
>>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>
>>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>
>>> Thousands
>
>> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
>
> You have no means of proving that anyone read your column

I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.

You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.

And so it goes.

🙂

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 by: HC - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 13:27 UTC

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> >
> >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> >
> >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >> >>> Who here can top that?
> >
> >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> >
> >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> >
> >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> >
> >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> >
> >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> >
> >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> >
> >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> >
> >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >
> >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> >
> >>> Thousands
> >
> >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> >
> > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
>
> You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
>
> And so it goes.
>
>
> 🙂

I wrote poetry for a small group of hospitalized veterans for over thirty years,
BUT they have all passed away, SO the only people who read me anymore are
here, AND by “here” I mean in my presence, WHICH of course doesn’t include
you, ALTHOUGH I cannot prove that I am not alone right now, writing this for
someone other than you, SO it is perfectly reasonable for you to think that
this is a poem that was written specifically for you, WHEN in fact it wasn’t.

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On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> >
> >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> >
> >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >> >>> Who here can top that?
> >
> >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> >
> >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> >
> >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> >
> >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> >
> >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> >
> >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> >
> >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> >
> >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >
> >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> >
> >>> Thousands
> >
> >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> >
> > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
>
> You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.

Uh... that is not a fact, Donkey. You have no means of knowing whether you had "a few thousand readers" or only three.

I can say, speaking from experience, that I skip over the articles in local circulars when searching for a vegetarian-friendly restaurant.

> And so it goes.

And so it does... straight into the garbage.

Michael Pendragon
"and you know… that over the years, I HAVE come really
close to 'converting' to negrohood... remember in the early 1980s
when I hated white folks and all that?"
-- Will Dockery, on racism and "negrohood."

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On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 1:46:32 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
> > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> > >
> > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > >
> > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > >> >>> Who here can top that?
> > >
> > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > >
> > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > >
> > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > >
> > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> > >
> > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > >
> > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > >
> > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > >
> > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > >
> > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > >
> > >>> Thousands
> > >
> > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> > >
> > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
> >
> > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
> Uh... that is not a fact, Donkey. You have no means of knowing whether you had "a few thousand readers" or only three.
>
> I can say, speaking from experience, that I skip over the articles in local circulars when searching for a vegetarian-friendly restaurant.
>
> > And so it goes.
>
> And so it does... straight into the garbage.
> Michael Pendragon
> "and you know… that over the years, I HAVE come really
> close to 'converting' to negrohood... remember in the early 1980s
> when I hated white folks and all that?"
> -- Will Dockery, on racism and "negrohood."

If the man is intent on deluding himself that
he once had “a few thousand readers every
month” you will never convince him he didn’t.

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Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > Will Dockery wrote:
>> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
>> > >
>> > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
>> > >
>> > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>> > >> >>> Who here can top that?
>> > >
>> > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
>> > >
>> > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
>> > >
>> > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
>> > >
>> > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
>> > >
>> > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>> > >
>> > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
>> > >
>> > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
>> > >
>> > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>> > >
>> > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>> > >
>> > >>> Thousands
>> > >
>> > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
>> > >
>> > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
>> > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
>> >
>> > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
>> Uh... that is not a fact

I know at least hundreds of people who did read Playgrounds, every issue.

Here is an archive of several issues of Playgrounds, found of the Facebook page:

---

There's a good archive of the last few issues of Playgrounds Magazine there, scans of each page:

My "To The Magic Store" column, and one of my poems, from December 2014:
https://www.facebook.com/playgroundsmagazine/photos/a.895462147153998/895462827153930

My "To The Magic Store" column, and one of my poems, from January 2015:
https://www.facebook.com/playgroundsmagazine/photos/a.915652778468268/915653305134882

My "To The Magic Store" column, and one of my poems, from February 2015:
https://www.facebook.com/playgroundsmagazine/photos/a.929698260397053/929699180396961

My "To The Magic Store" column, and one of my poems, from March 2015:
https://www.facebook.com/playgroundsmagazine/photos/a.945550128811866/945550718811807

---

>> I can say, speaking from experience, that I skip over the articles

So what?

You don't speak for everyone, and certainly not readers interested in poetry, art, music, and so on.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 19:36 UTC

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:27:10 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> >> > >
> >> > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> >> > >
> >> > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >> > >> >>> Who here can top that?
> >> > >
> >> > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> >> > >
> >> > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> >> > >
> >> > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> >> > >
> >> > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> >> > >
> >> > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> >> > >
> >> > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> >> > >
> >> > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> >> > >
> >> > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >> > >
> >> > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> >> > >
> >> > >>> Thousands
> >> > >
> >> > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> >> > >
> >> > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> >> > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
> >> >
> >> > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
> >> Uh... that is not a fact
> I know at least hundreds of people who did read Playgrounds, every issue.

Doubtful -- and unsupported.

More likely, you showed your column to George Sulzbach, Dark Queen, and a few other close friends.

> Here is an archive of several issues of Playgrounds, found of the Facebook page:

And here is a spamsnip.

> >> I can say, speaking from experience, that I skip over the articles
> So what?
>
> You don't speak for everyone, and certainly not readers interested in poetry, art, music, and so on.

People interested in poetry, art and music buy journals/magazines about poetry, art and music.

People interested in finding dinner in a strange town, turn to the local circulars.

Michael Pendragon
"and you know… that over the years, I HAVE come really
close to 'converting' to negrohood... remember in the early 1980s
when I hated white folks and all that?"
-- Will Dockery, on racism and "negrohood."

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 by: Victor Hugo Fan - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 19:38 UTC

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> >
> >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> >
> >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >> >>> Who here can top that?
> >
> >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> >
> >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> >
> >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> >
> >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> >
> >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> >
> >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> >
> >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> >
> >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >
> >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> >
> >>> Thousands
> >
> >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> >
> > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
>
> You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
>
> And so it goes.
>
>
> 🙂

Yes indeed the PG mags were EVERYWHERE back in the day, they published my art of the cover several times as well...!

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On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:38:51 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
> > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> > >
> > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > >
> > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > >> >>> Who here can top that?
> > >
> > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > >
> > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > >
> > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > >
> > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> > >
> > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > >
> > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > >
> > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > >
> > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > >
> > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > >
> > >>> Thousands
> > >
> > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> > >
> > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
> >
> > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
> >
> > And so it goes.
> >
> >
> > 🙂
> Yes indeed the PG mags were EVERYWHERE back in the day, they published my art of the cover several times as well...!

10,000 copies a month, after all.

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 4 Aug 2022 15:08 UTC

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:38:51 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
> > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> > >
> > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > >
> > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > >> >>> Who here can top that?
> > >
> > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > >
> > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > >
> > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > >
> > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> > >
> > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > >
> > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > >
> > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > >
> > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > >
> > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > >
> > >>> Thousands
> > >
> > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> > >
> > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
> >
> > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
> >
> > And so it goes.
> >
> >
>
> Yes indeed the PG mags were EVERYWHERE back in the day, they published my art of the cover several times as well...!

Good times.

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On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 11:08:55 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:38:51 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > >> >>> Who here can top that?
> > > >
> > > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> > > >
> > > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > >
> > > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > > >
> > > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > >
> > > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > >
> > > >>> Thousands
> > > >
> > > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> > > >
> > > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> > > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
> > >
> > > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
> > >
> > > And so it goes.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Yes indeed the PG mags were EVERYWHERE back in the day, they published my art of the cover several times as well...!
> Good times.

Do you think casual observers will notice this?

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On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 2:21:25 PM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 1:46:32 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > >> >>> Who here can top that?
> > > >
> > > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> > > >
> > > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > >
> > > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > > >
> > > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > >
> > > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > >
> > > >>> Thousands
> > > >
> > > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> > > >
> > > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> > > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
> > >
> > > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
> > Uh... that is not a fact, Donkey. You have no means of knowing whether you had "a few thousand readers" or only three.
> >
> > I can say, speaking from experience, that I skip over the articles in local circulars when searching for a vegetarian-friendly restaurant.
> >
> > > And so it goes.
> >
> > And so it does... straight into the garbage.
> If the man is intent on deluding himself that
> he once had “a few thousand readers every
> month” you will never convince him he didn’t.

Dockery's favorite year has always been 1984.

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On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:38:51 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
> > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> > >
> > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > >
> > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > >> >>> Who here can top that?
> > >
> > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > >
> > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > >
> > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > >
> > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> > >
> > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > >
> > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > >
> > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > >
> > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > >
> > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > >
> > >>> Thousands
> > >
> > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> > >
> > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
> >
> > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
> >
> > And so it goes.
> >
> >
> > 🙂
> Yes indeed the PG mags were EVERYWHERE back in the day, they published my art of the cover several times as well...!

Yes, as I've said, the magazine was a great venue for artists and writers.

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 by: ME - Tue, 9 Aug 2022 04:54 UTC

On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 at 00:02:51 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:38:51 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > >> >>> Who here can top that?
> > > >
> > > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> > > >
> > > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > >
> > > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > > >
> > > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > > >
> > > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > >
> > > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > >
> > > >>> Thousands
> > > >
> > > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> > > >
> > > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> > > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
> > >
> > > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
> > >
> > > And so it goes.
> > >
> > >
> > > 🙂
> > Yes indeed the PG mags were EVERYWHERE back in the day, they published my art of the cover several times as well...!
> Yes, as I've said, the magazine was a great venue for artists and writers..

That’s just your opinion will

Just because ‘you said’ something’ doesn’t make it a fact or even close to the truth.
Do you actually think that the majority of us believe anything you post?
Not even you are that delusional.

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 9 Aug 2022 08:25 UTC

On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:54:23 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 at 00:02:51 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:38:51 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > > >> >>> Who here can top that?
> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > > > >
> > > > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> > > > >
> > > > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > > >
> > > > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > > > >
> > > > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > > >
> > > > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > > >
> > > > >>> Thousands
> > > > >
> > > > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> > > > >
> > > > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> > > > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
> > > >
> > > > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
> > > >
> > > > And so it goes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes indeed the PG mags were EVERYWHERE back in the day, they published my art of the cover several times as well...!
> > Yes, as I've said, the magazine was a great venue for artists and writers.
> That’s just your opinion will

Yes, it is.

🙂

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 by: Family Guy - Tue, 9 Aug 2022 22:53 UTC

On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:54:23 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 at 00:02:51 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:38:51 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > > >> >>> Who here can top that?
> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > > > >
> > > > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> > > > >
> > > > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > > >
> > > > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > > > >
> > > > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > > >
> > > > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > > >
> > > > >>> Thousands
> > > > >
> > > > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> > > > >
> > > > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> > > > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
> > > >
> > > > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
> > > >
> > > > And so it goes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 🙂
> > > Yes indeed the PG mags were EVERYWHERE back in the day, they published my art of the cover several times as well...!
> > Yes, as I've said, the magazine was a great venue for artists and writers.
> That’s just your opinion will
>
> Just because ‘you said’ something’ doesn’t make it a fact or even close to the truth.
> Do you actually think that the majority of us believe anything you post?
> Not even you are that delusional.

You forget to whom you responded.
I've marked about 20 of his threads as spam today.
I'm thinking of making this one number twenty-one.

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Family Guy wrote:

> On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:54:23 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 at 00:02:51 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:38:51 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>> > > > >> >>> Who here can top that?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
>> > > > >
>> > > > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >>> Thousands
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
>> > > > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
>> > > >
>> > > > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
>> > > >
>> > > > And so it goes.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 🙂
>> > > Yes indeed the PG mags were EVERYWHERE back in the day, they published my art of the cover several times as well...!
>> > Yes, as I've said, the magazine was a great venue for artists and writers.
>> That’s just your opinion will
>>
>> Just because ‘you said’ something’ doesn’t make it a fact or even close to the truth.
>> Do you actually think that the majority of us believe anything you post?
>> Not even you are that delusional.

> You forget to whom you responded.
> I've marked about 20 of his threads as spam today.
> I'm thinking of making this one number twenty-one.

Great, Dink, good riddance.

🙂

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 by: ME - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 16:51 UTC

On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 at 04:25:24 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:54:23 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 at 00:02:51 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:38:51 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > > > >> >>> Who here can top that?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>> Thousands
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> > > > > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
> > > > >
> > > > > And so it goes.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes indeed the PG mags were EVERYWHERE back in the day, they published my art of the cover several times as well...!
> > > Yes, as I've said, the magazine was a great venue for artists and writers.
> > That’s just your opinion will
> Yes, it is.
>

It’s only your opinion.
And your opinion doesn’t hold much weight with most of us here.

You are regarded as a loser by most of us here.
And you’ve figured out that most here have ‘bocked’ yours and your minions threads from view.

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 by: ME - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 17:05 UTC

On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 12:51:43 UTC-4, ME wrote:
> On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 at 04:25:24 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:54:23 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 at 00:02:51 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:38:51 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > > > > >> >>> Who here can top that?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> Thousands
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> > > > > > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And so it goes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes indeed the PG mags were EVERYWHERE back in the day, they published my art of the cover several times as well...!
> > > > Yes, as I've said, the magazine was a great venue for artists and writers.
> > > That’s just your opinion will
> > Yes, it is.
> >
> It’s only your opinion.
> And your opinion doesn’t hold much weight with most of us here.
>
> You are regarded as a loser by most of us here.
> And you’ve figured out that most here have ‘blocked” ’ yours and your minions threads from view.

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 by: HC - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 17:35 UTC

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 1:05:04 PM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 12:51:43 UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 at 04:25:24 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:54:23 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 at 00:02:51 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:38:51 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:45:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> >> Fish wrap.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >>> You wish. Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >>> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > > > > > >> >>> Who here can top that?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >>> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >>> I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >>> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> And your column was read by
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >>> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> Thousands
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You have no means of proving that anyone read your column
> > > > > > > I suppose not, but obviously I had a lot of readers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can't argue that with the fact that with 10,000 copies of my poetry and column available pretty much everywhere in town that I had a few thousand readers every month.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And so it goes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes indeed the PG mags were EVERYWHERE back in the day, they published my art of the cover several times as well...!
> > > > > Yes, as I've said, the magazine was a great venue for artists and writers.
> > > > That’s just your opinion will
> > > Yes, it is.
> > >
> > It’s only your opinion.
> > And your opinion doesn’t hold much weight with most of us here.
> >
> > You are regarded as a loser by most of us here.
> > And you’ve figured out that most here have ‘blocked” ’ yours and your minions threads from view.

It’s actually kind of funny.

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 by: General-Zod - Mon, 15 Aug 2022 20:41 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> > > >> >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
>>> > > >> >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>>> > > >> >> >> >> Who here can top that?
>>> > > >> >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
>>
>>> > > >> >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
>>> > > >> >>
>>> > > >> >> > And your column was read by
>>> > > >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>>> > > >> >>
>>> > > >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
>>> > > >> >>
>>> > > >> >> And so it goes.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
>>
>>> > > >> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>>> > >
>>> > > > That's
>>> > > A lot of readers, I know.
>>> > A lot
>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.

>> Thousands

> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.

> And so it goes.

yes, just do the math....

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 by: W-Dockery - Wed, 17 Aug 2022 05:30 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>>>
>>>> > > >> >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
>>>> > > >> >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>>>> > > >> >> >> >> Who here can top that?
>>>> > > >> >> >> >>
>>>> > > >> >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
>>>
>>>> > > >> >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
>>>> > > >> >> >>
>>>> > > >> >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
>>>> > > >> >>
>>>> > > >> >> > And your column was read by
>>>> > > >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>>>> > > >> >>
>>>> > > >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
>>>> > > >> >>
>>>> > > >> >> And so it goes.
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >> > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
>>>
>>>> > > >> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > That's
>>>> > > A lot of readers, I know.
>>>> > A lot
>>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.

>>> Thousands

>> Yes, more readers in one month than you've had in all your years as a small press zine self publisher, Pendragon.

>> And so it goes.

> yes, just do the math....

Exactly.

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