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 by: IYN - Mon, 25 Jul 2022 18:40 UTC

Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
There are only really bad quality ones left.
I've been wondering what is his current situation today?

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On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:41:01 AM UTC-10, IYN wrote:
> Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
> There are only really bad quality ones left.
> I've been wondering what is his current situation today?

https://extraterrestrials.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Case

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 by: Matt Faunce - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 18:52 UTC

dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:41:01 AM UTC-10, IYN wrote:
>> Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
>> There are only really bad quality ones left.
>> I've been wondering what is his current situation today?
>
> https://extraterrestrials.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Case
>

Isn’t it quite an extraordinary coincidence that space aliens have a human
shape to them rather than, for example, elephant, giraffe, or alligator
shape. It’s probably because elephants, giraffes, and alligators don’t have
their own CIA to plant such bullshit in their minds.

--
Matt

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 by: dsi1 - Sun, 14 Aug 2022 06:55 UTC

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 8:52:46 AM UTC-10, mattf...@gmail.com wrote:
> dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:41:01 AM UTC-10, IYN wrote:
> >> Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
> >> There are only really bad quality ones left.
> >> I've been wondering what is his current situation today?
> >
> > https://extraterrestrials.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Case
> >
> Isn’t it quite an extraordinary coincidence that space aliens have a human
> shape to them rather than, for example, elephant, giraffe, or alligator
> shape. It’s probably because elephants, giraffes, and alligators don’t have
> their own CIA to plant such bullshit in their minds.
>
> --
> Matt

Technologically advanced beings require a body that's able to manipulate their environment to a high degree. That requires body parts similar to hands or, I suppose, octopus-like tentacles. If you're saying that it is vanity that shapes aliens into forms that humans can relate to, I can't disagree. Of course, being technologically advanced is not important in nature. The most successful species on Earth are probably horseshoe crabs.
Of more importance, I think, is that fact that it wouldn't be in our interest to have aliens making contact. We all know what happens when an advanced civilization meets a primitive, less powerful, one. In the case of the Hawaiians, the newcomers killed off 90% of the population. Then they tried to wipe out the native culture and took over the Kingdom of Hawaii as their own. Then, Mark Zuckerberg came to the islands and kicked the Hawaiians off their land.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAiB2ZoRhM

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 by: Matt Faunce - Sun, 14 Aug 2022 16:44 UTC

dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 8:52:46 AM UTC-10, mattf...@gmail.com wrote:
>> dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:41:01 AM UTC-10, IYN wrote:
>>>> Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
>>>> There are only really bad quality ones left.
>>>> I've been wondering what is his current situation today?
>>>
>>> https://extraterrestrials.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Case
>>>
>> Isn’t it quite an extraordinary coincidence that space aliens have a human
>> shape to them rather than, for example, elephant, giraffe, or alligator
>> shape. It’s probably because elephants, giraffes, and alligators don’t have
>> their own CIA to plant such bullshit in their minds.
>>
>> --
>> Matt
>
> Technologically advanced beings require a body that's able to manipulate
> their environment to a high degree. That requires body parts similar to
> hands or, I suppose, octopus-like tentacles.
>

Advancement is more than mere technological advancement. There might be ESP
advancement, morphic-resonance advancement, or some sort of spiritual
advancement which allows the rising above it all.

> If you're saying that it is vanity that shapes aliens into forms that
> humans can relate to, I can't disagree.
>

In general, it’s anthropomorphism. Vanity certainly drives it to comical
extremes, but really, we can’t escape anthropomorphism: drawing analogies
to ourselves is how we think; it’s how we merely recognize things; it’s
impossible to conceive of something that has no analogy to ourselves. The
common meaning of ‘anthropomorphism’ is ‘analogous to the aspects of man
which even morons recognize.’ The intellectual’s goal is to understand
himself in more and more different ways, and thereby understand the world.

> Of course, being technologically advanced is not important in nature. The
> most successful species on Earth are probably horseshoe crabs.
>

Hmmm. But nature also evolves. Horseshoe crabs might have chosen, in a
Lamarkian way, or luckily happened upon, in a Darwinian way, or arrived at,
in both ways, a very stable form, but can it evolve? I’m convinced that
there will be a species of nature that will evolve, mentally and
physically, way beyond where humans are now, who will create a truly
beneficial new-world order. My money is on fungi.

> Of more importance, I think, is that fact that it wouldn't be in our
> interest to have aliens making contact. We all know what happens when an
> advanced civilization meets a primitive, less powerful, one.
>

Good point.
https://nypost.com/2019/04/25/mans-face-erupts-in-nasty-pustules-after-catching-deadly-fungal-infection/
Maybe evolved tardigrades will be more beneficent.

> In the case of the Hawaiians, the newcomers killed off 90% of the
> population. Then they tried to wipe out the native culture and took over
> the Kingdom of Hawaii as their own.
>

It’s a shame that peaceful co-existence and learning from different people
aren’t valued by powerful people. But, then again, I see so-called
“powerful people” like I see the Hoover Dam, and the weak masses are like
the gentle, trickling water of the Colorado River. My money is on the
Colorado River winning in the long run.

> Then, Mark Zuckerberg came to the islands and kicked the Hawaiians off their land.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAiB2ZoRhM
>

Ah ha. You went full circle back to a humanoid space alien. Good form.

--
Matt

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Subject: Re: Update from Dr. Jonathan Reed
From: dsi...@yahoo.com (dsi1)
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 by: dsi1 - Sun, 14 Aug 2022 20:05 UTC

On Sunday, August 14, 2022 at 6:44:50 AM UTC-10, mattf...@gmail.com wrote:
> dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 8:52:46 AM UTC-10, mattf...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:41:01 AM UTC-10, IYN wrote:
> >>>> Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
> >>>> There are only really bad quality ones left.
> >>>> I've been wondering what is his current situation today?
> >>>
> >>> https://extraterrestrials.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Case
> >>>
> >> Isn’t it quite an extraordinary coincidence that space aliens have a human
> >> shape to them rather than, for example, elephant, giraffe, or alligator
> >> shape. It’s probably because elephants, giraffes, and alligators don’t have
> >> their own CIA to plant such bullshit in their minds.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Matt
> >
> > Technologically advanced beings require a body that's able to manipulate
> > their environment to a high degree. That requires body parts similar to
> > hands or, I suppose, octopus-like tentacles.
> >
> Advancement is more than mere technological advancement. There might be ESP
> advancement, morphic-resonance advancement, or some sort of spiritual
> advancement which allows the rising above it all.
> > If you're saying that it is vanity that shapes aliens into forms that
> > humans can relate to, I can't disagree.
> >
> In general, it’s anthropomorphism. Vanity certainly drives it to comical
> extremes, but really, we can’t escape anthropomorphism: drawing analogies
> to ourselves is how we think; it’s how we merely recognize things; it’s
> impossible to conceive of something that has no analogy to ourselves. The
> common meaning of ‘anthropomorphism’ is ‘analogous to the aspects of man
> which even morons recognize.’ The intellectual’s goal is to understand
> himself in more and more different ways, and thereby understand the world..
> > Of course, being technologically advanced is not important in nature. The
> > most successful species on Earth are probably horseshoe crabs.
> >
> Hmmm. But nature also evolves. Horseshoe crabs might have chosen, in a
> Lamarkian way, or luckily happened upon, in a Darwinian way, or arrived at,
> in both ways, a very stable form, but can it evolve? I’m convinced that
> there will be a species of nature that will evolve, mentally and
> physically, way beyond where humans are now, who will create a truly
> beneficial new-world order. My money is on fungi.
> > Of more importance, I think, is that fact that it wouldn't be in our
> > interest to have aliens making contact. We all know what happens when an
> > advanced civilization meets a primitive, less powerful, one.
> >
> Good point.
> https://nypost.com/2019/04/25/mans-face-erupts-in-nasty-pustules-after-catching-deadly-fungal-infection/
> Maybe evolved tardigrades will be more beneficent.
> > In the case of the Hawaiians, the newcomers killed off 90% of the
> > population. Then they tried to wipe out the native culture and took over
> > the Kingdom of Hawaii as their own.
> >
> It’s a shame that peaceful co-existence and learning from different people
> aren’t valued by powerful people. But, then again, I see so-called
> “powerful people” like I see the Hoover Dam, and the weak masses are like
> the gentle, trickling water of the Colorado River. My money is on the
> Colorado River winning in the long run.
> > Then, Mark Zuckerberg came to the islands and kicked the Hawaiians off their land.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAiB2ZoRhM
> >
> Ah ha. You went full circle back to a humanoid space alien. Good form.
>
> --
> Matt

As we all know, the alien DNA code-duplication technology isn't perfect. That's about as close to human as they can get at the moment.

https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5d41c7688df537000832361b/4:3/w_2668,h_2001,c_limit/GettyImages-945005812.jpg

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 by: Steven Bornfeld - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 01:28 UTC

On 8/14/2022 4:05 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, August 14, 2022 at 6:44:50 AM UTC-10, mattf...@gmail.com wrote:
>> dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 8:52:46 AM UTC-10, mattf...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:41:01 AM UTC-10, IYN wrote:
>>>>>> Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
>>>>>> There are only really bad quality ones left.
>>>>>> I've been wondering what is his current situation today?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://extraterrestrials.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Case
>>>>>
>>>> Isn’t it quite an extraordinary coincidence that space aliens have a human
>>>> shape to them rather than, for example, elephant, giraffe, or alligator
>>>> shape. It’s probably because elephants, giraffes, and alligators don’t have
>>>> their own CIA to plant such bullshit in their minds.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Matt
>>>
>>> Technologically advanced beings require a body that's able to manipulate
>>> their environment to a high degree. That requires body parts similar to
>>> hands or, I suppose, octopus-like tentacles.
>>>
>> Advancement is more than mere technological advancement. There might be ESP
>> advancement, morphic-resonance advancement, or some sort of spiritual
>> advancement which allows the rising above it all.
>>> If you're saying that it is vanity that shapes aliens into forms that
>>> humans can relate to, I can't disagree.
>>>
>> In general, it’s anthropomorphism. Vanity certainly drives it to comical
>> extremes, but really, we can’t escape anthropomorphism: drawing analogies
>> to ourselves is how we think; it’s how we merely recognize things; it’s
>> impossible to conceive of something that has no analogy to ourselves. The
>> common meaning of ‘anthropomorphism’ is ‘analogous to the aspects of man
>> which even morons recognize.’ The intellectual’s goal is to understand
>> himself in more and more different ways, and thereby understand the world.
>>> Of course, being technologically advanced is not important in nature. The
>>> most successful species on Earth are probably horseshoe crabs.
>>>
>> Hmmm. But nature also evolves. Horseshoe crabs might have chosen, in a
>> Lamarkian way, or luckily happened upon, in a Darwinian way, or arrived at,
>> in both ways, a very stable form, but can it evolve? I’m convinced that
>> there will be a species of nature that will evolve, mentally and
>> physically, way beyond where humans are now, who will create a truly
>> beneficial new-world order. My money is on fungi.
>>> Of more importance, I think, is that fact that it wouldn't be in our
>>> interest to have aliens making contact. We all know what happens when an
>>> advanced civilization meets a primitive, less powerful, one.
>>>
>> Good point.
>> https://nypost.com/2019/04/25/mans-face-erupts-in-nasty-pustules-after-catching-deadly-fungal-infection/
>> Maybe evolved tardigrades will be more beneficent.
>>> In the case of the Hawaiians, the newcomers killed off 90% of the
>>> population. Then they tried to wipe out the native culture and took over
>>> the Kingdom of Hawaii as their own.
>>>
>> It’s a shame that peaceful co-existence and learning from different people
>> aren’t valued by powerful people. But, then again, I see so-called
>> “powerful people” like I see the Hoover Dam, and the weak masses are like
>> the gentle, trickling water of the Colorado River. My money is on the
>> Colorado River winning in the long run.
>>> Then, Mark Zuckerberg came to the islands and kicked the Hawaiians off their land.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAiB2ZoRhM
>>>
>> Ah ha. You went full circle back to a humanoid space alien. Good form.
>>
>> --
>> Matt
>
> As we all know, the alien DNA code-duplication technology isn't perfect. That's about as close to human as they can get at the moment.
>
> https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5d41c7688df537000832361b/4:3/w_2668,h_2001,c_limit/GettyImages-945005812.jpg

LOL!

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 by: dsi1 - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 10:15 UTC

On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 3:28:23 PM UTC-10, Steven Bornfeld wrote:
> On 8/14/2022 4:05 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 14, 2022 at 6:44:50 AM UTC-10, mattf...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 8:52:46 AM UTC-10, mattf...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:41:01 AM UTC-10, IYN wrote:
> >>>>>> Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
> >>>>>> There are only really bad quality ones left.
> >>>>>> I've been wondering what is his current situation today?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://extraterrestrials.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Case
> >>>>>
> >>>> Isn’t it quite an extraordinary coincidence that space aliens have a human
> >>>> shape to them rather than, for example, elephant, giraffe, or alligator
> >>>> shape. It’s probably because elephants, giraffes, and alligators don’t have
> >>>> their own CIA to plant such bullshit in their minds.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Matt
> >>>
> >>> Technologically advanced beings require a body that's able to manipulate
> >>> their environment to a high degree. That requires body parts similar to
> >>> hands or, I suppose, octopus-like tentacles.
> >>>
> >> Advancement is more than mere technological advancement. There might be ESP
> >> advancement, morphic-resonance advancement, or some sort of spiritual
> >> advancement which allows the rising above it all.
> >>> If you're saying that it is vanity that shapes aliens into forms that
> >>> humans can relate to, I can't disagree.
> >>>
> >> In general, it’s anthropomorphism. Vanity certainly drives it to comical
> >> extremes, but really, we can’t escape anthropomorphism: drawing analogies
> >> to ourselves is how we think; it’s how we merely recognize things; it’s
> >> impossible to conceive of something that has no analogy to ourselves. The
> >> common meaning of ‘anthropomorphism’ is ‘analogous to the aspects of man
> >> which even morons recognize.’ The intellectual’s goal is to understand
> >> himself in more and more different ways, and thereby understand the world.
> >>> Of course, being technologically advanced is not important in nature. The
> >>> most successful species on Earth are probably horseshoe crabs.
> >>>
> >> Hmmm. But nature also evolves. Horseshoe crabs might have chosen, in a
> >> Lamarkian way, or luckily happened upon, in a Darwinian way, or arrived at,
> >> in both ways, a very stable form, but can it evolve? I’m convinced that
> >> there will be a species of nature that will evolve, mentally and
> >> physically, way beyond where humans are now, who will create a truly
> >> beneficial new-world order. My money is on fungi.
> >>> Of more importance, I think, is that fact that it wouldn't be in our
> >>> interest to have aliens making contact. We all know what happens when an
> >>> advanced civilization meets a primitive, less powerful, one.
> >>>
> >> Good point.
> >> https://nypost.com/2019/04/25/mans-face-erupts-in-nasty-pustules-after-catching-deadly-fungal-infection/
> >> Maybe evolved tardigrades will be more beneficent.
> >>> In the case of the Hawaiians, the newcomers killed off 90% of the
> >>> population. Then they tried to wipe out the native culture and took over
> >>> the Kingdom of Hawaii as their own.
> >>>
> >> It’s a shame that peaceful co-existence and learning from different people
> >> aren’t valued by powerful people. But, then again, I see so-called
> >> “powerful people” like I see the Hoover Dam, and the weak masses are like
> >> the gentle, trickling water of the Colorado River. My money is on the
> >> Colorado River winning in the long run.
> >>> Then, Mark Zuckerberg came to the islands and kicked the Hawaiians off their land.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAiB2ZoRhM
> >>>
> >> Ah ha. You went full circle back to a humanoid space alien. Good form.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Matt
> >
> > As we all know, the alien DNA code-duplication technology isn't perfect.. That's about as close to human as they can get at the moment.
> >
> > https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5d41c7688df537000832361b/4:3/w_2668,h_2001,c_limit/GettyImages-945005812.jpg
> LOL!

It's not cool to make fun of a person's appearance but Mr. Z's been mistreating the Hawaiians by kicking them off their small patches of land so I got all the rights to make fun of his funny lookin' head. Forgive me, Jesus!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAiB2ZoRhM

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