On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 11:14:53 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 10:29:22 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 7:30:01 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous Corey wrote:
> > > On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 9:59:55 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 9:33:13 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The quote demonstrates your fascism.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bring me the definition of fascism.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure, here you go, Ash:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy ... fascism often manifests a belief in racial "purity" or a "master race", usually synthesized with some variant of racism or bigotry of a demonized other; the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forced deportations against a perceived other..."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nuking the Middle East has nothing to do with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is something the original fascists might have endorsed,as in:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're the proud fascist here, Pendragon.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fascism isn't necessarily about racial "purity," Will.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a form of government wherein the good of the State takes precedence over the individual:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "One of the most common and strongest criticisms of fascism is that it is a tyranny.[269] Fascism is deliberately and entirely non-democratic and anti-democratic..."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Fascist_aesthetics
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's right, Will. Fascism is not equal to democracy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you really need Wikipedia to tell you this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Usenet is fundamentally democratic. Every fascist and/or idiot has their say.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is why Usenet groups inevitable devolve into battlegrounds and habitats for trolls. Not because it is a democracy, but because too much leeway is given to the idiots.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a Usenet group is to work, there have to be rules within that group.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And for rules to have any meaning, there has to be some means of enforcing them.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since most of us prefer posting in a "safe" environment, having productive, intelligent, and friendly discussions with our peers, etc., the adoption of a set of rules can be seen as both a necessity and as a benefit to the group as a whole. This is how a democracy should work.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The rules should be malleable and subject to change as the membership changes, and or as the majority opinion sees fit.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democracy without enforced rules results in anarchy and chaos.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can’t enforce rules here. You can make guidelines.
> > > > > > > > > > > > True.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On the one hand, you can hope people think your guidelines
> > > > > > > > > > > > > make enough sense to want to follow them to everyone’s benefit.
> > > > > > > > > > > > In which case, the guidelines are enforced by the members.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, you can defecate. See which hand fills first.
> > > > > > > > > > > > That's a defeatist way of looking at things, Corey.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > If enough members were to join -- and to adopt the guidelines -- those who refuse to comply would quickly find themselves having been relegated to the role of fruit flies.
> > > > > > > > > > > Bzzzzzzzz
> > > > > > > > > > Oh, Corey, you've always been a fruit fly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Back to gay laming again, Pendragon?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "People who associate with lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people may be called fruit flies (along with fruit
> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > > > bats) regardless of their sex. Fruit fly can also refer to a gay man."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_(slang)#Fruit_fly
> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > > > > No, Will. A fruit fly is just
> > > > > > > See above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > > So what?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There's more than one connotation for a "fruit fly."
> > > > > Right...
> > > > Right. I don't think that Corey is gay.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think you're gay either.
> > > >
> > > > Your sock, otoh...
> > > You think I’m a fruit fly.
> > > I think you’re a fruit,
> > > acting like a wise guy,
> > > trying to look cute.
> >
> > Fruit fly, fruit fly
> > buzzing round my tree,
> > sucking at my nectar
> > dreaming dreams of me.
> This brings me an image of a Tex Avery cartoon parody of Richard Simmons, dancing to the oldies:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tex+avery+cartoons

Victor Hugo Fan wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The quote demonstrates your fascism.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bring me the definition of fascism.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure, here you go, Ash:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy ... fascism often manifests a belief in racial "purity" or a "master race", usually synthesized with some variant of racism or bigotry of a demonized other; the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings or
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forced deportations against a perceived other..."
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nuking the Middle East has nothing to do with
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is something the original fascists might have endorsed,as in:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings."
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're the proud fascist here, Pendragon.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fascism isn't necessarily about racial "purity," Will.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a form of government wherein the good of the State takes precedence over the individual:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "One of the most common and strongest criticisms of fascism is that it is a tyranny.[269] Fascism is deliberately and entirely non-democratic and anti-democratic..."
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Fascist_aesthetics
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's right, Will. Fascism is not equal to democracy.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you really need Wikipedia to tell you this?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Usenet is fundamentally democratic. Every fascist and/or idiot has their say.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is why Usenet groups inevitable devolve into battlegrounds and habitats for trolls. Not because it is a democracy, but because too much leeway is given to the idiots.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a Usenet group is to work, there have to be rules within that group.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And for rules to have any meaning, there has to be some means of enforcing them.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since most of us prefer posting in a "safe" environment, having productive, intelligent, and friendly discussions with our peers, etc., the adoption of a set of rules can be seen as both a necessity and as a benefit to the group as a whole. This is how a democracy should work.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The rules should be malleable and subject to change as the membership changes, and or as the majority opinion sees fit.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democracy without enforced rules results in anarchy and chaos.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can’t enforce rules here. You can make guidelines.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > True.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On the one hand, you can hope people think your guidelines
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > make enough sense to want to follow them to everyone’s benefit.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > In which case, the guidelines are enforced by the members.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, you can defecate. See which hand fills first.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > That's a defeatist way of looking at things, Corey.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > If enough members were to join -- and to adopt the guidelines -- those who refuse to comply would quickly find themselves having been relegated to the role of fruit flies.
>> > > > > > > > > > > Bzzzzzzzz
>> > > > > > > > > > Oh, Corey, you've always been a fruit fly.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Back to gay laming again, Pendragon?
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > "People who associate with lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people may be called fruit flies (along with fruit
>> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^
>> > > > > > > bats) regardless of their sex. Fruit fly can also refer to a gay man."
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_(slang)#Fruit_fly
>> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > > > > > > > No, Will. A fruit fly is just
>> > > > > > > See above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > > > > > So what?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > There's more than one connotation for a "fruit fly."
>> > > > > Right...
>> > > > Right. I don't think that Corey is gay.
>> > > >
>> > > > I don't think you're gay either.
>> > > >
>> > > > Your sock, otoh...
>> > > You think I’m a fruit fly.
>> > > I think you’re a fruit,
>> > > acting like a wise guy,
>> > > trying to look cute.
>> >
>> > Fruit fly, fruit fly
>> > buzzing round my tree,
>> > sucking at my nectar
>> > dreaming dreams of me.
>> This brings me an image of a Tex Avery cartoon parody of Richard Simmons, dancing to the oldies:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tex+avery+cartoons

Will Dockery wrote:
>>> michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The quote demonstrates your fascism.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bring me the definition of fascism.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure, here you go, Ash:
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy ... fascism often manifests a belief in racial "purity" or a "master race", usually synthesized with some variant of racism or bigotry of a demonized other; the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings or
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forced deportations against a perceived other..."
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nuking the Middle East has nothing to do with
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is something the original fascists might have endorsed,as in:
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings."
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're the proud fascist here, Pendragon.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fascism isn't necessarily about racial "purity," Will.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a form of government wherein the good of the State takes precedence over the individual:
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "One of the most common and strongest criticisms of fascism is that it is a tyranny.[269] Fascism is deliberately and entirely non-democratic and anti-democratic..."
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Fascist_aesthetics
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's right, Will. Fascism is not equal to democracy.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you really need Wikipedia to tell you this?
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Usenet is fundamentally democratic. Every fascist and/or idiot has their say.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is why Usenet groups inevitable devolve into battlegrounds and habitats for trolls. Not because it is a democracy, but because too much leeway is given to the idiots.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a Usenet group is to work, there have to be rules within that group.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And for rules to have any meaning, there has to be some means of enforcing them.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since most of us prefer posting in a "safe" environment, having productive, intelligent, and friendly discussions with our peers, etc., the adoption of a set of rules can be seen as both a necessity and as a benefit to the group as a whole. This is how a democracy should work.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The rules should be malleable and subject to change as the membership changes, and or as the majority opinion sees fit.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democracy without enforced rules results in anarchy and chaos.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can’t enforce rules here. You can make guidelines.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > True.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On the one hand, you can hope people think your guidelines
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > make enough sense to want to follow them to everyone’s benefit.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > In which case, the guidelines are enforced by the members.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, you can defecate. See which hand fills first.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > That's a defeatist way of looking at things, Corey.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > If enough members were to join -- and to adopt the guidelines -- those who refuse to comply would quickly find themselves having been relegated to the role of fruit flies.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > Bzzzzzzzz
>>> > > > > > > > > > Oh, Corey, you've always been a fruit fly.
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Back to gay laming again, Pendragon?
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > "People who associate with lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people may be called fruit flies (along with fruit
>>> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^
>>> > > > > > > bats) regardless of their sex. Fruit fly can also refer to a gay man."
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_(slang)#Fruit_fly
>>> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> > > > > > > > No, Will. A fruit fly is just
>>> > > > > > > See above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> > > > > > So what?
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > There's more than one connotation for a "fruit fly."
>>> > > > > Right...
>>> > > > Right. I don't think that Corey is gay.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I don't think you're gay either.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Your sock, otoh...
>>> > > You think I’m a fruit fly.
>>> > > I think you’re a fruit,
>>> > > acting like a wise guy,
>>> > > trying to look cute.
>>> >
>>> > Fruit fly, fruit fly
>>> > buzzing round my tree,
>>> > sucking at my nectar
>>> > dreaming dreams of me.
>>> This brings me an image of a Tex Avery cartoon parody of Richard Simmons, dancing to the oldies:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tex+avery+cartoons

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The quote demonstrates your fascism.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bring me the definition of fascism.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure, here you go, Ash:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy ... fascism often manifests a belief in racial "purity" or a "master race", usually synthesized with some variant of racism or bigotry of a demonized other; the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings or
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forced deportations against a perceived other..."
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nuking the Middle East has nothing to do with
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is something the original fascists might have endorsed,as in:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings."
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're the proud fascist here, Pendragon.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fascism isn't necessarily about racial "purity," Will.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a form of government wherein the good of the State takes precedence over the individual:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "One of the most common and strongest criticisms of fascism is that it is a tyranny.[269] Fascism is deliberately and entirely non-democratic and anti-democratic..."
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Fascist_aesthetics
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's right, Will. Fascism is not equal to democracy.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you really need Wikipedia to tell you this?
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Usenet is fundamentally democratic. Every fascist and/or idiot has their say.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is why Usenet groups inevitable devolve into battlegrounds and habitats for trolls. Not because it is a democracy, but because too much leeway is given to the idiots.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a Usenet group is to work, there have to be rules within that group.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And for rules to have any meaning, there has to be some means of enforcing them.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since most of us prefer posting in a "safe" environment, having productive, intelligent, and friendly discussions with our peers, etc., the adoption of a set of rules can be seen as both a necessity and as a benefit to the group as a whole. This is how a democracy should work.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The rules should be malleable and subject to change as the membership changes, and or as the majority opinion sees fit.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democracy without enforced rules results in anarchy and chaos.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can’t enforce rules here. You can make guidelines.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > True.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On the one hand, you can hope people think your guidelines
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > make enough sense to want to follow them to everyone’s benefit.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > In which case, the guidelines are enforced by the members.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, you can defecate. See which hand fills first.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > That's a defeatist way of looking at things, Corey.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > If enough members were to join -- and to adopt the guidelines -- those who refuse to comply would quickly find themselves having been relegated to the role of fruit flies.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Bzzzzzzzz
>>>> > > > > > > > > > Oh, Corey, you've always been a fruit fly.
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > Back to gay laming again, Pendragon?
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > "People who associate with lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people may be called fruit flies (along with fruit
>>>> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> > > > > > > bats) regardless of their sex. Fruit fly can also refer to a gay man."
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_(slang)#Fruit_fly
>>>> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> > > > > > > > No, Will. A fruit fly is just
>>>> > > > > > > See above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> > > > > > So what?
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > There's more than one connotation for a "fruit fly."
>>>> > > > > Right...
>>>> > > > Right. I don't think that Corey is gay.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I don't think you're gay either.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Your sock, otoh...
>>>> > > You think I’m a fruit fly.
>>>> > > I think you’re a fruit,
>>>> > > acting like a wise guy,
>>>> > > trying to look cute.
>>>> >
>>>> > Fruit fly, fruit fly
>>>> > buzzing round my tree,
>>>> > sucking at my nectar
>>>> > dreaming dreams of me.
>>>> This brings me an image of a Tex Avery cartoon parody of Richard Simmons, dancing to the oldies:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tex+avery+cartoons

Zod wrote:

> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 11:14:53 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 10:29:22 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 7:30:01 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous Corey wrote:
>> > > On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 9:59:55 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 9:33:13 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The quote demonstrates your fascism.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bring me the definition of fascism.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure, here you go, Ash:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy ... fascism often manifests a belief in racial "purity" or a "master race", usually synthesized with some variant of racism or bigotry of a demonized other; the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings or
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forced deportations against a perceived other..."
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nuking the Middle East has nothing to do with
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is something the original fascists might have endorsed,as in:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings."
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're the proud fascist here, Pendragon.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fascism isn't necessarily about racial "purity," Will.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a form of government wherein the good of the State takes precedence over the individual:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "One of the most common and strongest criticisms of fascism is that it is a tyranny.[269] Fascism is deliberately and entirely non-democratic and anti-democratic..."
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Fascist_aesthetics
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's right, Will. Fascism is not equal to democracy.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you really need Wikipedia to tell you this?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Usenet is fundamentally democratic. Every fascist and/or idiot has their say.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is why Usenet groups inevitable devolve into battlegrounds and habitats for trolls. Not because it is a democracy, but because too much leeway is given to the idiots.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a Usenet group is to work, there have to be rules within that group.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And for rules to have any meaning, there has to be some means of enforcing them.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since most of us prefer posting in a "safe" environment, having productive, intelligent, and friendly discussions with our peers, etc., the adoption of a set of rules can be seen as both a necessity and as a benefit to the group as a whole. This is how a democracy should work.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The rules should be malleable and subject to change as the membership changes, and or as the majority opinion sees fit.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democracy without enforced rules results in anarchy and chaos.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can’t enforce rules here. You can make guidelines.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > True.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On the one hand, you can hope people think your guidelines
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > make enough sense to want to follow them to everyone’s benefit.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > In which case, the guidelines are enforced by the members.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, you can defecate. See which hand fills first.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > That's a defeatist way of looking at things, Corey.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > If enough members were to join -- and to adopt the guidelines -- those who refuse to comply would quickly find themselves having been relegated to the role of fruit flies.
>> > > > > > > > > > > Bzzzzzzzz
>> > > > > > > > > > Oh, Corey, you've always been a fruit fly.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Back to gay laming again, Pendragon?
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > "People who associate with lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people may be called fruit flies (along with fruit
>> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^
>> > > > > > > bats) regardless of their sex. Fruit fly can also refer to a gay man."
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_(slang)#Fruit_fly
>> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > > > > > > > No, Will. A fruit fly is just
>> > > > > > > See above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > > > > > So what?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > There's more than one connotation for a "fruit fly."
>> > > > > Right...
>> > > > Right. I don't think that Corey is gay.
>> > > >
>> > > > I don't think you're gay either.
>> > > >
>> > > > Your sock, otoh...
>> > > You think I’m a fruit fly.
>> > > I think you’re a fruit,
>> > > acting like a wise guy,
>> > > trying to look cute.
>> >
>> > Fruit fly, fruit fly
>> > buzzing round my tree,
>> > sucking at my nectar
>> > dreaming dreams of me.
>> This brings me an image of a Tex Avery cartoon parody of Richard Simmons, dancing to the oldies:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tex+avery+cartoons

Will Dockery wrote:
>>> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 10:29:22 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> > On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 7:30:01 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous Corey wrote:
>>> > > On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 9:59:55 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> > > > On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 9:33:13 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The quote demonstrates your fascism.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bring me the definition of fascism.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure, here you go, Ash:
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy ... fascism often manifests a belief in racial "purity" or a "master race", usually synthesized with some variant of racism or bigotry of a demonized other; the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings or
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forced deportations against a perceived other..."
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nuking the Middle East has nothing to do with
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is something the original fascists might have endorsed,as in:
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings."
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're the proud fascist here, Pendragon.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fascism isn't necessarily about racial "purity," Will.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a form of government wherein the good of the State takes precedence over the individual:
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "One of the most common and strongest criticisms of fascism is that it is a tyranny.[269] Fascism is deliberately and entirely non-democratic and anti-democratic..."
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Fascist_aesthetics
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's right, Will. Fascism is not equal to democracy.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you really need Wikipedia to tell you this?
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Usenet is fundamentally democratic. Every fascist and/or idiot has their say.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is why Usenet groups inevitable devolve into battlegrounds and habitats for trolls. Not because it is a democracy, but because too much leeway is given to the idiots.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a Usenet group is to work, there have to be rules within that group.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And for rules to have any meaning, there has to be some means of enforcing them.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since most of us prefer posting in a "safe" environment, having productive, intelligent, and friendly discussions with our peers, etc., the adoption of a set of rules can be seen as both a necessity and as a benefit to the group as a whole. This is how a democracy should work.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The rules should be malleable and subject to change as the membership changes, and or as the majority opinion sees fit.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democracy without enforced rules results in anarchy and chaos.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can’t enforce rules here. You can make guidelines.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > True.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On the one hand, you can hope people think your guidelines
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > make enough sense to want to follow them to everyone’s benefit.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > In which case, the guidelines are enforced by the members.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, you can defecate. See which hand fills first.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > That's a defeatist way of looking at things, Corey.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > If enough members were to join -- and to adopt the guidelines -- those who refuse to comply would quickly find themselves having been relegated to the role of fruit flies.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > Bzzzzzzzz
>>> > > > > > > > > > Oh, Corey, you've always been a fruit fly.
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Back to gay laming again, Pendragon?
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > "People who associate with lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people may be called fruit flies (along with fruit
>>> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^
>>> > > > > > > bats) regardless of their sex. Fruit fly can also refer to a gay man."
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_(slang)#Fruit_fly
>>> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> > > > > > > > No, Will. A fruit fly is just
>>> > > > > > > See above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> > > > > > So what?
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > There's more than one connotation for a "fruit fly."
>>> > > > > Right...
>>> > > > Right. I don't think that Corey is gay.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I don't think you're gay either.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Your sock, otoh...
>>> > > You think I’m a fruit fly.
>>> > > I think you’re a fruit,
>>> > > acting like a wise guy,
>>> > > trying to look cute.
>>> >
>>> > Fruit fly, fruit fly
>>> > buzzing round my tree,
>>> > sucking at my nectar
>>> > dreaming dreams of me.
>>> This brings me an image of a Tex Avery cartoon parody of Richard Simmons, dancing to the oldies:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tex+avery+cartoons

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The quote demonstrates your fascism.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bring me the definition of fascism.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure, here you go, Ash:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy ... fascism often manifests a belief in racial "purity" or a "master race", usually synthesized with some variant of racism or bigotry of a demonized other; the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings or
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forced deportations against a perceived other..."
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nuking the Middle East has nothing to do with
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is something the original fascists might have endorsed,as in:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings."
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're the proud fascist here, Pendragon.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fascism isn't necessarily about racial "purity," Will.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a form of government wherein the good of the State takes precedence over the individual:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "One of the most common and strongest criticisms of fascism is that it is a tyranny.[269] Fascism is deliberately and entirely non-democratic and anti-democratic..."
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Fascist_aesthetics
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's right, Will. Fascism is not equal to democracy.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you really need Wikipedia to tell you this?
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Usenet is fundamentally democratic. Every fascist and/or idiot has their say.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is why Usenet groups inevitable devolve into battlegrounds and habitats for trolls. Not because it is a democracy, but because too much leeway is given to the idiots.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a Usenet group is to work, there have to be rules within that group.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And for rules to have any meaning, there has to be some means of enforcing them.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since most of us prefer posting in a "safe" environment, having productive, intelligent, and friendly discussions with our peers, etc., the adoption of a set of rules can be seen as both a necessity and as a benefit to the group as a whole. This is how a democracy should work.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The rules should be malleable and subject to change as the membership changes, and or as the majority opinion sees fit.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democracy without enforced rules results in anarchy and chaos.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can’t enforce rules here. You can make guidelines.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > True.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On the one hand, you can hope people think your guidelines
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > make enough sense to want to follow them to everyone’s benefit.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > In which case, the guidelines are enforced by the members.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, you can defecate. See which hand fills first.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > That's a defeatist way of looking at things, Corey.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > If enough members were to join -- and to adopt the guidelines -- those who refuse to comply would quickly find themselves having been relegated to the role of fruit flies.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Bzzzzzzzz
>>>> > > > > > > > > > Oh, Corey, you've always been a fruit fly.
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > Back to gay laming again, Pendragon?
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > "People who associate with lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people may be called fruit flies (along with fruit
>>>> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> > > > > > > bats) regardless of their sex. Fruit fly can also refer to a gay man."
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_(slang)#Fruit_fly
>>>> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> > > > > > > > No, Will. A fruit fly is just
>>>> > > > > > > See above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> > > > > > So what?
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > There's more than one connotation for a "fruit fly."
>>>> > > > > Right...
>>>> > > > Right. I don't think that Corey is gay.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I don't think you're gay either.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Your sock, otoh...
>>>> > > You think I’m a fruit fly.
>>>> > > I think you’re a fruit,
>>>> > > acting like a wise guy,
>>>> > > trying to look cute.
>>>> >
>>>> > Fruit fly, fruit fly
>>>> > buzzing round my tree,
>>>> > sucking at my nectar
>>>> > dreaming dreams of me.
>>>> This brings me an image of a Tex Avery cartoon parody of Richard Simmons, dancing to the oldies:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tex+avery+cartoons