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 by: Will Dockery - Mon, 1 Aug 2022 23:57 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:15:37 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 5:53:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
>> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>> >> >> Who here can top that?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
>> >>
>> >> > Why do you lie so much
>> >> I've asked you that same question a few times, you shit slinging little monkey.
>> >> > My poetry magazines were professionally printed, perfectbound, card cover, and approximately 200 pages.
>> >>
>> >> > They published authors from the US, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, India, and Australia.
>> >>
>> >> > Here are a few of the writers, poets, and artists who appeared in our publications:
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/ae-stallings
>> >>
>> >> > https://christinasng.com/
>> >>
>> >> > http://schwader.net/
>> >>
>> >> > https://seventhstarpress.com/books/steven-shrewsbury/
>> >>
>> >> > http://www.rainfallsite.com/FiendishFord.html
>> >>
>> >> > https://scarletzine.com/kevin-n-roberts/
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.briankeene.com/
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/scott-thomas/
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/red-chrysanthemums
>> >>
>> >> > https://robertpinskypoet.com/
>> >>
>> >> > https://bookshop.org/contributors/k-s-hardy
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Clark-Zumpe/e/B005JUX38M%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/paul-kane/
>> >>
>> >> > http://www.annafranklin.co.uk/
>> >>
>> >> > https://jamesdorrwriter.wordpress.com/
>> >>
>> >> > https://winningwriters.com/people/elizabeth-howkins
>> >>
>> >> > https://atlanteanpublishing.fandom.com/wiki/Phillip_A._Ellis
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Return-Eden-Gods-Pamela-Constantine/dp/1903949076
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.pw.org/content/jane_stuart_1
>> >>
>> >> > http://www.thehypertexts.com/Mary%20Rae%20Poet%20Poetry%20Picture%20Bio.htm
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Stephen-Brooke/e/B00BXHDFYW%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.sueparman.com/
>> >>
>> >> > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Cathy_Buburuz
>> >>
>> >> > http://www.bruceboston.com/
>> >>
>> >> > http://www.pulpmodern.net/authors/susan-e-abramski/
>> >>
>> >> > http://www.brianbiswas.com/
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.fantasticfiction.com/d/kevin-l-donihe/
>> >>
>> >> > https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2021/01/remembering-charlee-jacob-containment/
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Kurt-Newton/e/B006VYUMUM%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>> >>
>> >> > http://scars.tv/calendar2005/portet-karen-r.htm
>> >>
>> >> > https://loft.org/artists/holly-day
>> >>
>> >> > https://chris.michaelherring.net/
>> >>
>> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Veach_Sadler
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.sikoraarts.com/ralph-turturro
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Eavesdropping-Mary-Rudbeck-Stanko/dp/1879205157
>> >>
>> >> > http://www.timbooktu.com/napolin/napolin.htm
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Greg-Bauder/e/B0034Q1TMA?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1659386689&sr=1-1
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.poetshaven.com/archives/2232
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.amazon.com/High-Intemperance-Ann-MacKinnon-Kucera/dp/B001S37DI0
>> >>
>> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lisa-J-Becker/e/B07DD217W1%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>> >>
>> >> > http://descentintolight.com/
>> >>
>> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Burch
>> >>
>> >> > https://corrinedewinter.com/
>> >>
>> >> > And many, many more.
>> >> That's great to see that you made an effort to help other poets out of obscurity.
>>
>> > Yes, I'm sure Poet Laureate Robert Pinsky
>> So, you published a famous poet, it didn't exactly do much to improve your obscure status, did it?
>> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
>> >>
>> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years.... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
>>
>> > And your column was read by
>> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>>
>> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
>>
>> And so it goes.

> My magazines had print runs of 500 copies

While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.

I topped your lifetime circulation in less than a month, Pendragon.

Truth hurts but try to get over it and stop your whining.

HTH and HAND.

🙂

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 00:00 UTC

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:57:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:15:37 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 5:53:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >> >> >> Who here can top that?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Why do you lie so much
> >> >> I've asked you that same question a few times, you shit slinging little monkey.
> >> >> > My poetry magazines were professionally printed, perfectbound, card cover, and approximately 200 pages.
> >> >>
> >> >> > They published authors from the US, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, India, and Australia.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Here are a few of the writers, poets, and artists who appeared in our publications:
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/ae-stallings
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://christinasng.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> > http://schwader.net/
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://seventhstarpress.com/books/steven-shrewsbury/
> >> >>
> >> >> > http://www.rainfallsite.com/FiendishFord.html
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://scarletzine.com/kevin-n-roberts/
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.briankeene.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/scott-thomas/
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/red-chrysanthemums
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://robertpinskypoet.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://bookshop.org/contributors/k-s-hardy
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Clark-Zumpe/e/B005JUX38M%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/paul-kane/
> >> >>
> >> >> > http://www.annafranklin.co.uk/
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://jamesdorrwriter.wordpress.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://winningwriters.com/people/elizabeth-howkins
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://atlanteanpublishing.fandom.com/wiki/Phillip_A._Ellis
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Return-Eden-Gods-Pamela-Constantine/dp/1903949076
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.pw.org/content/jane_stuart_1
> >> >>
> >> >> > http://www.thehypertexts.com/Mary%20Rae%20Poet%20Poetry%20Picture%20Bio.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Stephen-Brooke/e/B00BXHDFYW%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.sueparman.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Cathy_Buburuz
> >> >>
> >> >> > http://www.bruceboston.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> > http://www.pulpmodern.net/authors/susan-e-abramski/
> >> >>
> >> >> > http://www.brianbiswas.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.fantasticfiction.com/d/kevin-l-donihe/
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2021/01/remembering-charlee-jacob-containment/
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Kurt-Newton/e/B006VYUMUM%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> >> >>
> >> >> > http://scars.tv/calendar2005/portet-karen-r.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://loft.org/artists/holly-day
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://chris.michaelherring.net/
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Veach_Sadler
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.sikoraarts.com/ralph-turturro
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Eavesdropping-Mary-Rudbeck-Stanko/dp/1879205157
> >> >>
> >> >> > http://www.timbooktu.com/napolin/napolin.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Greg-Bauder/e/B0034Q1TMA?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1659386689&sr=1-1
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.poetshaven.com/archives/2232
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/High-Intemperance-Ann-MacKinnon-Kucera/dp/B001S37DI0
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lisa-J-Becker/e/B07DD217W1%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> >> >>
> >> >> > http://descentintolight.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Burch
> >> >>
> >> >> > https://corrinedewinter.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> > And many, many more.
> >> >> That's great to see that you made an effort to help other poets out of obscurity.
> >>
> >> > Yes, I'm sure Poet Laureate Robert Pinsky
> >> So, you published a famous poet, it didn't exactly do much to improve your obscure status, did it?
> >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> >> >>
> >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> >>
> >> > And your column was read by
> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> >>
> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> >>
> >> And so it goes.
>
> > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.

That's a truckload of fish wrap.

Michael Pendragon
"Well, I've gone black and did come back. The black women I've had sex
with have been very exciting... there's that element of interest,
slightly different muscle tone and genital make up, that's hard to
describe in a family oriented group... it is a very tasty treat
indeed..."
-- Will Dockery, the man who went black and came back.

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 by: ME - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 00:06 UTC

On Monday, 1 August 2022 at 20:00:56 UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:57:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:15:37 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 5:53:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > >> >> >> Who here can top that?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Why do you lie so much
> > >> >> I've asked you that same question a few times, you shit slinging little monkey.
> > >> >> > My poetry magazines were professionally printed, perfectbound, card cover, and approximately 200 pages.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > They published authors from the US, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, India, and Australia.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Here are a few of the writers, poets, and artists who appeared in our publications:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/ae-stallings
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://christinasng.com/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > http://schwader.net/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://seventhstarpress.com/books/steven-shrewsbury/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > http://www.rainfallsite.com/FiendishFord.html
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://scarletzine.com/kevin-n-roberts/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.briankeene.com/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/scott-thomas/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/red-chrysanthemums
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://robertpinskypoet.com/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://bookshop.org/contributors/k-s-hardy
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Clark-Zumpe/e/B005JUX38M%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/paul-kane/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > http://www.annafranklin.co.uk/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://jamesdorrwriter.wordpress.com/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://winningwriters.com/people/elizabeth-howkins
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://atlanteanpublishing.fandom.com/wiki/Phillip_A._Ellis
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Return-Eden-Gods-Pamela-Constantine/dp/1903949076
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.pw.org/content/jane_stuart_1
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > http://www.thehypertexts.com/Mary%20Rae%20Poet%20Poetry%20Picture%20Bio.htm
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Stephen-Brooke/e/B00BXHDFYW%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.sueparman.com/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Cathy_Buburuz
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > http://www.bruceboston.com/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > http://www.pulpmodern.net/authors/susan-e-abramski/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > http://www.brianbiswas.com/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.fantasticfiction.com/d/kevin-l-donihe/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2021/01/remembering-charlee-jacob-containment/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Kurt-Newton/e/B006VYUMUM%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > http://scars.tv/calendar2005/portet-karen-r.htm
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://loft.org/artists/holly-day
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://chris.michaelherring.net/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Veach_Sadler
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.sikoraarts.com/ralph-turturro
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Eavesdropping-Mary-Rudbeck-Stanko/dp/1879205157
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > http://www.timbooktu.com/napolin/napolin.htm
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Greg-Bauder/e/B0034Q1TMA?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1659386689&sr=1-1
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.poetshaven.com/archives/2232
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/High-Intemperance-Ann-MacKinnon-Kucera/dp/B001S37DI0
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lisa-J-Becker/e/B07DD217W1%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > http://descentintolight.com/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Burch
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > https://corrinedewinter.com/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > And many, many more.
> > >> >> That's great to see that you made an effort to help other poets out of obscurity.
> > >>
> > >> > Yes, I'm sure Poet Laureate Robert Pinsky
> > >> So, you published a famous poet, it didn't exactly do much to improve your obscure status, did it?
> > >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > >>
> > >> > And your column was read by
> > >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > >>
> > >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > >>
> > >> And so it goes.
> >
> > > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> That's a truckload of fish wrap.
> Michael Pendragon
> "Well, I've gone black and did come back. The black women I've had sex
> with have been very exciting... there's that element of interest,
> slightly different muscle tone and genital make up, that's hard to
> describe in a family oriented group... it is a very tasty treat
> indeed..."
> -- Will Dockery, the man who went black and came back.

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Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:57:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:15:37 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
>> >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>> >> >> >> Who here can top that?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Why do you lie so much
>> >> >> I've asked you that same question a few times, you shit slinging little monkey.
>> >> >> > My poetry magazines were professionally printed, perfectbound, card cover, and approximately 200 pages.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > They published authors from the US, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, India, and Australia.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Here are a few of the writers, poets, and artists who appeared in our publications:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/ae-stallings
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://christinasng.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > http://schwader.net/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://seventhstarpress.com/books/steven-shrewsbury/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > http://www.rainfallsite.com/FiendishFord.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://scarletzine.com/kevin-n-roberts/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.briankeene.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/scott-thomas/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/red-chrysanthemums
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://robertpinskypoet.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://bookshop.org/contributors/k-s-hardy
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Clark-Zumpe/e/B005JUX38M%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/paul-kane/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > http://www.annafranklin.co.uk/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://jamesdorrwriter.wordpress.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://winningwriters.com/people/elizabeth-howkins
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://atlanteanpublishing.fandom.com/wiki/Phillip_A._Ellis
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Return-Eden-Gods-Pamela-Constantine/dp/1903949076
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.pw.org/content/jane_stuart_1
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > http://www.thehypertexts.com/Mary%20Rae%20Poet%20Poetry%20Picture%20Bio.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Stephen-Brooke/e/B00BXHDFYW%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.sueparman.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Cathy_Buburuz
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > http://www.bruceboston.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > http://www.pulpmodern.net/authors/susan-e-abramski/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > http://www.brianbiswas.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.fantasticfiction.com/d/kevin-l-donihe/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2021/01/remembering-charlee-jacob-containment/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Kurt-Newton/e/B006VYUMUM%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > http://scars.tv/calendar2005/portet-karen-r.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://loft.org/artists/holly-day
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://chris.michaelherring.net/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Veach_Sadler
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.sikoraarts.com/ralph-turturro
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Eavesdropping-Mary-Rudbeck-Stanko/dp/1879205157
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > http://www.timbooktu.com/napolin/napolin.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Greg-Bauder/e/B0034Q1TMA?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1659386689&sr=1-1
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.poetshaven.com/archives/2232
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/High-Intemperance-Ann-MacKinnon-Kucera/dp/B001S37DI0
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lisa-J-Becker/e/B07DD217W1%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > http://descentintolight.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Burch
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > https://corrinedewinter.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > And many, many more.
>> >> >> That's great to see that you made an effort to help other poets out of obscurity.
>> >>
>> >> > Yes, I'm sure Poet Laureate Robert Pinsky
>> >> So, you published a famous poet, it didn't exactly do much to improve your obscure status, did it?
>> >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
>> >>
>> >> > And your column was read by
>> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
>> >>
>> >> And so it goes.
>>
>> > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
>> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.

> That's

A lot of readers, I know.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 00:47 UTC

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 8:21:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:57:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:15:37 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> >> >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >> >> >> >> Who here can top that?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Why do you lie so much
> >> >> >> I've asked you that same question a few times, you shit slinging little monkey.
> >> >> >> > My poetry magazines were professionally printed, perfectbound, card cover, and approximately 200 pages.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > They published authors from the US, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, India, and Australia.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Here are a few of the writers, poets, and artists who appeared in our publications:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/ae-stallings
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://christinasng.com/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > http://schwader.net/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://seventhstarpress.com/books/steven-shrewsbury/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > http://www.rainfallsite.com/FiendishFord.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://scarletzine.com/kevin-n-roberts/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.briankeene.com/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/scott-thomas/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/red-chrysanthemums
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://robertpinskypoet.com/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://bookshop.org/contributors/k-s-hardy
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Clark-Zumpe/e/B005JUX38M%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/paul-kane/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > http://www.annafranklin.co.uk/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://jamesdorrwriter.wordpress.com/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://winningwriters.com/people/elizabeth-howkins
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://atlanteanpublishing.fandom.com/wiki/Phillip_A._Ellis
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Return-Eden-Gods-Pamela-Constantine/dp/1903949076
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.pw.org/content/jane_stuart_1
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > http://www.thehypertexts.com/Mary%20Rae%20Poet%20Poetry%20Picture%20Bio.htm
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Stephen-Brooke/e/B00BXHDFYW%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.sueparman.com/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Cathy_Buburuz
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > http://www.bruceboston.com/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > http://www.pulpmodern.net/authors/susan-e-abramski/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > http://www.brianbiswas.com/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.fantasticfiction.com/d/kevin-l-donihe/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2021/01/remembering-charlee-jacob-containment/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Kurt-Newton/e/B006VYUMUM%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > http://scars.tv/calendar2005/portet-karen-r.htm
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://loft.org/artists/holly-day
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://chris.michaelherring.net/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Veach_Sadler
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.sikoraarts.com/ralph-turturro
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Eavesdropping-Mary-Rudbeck-Stanko/dp/1879205157
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > http://www.timbooktu.com/napolin/napolin.htm
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Greg-Bauder/e/B0034Q1TMA?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1659386689&sr=1-1
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.poetshaven.com/archives/2232
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/High-Intemperance-Ann-MacKinnon-Kucera/dp/B001S37DI0
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lisa-J-Becker/e/B07DD217W1%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > http://descentintolight.com/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Burch
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > https://corrinedewinter.com/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > And many, many more.
> >> >> >> That's great to see that you made an effort to help other poets out of obscurity.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Yes, I'm sure Poet Laureate Robert Pinsky
> >> >> So, you published a famous poet, it didn't exactly do much to improve your obscure status, did it?
> >> >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> >> >>
> >> >> > And your column was read by
> >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> >> >>
> >> >> And so it goes.
> >>
> >> > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> >> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>
> > That's
> A lot of readers, I know.

A lot of cat-box liners.

Michael Pendragon
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indeed..."
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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 01:22 UTC

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 8:47:59 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 8:21:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:57:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:15:37 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > >> >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > >> >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > >> >> >> >> Who here can top that?
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > Why do you lie so much
> > >> >> >> I've asked you that same question a few times, you shit slinging little monkey.
> > >> >> >> > My poetry magazines were professionally printed, perfectbound, card cover, and approximately 200 pages.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > They published authors from the US, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, India, and Australia.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > Here are a few of the writers, poets, and artists who appeared in our publications:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/ae-stallings
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://christinasng.com/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > http://schwader.net/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://seventhstarpress.com/books/steven-shrewsbury/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > http://www.rainfallsite.com/FiendishFord.html
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://scarletzine.com/kevin-n-roberts/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.briankeene.com/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/scott-thomas/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/red-chrysanthemums
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://robertpinskypoet.com/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://bookshop.org/contributors/k-s-hardy
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Clark-Zumpe/e/B005JUX38M%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/paul-kane/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > http://www.annafranklin.co.uk/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://jamesdorrwriter.wordpress.com/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://winningwriters.com/people/elizabeth-howkins
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://atlanteanpublishing.fandom.com/wiki/Phillip_A._Ellis
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Return-Eden-Gods-Pamela-Constantine/dp/1903949076
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.pw.org/content/jane_stuart_1
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > http://www.thehypertexts.com/Mary%20Rae%20Poet%20Poetry%20Picture%20Bio.htm
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Stephen-Brooke/e/B00BXHDFYW%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.sueparman.com/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Cathy_Buburuz
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > http://www.bruceboston.com/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > http://www.pulpmodern.net/authors/susan-e-abramski/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > http://www.brianbiswas.com/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.fantasticfiction.com/d/kevin-l-donihe/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2021/01/remembering-charlee-jacob-containment/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Kurt-Newton/e/B006VYUMUM%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > http://scars.tv/calendar2005/portet-karen-r.htm
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://loft.org/artists/holly-day
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://chris.michaelherring.net/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Veach_Sadler
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.sikoraarts.com/ralph-turturro
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Eavesdropping-Mary-Rudbeck-Stanko/dp/1879205157
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > http://www.timbooktu.com/napolin/napolin.htm
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Greg-Bauder/e/B0034Q1TMA?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1659386689&sr=1-1
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.poetshaven.com/archives/2232
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/High-Intemperance-Ann-MacKinnon-Kucera/dp/B001S37DI0
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lisa-J-Becker/e/B07DD217W1%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > http://descentintolight.com/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Burch
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > https://corrinedewinter.com/
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > And many, many more.
> > >> >> >> That's great to see that you made an effort to help other poets out of obscurity.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Yes, I'm sure Poet Laureate Robert Pinsky
> > >> >> So, you published a famous poet, it didn't exactly do much to improve your obscure status, did it?
> > >> >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > And your column was read by
> > >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> And so it goes.
> > >>
> > >> > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > >> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >
> > > That's
> > A lot of readers, I know.
> A lot

Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.

And so it goes.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 04:38 UTC

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 9:22:18 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 8:47:59 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 8:21:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:57:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:15:37 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> > > >> >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > > >> >> >> >> Who here can top that?
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > Why do you lie so much
> > > >> >> >> I've asked you that same question a few times, you shit slinging little monkey.
> > > >> >> >> > My poetry magazines were professionally printed, perfectbound, card cover, and approximately 200 pages.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > They published authors from the US, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, India, and Australia.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > Here are a few of the writers, poets, and artists who appeared in our publications:
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/ae-stallings
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://christinasng.com/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > http://schwader.net/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://seventhstarpress.com/books/steven-shrewsbury/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > http://www.rainfallsite.com/FiendishFord.html
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://scarletzine.com/kevin-n-roberts/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.briankeene.com/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/scott-thomas/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/red-chrysanthemums
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://robertpinskypoet.com/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://bookshop.org/contributors/k-s-hardy
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Clark-Zumpe/e/B005JUX38M%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/paul-kane/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > http://www.annafranklin.co.uk/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://jamesdorrwriter.wordpress.com/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://winningwriters.com/people/elizabeth-howkins
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://atlanteanpublishing.fandom.com/wiki/Phillip_A._Ellis
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Return-Eden-Gods-Pamela-Constantine/dp/1903949076
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.pw.org/content/jane_stuart_1
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > http://www.thehypertexts.com/Mary%20Rae%20Poet%20Poetry%20Picture%20Bio.htm
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Stephen-Brooke/e/B00BXHDFYW%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.sueparman.com/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Cathy_Buburuz
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > http://www.bruceboston.com/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > http://www.pulpmodern.net/authors/susan-e-abramski/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > http://www.brianbiswas.com/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.fantasticfiction.com/d/kevin-l-donihe/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2021/01/remembering-charlee-jacob-containment/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Kurt-Newton/e/B006VYUMUM%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > http://scars.tv/calendar2005/portet-karen-r.htm
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://loft.org/artists/holly-day
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://chris.michaelherring.net/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Veach_Sadler
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.sikoraarts.com/ralph-turturro
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Eavesdropping-Mary-Rudbeck-Stanko/dp/1879205157
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > http://www.timbooktu.com/napolin/napolin.htm
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Greg-Bauder/e/B0034Q1TMA?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1659386689&sr=1-1
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.poetshaven.com/archives/2232
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/High-Intemperance-Ann-MacKinnon-Kucera/dp/B001S37DI0
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lisa-J-Becker/e/B07DD217W1%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > http://descentintolight.com/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Burch
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > https://corrinedewinter.com/
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > And many, many more.
> > > >> >> >> That's great to see that you made an effort to help other poets out of obscurity.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > Yes, I'm sure Poet Laureate Robert Pinsky
> > > >> >> So, you published a famous poet, it didn't exactly do much to improve your obscure status, did it?
> > > >> >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > And your column was read by
> > > >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> And so it goes.
> > > >>
> > > >> > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> > > >> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> > >
> > > > That's
> > > A lot of readers, I know.
> > A lot
> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.


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Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 9:22:18 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 8:47:59 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 8:21:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:57:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > >> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:15:37 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
>> > > >> >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>> > > >> >> >> >> Who here can top that?
>> > > >> >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > Why do you lie so much
>> > > >> >> >> I've asked you that same question a few times, you shit slinging little monkey.
>> > > >> >> >> > My poetry magazines were professionally printed, perfectbound, card cover, and approximately 200 pages.
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > They published authors from the US, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, India, and Australia.
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > Here are a few of the writers, poets, and artists who appeared in our publications:
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/ae-stallings
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://christinasng.com/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > http://schwader.net/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://seventhstarpress.com/books/steven-shrewsbury/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.rainfallsite.com/FiendishFord.html
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://scarletzine.com/kevin-n-roberts/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.briankeene.com/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/scott-thomas/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/red-chrysanthemums
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://robertpinskypoet.com/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://bookshop.org/contributors/k-s-hardy
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Clark-Zumpe/e/B005JUX38M%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/paul-kane/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.annafranklin.co.uk/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://jamesdorrwriter.wordpress.com/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://winningwriters.com/people/elizabeth-howkins
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://atlanteanpublishing.fandom.com/wiki/Phillip_A._Ellis
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Return-Eden-Gods-Pamela-Constantine/dp/1903949076
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.pw.org/content/jane_stuart_1
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.thehypertexts.com/Mary%20Rae%20Poet%20Poetry%20Picture%20Bio.htm
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Stephen-Brooke/e/B00BXHDFYW%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.sueparman.com/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Cathy_Buburuz
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.bruceboston.com/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.pulpmodern.net/authors/susan-e-abramski/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.brianbiswas.com/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.fantasticfiction.com/d/kevin-l-donihe/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2021/01/remembering-charlee-jacob-containment/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Kurt-Newton/e/B006VYUMUM%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > http://scars.tv/calendar2005/portet-karen-r.htm
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://loft.org/artists/holly-day
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://chris.michaelherring.net/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Veach_Sadler
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.sikoraarts.com/ralph-turturro
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Eavesdropping-Mary-Rudbeck-Stanko/dp/1879205157
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.timbooktu.com/napolin/napolin.htm
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Greg-Bauder/e/B0034Q1TMA?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1659386689&sr=1-1
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.poetshaven.com/archives/2232
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/High-Intemperance-Ann-MacKinnon-Kucera/dp/B001S37DI0
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lisa-J-Becker/e/B07DD217W1%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > http://descentintolight.com/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Burch
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > https://corrinedewinter.com/
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> > And many, many more.
>> > > >> >> >> That's great to see that you made an effort to help other poets out of obscurity.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> > Yes, I'm sure Poet Laureate Robert Pinsky
>> > > >> >> So, you published a famous poet, it didn't exactly do much to improve your obscure status, did it?
>> > > >> >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> > And your column was read by
>> > > >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> And so it goes.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
>> > > >> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>> > >
>> > > > That's
>> > > A lot of readers, I know.
>> > A lot
>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.


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 by: General-Zod - Mon, 8 Aug 2022 19:57 UTC

W.Dockery wrote:

> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 8:21:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
>>> > > > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:57:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> > > >> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:15:37 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
>>> > > >> >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>>> > > >> >> >> >> Who here can top that?
>>> > > >> >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > Why do you lie so much
>>> > > >> >> >> I've asked you that same question a few times, you shit slinging little monkey.
>>> > > >> >> >> > My poetry magazines were professionally printed, perfectbound, card cover, and approximately 200 pages.
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > They published authors from the US, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, India, and Australia.
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > Here are a few of the writers, poets, and artists who appeared in our publications:
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/ae-stallings
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://christinasng.com/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > http://schwader.net/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://seventhstarpress.com/books/steven-shrewsbury/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.rainfallsite.com/FiendishFord.html
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://scarletzine.com/kevin-n-roberts/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.briankeene.com/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/scott-thomas/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/red-chrysanthemums
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://robertpinskypoet.com/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://bookshop.org/contributors/k-s-hardy
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Clark-Zumpe/e/B005JUX38M%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/paul-kane/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.annafranklin.co.uk/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://jamesdorrwriter.wordpress.com/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://winningwriters.com/people/elizabeth-howkins
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://atlanteanpublishing.fandom.com/wiki/Phillip_A._Ellis
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Return-Eden-Gods-Pamela-Constantine/dp/1903949076
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.pw.org/content/jane_stuart_1
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.thehypertexts.com/Mary%20Rae%20Poet%20Poetry%20Picture%20Bio.htm
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Stephen-Brooke/e/B00BXHDFYW%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.sueparman.com/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Cathy_Buburuz
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.bruceboston.com/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.pulpmodern.net/authors/susan-e-abramski/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.brianbiswas.com/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.fantasticfiction.com/d/kevin-l-donihe/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2021/01/remembering-charlee-jacob-containment/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Kurt-Newton/e/B006VYUMUM%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > http://scars.tv/calendar2005/portet-karen-r.htm
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://loft.org/artists/holly-day
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://chris.michaelherring.net/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Veach_Sadler
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.sikoraarts.com/ralph-turturro
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Eavesdropping-Mary-Rudbeck-Stanko/dp/1879205157
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.timbooktu.com/napolin/napolin.htm
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Greg-Bauder/e/B0034Q1TMA?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1659386689&sr=1-1
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.poetshaven.com/archives/2232
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/High-Intemperance-Ann-MacKinnon-Kucera/dp/B001S37DI0
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lisa-J-Becker/e/B07DD217W1%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > http://descentintolight.com/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Burch
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > https://corrinedewinter.com/
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> > And many, many more.
>>> > > >> >> >> That's great to see that you made an effort to help other poets out of obscurity.
>>> > > >> >>
>>> > > >> >> > Yes, I'm sure Poet Laureate Robert Pinsky
>>> > > >> >> So, you published a famous poet, it didn't exactly do much to improve your obscure status, did it?
>>> > > >> >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
>>> > > >> >> >>
>>> > > >> >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
>>> > > >> >>
>>> > > >> >> > And your column was read by
>>> > > >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>>> > > >> >>
>>> > > >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
>>> > > >> >>
>>> > > >> >> And so it goes.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
>>> > > >> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
>>> > >
>>> > > > That's
>>> > > A lot of readers, I know.
>>> > A lot
>>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.


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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 9 Aug 2022 01:41 UTC

On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 5:23:18 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> W.Dockery wrote:
>
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 8:21:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> >>> > > > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:57:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> > > >> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:15:37 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >> >> >> >> Again, Playgrounds Magazine had a circulation of 10,000 copies a month for almost twenty years.
> >>> > > >> >> >> >> My monthly column and poetry in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >>> > > >> >> >> >> Who here can top that?
> >>> > > >> >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> >> Certainly not Michael Pendragon and his Xeroxed small press zines with their 10 copy print runs.
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > Why do you lie so much
> >>> > > >> >> >> I've asked you that same question a few times, you shit slinging little monkey.
> >>> > > >> >> >> > My poetry magazines were professionally printed, perfectbound, card cover, and approximately 200 pages.
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > They published authors from the US, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, India, and Australia.
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > Here are a few of the writers, poets, and artists who appeared in our publications:
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/ae-stallings
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://christinasng.com/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > http://schwader.net/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://seventhstarpress.com/books/steven-shrewsbury/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.rainfallsite.com/FiendishFord.html
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://scarletzine.com/kevin-n-roberts/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.briankeene.com/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/scott-thomas/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/red-chrysanthemums
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://robertpinskypoet.com/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://bookshop.org/contributors/k-s-hardy
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Clark-Zumpe/e/B005JUX38M%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.thisishorror.co.uk/read-horror/meet-the-writer/paul-kane/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.annafranklin.co.uk/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://jamesdorrwriter.wordpress.com/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://winningwriters.com/people/elizabeth-howkins
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://atlanteanpublishing.fandom.com/wiki/Phillip_A._Ellis
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Return-Eden-Gods-Pamela-Constantine/dp/1903949076
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.pw.org/content/jane_stuart_1
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.thehypertexts.com/Mary%20Rae%20Poet%20Poetry%20Picture%20Bio.htm
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Stephen-Brooke/e/B00BXHDFYW%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.sueparman.com/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/Cathy_Buburuz
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.bruceboston.com/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.pulpmodern.net/authors/susan-e-abramski/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.brianbiswas.com/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.fantasticfiction.com/d/kevin-l-donihe/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2021/01/remembering-charlee-jacob-containment/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Kurt-Newton/e/B006VYUMUM%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > http://scars.tv/calendar2005/portet-karen-r.htm
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://loft.org/artists/holly-day
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://chris.michaelherring.net/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Veach_Sadler
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.sikoraarts.com/ralph-turturro
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Eavesdropping-Mary-Rudbeck-Stanko/dp/1879205157
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > http://www.timbooktu.com/napolin/napolin.htm
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Greg-Bauder/e/B0034Q1TMA?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1659386689&sr=1-1
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.poetshaven.com/archives/2232
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/High-Intemperance-Ann-MacKinnon-Kucera/dp/B001S37DI0
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Lisa-J-Becker/e/B07DD217W1%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > http://descentintolight.com/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Burch
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > https://corrinedewinter.com/
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> > And many, many more.
> >>> > > >> >> >> That's great to see that you made an effort to help other poets out of obscurity.
> >>> > > >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> > Yes, I'm sure Poet Laureate Robert Pinsky
> >>> > > >> >> So, you published a famous poet, it didn't exactly do much to improve your obscure status, did it?
> >>> > > >> >> >> Still, I published my monthly poems and columns at 10,000 copies a month, so in one month my circulation exceeded yours for your entire publication history.
> >>> > > >> >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> >> And I was published monthly at 10,000 copies for nearly twenty years... stop whining about it and get over it, Pendragon.
> >>> > > >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> > And your column was read by
> >>> > > >> >> As many as 10,000 readers every month for nearly twenty years.
> >>> > > >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> Yes, that's a lot of readers, unlike your small press pamphlets with print runs of maybe fifty copies.
> >>> > > >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> And so it goes.
> >>> > > >>
> >>> > > >> > My magazines had print runs of 500 copies
> >>> > > >> While Playgrounds Magazine had a monthly circulation of 10,000 copies, and I published a monthly column and poem in every issue for nearly twenty years.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > That's
> >>> > > A lot of readers, I know.
> >>> > A lot
> >>> Yes, thousands of readers every month for nearly twenty years.
>
> >> Thousands
>
> > At least.
> With 10,000 copies available every month, of course...


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