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* Critics Mad About Tim Allen's "Right-Wing Santa" In "The Santa Clauses" MiniseriUbiquitous
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Critics Mad About Tim Allen's "Right-Wing Santa" In "The Santa Clauses" Miniseries On Disney+

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 by: Ubiquitous - Fri, 18 Nov 2022 09:30 UTC

Fans love that Tim Allen is reprising his role as Santa for the Disney+
miniseries, �The Santa Clauses,� but some critics are complaining he�s too
much of a �right-wing Santa.�

The 69-year-old actor is one of the few openly conservative people in
Hollywood. This makes it no surprise that critics zeroed in on a single line
in the new �Santa Clauses� series that follows up on the popular �The Santa
Clause� movie franchise, which premiered in 1994.

Allen again plays toy salesman Scott Calvin, who becomes Santa, but now he�s
looking for a suitable successor to wear the red suit. One reviewer described
the character as a �cranky, conservative Santa Claus.�

In one scene, Allen�s character complains about the state of modern society.
��Saying �Merry Christmas to all� has suddenly become problematic,� he
observes.

�What was going on in the minds of the writers as they penned this semi-
political one-liner?� an article on The A.V. Club wondered.

DigitalTrends had a similar reaction to that moment. �To suggest it strips
the story of some of its charm is an understatement, but with only two
episodes to go on, the series� plans for its right-wing Santa are almost
certainly going to make or break the show,� that reviewer observed, also
noting how Allen�s character seems �like he�s spent too much of the Christmas
offseason watching Fox News.�

Showrunner Jack Burditt addressed the line during an interview with Deadline.
The interviewer explicitly asked about the �lightning rod� quote and asked if
there was any �back and forth� on including it. Burditt said the writers did
consider the implications.

�Yeah, we did,� the showrunner said. �This is something that I just think is
silly but then I�m like, I don�t know.�

�I mean, look, we also had a joke at one point where Santa is on his rounds,
they�re going in for a landing and somebody�s shooting something up at him.
And Noel the elf [who rides with Santa], says something like, �A war on
Christmas!� I�m like, yeah, I don�t wanna go that far,� he continued.

Allen has been a target in Hollywood not just because he�s conservative, but
also due to the success of his comedy series �Last Man Standing,� which was a
ratings success until it was abruptly canceled.

The �Home Improvement� alum blamed his political beliefs on the show�s
cancelation.

�There�s nothing more dangerous to me, especially in this climate, than a
funny, likable conservative,� Allen said at the time.

�That was the most dangerous thing. Because he was mitigated on his show by a
family of women that had different opinions � but the guy was a likable guy,
a principled guy, just about work and ethics and all this stuff. I think
there�s nothing more dangerous now than a likable conservative character.�

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 by: BTR1701 - Fri, 18 Nov 2022 17:01 UTC

In article <tl7u18$2u891$5@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

> Fans love that Tim Allen is reprising his role as Santa for the Disney+
> miniseries, THE SANTA CLAUSES, but some critics are complaining he's too
> much of a "right-wing Santa".

Notice that the default assumption is that it's not only okay to have
left-wing characters, it's expected. But if you have even one right-wing
character (who's not a villain or otherwise bad), this is a problem.

> The 69-year-old actor is one of the few openly conservative people in
> Hollywood. This makes it no surprise that critics zeroed in on a single line
> in the new SANTA CLAUSES series that follows up on the popular THE SANTA
> CLAUSE movie franchise, which premiered in 1994.
>
> Allen again plays toy salesman Scott Calvin, who becomes Santa, but now he's
> looking for a suitable successor to wear the red suit. One reviewer described
> the character as a "cranky, conservative Santa Claus".
>
> In one scene, Allen�s character complains about the state of modern society.
> "Saying 'Merry Christmas to all' has suddenly become problematic," he
> observes.
>
> "What was going on in the minds of the writers as they penned this semi-
> political one-liner?" an article on The A.V. Club wondered.

Maybe that it's true?

I'll note once again that your television is currently saturated with
Christmas commercials from every conceivable retailer and those
retailers depend on this one holiday for up to 30% of their yearly
revenues, yet not one of them actually says the word "Christmas" in any
of their ads. It's the Voldemort of holidays-- its name must never be
spoken.

> DigitalTrends had a similar reaction to that moment. "To suggest it strips
> the story of some of its charm is an understatement, but with only two
> episodes to go on, the series� plans for its right-wing Santa are almost
> certainly going to make or break the show," that reviewer observed, also
> noting how Allen's character seems "like he's spent too much of the Christmas
> offseason watching Fox News."

Because of one line in the entire movie? Jeezus... get a grip, dude.

On the other hand, if the character had made some comment about his
pronouns what do you suppose the over/under is that this same reviewer
would have worriedly noted that "Allen's character seems like he's spent
too much of the Christmas offseason watching MSNBC"?

> Allen has been a target in Hollywood not just because he�s conservative

This is said with blase acceptance, as if it's perfectly normal that he
should be a "target" in his chosen profession because his political
views differ from the hive mind.
> also due to the success of his comedy series LAST MAN STANDING, which was a
> ratings success until it was abruptly canceled.

But it wasn't because Allen's a conservative. Just ask them. They'll
have all sorts of twisted logic ready to explain to you why they
canceled a hit show for no apparent reason whatsoever, other than its
star doesn't vote the way they'd prefer him to.

> The HOME IMPROVEMENT alum blamed his political beliefs on the show's
> cancelation.
>
> "There's nothing more dangerous to them, especially in this climate, than a
> funny, likable conservative," Allen said at the time.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Fri, 18 Nov 2022 18:37 UTC

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> In article <tl7u18$2u891$5@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> Fans love that Tim Allen is reprising his role as Santa for the Disney+
>> miniseries, THE SANTA CLAUSES, but some critics are complaining he's too
>> much of a "right-wing Santa".
>
> Notice that the default assumption is that it's not only okay to have
> left-wing characters, it's expected. But if you have even one right-wing
> character (who's not a villain or otherwise bad), this is a problem.
>
>> The 69-year-old actor is one of the few openly conservative people in
>> Hollywood. This makes it no surprise that critics zeroed in on a single line
>> in the new SANTA CLAUSES series that follows up on the popular THE SANTA
>> CLAUSE movie franchise, which premiered in 1994.
>>
>> Allen again plays toy salesman Scott Calvin, who becomes Santa, but now he's
>> looking for a suitable successor to wear the red suit. One reviewer described
>> the character as a "cranky, conservative Santa Claus".
>>
>> In one scene, Allen’s character complains about the state of modern society.
>> "Saying 'Merry Christmas to all' has suddenly become problematic," he
>> observes.
>>
>> "What was going on in the minds of the writers as they penned this semi-
>> political one-liner?" an article on The A.V. Club wondered.
>
> Maybe that it's true?
>
> I'll note once again that your television is currently saturated with
> Christmas commercials from every conceivable retailer and

That hasn’t happened to her yet. You must be ahead of us. I blame daylight
saving time.

Our store displays went Christmas on October 15 though.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Sat, 19 Nov 2022 05:53 UTC

crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

Ubi the shithead didn't write that. He plagarized.

Critics Mad About Tim Allen's 'Right-Wing Santa' In 'The Santa Clauses'
Miniseries On Disney+
By Amanda Harding
The Daily Wire
Nov 17, 2022
https://www.dailywire.com/news/critics-mad-about-tim-allens-right-wing-santa-in-the-santa-clauses-miniseries-on-disney

>>Fans love that Tim Allen is reprising his role as Santa for the Disney+
>>miniseries, THE SANTA CLAUSES, but some critics are complaining he's too
>>much of a "right-wing Santa".

>Notice that the default assumption is that it's not only okay to have
>left-wing characters, it's expected. But if you have even one right-wing
>character (who's not a villain or otherwise bad), this is a problem.

>>The 69-year-old actor is one of the few openly conservative people in
>>Hollywood.

I thought the + in LGBTQ+ meant "openly conservative".

>>. . .

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