On Jan 31, 2021 at 2:34:41 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> In article <rv6q36$2jlb$1@neodome.net>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/31/2021 01:34 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>> atropos@mac.com wrote:
>>>>> suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I just finished watching the senate hearings on Jennifer Grantholm's
>>>>>> nomination as energy secretary. All the members from energy producing
>>>>>> states stressed the job losses, including stopping the pipeline.
>>>>>> Grantholm said she saw this in MI during the recession and the loss of
>>>>>> auto industry jobs, and is well aware of their concerns. She wants to
>>>>>> put new jobs in place, such as building batteries
>>>>>
>>>>> Everyone hails electric cars as some kind of environmental boon but
>>>>> those batteries are an environmental nightmare. With regard to disposal,
>>>>> those old batteries are almost as bad for the environment as nuclear
>>>>> waste.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's bad enough now when those cars are little more than novelties for
>>>>> the idle rich, but multiply them by 20 million just for California alone
>>>>> as Emperor Newsom wants to do by banning gas-powered cars, and you'll
>>>>> have battery disposal sites that will make your skin melt.
>>>>>
>>>>> And mining the minerals for those batteries is also a highly toxic
>>>>> environmental nightmare. There are mines in Canada where the landscape
>>>>> looks like the surface of the moon.
>>>>
>>>> I thought most of the heavy metals came from China, where there are no
>>>> environmental rules and reulagtions, buyt yeahm depenbding on our enemy
>>>> for these materials is ridiculous.
>>>>
>>>>> Anyone who thinks electric cars will save the environment is as
>>>>> delusional as Occasional-Cortex.
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget that these so-called environmentalists don't seem to
>>>> realize these cars need to be recharged.
>>>
>>> They do, and the plan is to put charging stations in everywhere.
>>
>> Even out in the middle of the Mojave Desert?
>>
>> How do you drive from L.A. to Vegas when your electric hamster-mobile
>> starts to run out of juice in the middle of the great empty?
>>
>> And even if you do get a charging station somewhere out there, the
>> batteries take about 5-8 hours to recharge. I can pull off the highway
>> and gas up my SUV and be back on the road in 10 minutes. With an
>> electric car, I'd better bring a tent and some food because I'll need to
>> camp out for half a day while the car recharges. That four-hour drive to
>> Vegas just turned into an 11-hour+ ordeal.
>>
> That’s why you need a Tesla. Long range, short charge, charging station
> route specifically designed for the drive from L.A. to Las Vegas at 200 miles
> an hour.

I just got done spending a week in Vegas (at the new Resorts World casino--
highly recommended, BTW) and had to laugh when I stopped in Baker for some
gas. (Baker is a small town in the middle of the Mojave Desert.)

There was one Tesla super-charger at the gas station where I filled up. The
line to use it stretched across the parking lot and about 500 feet down the
road. And this "super-charging" feature only brings the time to charge down to
about 40 minutes from 5-8 hours, so the guy at the end of that line was
probably looking at a 5-hour wait just to get to the point where he could
spend 40 minutes charging his car.

I, on the other hand, had 0 minutes wait-time, filled up my SUV in five
minutes and was back on the road laughing my ass off at all the Tesla drivers
in my rear-view.

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>. . .

>I just got done spending a week in Vegas (at the new Resorts World casino--
>highly recommended, BTW) and had to laugh when I stopped in Baker for some
>gas. (Baker is a small town in the middle of the Mojave Desert.)

>There was one Tesla super-charger at the gas station where I filled up. The
>line to use it stretched across the parking lot and about 500 feet down the
>road. And this "super-charging" feature only brings the time to charge down to
>about 40 minutes from 5-8 hours, so the guy at the end of that line was
>probably looking at a 5-hour wait just to get to the point where he could
>spend 40 minutes charging his car.

What kind of moron drives across the desert in an all-electric vehicle?

>I, on the other hand, had 0 minutes wait-time, filled up my SUV in five
>minutes and was back on the road laughing my ass off at all the Tesla drivers
>in my rear-view.

On Dec 1, 2022 at 1:09:06 PM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>> . . .
>
>> I just got done spending a week in Vegas (at the new Resorts World casino--
>> highly recommended, BTW) and had to laugh when I stopped in Baker for some
>> gas. (Baker is a small town in the middle of the Mojave Desert.)
>
>> There was one Tesla super-charger at the gas station where I filled up. The
>> line to use it stretched across the parking lot and about 500 feet down the
>> road. And this "super-charging" feature only brings the time to charge down
>> to
>> about 40 minutes from 5-8 hours, so the guy at the end of that line was
>> probably looking at a 5-hour wait just to get to the point where he could
>> spend 40 minutes charging his car.
>
> What kind of moron drives across the desert in an all-electric vehicle?

Everyone, if Gavin Newsom gets his way.

>> I, on the other hand, had 0 minutes wait-time, filled up my SUV in five
>> minutes and was back on the road laughing my ass off at all the Tesla drivers
>> in my rear-view.

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>> . . .
>
>> I just got done spending a week in Vegas (at the new Resorts World casino--
>> highly recommended, BTW) and had to laugh when I stopped in Baker for some
>> gas. (Baker is a small town in the middle of the Mojave Desert.)
>
>> There was one Tesla super-charger at the gas station where I filled up. The
>> line to use it stretched across the parking lot and about 500 feet down the
>> road. And this "super-charging" feature only brings the time to charge down to
>> about 40 minutes from 5-8 hours, so the guy at the end of that line was
>> probably looking at a 5-hour wait just to get to the point where he could
>> spend 40 minutes charging his car.
>
> What kind of moron drives across the desert in an all-electric vehicle?
>

Look at an older super charger location map. Although it’s mostly lost now
amongst all the other dots, Musk first built a route from Los Angeles to
Las Vegas as an inducement to buy his cars. It was pretty much the only
place you could go from Los Angeles until he added the stops between there
and Phoenix.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

On 12/1/22 2:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Jan 31, 2021 at 2:34:41 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> In article <rv6q36$2jlb$1@neodome.net>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/31/2021 01:34 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>> atropos@mac.com wrote:
>>>>>> suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just finished watching the senate hearings on Jennifer Grantholm's
>>>>>>> nomination as energy secretary. All the members from energy producing
>>>>>>> states stressed the job losses, including stopping the pipeline.
>>>>>>> Grantholm said she saw this in MI during the recession and the loss of
>>>>>>> auto industry jobs, and is well aware of their concerns. She wants to
>>>>>>> put new jobs in place, such as building batteries
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everyone hails electric cars as some kind of environmental boon but
>>>>>> those batteries are an environmental nightmare. With regard to disposal,
>>>>>> those old batteries are almost as bad for the environment as nuclear
>>>>>> waste.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's bad enough now when those cars are little more than novelties for
>>>>>> the idle rich, but multiply them by 20 million just for California alone
>>>>>> as Emperor Newsom wants to do by banning gas-powered cars, and you'll
>>>>>> have battery disposal sites that will make your skin melt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And mining the minerals for those batteries is also a highly toxic
>>>>>> environmental nightmare. There are mines in Canada where the landscape
>>>>>> looks like the surface of the moon.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought most of the heavy metals came from China, where there are no
>>>>> environmental rules and reulagtions, buyt yeahm depenbding on our enemy
>>>>> for these materials is ridiculous.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone who thinks electric cars will save the environment is as
>>>>>> delusional as Occasional-Cortex.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't forget that these so-called environmentalists don't seem to
>>>>> realize these cars need to be recharged.
>>>>
>>>> They do, and the plan is to put charging stations in everywhere.
>>>
>>> Even out in the middle of the Mojave Desert?
>>>
>>> How do you drive from L.A. to Vegas when your electric hamster-mobile
>>> starts to run out of juice in the middle of the great empty?
>>>
>>> And even if you do get a charging station somewhere out there, the
>>> batteries take about 5-8 hours to recharge. I can pull off the highway
>>> and gas up my SUV and be back on the road in 10 minutes. With an
>>> electric car, I'd better bring a tent and some food because I'll need to
>>> camp out for half a day while the car recharges. That four-hour drive to
>>> Vegas just turned into an 11-hour+ ordeal.
>>>
>> That’s why you need a Tesla. Long range, short charge, charging station
>> route specifically designed for the drive from L.A. to Las Vegas at 200 miles
>> an hour.
>
> I just got done spending a week in Vegas (at the new Resorts World casino--
> highly recommended, BTW) and had to laugh when I stopped in Baker for some
> gas. (Baker is a small town in the middle of the Mojave Desert.)
>
> There was one Tesla super-charger at the gas station where I filled up. The
> line to use it stretched across the parking lot and about 500 feet down the
> road. And this "super-charging" feature only brings the time to charge down to
> about 40 minutes from 5-8 hours, so the guy at the end of that line was
> probably looking at a 5-hour wait just to get to the point where he could
> spend 40 minutes charging his car.
>
> I, on the other hand, had 0 minutes wait-time, filled up my SUV in five
> minutes and was back on the road laughing my ass off at all the Tesla drivers
> in my rear-view.

That's the way people behind the curve always think. That's what keeps
them at the ass end of reality. Kudos!

On 12/1/22 3:11 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2022 at 1:09:06 PM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> . . .
>>
>>> I just got done spending a week in Vegas (at the new Resorts World casino--
>>> highly recommended, BTW) and had to laugh when I stopped in Baker for some
>>> gas. (Baker is a small town in the middle of the Mojave Desert.)
>>
>>> There was one Tesla super-charger at the gas station where I filled up. The
>>> line to use it stretched across the parking lot and about 500 feet down the
>>> road. And this "super-charging" feature only brings the time to charge down
>>> to
>>> about 40 minutes from 5-8 hours, so the guy at the end of that line was
>>> probably looking at a 5-hour wait just to get to the point where he could
>>> spend 40 minutes charging his car.
>>
>> What kind of moron drives across the desert in an all-electric vehicle?
>
> Everyone, if Gavin Newsom gets his way.

The horror! Meanwhile, right wing assholes are working very hard to
outlaw "bad pronouns." LOL.