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Re: Was "Daredevil" the first woke superhero?

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 by: Ed Stasiak - Sun, 4 Dec 2022 13:45 UTC

> RichA
>
> By woke I'm referring to the idea of a blind man being a superhero.
> Woke means patronizing a certain disadvantaged group or person in order
> to flatter them with depictions of them or their hoped-for achievements
> in unrealistically-positive situations.

I don't see Daredevil as "woke", just an interesting take on the superhero
genre but by your definition, maybe Captain America? Steve Rogers
was a scrawny weakling before the Super Solider serum turned him into
a bad ass.

But I'm sure there are earlier examples, as superheroes are supposed
to appeal to kids who all feel constrained by grownups and want to be
powerful.

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On 12/4/2022 8:45 AM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>> RichA
>>
>> By woke I'm referring to the idea of a blind man being a superhero.
>> Woke means patronizing a certain disadvantaged group or person in order
>> to flatter them with depictions of them or their hoped-for achievements
>> in unrealistically-positive situations.
>
> I don't see Daredevil as "woke", just an interesting take on the superhero
> genre but by your definition, maybe Captain America? Steve Rogers
> was a scrawny weakling before the Super Solider serum turned him into
> a bad ass.
>
> But I'm sure there are earlier examples, as superheroes are supposed
> to appeal to kids who all feel constrained by grownups and want to be
> powerful.

'Captain Marvel, Jr.' comes quickly to mind.

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 by: A Friend - Sun, 4 Dec 2022 15:55 UTC

In article <c78ddee3-450c-4467-95a3-7123c817e728n@googlegroups.com>, Ed
Stasiak <edstasiak1067@gmail.com> wrote:

> > RichA
> >
> > By woke I'm referring to the idea of a blind man being a superhero.
> > Woke means patronizing a certain disadvantaged group or person in order
> > to flatter them with depictions of them or their hoped-for achievements
> > in unrealistically-positive situations.
>
> I don't see Daredevil as "woke", just an interesting take on the superhero
> genre but by your definition, maybe Captain America? Steve Rogers
> was a scrawny weakling before the Super Solider serum turned him into
> a bad ass.
>
> But I'm sure there are earlier examples, as superheroes are supposed
> to appeal to kids who all feel constrained by grownups and want to be
> powerful.

Dr. Mid-Nite, who debuted in 1941, was blind, although he devised a way
to be able to see.

So, no, Daredevil wasn't the first.

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