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 by: Victor Hugo Fan - Fri, 2 Sep 2022 21:32 UTC

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 12:09:16 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 3:10:30 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> >
> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
> >
> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
>
> We all do at one time or another.
>
> HTH and HAND.

Yep, they need to get over it

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 by: W-Dockery - Fri, 9 Sep 2022 19:15 UTC

Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Zod wrote:
>> >
>> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
>> >
>> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
>>
>> We all do at one time or another.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> Yep, they need to get over it.

Instead, they whine incessantly about it.

And so it goes.

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Fri, 9 Sep 2022 23:21 UTC

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:12:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Zod wrote:
>
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Zod wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
> >> >
> >> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
> >>
> >> We all do at one time or another.
> >>
> >> HTH and HAND.
> > Yep, they need to get over it.
>
> Instead, they whine incessantly about it.
>
> And so it goes.

And with your obsession with other people's mistakes, you need to get over it and practice what you preach, hypocrite. You blow other people's mistakes out of proportion much worse than they do-- how many new threads, how many times you keep bringing those mistakes up? You fools are not just blinder than me, but much more stupid.

And if what they do is whining, then you're doing it as well! Most of us are not gimps like Jordy and will not listen to everything you say as gospel because you're only friend to be found here...

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 by: Will Dockery - Fri, 9 Sep 2022 23:34 UTC

You're confused, as usual, Ash

🙂

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 by: General-Zod - Sat, 10 Sep 2022 20:06 UTC

Ash Wurthing wrote:

> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:12:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Zod wrote:
>>
>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Zod wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
>> >> >
>> >> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
>> >>
>> >> We all do at one time or another.
>> >>
>> >> HTH and HAND.
>> > Yep, they need to get over it.
>>
>> Instead, they whine incessantly about it.
>>
>> And so it goes.

> And with your obsession with other people's mistakes

You are a hypocrite as always Ash, Nancy Gene jumps on every mistake yet you seem to approve of that....!

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 by: W-Dockery - Tue, 13 Sep 2022 04:36 UTC

Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Zod wrote:
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>> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
>> >
>> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
>>
>> We all do at one time or another.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> Yep, they need to get over it
All they're able to do is whine about it.

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Subject: Re: New book coming out about John Dunne
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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 21 Sep 2022 01:13 UTC

On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 6:40:14 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>
> > On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:12:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Zod wrote:
> >>
> >> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Zod wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
> >> >>
> >> >> We all do at one time or another.
> >> >>
> >> >> HTH and HAND.
> >> > Yep, they need to get over it.
> >>
> >> Instead, they whine incessantly about it.
> >>
> >> And so it goes.
>
> > And with your obsession with other people's mistakes
> You are a hypocrite as always Ash, Nancy Gene jumps on every mistake yet you seem to approve of that....!

That's what makes it so funny when a know-it-all like Nancy Gene makes an error.

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 by: Zod - Fri, 23 Sep 2022 18:37 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> Zod wrote:

>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Zod wrote:
>>> >
>>> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
>>> >
>>> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
>>>
>>> We all do at one time or another.
>>>
>>> HTH and HAND.

>> Yep, they need to get over it.

> Instead, they whine incessantly about it.

> And so it goes.

What cry babies....

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General-Zod wrote:

> Ash Wurthing wrote:

>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:12:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Zod wrote:
>>>
>>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>>> >> Zod wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> >> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
>>> >>
>>> >> We all do at one time or another.
>>> >>
>>> >> HTH and HAND.
>>> > Yep, they need to get over it.
>>>
>>> Instead, they whine incessantly about it.
>>>
>>> And so it goes.

>> And with your obsession with other people's mistakes

> You are a hypocrite as always Ash, Nancy Gene jumps on every mistake yet you seem to approve of that....!

No surprise there.

🙂

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Fri, 30 Sep 2022 23:34 UTC

On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:53:49 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> General-Zod wrote:
>
> > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:12:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> Zod wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> >> Zod wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>> >> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> We all do at one time or another.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> HTH and HAND.
> >>> > Yep, they need to get over it.
> >>>
> >>> Instead, they whine incessantly about it.
> >>>
> >>> And so it goes.
>
> >> And with your obsession with other people's mistakes
>
> > You are a hypocrite as always Ash, Nancy Gene jumps on every mistake yet you seem to approve of that....!

And it's no surprise to see your hypocrisy, new cool kid. You wanted to be famous, well I guess you may get it as being the LAMest of all Usenet, as its greatest hypocrite. All these posts of yours and Sod's laming people for typos and simple errors that you tell us not to harp on. Some one posts about your typos and you and your soiled sock monkey go on about theirs for how long and with how many threads? 5 months now with this one (since April).
The funny thing is, I think NG is on vacation and don't even see your trolling-- now that's really lame!

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Ash Wurthing wrote:

> On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:53:49 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> General-Zod wrote:
>>
>> > Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> >> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:12:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >>> Zod wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>> >>> >> Zod wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >>> >> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> We all do at one time or another.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> HTH and HAND.
>> >>> > Yep, they need to get over it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Instead, they whine incessantly about it.
>> >>>
>> >>> And so it goes.
>>
>> >> And with your obsession with other people's mistakes
>>
>> > You are a hypocrite as always Ash, Nancy Gene jumps on every mistake yet you seem to approve of that....!

> And it's no surprise to see

To see Zod telling it like it is?

It should not be a surprise by now, Ash.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: W-Dockery - Tue, 4 Oct 2022 01:03 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Ash Wurthing wrote:

>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:12:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Zod wrote:
>>>
>>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>>> >> Zod wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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>>> >>
>>> >> We all do at one time or another.
>>> >>
>>> >> HTH and HAND.
>>> > Yep, they need to get over it.
>>>
>>> Instead, they whine incessantly about it.
>>>
>>> And so it goes.

>> And with your obsession with other people's mistakes

> You are a hypocrite as always Ash, Nancy Gene jumps on every mistake yet you seem to approve of that....!

Sorry Zod, looks like the bogus cease fire has ended.

🙂

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On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 11:15:35 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> General-Zod wrote:
>
> > Ash Wurthing wrote:
>
> >> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:12:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> Zod wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> >> Zod wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>> >> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> We all do at one time or another.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> HTH and HAND.
> >>> > Yep, they need to get over it.
> >>>
> >>> Instead, they whine incessantly about it.
> >>>
> >>> And so it goes.
>
> >> And with your obsession with other people's mistakes
>
> > You are a hypocrite as always Ash, Nancy Gene jumps on every mistake yet you seem to approve of that....!
> Sorry Zod, looks like the bogus cease fire has ended.

And look who's the crackpot calling the kettle black-- oh wait that's your Cankook friend! Oh how I love the hypocrisy, the idiocy of an imperious ego acting so ignominiously. Seriously, this ludicrous scene is pretty funny!
~~Mjr. Ash, from "Dr Ashtroll or: How I Learned to Stop Caring and Love the Flame War"
Produce proof that I support (or applaud as you have shit slung misrepresented before). But don't worry, you don't have to shut the fuck up, because you never will be able to do that!!
Now, unlike your ego that thinks its another Napoleon or Hitler, I don't start land wars in Asia, nor do I open two fronts, so that may clue you in if you weren't such an incorrigible fool. My fight is with you and you ass buddies that jumped in to bail out your lousy ass.
For your self study
a dictionary might help ya
If the cease fire was bogus, then there was never one to be over
Donkery, calling you a donkey would be insulting donkeys! An ass WAD would be more like it-- oh wait, that's your soiled sock monkey!

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Ash Wurthing wrote:

> On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 11:15:35 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> General-Zod wrote:
>
>> >>> >> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >>> >> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> We all do at one time or another.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> HTH and HAND.
>> >>> > Yep, they need to get over it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Instead, they whine incessantly about it.
>> >>>
>> >>> And so it goes.
>>
>> >> And with your obsession with other people's mistakes
>>
>> > You are a hypocrite as always Ash, Nancy Gene jumps on every mistake yet you seem to approve of that....!
>> Sorry Zod, looks like the bogus cease fire has ended.

> And look who's xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Keep on trolling, Ash, that's apparently all you have.

Unless you want to let us see those comix of yours.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: General-Zod - Sat, 8 Oct 2022 20:15 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> Zod wrote:

>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Zod wrote:
>>> >
>>> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
>>> >
>>> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
>>>
>>> We all do at one time or another.
>>>
>>> HTH and HAND.

>> Yep, they need to get over it.

> Instead, they whine incessantly about it.

> And so it goes.

Except when one of them makes the stupid fuck up, like nancy G. has been doing so often....

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 by: W-Dockery - Tue, 11 Oct 2022 03:46 UTC

Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> Zod wrote:

>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> Zod wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
>>>> >
>>>> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
>>>>
>>>> We all do at one time or another.
>>>>
>>>> HTH and HAND.

>>> Yep, they need to get over it.

>> Instead, they whine incessantly about it.

>> And so it goes.

> What cry babies....

I know, right?

🙂

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 by: George J. Dance - Tue, 11 Oct 2022 10:15 UTC

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> "Super-Infinite: The Transformations of John Donne" by Katherine
Rundell (September 6, 2022)
>
https://www.amazon.com/Super-Infinite-Transformations-Donne-Katherine-Rundell/dp/0374607400
>
> There is an informative article about the book at:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/apr/15/plague-poems-defiant-wit-and-penis-puns-why-john-donne-is-a-poet-for-our-times
>
> We found this passage to be worth thinking about:
> "Donne is often said to be a difficult poet. But if he is difficult,
it is the difficulty of someone who wants you to read harder, to pay
better attention. And when you have read and reread them, the poems open
– they salute you. The pleasures of Donne are akin to the pleasures of
cracking a safe: there is gold inside. And besides, why should it be
easy? Very little that is worth having is easy. We are not, he told us,
easy: we are both a miracle and a disaster; our lives deserve pity and
wonder, careful loving attention, the full untrammeled exuberance of our
imagination. When you have known vast horror, and still found glory, you
do not compare loves to doves. You write: “Taste whole joys.”
>
> We would like to unleash the "full untrammeled exuberance of our
imagination," but not through the hardships that Dunne had to experience.

"By this self-questioning he brings himself to understand that his
suffering may itself be a blessing, since he shares the condition of a
world in which our ultimate bliss must be won through well-endured
hardship."
~~ https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/john-donne

I see NG deleted their OP -- from Google groups. Too bad that doesn't
remove it from anywhere else.

Two interesting points:

1) I didn't notice before, but NG misspelled Dunne's name in the text as
well as in the header. The only times they got it right, were the times
they copied and pasted.

2) The only original text here:
- "There is an informative article about the book at"
- "We found this passage to be worth thinking about"
- "We would like to unleash the [...] but not through the hardships that
Dunne had to experience."
Where's the vaunted "original commentary" that "the group" is supposed
to require when one posts links?

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 by: W-Dockery - Tue, 11 Oct 2022 11:40 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > "Super-Infinite: The Transformations of John Donne" by Katherine
> Rundell (September 6, 2022)
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/Super-Infinite-Transformations-Donne-Katherine-Rundell/dp/0374607400
> >
> > There is an informative article about the book at:
> https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/apr/15/plague-poems-defiant-wit-and-penis-puns-why-john-donne-is-a-poet-for-our-times
> >
> > We found this passage to be worth thinking about:
> > "Donne is often said to be a difficult poet. But if he is difficult,
> it is the difficulty of someone who wants you to read harder, to pay
> better attention. And when you have read and reread them, the poems open
> – they salute you. The pleasures of Donne are akin to the pleasures of
> cracking a safe: there is gold inside. And besides, why should it be
> easy? Very little that is worth having is easy. We are not, he told us,
> easy: we are both a miracle and a disaster; our lives deserve pity and
> wonder, careful loving attention, the full untrammeled exuberance of our
> imagination. When you have known vast horror, and still found glory, you
> do not compare loves to doves. You write: “Taste whole joys.”
> >
> > We would like to unleash the "full untrammeled exuberance of our
> imagination," but not through the hardships that Dunne had to experience.

> "By this self-questioning he brings himself to understand that his
> suffering may itself be a blessing, since he shares the condition of a
> world in which our ultimate bliss must be won through well-endured
> hardship."
> ~~ https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/john-donne

> I see NG deleted their OP -- from Google groups. Too bad that doesn't
> remove it from anywhere else.

Narkive.com for one, a very good Usenet portal for several reasons, another one of which I'll point out in another thread, the "Paul McCartney" edition of Dancehall.

Here's John Dunne at Narkive:

https://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/zREM1nin/new-book-coming-out-about-john-dunne

> Two interesting points:

> 1) I didn't notice before, but NG misspelled Dunne's name in the text as
> well as in the header. The only times they got it right, were the times
> they copied and pasted.

> 2) The only original text here:
> - "There is an informative article about the book at"
> - "We found this passage to be worth thinking about"
> - "We would like to unleash the [...] but not through the hardships that
> Dunne had to experience."
> Where's the vaunted "original commentary" that "the group" is supposed
> to require when one posts links?

Good find, George.

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 by: Victor Hugo Fan - Tue, 11 Oct 2022 21:20 UTC

On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 2:36:44 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > "Super-Infinite: The Transformations of John Donne" by Katherine
> > Rundell (September 6, 2022)
> > >
> > https://www.amazon.com/Super-Infinite-Transformations-Donne-Katherine-Rundell/dp/0374607400
> > >
> > > There is an informative article about the book at:
> > https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/apr/15/plague-poems-defiant-wit-and-penis-puns-why-john-donne-is-a-poet-for-our-times
> > >
> > > We found this passage to be worth thinking about:
> > > "Donne is often said to be a difficult poet. But if he is difficult,
> > it is the difficulty of someone who wants you to read harder, to pay
> > better attention. And when you have read and reread them, the poems open
> > – they salute you. The pleasures of Donne are akin to the pleasures of
> > cracking a safe: there is gold inside. And besides, why should it be
> > easy? Very little that is worth having is easy. We are not, he told us,
> > easy: we are both a miracle and a disaster; our lives deserve pity and
> > wonder, careful loving attention, the full untrammeled exuberance of our
> > imagination. When you have known vast horror, and still found glory, you
> > do not compare loves to doves. You write: “Taste whole joys.”
> > >
> > > We would like to unleash the "full untrammeled exuberance of our
> > imagination," but not through the hardships that Dunne had to experience.
>
> > "By this self-questioning he brings himself to understand that his
> > suffering may itself be a blessing, since he shares the condition of a
> > world in which our ultimate bliss must be won through well-endured
> > hardship."
> > ~~ https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/john-donne
>
> > I see NG deleted their OP -- from Google groups. Too bad that doesn't
> > remove it from anywhere else.
> Narkive.com for one, a very good Usenet portal for several reasons, another one of which I'll point out in another thread, the "Paul McCartney" edition of Dancehall.
>
> Here's John Dunne at Narkive:
>
> https://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/zREM1nin/new-book-coming-out-about-john-dunne

Quite a good site ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Two interesting points:
>
> > 1) I didn't notice before, but NG misspelled Dunne's name in the text as
> > well as in the header. The only times they got it right, were the times
> > they copied and pasted.
>
> > 2) The only original text here:
> > - "There is an informative article about the book at"
> > - "We found this passage to be worth thinking about"
> > - "We would like to unleash the [...] but not through the hardships that
> > Dunne had to experience."
> > Where's the vaunted "original commentary" that "the group" is supposed
> > to require when one posts links?
> Good find, George.

Seconded....!

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 by: W-Dockery - Sun, 16 Oct 2022 22:47 UTC

Zod wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 2:36:44 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>> > On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>> > > "Super-Infinite: The Transformations of John Donne" by Katherine
>> > Rundell (September 6, 2022)
>> > >
>> > https://www.amazon.com/Super-Infinite-Transformations-Donne-Katherine-Rundell/dp/0374607400
>> > >
>> > > There is an informative article about the book at:
>> > https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/apr/15/plague-poems-defiant-wit-and-penis-puns-why-john-donne-is-a-poet-for-our-times
>> > >
>> > > We found this passage to be worth thinking about:
>> > > "Donne is often said to be a difficult poet. But if he is difficult,
>> > it is the difficulty of someone who wants you to read harder, to pay
>> > better attention. And when you have read and reread them, the poems open
>> > – they salute you. The pleasures of Donne are akin to the pleasures of
>> > cracking a safe: there is gold inside. And besides, why should it be
>> > easy? Very little that is worth having is easy. We are not, he told us,
>> > easy: we are both a miracle and a disaster; our lives deserve pity and
>> > wonder, careful loving attention, the full untrammeled exuberance of our
>> > imagination. When you have known vast horror, and still found glory, you
>> > do not compare loves to doves. You write: “Taste whole joys.”
>> > >
>> > > We would like to unleash the "full untrammeled exuberance of our
>> > imagination," but not through the hardships that Dunne had to experience.
>>
>> > "By this self-questioning he brings himself to understand that his
>> > suffering may itself be a blessing, since he shares the condition of a
>> > world in which our ultimate bliss must be won through well-endured
>> > hardship."
>> > ~~ https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/john-donne
>>
>> > I see NG deleted their OP -- from Google groups. Too bad that doesn't
>> > remove it from anywhere else.
>> Narkive.com for one, a very good Usenet portal for several reasons, another one of which I'll point out in another thread, the "Paul McCartney" edition of Dancehall.
>>
>> Here's John Dunne at Narkive:
>>
>> https://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/zREM1nin/new-book-coming-out-about-john-dunne

> Quite a good site ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > Two interesting points:
>>
>> > 1) I didn't notice before, but NG misspelled Dunne's name in the text as
>> > well as in the header. The only times they got it right, were the times
>> > they copied and pasted.
>>
>> > 2) The only original text here:
>> > - "There is an informative article about the book at"
>> > - "We found this passage to be worth thinking about"
>> > - "We would like to unleash the [...] but not through the hardships that
>> > Dunne had to experience."
>> > Where's the vaunted "original commentary" that "the group" is supposed
>> > to require when one posts links?
>> Good find, George.

> Seconded....!

Good afternoon, pretty funny.

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 by: General-Zod - Fri, 21 Oct 2022 20:15 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> Zod wrote:

>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Zod wrote:
>>> >
>>> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
>>> >
>>> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
>>>
>>> We all do at one time or another.
>>>
>>> HTH and HAND.

>> Yep, they need to get over it.

> Instead, they whine incessantly about it.

> And so it goes.

They have moved on to new obsessions now, I see.... good..!

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Sun, 23 Oct 2022 04:28 UTC

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 8:51:18 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Zod wrote:
>
> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> Zod wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > "New book coming out about John Dunne..."
> >>> >
> >>> > Ha ha ha... names matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>> So, Nancy Gene made a mistake.
> >>>
> >>> We all do at one time or another.
> >>>
> >>> HTH and HAND.
>
> >> Yep, they need to get over it.
>
> > Instead, they whine incessantly about it.
>
> > And so it goes.
> They have moved on to new obsessions now, I see.... good..!

Funny how you ass opinion buddy says "get over it" and you taunt with childish jabs about obsessions..
You pathetic so called uncool kids are pretty petty with your obsessive hypocritical bullying-- Dance would be proud of you because no one else would be. Even your "friends" (social support lackeys) K and Jordy are not impressedd with your behavior.

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 12:40:11 PM UTC-4, Will
Dockery wrote:
Name calling is a part of offensive language, you shit slinging little monkey.

Will Dockery
Jul 19, 2017, 5:24:24 PM
Oh, so I'm a topic of discussion over there, behind my back, without any chance for rebuttal or to give true story.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/tl4j-Wlrhkw/m/C2eiYJC7AAAJ

and what are you two doing by crossposting AAPC posts to RAP?

"Yes, the package looked good, your poetry is mostly garbage, as usual, Corey. Sad but true."
Will Dockery, November 26, 2021 at 3:56:54 PM UTC-5
"New Look" thread by HC
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/8RlRmu_B-XU/m/rqxACRojBQAJ

WHAT YOU AND YOUR ASS OPINION BUDDY WANT NO ONE TO KNOW:
**ktell about will part of problems
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Sun, 23 Oct 2022 16:21 UTC

On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 6:15:54 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > "Super-Infinite: The Transformations of John Donne" by Katherine
> Rundell (September 6, 2022)
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/Super-Infinite-Transformations-Donne-Katherine-Rundell/dp/0374607400
> >
> > There is an informative article about the book at:
> https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/apr/15/plague-poems-defiant-wit-and-penis-puns-why-john-donne-is-a-poet-for-our-times
> >
> > We found this passage to be worth thinking about:
> > "Donne is often said to be a difficult poet. But if he is difficult,
> it is the difficulty of someone who wants you to read harder, to pay
> better attention. And when you have read and reread them, the poems open
> – they salute you. The pleasures of Donne are akin to the pleasures of
> cracking a safe: there is gold inside. And besides, why should it be
> easy? Very little that is worth having is easy. We are not, he told us,
> easy: we are both a miracle and a disaster; our lives deserve pity and
> wonder, careful loving attention, the full untrammeled exuberance of our
> imagination. When you have known vast horror, and still found glory, you
> do not compare loves to doves. You write: “Taste whole joys.”
> >
> > We would like to unleash the "full untrammeled exuberance of our
> imagination," but not through the hardships that Dunne had to experience.
> "By this self-questioning he brings himself to understand that his
> suffering may itself be a blessing, since he shares the condition of a
> world in which our ultimate bliss must be won through well-endured
> hardship."
> ~~ https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/john-donne
>
> I see NG deleted their OP -- from Google groups. Too bad that doesn't
> remove it from anywhere else.

Are you still going on about a misspelling?

Well, guess what, George -- you've misspelled it as well (below).

> Two interesting points:
>
> 1) I didn't notice before, but NG misspelled Dunne's name in the text as

You're mistaken, George. NancyGene misspelled Donne's name in the text... just as you've misspelled it here.

> well as in the header. The only times they got it right, were the times
> they copied and pasted.
>
> 2) The only original text here:
> - "There is an informative article about the book at"
> - "We found this passage to be worth thinking about"
> - "We would like to unleash the [...] but not through the hardships that
> Dunne had to experience."
> Where's the vaunted "original commentary" that "the group" is supposed
> to require when one posts links?

You've just quoted it, George.

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Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 6:15:54 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>> > "Super-Infinite: The Transformations of John Donne" by Katherine
>> Rundell (September 6, 2022)
>> >
>> https://www.amazon.com/Super-Infinite-Transformations-Donne-Katherine-Rundell/dp/0374607400
>> >
>> > There is an informative article about the book at:
>> https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/apr/15/plague-poems-defiant-wit-and-penis-puns-why-john-donne-is-a-poet-for-our-times
>> >
>> > We found this passage to be worth thinking about:
>> > "Donne is often said to be a difficult poet. But if he is difficult,
>> it is the difficulty of someone who wants you to read harder, to pay
>> better attention. And when you have read and reread them, the poems open
>> – they salute you. The pleasures of Donne are akin to the pleasures of
>> cracking a safe: there is gold inside. And besides, why should it be
>> easy? Very little that is worth having is easy. We are not, he told us,
>> easy: we are both a miracle and a disaster; our lives deserve pity and
>> wonder, careful loving attention, the full untrammeled exuberance of our
>> imagination. When you have known vast horror, and still found glory, you
>> do not compare loves to doves. You write: “Taste whole joys.”
>> >
>> > We would like to unleash the "full untrammeled exuberance of our
>> imagination," but not through the hardships that Dunne had to experience.
>> "By this self-questioning he brings himself to understand that his
>> suffering may itself be a blessing, since he shares the condition of a
>> world in which our ultimate bliss must be won through well-endured
>> hardship."
>> ~~ https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/john-donne
>>
>> I see NG deleted their OP -- from Google groups. Too bad that doesn't
>> remove it from anywhere else.

> Are you still going on about a misspelling?

> Well, guess what, George -- you've misspelled it as well (below).

>> Two interesting points:
>>
>> 1) I didn't notice before, but NG misspelled Dunne's name in the text as

> You're mistaken, George.

No, he's not.

> NancyGene misspelled Donne's name in the text...

NancyGene misspelled John Donne's name twice, once in the text and on the subject line:

"Re: New book coming out about John Dunne"

>> well as in the header. The only times they got it right, were the times
>> they copied and pasted.
>>
>> 2) The only original text here:
>> - "There is an informative article about the book at"
>> - "We found this passage to be worth thinking about"
>> - "We would like to unleash the [...] but not through the hardships that
>> Dunne had to experience."
>> Where's the vaunted "original commentary" that "the group" is supposed
>> to require when one posts links?

...

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Mon, 24 Oct 2022 01:47 UTC

On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 7:37:31 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 6:15:54 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> >> > "Super-Infinite: The Transformations of John Donne" by Katherine
> >> Rundell (September 6, 2022)
> >> >
> >> https://www.amazon.com/Super-Infinite-Transformations-Donne-Katherine-Rundell/dp/0374607400
> >> >
> >> > There is an informative article about the book at:
> >> https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/apr/15/plague-poems-defiant-wit-and-penis-puns-why-john-donne-is-a-poet-for-our-times
> >> >
> >> > We found this passage to be worth thinking about:
> >> > "Donne is often said to be a difficult poet. But if he is difficult,
> >> it is the difficulty of someone who wants you to read harder, to pay
> >> better attention. And when you have read and reread them, the poems open
> >> – they salute you. The pleasures of Donne are akin to the pleasures of
> >> cracking a safe: there is gold inside. And besides, why should it be
> >> easy? Very little that is worth having is easy. We are not, he told us,
> >> easy: we are both a miracle and a disaster; our lives deserve pity and
> >> wonder, careful loving attention, the full untrammeled exuberance of our
> >> imagination. When you have known vast horror, and still found glory, you
> >> do not compare loves to doves. You write: “Taste whole joys.”
> >> >
> >> > We would like to unleash the "full untrammeled exuberance of our
> >> imagination," but not through the hardships that Dunne had to experience.
> >> "By this self-questioning he brings himself to understand that his
> >> suffering may itself be a blessing, since he shares the condition of a
> >> world in which our ultimate bliss must be won through well-endured
> >> hardship."
> >> ~~ https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/john-donne
> >>
> >> I see NG deleted their OP -- from Google groups. Too bad that doesn't
> >> remove it from anywhere else.
>
> > Are you still going on about a misspelling?
>
> > Well, guess what, George -- you've misspelled it as well (below).
>
>
> >> Two interesting points:
> >>
> >> 1) I didn't notice before, but NG misspelled Dunne's name in the text as
>
> > You're mistaken, George.
> No, he's not.

George misspelled it as well, Donkey.

And after all the brouhaha you and your Stink have been making, one would think he'd have been more careful.

Mensa member, my eye!

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