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* Insane Peace, by ZodZod
+* Re: Insane Peace, by ZodMichael Pendragon
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Re: Insane Peace, by Zod

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 18:26 UTC

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 2:12:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:51:59 PM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:46:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 10:12:28 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Insane Peace
> > > > >
> > > > > I will lose the insanity
> > > > > In the oaks
> > > > > For a white shuttle
> > > > > She might smile.
> > > > >
> > > > > While peace makers scowl
> > > > > Over morning news
> > > > > Might fly by night
> > > > > Over the bird lands.
> > > > >
> > > > > Swords and shields
> > > > > Ride interruptions
> > > > > Volcano lust
> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Zod
> > > > >
> > > > > ***********
> > > > Not this one again!
> > > >
> > > > Next time you feel the need to masturbate, please confine it to the privacy of your tarp.
> > >
> > > Your lack of understanding and appreciation of avant garde poetry is noted, Pendragon, you shit spewing little monkey.
> > >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > So, if Michael doesn’t understand it, and you won’t explain it like you said you would,
> It's not my problem if Pendragon has comprehension problems with "modern" or avant garde poetry.
> > then I may as well mark this thread as spam also. No offense intended, of course.
> None taken.
>
>
> HTH and HAND.

Mutual comprehension is everybody’s problem.
It would certainly serve George to have you explain
his poem to the better understanding of everyone
reading, not just Michael. That’s what discussion
groups are intended for, but if you’re content to
argue back and forth with Michael, then of course
that’s the reading material you leave for everyone.
No one benefits from whatever insights you may
have on a poem written by one of your best friends.

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 by: Victor H. - Wed, 21 Sep 2022 21:22 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>
>> > > > > Insane Peace
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I will lose the insanity
>> > > > > In the oaks
>> > > > > For a white shuttle
>> > > > > She might smile.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > While peace makers scowl
>> > > > > Over morning news
>> > > > > Might fly by night
>> > > > > Over the bird lands.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Swords and shields
>> > > > > Ride interruptions
>> > > > > Volcano lust
>> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --Zod
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ***********
>> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > I thank you....
>> > My honest opinion.
>> >
>> > 🙂
>> Cool...

> So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?

> Enquiring minds, and all that.

Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 02:45 UTC

On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:43:44 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> >
> >> > > > > Insane Peace
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
> >> > > > > In the oaks
> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
> >> > > > > She might smile.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
> >> > > > > Over morning news
> >> > > > > Might fly by night
> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Swords and shields
> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
> >> > > > > Volcano lust
> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --Zod
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ***********
> >> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I thank you....
> >> > My honest opinion.
> >> >
> >> > 🙂
> >> Cool...
>
> > So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?
>
> > Enquiring minds, and all that.
> Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?

What does your poem mean?

What does the white shuttle symbolize?

Who is the "she" who might smile?

What might fly by night?

What are land birds? Turkeys?

What has lust got to do with shuttles and land birds?

What message is your poem trying to convey?

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:02 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:43:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> >
>> >> > > > > Insane Peace
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
>> >> > > > > In the oaks
>> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
>> >> > > > > She might smile.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
>> >> > > > > Over morning news
>> >> > > > > Might fly by night
>> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Swords and shields
>> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
>> >> > > > > Volcano lust
>> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > --Zod
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > ***********
>> >> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I thank you....
>> >> > My honest opinion.
>> >> >
>> >> > 🙂
>> >> Cool...
>>
>> > So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?
>>
>> > Enquiring minds, and all that.
>> Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?

>

> Who is the "she" who might smile?

My guess is that's probably Loretta.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:15 UTC

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:02:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:43:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > > > > Insane Peace
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
> >> >> > > > > In the oaks
> >> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
> >> >> > > > > She might smile.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
> >> >> > > > > Over morning news
> >> >> > > > > Might fly by night
> >> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Swords and shields
> >> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
> >> >> > > > > Volcano lust
> >> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > --Zod
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > ***********
> >> >> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I thank you....
> >> >> > My honest opinion.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 🙂
> >> >> Cool...
> >>
> >> > So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?
> >>
> >> > Enquiring minds, and all that.
> >> Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?
>
> >
> > Who is the "she" who might smile?
> My guess is that's probably Loretta.

That's all you've got?

That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?

Why might Loretta be smiling? What significance has her possible smile got in relation to the rest of the poem?

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:20 UTC

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:15:22 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail..com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:02:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:43:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> > > > > Insane Peace
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
> > >> >> > > > > In the oaks
> > >> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
> > >> >> > > > > She might smile.
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
> > >> >> > > > > Over morning news
> > >> >> > > > > Might fly by night
> > >> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > Swords and shields
> > >> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
> > >> >> > > > > Volcano lust
> > >> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > --Zod
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > ***********
> > >> >> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > I thank you....
> > >> >> > My honest opinion.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > 🙂
> > >> >> Cool...
> > >>
> > >> > So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?
> > >>
> > >> > Enquiring minds, and all that.
> > >> Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?
> >
> > >
> > > Who is the "she" who might smile?
> > My guess is that's probably Loretta.
> That's all you've got?

For starters.

I know Loretta was often the subject of Zod's art and poetry during that time.

> That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
>
> Why might Loretta be smiling? What significance has her possible smile got in relation to the rest of the poem?

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:25 UTC

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:20:51 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:15:22 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:02:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:43:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> > > > > Insane Peace
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
> > > >> >> > > > > In the oaks
> > > >> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
> > > >> >> > > > > She might smile.
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
> > > >> >> > > > > Over morning news
> > > >> >> > > > > Might fly by night
> > > >> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > Swords and shields
> > > >> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
> > > >> >> > > > > Volcano lust
> > > >> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > --Zod
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > ***********
> > > >> >> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > I thank you....
> > > >> >> > My honest opinion.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > 🙂
> > > >> >> Cool...
> > > >>
> > > >> > So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?
> > > >>
> > > >> > Enquiring minds, and all that.
> > > >> Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Who is the "she" who might smile?
> > > My guess is that's probably Loretta.
> > That's all you've got?
> For starters.
>
> I know Loretta was often the subject of Zod's art and poetry during that time.
> > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
> >
> > Why might Loretta be smiling? What significance has her possible smile got in relation to the rest of the poem?

That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?

Why might Loretta be smiling at a white shuttle?

What has Loretta's smiling at a shuttle got to do with volcanic lust?

The General has concocted a laundry list of thought fragments. Are you able to piece them together into an intelligible narrative or not?

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:29 UTC

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:25:47 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail..com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:20:51 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:15:22 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:02:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:43:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> > > > > Insane Peace
> > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
> > > > >> >> > > > > In the oaks
> > > > >> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
> > > > >> >> > > > > She might smile.
> > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
> > > > >> >> > > > > Over morning news
> > > > >> >> > > > > Might fly by night
> > > > >> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
> > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > Swords and shields
> > > > >> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
> > > > >> >> > > > > Volcano lust
> > > > >> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
> > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > --Zod
> > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > ***********
> > > > >> >> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
> > > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >> >> > >
> > > > >> >> > > I thank you....
> > > > >> >> > My honest opinion.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > 🙂
> > > > >> >> Cool...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Enquiring minds, and all that.
> > > > >> Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Who is the "she" who might smile?
> > > > My guess is that's probably Loretta.
> > > That's all you've got?
> > For starters.
> >
> > I know Loretta was often the subject of Zod's art and poetry during that time.
> > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
> > >
> > > Why might Loretta be smiling? What significance has her possible smile got in relation to the rest of the poem?
>
> That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
> Why might Loretta be smiling at a white shuttle?

To be honest, I think it's either a sexual or drug reference, maybe both.

> What has Loretta's smiling at a shuttle got to do with volcanic lust?.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:36 UTC

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:29:59 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:25:47 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:20:51 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:15:22 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:02:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:43:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > >> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > Insane Peace
> > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
> > > > > >> >> > > > > In the oaks
> > > > > >> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
> > > > > >> >> > > > > She might smile.
> > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
> > > > > >> >> > > > > Over morning news
> > > > > >> >> > > > > Might fly by night
> > > > > >> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
> > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > Swords and shields
> > > > > >> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
> > > > > >> >> > > > > Volcano lust
> > > > > >> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
> > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > --Zod
> > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > ***********
> > > > > >> >> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
> > > > > >> >> > > >
> > > > > >> >> > >
> > > > > >> >> > > I thank you....
> > > > > >> >> > My honest opinion.
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> > 🙂
> > > > > >> >> Cool...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Enquiring minds, and all that.
> > > > > >> Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who is the "she" who might smile?
> > > > > My guess is that's probably Loretta.
> > > > That's all you've got?
> > > For starters.
> > >
> > > I know Loretta was often the subject of Zod's art and poetry during that time.
> > > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
> > > >
> > > > Why might Loretta be smiling? What significance has her possible smile got in relation to the rest of the poem?
> >
> > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
> > Why might Loretta be smiling at a white shuttle?
> To be honest, I think it's either a sexual or drug reference, maybe both.

How so?

It doesn't remind me of either.

If anything, I'm reminded of the ill-fated space shuttle disaster of 1986.... although I can't imagine how that (or anything else) relates to the General's stream of consciousness thought fragments.

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Subject: Re: Insane Peace, by Zod
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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:39 UTC

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:36:50 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail..com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:29:59 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:25:47 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:20:51 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:15:22 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:02:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:43:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Insane Peace
> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > In the oaks
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > She might smile.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Over morning news
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Might fly by night
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Swords and shields
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Volcano lust
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > --Zod
> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > ***********
> > > > > > >> >> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
> > > > > > >> >> > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > I thank you....
> > > > > > >> >> > My honest opinion.
> > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > >> >> > 🙂
> > > > > > >> >> Cool...
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > Enquiring minds, and all that.
> > > > > > >> Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Who is the "she" who might smile?
> > > > > > My guess is that's probably Loretta.
> > > > > That's all you've got?
> > > > For starters.
> > > >
> > > > I know Loretta was often the subject of Zod's art and poetry during that time.
> > > > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Why might Loretta be smiling? What significance has her possible smile got in relation to the rest of the poem?
> > >
> > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
> > > Why might Loretta be smiling at a white shuttle?
> > To be honest, I think it's either a sexual or drug reference, maybe both.
> How so?
>
> It doesn't remind me of either.

Okay, then like I said, figure the poem out for yourself, as I have.

HTH and HAND.
> If anything, I'm reminded of the ill-fated space shuttle disaster of 1986.... although I can't imagine how that (or anything else) relates to the General's stream of consciousness thought fragments.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:44 UTC

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:39:14 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:36:50 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:29:59 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:25:47 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:20:51 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:15:22 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:02:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:43:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > Insane Peace
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > In the oaks
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > She might smile.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > Over morning news
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > Might fly by night
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > Swords and shields
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > Volcano lust
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > --Zod
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > ***********
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > I thank you....
> > > > > > > >> >> > My honest opinion.
> > > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > > >> >> > 🙂
> > > > > > > >> >> Cool...
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > Enquiring minds, and all that.
> > > > > > > >> Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Who is the "she" who might smile?
> > > > > > > My guess is that's probably Loretta.
> > > > > > That's all you've got?
> > > > > For starters.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know Loretta was often the subject of Zod's art and poetry during that time.
> > > > > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why might Loretta be smiling? What significance has her possible smile got in relation to the rest of the poem?
> > > >
> > > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
> > > > Why might Loretta be smiling at a white shuttle?
> > > To be honest, I think it's either a sexual or drug reference, maybe both.
> > How so?
> >
> > It doesn't remind me of either.
> Okay, then like I said, figure the poem out for yourself, as I have.
>
> HTH and HAND.
> > If anything, I'm reminded of the ill-fated space shuttle disaster of 1986... although I can't imagine how that (or anything else) relates to the General's stream of consciousness thought fragments.

No... you said that you would explain it to me, Donkey.

I'm unable to make any sense of it. I'm assuming that my understanding of the English language is getting in the way (parsing gibberish is best attempted without any preconceived linguistic notions).

If you're also unable to make any sense of it, we should agree as to its lack of intelligibility and move on.

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:54 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>
> Insane Peace
>
> I will lose the insanity
> In the oaks
> For a white shuttle
> She might smile.
>
> While peace makers scowl
> Over morning news
> Might fly by night
> Over the bird lands.
>
> Swords and shields
> Ride interruptions
> Volcano lust
> Like a slow orgasm.
>
> -Zod

<snip>

No, you

Pendragon's whining snipped>

I began to explain what the poem means to me, but since you don't agree, you're on your own, Pendragon, you whining little monkey.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 09:33 UTC

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:54:52 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> >
> > Insane Peace
> >
> > I will lose the insanity
> > In the oaks
> > For a white shuttle
> > She might smile.
> >
> > While peace makers scowl
> > Over morning news
> > Might fly by night
> > Over the bird lands.
> >
> > Swords and shields
> > Ride interruptions
> > Volcano lust
> > Like a slow orgasm.
> >
> > -Zod
>
> <snip>
>
> No, you
>
> Pendragon's whining snipped>
>
> I began to explain what the poem means to me, but since you don't agree, you're on your own, Pendragon, you whining little monkey.
>
> HTH and HAND.

1) You didn't begin to explain what it means. You merely guessed at the identity of the unnamed "she" it refers to.
2) I didn't disagree with you. I merely pointed out that identifying the "she" doesn't explain what the poem means.

You really don't understand 9/10ths of what I, or anyone else here writes, do you?
[Rhetorical question alert.]

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 10:14 UTC

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:33:49 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:54:52 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > >
> > > Insane Peace
> > >
> > > I will lose the insanity
> > > In the oaks
> > > For a white shuttle
> > > She might smile.
> > >
> > > While peace makers scowl
> > > Over morning news
> > > Might fly by night
> > > Over the bird lands.
> > >
> > > Swords and shields
> > > Ride interruptions
> > > Volcano lust
> > > Like a slow orgasm.
> > >
> > > -Zod
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > No, you
> >
> > Pendragon's whining snipped>
> >
> > I began to explain what the poem means to me, but since you don't agree, you're on your own, Pendragon, you whining little monkey.
> >
> > HTH and HAND.
> 1) You didn't begin to explain what it means. You merely guessed at the identity of the unnamed "she" it refers to.
> 2) I didn't disagree with you. I merely pointed out that identifying the "she" doesn't explain what the poem means.
>
> You really don't understand 9/10ths of what I, or anyone else here writes, do you?
> [Rhetorical question alert.]

The poem is obviously about the game of badminton,
which is a very popular competitive sport in Denmark
and many Asian countries. Why can’t you see that?!?

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 11:33 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:36:50 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail..com wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:29:59 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:25:47 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:20:51 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:15:22 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef.....@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:02:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:43:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> > > > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Insane Peace
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > In the oaks
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > She might smile.
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Over morning news
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Might fly by night
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Swords and shields
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Volcano lust
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > --Zod
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > > ***********
>> > > > > > >> >> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
>> > > > > > >> >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> >> > >
>> > > > > > >> >> > > I thank you....
>> > > > > > >> >> > My honest opinion.
>> > > > > > >> >> >
>> > > > > > >> >> > 🙂
>> > > > > > >> >> Cool...
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > Enquiring minds, and all that.
>> > > > > > >> Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Who is the "she" who might smile?
>> > > > > > My guess is that's probably Loretta.
>> > > > > That's all you've got?
>> > > > For starters.
>> > > >
>> > > > I know Loretta was often the subject of Zod's art and poetry during that time.
>> > > > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Why might Loretta be smiling? What significance has her possible smile got in relation to the rest of the poem?
>> > >
>> > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
>> > > Why might Loretta be smiling at a white shuttle?
>> > To be honest, I think it's either a sexual or drug reference, maybe both.
>> How so?
>>
>> It doesn't remind me of either.

> Okay, then like I said, figure the poem out for yourself, as I have.

> HTH and HAND.

>> If anything, I'm reminded of the ill-fated space shuttle disaster of 1986....

I don't see that, my interpretation seems more likely to me.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 11:40 UTC

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 7:33:47 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:36:50 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail..com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:29:59 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:25:47 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef....@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:20:51 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:15:22 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef....@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:02:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:43:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Insane Peace
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > In the oaks
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > She might smile.
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Over morning news
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Might fly by night
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Swords and shields
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Volcano lust
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > --Zod
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > ***********
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > I thank you....
> >> > > > > > >> >> > My honest opinion.
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > 🙂
> >> > > > > > >> >> Cool...
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > Enquiring minds, and all that.
> >> > > > > > >> Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Who is the "she" who might smile?
> >> > > > > > My guess is that's probably Loretta.
> >> > > > > That's all you've got?
> >> > > > For starters.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I know Loretta was often the subject of Zod's art and poetry during that time.
> >> > > > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Why might Loretta be smiling? What significance has her possible smile got in relation to the rest of the poem?
> >> > >
> >> > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
> >> > > Why might Loretta be smiling at a white shuttle?
> >> > To be honest, I think it's either a sexual or drug reference, maybe both.
> >> How so?
> >>
> >> It doesn't remind me of either.
>
> > Okay, then like I said, figure the poem out for yourself, as I have.
>
> > HTH and HAND.
> >> If anything, I'm reminded of the ill-fated space shuttle disaster of 1986....
>
> I don't see that, my interpretation seems more likely to me.
>
> HTH and HAND.

That’s only because you don’t speak Danish, or play competitive badminton.

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On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:33:49 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:54:52 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > >
> > > Insane Peace
> > >
> > > I will lose the insanity
> > > In the oaks
> > > For a white shuttle
> > > She might smile.
> > >
> > > While peace makers scowl
> > > Over morning news
> > > Might fly by night
> > > Over the bird lands.
> > >
> > > Swords and shields
> > > Ride interruptions
> > > Volcano lust
> > > Like a slow orgasm.
> > >
> > > -Zod
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > No, you
> >
> > Pendragon's whining snipped>
> >
> > I began to explain what the poem means to me, but since you don't agree, you're on your own, Pendragon, you whining little monkey.
> >
> > HTH and HAND.
> 1) You didn't begin to explain what it means. You merely guessed at the identity of the unnamed "she" it refers to.

I also think the poem has coded references to sex and drugs, which is why "she" was smiling.

HTH and HAND.

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On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 7:46:47 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:33:49 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:54:52 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Insane Peace
> > > >
> > > > I will lose the insanity
> > > > In the oaks
> > > > For a white shuttle
> > > > She might smile.
> > > >
> > > > While peace makers scowl
> > > > Over morning news
> > > > Might fly by night
> > > > Over the bird lands.
> > > >
> > > > Swords and shields
> > > > Ride interruptions
> > > > Volcano lust
> > > > Like a slow orgasm.
> > > >
> > > > -Zod
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > No, you
> > >
> > > Pendragon's whining snipped>
> > >
> > > I began to explain what the poem means to me, but since you don't agree, you're on your own, Pendragon, you whining little monkey.
> > >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > 1) You didn't begin to explain what it means. You merely guessed at the identity of the unnamed "she" it refers to.
> I also think the poem has coded references to sex and drugs, which is why "she" was smiling.
>
> HTH and HAND.

The poem says she might smile. That’s because badminton is not a male dominated sport.
Women play too. Can you tell from the coded references whether or not she used protection?

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Zod wrote:

> On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 5:42:36 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 4:07:09 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Insane Peace
>> > > >
>> > > > I will lose the insanity
>> > > > In the oaks
>> > > > For a white shuttle
>> > > > She might smile.
>> > > >
>> > > > While peace makers scowl
>> > > > Over morning news
>> > > > Might fly by night
>> > > > Over the bird lands.
>> > > >
>> > > > Swords and shields
>> > > > Ride interruptions
>> > > > Volcano lust
>> > > > Like a slow orgasm.
>> > > >
>> > > > --Zod
>> > > >
>> > > > ***********
>> > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
>> > >
>> >
>> > I thank you....
>> My honest opinion.
>>
>>

> Cool...

Perhaps you should explain the poem to Pendragon, he seems really confused this morning.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 13:31 UTC

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 7:33:47 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:36:50 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail..com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:29:59 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:25:47 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef....@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:20:51 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:15:22 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef....@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:02:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:43:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Insane Peace
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > In the oaks
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > She might smile.
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Over morning news
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Might fly by night
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Swords and shields
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Volcano lust
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > --Zod
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > ***********
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > I thank you....
> >> > > > > > >> >> > My honest opinion.
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > 🙂
> >> > > > > > >> >> Cool...
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > Enquiring minds, and all that.
> >> > > > > > >> Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Who is the "she" who might smile?
> >> > > > > > My guess is that's probably Loretta.
> >> > > > > That's all you've got?
> >> > > > For starters.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I know Loretta was often the subject of Zod's art and poetry during that time.
> >> > > > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Why might Loretta be smiling? What significance has her possible smile got in relation to the rest of the poem?
> >> > >
> >> > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
> >> > > Why might Loretta be smiling at a white shuttle?
> >> > To be honest, I think it's either a sexual or drug reference, maybe both.
> >> How so?
> >>
> >> It doesn't remind me of either.
>
> > Okay, then like I said, figure the poem out for yourself, as I have.
>
> > HTH and HAND.
> >> If anything, I'm reminded of the ill-fated space shuttle disaster of 1986....
>
> I don't see that, my interpretation seems more likely to me.
>
> HTH and HAND.

You haven't offered any interpretation, Donkey.

All you've done was to guess at the identity of the woman alluded to in it.

Do you know what giving an interpretation of a poem is? [Rhetorical question alert.]

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 by: W.Dockery - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 14:11 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 7:33:47 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:36:50 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail..com wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:29:59 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:25:47 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef....@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:20:51 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:15:22 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef....@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> > > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:02:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:43:44 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> >> > > > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> >> > > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Insane Peace
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > In the oaks
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > She might smile.
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Over morning news
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Might fly by night
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Swords and shields
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Volcano lust
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > --Zod
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > ***********
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > >
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > I thank you....
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > My honest opinion.
>> >> > > > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > > > >> >> > 🙂
>> >> > > > > > >> >> Cool...
>> >> > > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > > >> > So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?
>> >> > > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > > >> > Enquiring minds, and all that.
>> >> > > > > > >> Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > Who is the "she" who might smile?
>> >> > > > > > My guess is that's probably Loretta.
>> >> > > > > That's all you've got?
>> >> > > > For starters.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I know Loretta was often the subject of Zod's art and poetry during that time.
>> >> > > > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Why might Loretta be smiling? What significance has her possible smile got in relation to the rest of the poem?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
>> >> > > Why might Loretta be smiling at a white shuttle?
>> >> > To be honest, I think it's either a sexual or drug reference, maybe both.
>> >> How so?
>> >>
>> >> It doesn't remind me of either.
>>
>> > Okay, then like I said, figure the poem out for yourself, as I have.
>>
>> > HTH and HAND.
>> >> If anything, I'm reminded of the ill-fated space shuttle disaster of 1986....
>>
>> I don't see that, my interpretation seems more likely to me.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

>

> All you've done was to guess at the identity of the woman alluded to in it

I've also pointed out what appear to be drug and sexual refences in the poem, which is more than you've managed to do, Pendragon, you whining little monkey.

🙂

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 by: W.Dockery - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 16:29 UTC

Spam-I-Am wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 2:12:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:51:59 PM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:46:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 10:12:28 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Insane Peace
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I will lose the insanity
>> > > > > In the oaks
>> > > > > For a white shuttle
>> > > > > She might smile.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > While peace makers scowl
>> > > > > Over morning news
>> > > > > Might fly by night
>> > > > > Over the bird lands.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Swords and shields
>> > > > > Ride interruptions
>> > > > > Volcano lust
>> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --Zod
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ***********
>> > > > Not this one again!
>> > > >
>> > > > Next time you feel the need to masturbate, please confine it to the privacy of your tarp.
>> > >
>> > > Your lack of understanding and appreciation of avant garde poetry is noted, Pendragon, you shit spewing little monkey.
>> > >
>> > > HTH and HAND.
>> > So, if Michael doesn’t understand it, and you won’t explain it like you said you would,
>> It's not my problem if Pendragon has comprehension problems with "modern" or avant garde poetry.
>> > then I may as well mark this thread as spam also. No offense intended, of course.
>> None taken.
>>
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> Mutual comprehension is everybody’s problem.
> It would certainly serve George to have you explain
> his poem to the better understanding of everyone
> reading, not just Michael. That’s what discussion
> groups are intended for, but if you’re content to
> argue back and forth with Michael, then of course
> that’s the reading material you leave for everyone.
> No one benefits from whatever insights you may
> have on a poem written by one of your best friends.

I've given a couple of my observations of the poem, do you agree with them?

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 by: Zod - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 17:13 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:29:59 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:25:47 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:20:51 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > Insane Peace
>> > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > In the oaks
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > She might smile.
>> > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > Over morning news
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > Might fly by night
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
>> > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > Swords and shields
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > Volcano lust
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
>> > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > --Zod
>> > > > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> >> > > > > ***********
>> > > > > >> >> > > > Keep up the great work, Zod.
>> > > > > >> >> > > >
>> > > > > >> >> > >
>> > > > > >> >> > > I thank you....
>> > > > > >> >> > My honest opinion.
>> > > > > >> >> >
>> > > > > >> >> > 🙂
>> > > > > >> >> Cool...
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> > So, General... are you going to keep your promise and tell me what your poem is about?
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> > Enquiring minds, and all that.
>> > > > > >> Yes, what questions do you have about the poem..?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Who is the "she" who might smile?
>> > > > > My guess is that's probably Loretta.
>> > > > That's all you've got?
>> > > For starters.
>> > >
>> > > I know Loretta was often the subject of Zod's art and poetry during that time.
>> > > > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
>> > > >
>> > > > Why might Loretta be smiling? What significance has her possible smile got in relation to the rest of the poem?
>> >
>> > That doesn't tell me much about the poem, does it?
>> > Why might Loretta be smiling at a white shuttle?
>> To be honest, I think it's either a sexual or drug reference, maybe both.

> How so?

> It doesn't remind me of either.

> If anything, I'm reminded of the ill-fated space shuttle disaster of 1986....

Interesting interpretation, I must say...!

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 17:19 UTC

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 1:08:28 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 2:12:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:51:59 PM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:46:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 10:12:28 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef....@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Insane Peace
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
> >> > > > > In the oaks
> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
> >> > > > > She might smile.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
> >> > > > > Over morning news
> >> > > > > Might fly by night
> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Swords and shields
> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
> >> > > > > Volcano lust
> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --Zod
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ***********
> >> > > > Not this one again!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Next time you feel the need to masturbate, please confine it to the privacy of your tarp.
> >> > >
> >> > > Your lack of understanding and appreciation of avant garde poetry is noted, Pendragon, you shit spewing little monkey.
> >> > >
> >> > > HTH and HAND.
> >> > So, if Michael doesn’t understand it, and you won’t explain it like you said you would,
> >> It's not my problem if Pendragon has comprehension problems with "modern" or avant garde poetry.
> >> > then I may as well mark this thread as spam also. No offense intended, of course.
> >> None taken.
> >>
> >>
> >> HTH and HAND.
>
> > Mutual comprehension is everybody’s problem.
> > It would certainly serve George to have you explain
> > his poem to the better understanding of everyone
> > reading, not just Michael. That’s what discussion
> > groups are intended for, but if you’re content to
> > argue back and forth with Michael, then of course
> > that’s the reading material you leave for everyone.
> > No one benefits from whatever insights you may
> > have on a poem written by one of your best friends.
> I've given a couple of my observations of the poem, do you agree with them?

I don’t know Loretta, so I can’t possibly agree that the poem is about her.
I think the word orgasm is an explicit, rather than coded, sexual reference..

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 by: General-Zod - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 17:27 UTC

Spam-I-Am wrote:

> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 1:08:28 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> >> > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 10:12:28 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef....@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>
>> >> > > > > Insane Peace
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > I will lose the insanity
>> >> > > > > In the oaks
>> >> > > > > For a white shuttle
>> >> > > > > She might smile.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > While peace makers scowl
>> >> > > > > Over morning news
>> >> > > > > Might fly by night
>> >> > > > > Over the bird lands.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Swords and shields
>> >> > > > > Ride interruptions
>> >> > > > > Volcano lust
>> >> > > > > Like a slow orgasm.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > --Zod
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > ***********
>> >> > > > Not this one again!
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Next time you feel the need to masturbate, please confine it to the privacy of your tarp.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Your lack of understanding and appreciation of avant garde poetry is noted, Pendragon, you shit spewing little monkey.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > HTH and HAND.
>> >> > So, if Michael doesn’t understand it, and you won’t explain it like you said you would,
>> >> It's not my problem if Pendragon has comprehension problems with "modern" or avant garde poetry.
>> >> > then I may as well mark this thread as spam also. No offense intended, of course.
>> >> None taken.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> HTH and HAND.
>>
>> > Mutual comprehension is everybody’s problem.
>> > It would certainly serve George to have you explain
>> > his poem to the better understanding of everyone
>> > reading, not just Michael. That’s what discussion
>> > groups are intended for, but if you’re content to
>> > argue back and forth with Michael, then of course
>> > that’s the reading material you leave for everyone.
>> > No one benefits from whatever insights you may
>> > have on a poem written by one of your best friends.
>> I've given a couple of my observations of the poem, do you agree with them?

> I don’t know Loretta, so I can’t possibly agree that the poem is about her.
> I think the word orgasm is an explicit, rather than coded, sexual reference..

I will not specifically name a person, whether this poem is or is not about a certain person, out of respect for her privacy...!

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