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by: BTR1701 - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 04:59 UTC

In article <CpLwL.313763$MVg8.150715@fx12.iad>,
moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

> On 1/14/2023 6:18 PM, RichA wrote:
> > The backpedding is incalculable. "We turned over everything immediately!!"
> > "EXCEPT WE KNEW ABOUT IT IN OCTOBER!!!"
>
> Yes, part of the reason they had them may have been that they didn't
> *know* they had them.

Uh-huh.

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by: trotsky - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 10:15 UTC

On 1/14/23 10:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <CpLwL.313763$MVg8.150715@fx12.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/14/2023 6:18 PM, RichA wrote:
>>> The backpedding is incalculable. "We turned over everything immediately!!"
>>> "EXCEPT WE KNEW ABOUT IT IN OCTOBER!!!"
>>
>> Yes, part of the reason they had them may have been that they didn't
>> *know* they had them.
>
> Uh-huh.

You've been warned about false equivalences hundreds of times by now.

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by: NoBody - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 15:41 UTC

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 23:36:50 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
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>On 1/14/2023 6:18 PM, RichA wrote:
>> The backpedding is incalculable. "We turned over everything immediately!!"
>> "EXCEPT WE KNEW ABOUT IT IN OCTOBER!!!"
>
>Yes, part of the reason they had them may have been that they didn't
>*know* they had them.
>

You're actually buying this excuse?

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by: NoBody - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 15:56 UTC

On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:10:19 -0600, super70s
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>You could probably find classified docs packed away in Carter's,
>Clinton's, W. Bush's and Obama's homes if you looked hard enough and
>that none of them knew anything about.
>

Are we really that careless with classified documents now? Libs were
fine with Sandi Berger stuffing them in his pants too....

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by: moviePig - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 16:15 UTC

On 1/15/2023 10:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:10:19 -0600, super70s
> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>
>> You could probably find classified docs packed away in Carter's,
>> Clinton's, W. Bush's and Obama's homes if you looked hard enough and
>> that none of them knew anything about.
>>
>
> Are we really that careless with classified documents now? Libs were
> fine with Sandi Berger stuffing them in his pants too....

Yes. Given the apparent proliferation of classified documents and ease
of classifying them, such "carelessness" is practically inevitable.

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by: chromebook test - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 16:38 UTC

On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 11:15:06 AM UTC-5, moviePig wrote:
> On 1/15/2023 10:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:10:19 -0600, super70s
> > <supe...@super70s.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> You could probably find classified docs packed away in Carter's,
> >> Clinton's, W. Bush's and Obama's homes if you looked hard enough and
> >> that none of them knew anything about.
> >>
> >
> > Are we really that careless with classified documents now? Libs were
> > fine with Sandi Berger stuffing them in his pants too....

> Yes. Given the apparent proliferation of classified documents and ease
> of classifying them, such "carelessness" is practically inevitable.

Not if the classified documents involve Dealey Plaza.

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by: moviePig - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 16:56 UTC

On 1/15/2023 11:38 AM, chromebook test wrote:
> On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 11:15:06 AM UTC-5, moviePig wrote:
>> On 1/15/2023 10:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:10:19 -0600, super70s
>>> <supe...@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You could probably find classified docs packed away in Carter's,
>>>> Clinton's, W. Bush's and Obama's homes if you looked hard enough and
>>>> that none of them knew anything about.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are we really that careless with classified documents now? Libs were
>>> fine with Sandi Berger stuffing them in his pants too....
>
>> Yes. Given the apparent proliferation of classified documents and ease
>> of classifying them, such "carelessness" is practically inevitable.
>
> Not if the classified documents involve Dealey Plaza.

For select topics, cauterizing carelessness further discourages it.

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by: chromebook test - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 17:08 UTC

On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 11:56:49 AM UTC-5, moviePig wrote:
> On 1/15/2023 11:38 AM, chromebook test wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 11:15:06 AM UTC-5, moviePig wrote:
> >> On 1/15/2023 10:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:10:19 -0600, super70s
> >>> <supe...@super70s.invalid> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You could probably find classified docs packed away in Carter's,
> >>>> Clinton's, W. Bush's and Obama's homes if you looked hard enough and
> >>>> that none of them knew anything about.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Are we really that careless with classified documents now? Libs were
> >>> fine with Sandi Berger stuffing them in his pants too....

> >> Yes. Given the apparent proliferation of classified documents and ease
> >> of classifying them, such "carelessness" is practically inevitable.

> > Not if the classified documents involve Dealey Plaza.

> For select topics, cauterizing carelessness further discourages it.

For 60 years even after US law demands unclassification.

-------

Sandy Bergers' 'hard drive' was never found. The 911 docs it contained are gone forever

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Berger#Unauthorized_removal_and_destruction_of_classified_material

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by: The Horny Goat - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 22:27 UTC

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 20:59:28 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <CpLwL.313763$MVg8.150715@fx12.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/14/2023 6:18 PM, RichA wrote:
>> > The backpedding is incalculable. "We turned over everything immediately!!"
>> > "EXCEPT WE KNEW ABOUT IT IN OCTOBER!!!"
>>
>> Yes, part of the reason they had them may have been that they didn't
>> *know* they had them.
>
>Uh-huh.

So the suggestion is "what did he know and when did he know it?"

That didn't carry much weight 50 years ago during Watergate nor should
it now.

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by: The Horny Goat - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 22:28 UTC

On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 11:56:44 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
wrote:

>On 1/15/2023 11:38 AM, chromebook test wrote:
>> On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 11:15:06 AM UTC-5, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 1/15/2023 10:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:10:19 -0600, super70s
>>>> <supe...@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You could probably find classified docs packed away in Carter's,
>>>>> Clinton's, W. Bush's and Obama's homes if you looked hard enough and
>>>>> that none of them knew anything about.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are we really that careless with classified documents now? Libs were
>>>> fine with Sandi Berger stuffing them in his pants too....
>>
>>> Yes. Given the apparent proliferation of classified documents and ease
>>> of classifying them, such "carelessness" is practically inevitable.
>>
>> Not if the classified documents involve Dealey Plaza.
>
>For select topics, cauterizing carelessness further discourages it.
>
Given the suggestion was that they were carried in pants "cauterizing"
sounds quite painful!

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by: trotsky - Mon, 16 Jan 2023 09:45 UTC

On 1/15/23 10:15 AM, moviePig wrote:
> On 1/15/2023 10:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:10:19 -0600, super70s
>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> You could probably find classified docs packed away in Carter's,
>>> Clinton's, W. Bush's and Obama's homes if you looked hard enough and
>>> that none of them knew anything about.
>>>
>>
>> Are we really that careless with classified documents now? Libs were
>> fine with Sandi Berger stuffing them in his pants too....
>
> Yes. Given the apparent proliferation of classified documents and ease
> of classifying them, such "carelessness" is practically inevitable.

I don't know why people are too stupid to make the distinction between
classified and Top Secret.

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by: NoBody - Mon, 16 Jan 2023 12:10 UTC

On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 11:15:00 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
wrote:

>On 1/15/2023 10:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:10:19 -0600, super70s
>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> You could probably find classified docs packed away in Carter's,
>>> Clinton's, W. Bush's and Obama's homes if you looked hard enough and
>>> that none of them knew anything about.
>>>
>>
>> Are we really that careless with classified documents now? Libs were
>> fine with Sandi Berger stuffing them in his pants too....
>
>Yes. Given the apparent proliferation of classified documents and ease
>of classifying them, such "carelessness" is practically inevitable.
>

Have you ever been in a secure document room? It's not as simple as
you're trying to make it. Walking off with classifiied documents
requires actual intent.

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by: NoBody - Mon, 16 Jan 2023 12:12 UTC

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 03:45:20 -0600, trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:

>On 1/15/23 10:15 AM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 1/15/2023 10:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:10:19 -0600, super70s
>>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You could probably find classified docs packed away in Carter's,
>>>> Clinton's, W. Bush's and Obama's homes if you looked hard enough and
>>>> that none of them knew anything about.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are we really that careless with classified documents now? Libs were
>>> fine with Sandi Berger stuffing them in his pants too....
>>
>> Yes. Given the apparent proliferation of classified documents and ease
>> of classifying them, such "carelessness" is practically inevitable.
>
>
>I don't know why people are too stupid to make the distinction between
>classified and Top Secret.

I don't know why people are too stupid to understand that Vice
Presidents are allowed to have either one of them outside secure
locations.

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by: trotsky - Mon, 16 Jan 2023 12:45 UTC

On 1/16/23 6:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 03:45:20 -0600, trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/15/23 10:15 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 1/15/2023 10:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:10:19 -0600, super70s
>>>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You could probably find classified docs packed away in Carter's,
>>>>> Clinton's, W. Bush's and Obama's homes if you looked hard enough and
>>>>> that none of them knew anything about.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are we really that careless with classified documents now? Libs were
>>>> fine with Sandi Berger stuffing them in his pants too....
>>>
>>> Yes. Given the apparent proliferation of classified documents and ease
>>> of classifying them, such "carelessness" is practically inevitable.
>>
>>
>> I don't know why people are too stupid to make the distinction between
>> classified and Top Secret.
>
> I don't know why people are too stupid to understand that Vice
> Presidents are allowed to have either one of them outside secure
> locations.

Anonyshit alert.

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by: moviePig - Mon, 16 Jan 2023 15:28 UTC

On 1/16/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 11:15:00 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/15/2023 10:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:10:19 -0600, super70s
>>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You could probably find classified docs packed away in Carter's,
>>>> Clinton's, W. Bush's and Obama's homes if you looked hard enough and
>>>> that none of them knew anything about.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are we really that careless with classified documents now? Libs were
>>> fine with Sandi Berger stuffing them in his pants too....
>>
>> Yes. Given the apparent proliferation of classified documents and ease
>> of classifying them, such "carelessness" is practically inevitable.
>>
>
> Have you ever been in a secure document room? It's not as simple as
> you're trying to make it. Walking off with classifiied documents
> requires actual intent.

We're not talking about 'intent', but 'indifference'.

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by: super70s - Mon, 16 Jan 2023 20:29 UTC

In article <9EVwL.151910$t5W7.123543@fx13.iad>,
moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

> On 1/15/2023 10:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:10:19 -0600, super70s
> > <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> You could probably find classified docs packed away in Carter's,
> >> Clinton's, W. Bush's and Obama's homes if you looked hard enough and
> >> that none of them knew anything about.
> >>
> >
> > Are we really that careless with classified documents now? Libs were
> > fine with Sandi Berger stuffing them in his pants too....
>
> Yes. Given the apparent proliferation of classified documents and ease
> of classifying them, such "carelessness" is practically inevitable.

Right, people knowledgeable about this say there's no downside to
classifying stuff so the bureaucrats tend to go overboard with it.

Subject	Author
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day	moviePig
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day later: "Er	BTR1701
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day	trotsky
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day later: "Er	super70s
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day later: "Er	NoBody
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day	moviePig
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day	chromebook test
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day	moviePig
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day	chromebook test
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day later: "Er	The Horny Goat
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day	trotsky
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day later: "Er	NoBody
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day	trotsky
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day later: "Er	NoBody
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day	moviePig
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day later: "Er	super70s
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day later: "Er	The Horny Goat
Re: White House: "We only found ONE document in Biden's room!!" 1 day later: "Er	NoBody