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by: Will Dockery - Sat, 10 Sep 2022 05:02 UTC

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:51 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:51:26 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
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> > Like I said, if the viewer doesn't know, say, French or German, he reads the subtitles.
> >
> > That doesn't seem so difficult to understand, unless you're a shit eating little monkey like Michael Pendragon.
>
> Well you're just a simple America-centric

Not really, but English is the only language I read/speak.

> So reading a movie like a comic and ignoring the voices of the actors

I don't ignore them, but if I don't speak the language I need to read the subtitles.

HTH and HAND.

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by: Michael Pendragon - Sat, 10 Sep 2022 06:49 UTC

On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:02:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:51 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:51:26 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > Like I said, if the viewer doesn't know, say, French or German, he reads the subtitles.
> > >
> > > That doesn't seem so difficult to understand, unless you're a shit eating little monkey like Michael Pendragon.
> >
> > Well you're just a simple America-centric
> Not really, but English is the only language I read/speak.
> > So reading a movie like a comic and ignoring the voices of the actors
> I don't ignore them, but if I don't speak the language I need to read the subtitles.

Have you really missed the point... again?

Film is all about the interplay of moving images, light, darkness, and sound. If you're "reading" a foreign film "like a comic book," you are only experiencing it as a series of still images and written words.

Damn, but you're one dumbassed mofo of a Donkey!

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by: Victor H. - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 22:31 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:51 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:51:26 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> > Like I said, if the viewer doesn't know, say, French or German, he reads the subtitles.
>> >
>> > That doesn't seem so difficult to understand, unless you're a shit eating little monkey like Michael Pendragon.
>>
>> Well you're just a simple America-centric

> Not really, but English is the only language I read/speak.

>> So reading a movie like a comic and ignoring the voices of the actors

> I don't ignore them, but if I don't speak the language I need to read the subtitles.

> HTH and HAND.

Yep... that is correct...

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Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:02:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:51 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> > On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:51:26 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> > > Like I said, if the viewer doesn't know, say, French or German, he reads the subtitles.
>> > >
>> > > That doesn't seem so difficult to understand, unless you're a shit eating little monkey like Michael Pendragon.
>> >
>> > Well you're just a simple America-centric
>> Not really, but English is the only language I read/speak.
>> > So reading a movie like a comic and ignoring the voices of the actors
>> I don't ignore them, but if I don't speak the language I need to read the subtitles.

> Film is all about the interplay of moving images, light, darkness, and sound. If you're "reading" a foreign film "like a comic book," you are only experiencing it as a series of still images and written words.

No, the subtitles don't interfere with the film, they're there to understand what the characters are saying.

HTH and HAND.

> Michael Pendragon
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by: Victor H. - Thu, 29 Sep 2022 19:58 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> > Like I said, if the viewer doesn't know, say, French or German, he reads the subtitles.
>> >
>> > That doesn't seem so difficult to understand, unless you're a shit eating little monkey like Michael Pendragon.
>>
>> Well you're just a simple America-centric

> Not really, but English is the only language I read/speak.

>> So reading a movie like a comic and ignoring the voices of the actors

> I don't ignore them, but if I don't speak the language I need to read the subtitles.

> HTH and HAND.

Quite obviously....!

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by: Michael Pendragon - Fri, 30 Sep 2022 01:24 UTC

On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:10:32 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:02:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:51 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> > On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:51:26 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Like I said, if the viewer doesn't know, say, French or German, he reads the subtitles.
> >> > >
> >> > > That doesn't seem so difficult to understand, unless you're a shit eating little monkey like Michael Pendragon.
> >> >
> >> > Well you're just a simple America-centric
> >> Not really, but English is the only language I read/speak.
> >> > So reading a movie like a comic and ignoring the voices of the actors
> >> I don't ignore them, but if I don't speak the language I need to read the subtitles.
>
> >
> > Film is all about the interplay of moving images, light, darkness, and sound. If you're "reading" a foreign film "like a comic book," you are only experiencing it as a series of still images and written words.
>
> No, the subtitles don't interfere with the film, they're there to understand what the characters are saying.

No one said that they did, Donkey. Learn to read.

I said that if you're "reading a film like a comic book," you are missing out on numerous aspects of the film that do no have a corresponding element in comic books.

You're also missing out on the transubstantiative aspect of the film experience ("a dream that makes one dream"), because comic books are not as immersive, do not share the moving images/sounds of the dream experience, and (unlike dreams) can be picked up and put down at will.

Michael Pendragon
"Another example of a poem that crosses inia dream or alternate rest."
-- Will Donkey, dreaming inia alternate rest stop.

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by: Michael Pendragon - Fri, 30 Sep 2022 12:52 UTC

On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 3:34:23 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> No, Pendragon, haven't you ever watched a foreign movie while reading the subtitles?

Yes. However, I watched it as a film. I didn't read it like a comic book.

Therein lies a world of difference.

Michael Pendragon
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General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> I don't ignore them, but if I don't speak the language I need to read the subtitles.

> Seems simple enough for any to understand...

Except, of course, for a shit eating little monkey motherfucker like Michael Pendragon.

And so it goes.

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by: Will Dockery - Sat, 1 Oct 2022 03:44 UTC

On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 8:52:30 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 3:34:23 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
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> > No, Pendragon, haven't you ever watched a foreign movie while reading the subtitles?
> Yes. However, I watched it as a film. I didn't read it like a comic book.

So you admit you read the subtitles also.

> Therein lies a world of difference.

Only in your confused monkey brain, Pendragon.

> Michael Pendragon
> "Who doesn't love a waffle?"
> -- Will Donkey, waffle junkie

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by: W-Dockery - Sat, 1 Oct 2022 15:25 UTC

jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 11:45:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 11:36:35 PM UTC-4, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Servant_(1963_film)
>>
>> Good evening, Jordy, good choice.
> thanks, Will, superb, excellent film, Imo...

Hello my friend, I watched "BREXIT: The Uncivil War" last night, Benedict Cumberbatch was excellent as Dominic Cummings.

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by: Michael Pendragon - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 13:44 UTC

On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 11:44:13 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 8:52:30 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 3:34:23 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > No, Pendragon, haven't you ever watched a foreign movie while reading the subtitles?
> > Yes. However, I watched it as a film. I didn't read it like a comic book.
> So you admit you read the subtitles also.

Everyone reads the subtitles, Donkey.

Most of as read them as we would read motion picture subtitles -- not as we would read a comic book.

If you watch a film/read subtitles the way that you would read a comic book, you obviously haven't the faintest understanding of how the cinematic medium works.

Michael Pendragon
"I do go in for the childish name-calling."
-- Will Dockery in a rare moment of self-acknowledgement

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by: General-Zod - Thu, 6 Oct 2022 20:55 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> Have you really missed the point... again?

> Film is all about the interplay of moving images, light, darkness, and sound. If you're "reading" a foreign film "like a comic book,"

The words, you silly little man, the words... NOT the movie itself....!!

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by: Michael Pendragon - Fri, 7 Oct 2022 02:50 UTC

On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 9:50:13 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:02:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:51 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> > On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:51:26 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Like I said, if the viewer doesn't know, say, French or German, he reads the subtitles.
> >> > >
> >> > > That doesn't seem so difficult to understand, unless you're a shit eating little monkey like Michael Pendragon.
> >> >
> >> > Well you're just a simple America-centric
> >> Not really, but English is the only language I read/speak.
> >> > So reading a movie like a comic and ignoring the voices of the actors
> >> I don't ignore them, but if I don't speak the language I need to read the subtitles.
> > Have you really missed the point... again?
> > Film is all about the interplay of moving images, light, darkness, and sound. If you're "reading" a foreign film "like a comic book,"
> The words, you silly little man, the words... NOT the movie itself....!!

1) That isn't what you said, you silly little pile of human filth.
2) Why would you read it like a comic book and not like a subtitle?

Words matter, you perpetually sodden ignoramus.

Learn how to use them correctly.

-- Michael Pendragon

Die Stink, die.
Stop stinking up the place
Cover your ugly face
With sod so foul that only brambles dare
Take root atop its filth. Your grizzled hair
Long home to ticks and fleas
Shall be the straw where graveworms make their bed;
The earth repels you like some rank disease
The sun shines brighter knowing that you're dead
And songbird choirs echo "Die Stink, die."

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by: Will Dockery - Fri, 7 Oct 2022 03:00 UTC

Exactly.

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by: Michael Pendragon - Fri, 7 Oct 2022 03:27 UTC

On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 11:00:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 9:50:13 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:02:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:51 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > >> > On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:51:26 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Like I said, if the viewer doesn't know, say, French or German, he reads the subtitles.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > That doesn't seem so difficult to understand, unless you're a shit eating little monkey like Michael Pendragon.
> > >> >
> > >> > Well you're just a simple America-centric
> > >> Not really, but English is the only language I read/speak.
> > >> > So reading a movie like a comic and ignoring the voices of the actors
> > >> I don't ignore them, but if I don't speak the language I need to read the subtitles.
> > > Have you really missed the point... again?
> > > Film is all about the interplay of moving images, light, darkness, and sound. If you're "reading" a foreign film "like a comic book,"
> > The words, you silly little man, the words... NOT the movie itself....!!
> Exactly.

If you want to read movies like comic books, that's your business, Donkey.

Go read a movie and leave AAPC to the your betters.

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Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 11:00:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 9:50:13 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:02:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > >> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:51 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> > >> > On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:51:26 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > Like I said, if the viewer doesn't know, say, French or German, he reads the subtitles.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > That doesn't seem so difficult to understand, unless you're a shit eating little monkey like Michael Pendragon.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Well you're just a simple America-centric
>> > >> Not really, but English is the only language I read/speak.
>> > >> > So reading a movie like a comic and ignoring the voices of the actors
>> > >> I don't ignore them, but if I don't speak the language I need to read the subtitles.
>> > > Have you really missed the point... again?
>> > > Film is all about the interplay of moving images, light, darkness, and sound. If you're "reading" a foreign film "like a comic book,"
>> > The words, you silly little man, the words... NOT the movie itself....!!
>> Exactly.

> If you want to read movies like comic books

The same concept applies to silent films, as well.

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by: Michael Pendragon - Fri, 7 Oct 2022 12:59 UTC

On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 4:40:48 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 11:00:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 9:50:13 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> >> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:02:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > >> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:51 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> > >> > On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:51:26 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > Like I said, if the viewer doesn't know, say, French or German, he reads the subtitles.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > That doesn't seem so difficult to understand, unless you're a shit eating little monkey like Michael Pendragon.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Well you're just a simple America-centric
> >> > >> Not really, but English is the only language I read/speak.
> >> > >> > So reading a movie like a comic and ignoring the voices of the actors
> >> > >> I don't ignore them, but if I don't speak the language I need to read the subtitles.
> >> > > Have you really missed the point... again?
> >> > > Film is all about the interplay of moving images, light, darkness, and sound. If you're "reading" a foreign film "like a comic book,"
> >> > The words, you silly little man, the words... NOT the movie itself....!!
> >> Exactly.
>
> > If you want to read movies like comic books
> The same concept applies to silent films, as well.

Your ignorance is almost as astounding as the idiotic sense of pride you take in wallowing in it.

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by: Will Dockery - Fri, 7 Oct 2022 13:18 UTC

On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 8:59:40 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 4:40:48 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 11:00:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 9:50:13 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > >> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:02:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > >> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:51 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > >> > >> > On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 7:51:26 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > > Like I said, if the viewer doesn't know, say, French or German, he reads the subtitles.
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > That doesn't seem so difficult to understand, unless you're a shit eating little monkey like Michael Pendragon.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Well you're just a simple America-centric
> > >> > >> Not really, but English is the only language I read/speak.
> > >> > >> > So reading a movie like a comic and ignoring the voices of the actors
> > >> > >> I don't ignore them, but if I don't speak the language I need to read the subtitles.
> > >> > > Have you really missed the point... again?
> > >> > > Film is all about the interplay of moving images, light, darkness, and sound. If you're "reading" a foreign film "like a comic book,"
> > >> > The words, you silly little man, the words... NOT the movie itself....!!
> > >> Exactly.
> >
> > > If you want to read movies like comic books
> > The same concept applies to silent films, as well.
> Your ignorance

Says Michael Pendragon, the delusional little monkey who thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot.

And so it goes.

is almost as astounding as the idiotic sense of pride you take in wallowing in it.

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Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Will Dockery
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Michael Pendragon
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	W-Dockery
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Michael Pendragon
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	W.Dockery
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Michael Pendragon
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Will Dockery
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Michael Pendragon
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	jdcha...@gmail.com
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Will Dockery
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	jdcha...@gmail.com
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	W-Dockery
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	General-Zod
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Michael Pendragon
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Will Dockery
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Michael Pendragon
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	W.Dockery
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Michael Pendragon
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Will Dockery
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Michael Pendragon
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	W-Dockery
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Michael Pendragon
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	W-Dockery
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	General-Zod
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Will Dockery
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	W-Dockery
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Victor H.
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Victor H.
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	W-Dockery
Re: Subtitles in Motion Pictures	Victor H.