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 by: Ian J. Ball - Tue, 31 Jan 2023 17:57 UTC

As per THR:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unveils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/

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Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
> As per THR:
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unveils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/
>
>

Well at least they kicked Berlanti to the curb.

But everything else sounds pretty dire.

Whatever happened to the fat Muslim Supergirl?

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 by: Ian J. Ball - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 00:51 UTC

On 2023-01-31 23:55:59 +0000, anim8rfsk said:

> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>> As per THR:
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unveils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/
>>
>
> Well at least they kicked Berlanti to the curb.
>
> But everything else sounds pretty dire.
>
> Whatever happened to the fat Muslim Supergirl?

I'm concerned that there seems to be no mention of second season of
"Peacemaker" anywhere in there...

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 by: shawn - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 02:36 UTC

On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 16:51:10 -0800, Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid>
wrote:

>On 2023-01-31 23:55:59 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
>
>> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>> As per THR:
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unveils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/
>>>
>>
>> Well at least they kicked Berlanti to the curb.
>>
>> But everything else sounds pretty dire.
>>
>> Whatever happened to the fat Muslim Supergirl?
>
>I'm concerned that there seems to be no mention of second season of
>"Peacemaker" anywhere in there...

Sounds like he is a bit too busy for PEACEMAKER right now. Maybe once
he finishes that other show he is currently working on.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 05:12 UTC

anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>> As per THR:
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unveils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/
>>
>>
>
> Well at least they kicked Berlanti to the curb.
>
> But everything else sounds pretty dire.
>
> Whatever happened to the fat Muslim Supergirl?
>

Here we go. She was supposed to be in the fastest child molester alive
movie that was supposedly released for months ago.

https://www.supermanhomepage.com/sasha-calle-flies-as-supergirl-in-footage-from-london/amp/Call

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 by: shawn - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 07:01 UTC

On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 22:12:19 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>> As per THR:
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unveils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well at least they kicked Berlanti to the curb.
>>
>> But everything else sounds pretty dire.
>>
>> Whatever happened to the fat Muslim Supergirl?
>>
>
>Here we go. She was supposed to be in the fastest child molester alive
>movie that was supposedly released for months ago.
>
>https://www.supermanhomepage.com/sasha-calle-flies-as-supergirl-in-footage-from-london/amp/Call

Not sure why but your link didn't work but this shorter one does work.

https://www.supermanhomepage.com/sasha-calle-flies-as-supergirl-in-footage-from-london/

Though even James Gunn doesn't seem to know if Calle will continue on
as Supergirl or if she will be replaced in future movies. There will
definitely be some digital editing of her butt or else people will be
asking what the battery pack is doing inside her suit.

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shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 22:12:19 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>> As per THR:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unveils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well at least they kicked Berlanti to the curb.
>>>
>>> But everything else sounds pretty dire.
>>>
>>> Whatever happened to the fat Muslim Supergirl?
>>>
>>
>> Here we go. She was supposed to be in the fastest child molester alive
>> movie that was supposedly released for months ago.
>>
>> https://www.supermanhomepage.com/sasha-calle-flies-as-supergirl-in-footage-from-london/amp/Call" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.supermanhomepage.com/sasha-calle-flies-as-supergirl-in-footage-from-london/amp/Call
>
> Not sure why but your link didn't work but this shorter one does work.
>
> https://www.supermanhomepage.com/sasha-calle-flies-as-supergirl-in-footage-from-london/

Thanks. That is indeed the same page.

>
> Though even James Gunn doesn't seem to know if Calle will continue on
> as Supergirl or if she will be replaced in future movies. There will
> definitely be some digital editing of her butt or else people will be
> asking what the battery pack is doing inside her suit.
>

I’m guessing they think the Cape will cover a multitude of sins. But
they’re going to end up having to do a CGI body replacement on her from any
angle.

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anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:

>> As per THR:
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unveils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/
>
>Well at least they kicked Berlanti to the curb.

Yay!

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 by: shawn - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 13:34 UTC

On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 01:18:44 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 22:12:19 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> As per THR:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unveils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well at least they kicked Berlanti to the curb.
>>>>
>>>> But everything else sounds pretty dire.
>>>>
>>>> Whatever happened to the fat Muslim Supergirl?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Here we go. She was supposed to be in the fastest child molester alive
>>> movie that was supposedly released for months ago.
>>>
>>> https://www.supermanhomepage.com/sasha-calle-flies-as-supergirl-in-footage-from-london/amp/Call" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.supermanhomepage.com/sasha-calle-flies-as-supergirl-in-footage-from-london/amp/Call
>>
>> Not sure why but your link didn't work but this shorter one does work.
>>
>> https://www.supermanhomepage.com/sasha-calle-flies-as-supergirl-in-footage-from-london/
>
>Thanks. That is indeed the same page.
>
>
>>
>> Though even James Gunn doesn't seem to know if Calle will continue on
>> as Supergirl or if she will be replaced in future movies. There will
>> definitely be some digital editing of her butt or else people will be
>> asking what the battery pack is doing inside her suit.
>>
>
>I’m guessing they think the Cape will cover a multitude of sins. But
>they’re going to end up having to do a CGI body replacement on her from any
>angle.

Only because that suit bunches up in all sorts of strange ways due to
the support needed for the wire work. Certainly not because of her
weight as she's no where near fat.

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On Jan 31, 2023 at 3:55:59 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>> As per THR:
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unveils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/
>>
>>
>
> Well at least they kicked Berlanti to the curb.
>
> But everything else sounds pretty dire.
>
> Whatever happened to the fat Muslim Supergirl?

Betcha when you were a kid and reading the Flash comics, you never envisioned
this weirdo would be the face of the Flash when they made a movie about him.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F0AC/production/_124221616_gettyimages-1182424052.jpg.webp

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On Jan 31, 2023 at 9:12:19 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>> As per THR:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unveils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well at least they kicked Berlanti to the curb.
>>
>> But everything else sounds pretty dire.
>>
>> Whatever happened to the fat Muslim Supergirl?
>>
>
> Here we go. She was supposed to be in the fastest child molester alive
> movie that was supposedly released for months ago.
>
>
> https://www.supermanhomepage.com/sasha-calle-flies-as-supergirl-in-footage-from-london/amp/Call

Wow, they really are on a mission to make these characters as androgynous and
unattractive as possible to anyone who isn't LGBTLMNOP@(*$^, aren't they? A
Flash that acts like a girl half the time and now a Supergirl who looks like a
pudgy boy and will probably be some kind of gender-queer mis-mash of
sexualities.

Superman will probably now be a black trans-testicle Muslim, which is why they
had to fire Cavill-- way too normal for a modern Hollywood leading 'it'. And
they had to shelve BATGIRL because the movie was 'unreleasable'-- which likely
means it was way too traditional and didn't utterly destroy the character as
people have known it for decades.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Thu, 2 Feb 2023 21:42 UTC

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> On Jan 31, 2023 at 3:55:59 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>> As per THR:
>>>
>>>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unveils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well at least they kicked Berlanti to the curb.
>>
>> But everything else sounds pretty dire.
>>
>> Whatever happened to the fat Muslim Supergirl?
>
> Betcha when you were a kid and reading the Flash comics, you never envisioned
this weirdo would be the face of the Flash when they made a movie about
him.
>
>
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F0AC/production/_124221616_gettyimages-1182424052.jpg.webp
>

>

I can’t place her, but that picture looks like some actress that Ian likes

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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> On Jan 31, 2023 at 9:12:19 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>> As per THR:
>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unveils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well at least they kicked Berlanti to the curb.
>>>
>>> But everything else sounds pretty dire.
>>>
>>> Whatever happened to the fat Muslim Supergirl?
>>>
>>
>> Here we go. She was supposed to be in the fastest child molester alive
>> movie that was supposedly released for months ago.
>>
>>> https://www.supermanhomepage.com/sasha-calle-flies-as-supergirl-in-footage-from-london/amp/Call
>
> Wow, they really are on a mission to make these characters as androgynous and
unattractive as possible to anyone who isn't LGBTLMNOP@(*$^, aren't they? A
Flash that acts like a girl half the time and now a Supergirl who looks
like a
pudgy boy and will probably be some kind of gender-queer mis-mash of
sexualities.
>
> Superman will probably now be a black trans-testicle Muslim,

That was my first thought

I wonder if Nick cage still wants the job?

which is why they
had to fire Cavill-- way too normal for a modern Hollywood leading 'it'.
And
they had to shelve BATGIRL because the movie was 'unreleasable'-- which
likely
means it was way too traditional and didn't utterly destroy the character
as
people have known it for decades.
>

Given that they are now years out from having any new product they
should’ve just released it anyway.

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In article
<615372247.697066826.292467.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 31, 2023 at 9:12:19 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >>> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
> >>>> As per THR:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unv
> >>>>>>> eils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Well at least they kicked Berlanti to the curb.
> >>>
> >>> But everything else sounds pretty dire.
> >>>
> >>> Whatever happened to the fat Muslim Supergirl?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Here we go. She was supposed to be in the fastest child molester alive
> >> movie that was supposedly released for months ago.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> https://www.supermanhomepage.com/sasha-calle-flies-as-supergirl-in-footage-
> >>> from-london/amp/Call
> >
> > Wow, they really are on a mission to make these characters as
> > androgynous and unattractive as possible to anyone who isn't
> > LGBTLMNOP@(*$^, aren't they? A Flash that acts like a girl half the
> > time and now a Supergirl who looks like a pudgy boy and will
> > probably be some kind of gender-queer mis-mash of sexualities.
> >
> > Superman will probably now be a black trans-testicle Muslim,
>
> That was my first thought
>
> I wonder if Nick cage still wants the job?

This sudden and very odd fascination with testicles aside, there is
already a black Superman in the DCU. I think that he's also the
president of the United States on his alternate Earth. That would be
one hell of a weird movie, but they already have all the sets.

> which is why they had to fire Cavill-- way too normal for a modern
> Hollywood leading 'it'. And they had to shelve BATGIRL because the
> movie was 'unreleasable'-- which likely means it was way too
> traditional and didn't utterly destroy the character as people have
> known it for decades.
> >
>
> Given that they are now years out from having any new product they
> should¹ve just released it anyway.

I agree with that. People would go, no matter what. I think this is a
tax thing. Accordingly, they have to pretend the film was a dead loss.

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A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
> In article
> <615372247.697066826.292467.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> On Jan 31, 2023 at 9:12:19 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> Ian J. Ball <IJBall@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> As per THR:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-gunn-unv
>>>>>>>>> eils-dc-slate-batman-superman-1235314176/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well at least they kicked Berlanti to the curb.
>>>>>
>>>>> But everything else sounds pretty dire.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever happened to the fat Muslim Supergirl?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here we go. She was supposed to be in the fastest child molester alive
>>>> movie that was supposedly released for months ago.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.supermanhomepage.com/sasha-calle-flies-as-supergirl-in-footage-
>>>>> from-london/amp/Call
>>>
>>> Wow, they really are on a mission to make these characters as
>>> androgynous and unattractive as possible to anyone who isn't
>>> LGBTLMNOP@(*$^, aren't they? A Flash that acts like a girl half the
>>> time and now a Supergirl who looks like a pudgy boy and will
>>> probably be some kind of gender-queer mis-mash of sexualities.
>>>
>>> Superman will probably now be a black trans-testicle Muslim,
>>
>> That was my first thought
>>
>> I wonder if Nick cage still wants the job?
>
>
> This sudden and very odd fascination with testicles aside, there is
> already a black Superman in the DCU. I think that he's also the
> president of the United States on his alternate Earth. That would be
> one hell of a weird movie, but they already have all the sets.
>

The black guy who lives in the Kent’s barn on SUPERMAN, AND LAMEASS is an
alternate somebody from another reality. Of course, they all keep insisting
there are no other realities. When they have at least a dozen alternate
realities, I can think of after they kit bashed them all into one in the
crisis.

Superman and Lois
Super girl (she actually has two because they changed one in about the
third to last episode)
Doom patrol(they also have two because they officially decided the
re-casting of the lead became an alternate reality)
Titans (I don’t think they coexist with anybody else.)
Stargirl SG one (and there’s an alternate reality where people can actually
watch that show)
The flash (he may be in the second Supergirl reality but I don’t think
so.). (Also, the flash somehow has all kinds of alternate realities that
don’t count as such)
The Awful Arrow, and somehow there are multiple Diggles, visiting multiple
realities, all of which they still deny the existence of.
Superman Returns (they showed us that officially survived the crisis.)

I have no idea what the status of legends is. Or Naomi. Or battered woman.
Or Lucifer.

Oh, I remember. He’s the alternate husband of the alternate and thankfully
dead Lois but he’s one of the supermen by proxy, I guess steel. And he’s
got a daughter who wears the suit as well.

>
>> which is why they had to fire Cavill-- way too normal

Don’t you love the weasel words? We didn’t fire Cavill, we just didn’t
rehire him. And he’s being ducked around by everybody else but us.

for a modern
>> Hollywood leading 'it'. And they had to shelve BATGIRL because the
>> movie was 'unreleasable'-- which likely means it was way too
>> traditional and didn't utterly destroy the character as people have
>> known it for decades.
>>>
>>
>> Given that they are now years out from having any new product they
>> should¹ve just released it anyway.
>
>
> I agree with that. People would go, no matter what. I think this is a
> tax thing. Accordingly, they have to pretend the film was a dead loss.
>

That’s a good point. To make the tax scam work, they may been instructed to
say the film was unreleasable, and apparently unfixable, even though they
hadn’t started working on it yet, as often as possible.

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