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One Way or Another (2023-02-08 Seymour Hersh Edition)

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How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now
Seymour Hersh 6 hr ago
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

The source had a much more streetwise view of Biden’s decision to sabotage more than 1500 miles of Gazprom pipeline as winter approached.

“Well,” he said, speaking of the President, “I gotta admit the guy has a pair of balls. He said he was going to do it, and he did.”

tags: mime with the crystal balls

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keep song in your heart!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDLcyXzLMfg

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On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 1:38:34 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:

> How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
> The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now
> Seymour Hersh 6 hr ago
> https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

White House says blog post on Nord Stream explosion 'utterly false'
February 8, 2023
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-says-blog-post-nord-stream-explosion-is-utterly-false-2023-02-08/

tags: the fuckers are lying to you

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 by: chromebook test - Wed, 8 Feb 2023 19:30 UTC

On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 1:43:46 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 1:38:34 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
>
>

> > How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
> > The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now
> > Seymour Hersh 6 hr ago
> > https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

> White House says blog post on Nord Stream explosion 'utterly false'
> February 8, 2023
> https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-says-blog-post-nord-stream-explosion-is-utterly-false-2023-02-08/

"No one would know it was us"

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.tv/c/rVhIw0z51YI/m/Oq6B-cv5AQAJ

tags: false flag, How Many Assholes We Got On This Ship Anyhow?

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On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 1:38:34 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
> The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now
> Seymour Hersh 6 hr ago
> https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
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> The source had a much more streetwise view of Biden’s decision to sabotage more than 1500 miles of Gazprom pipeline as winter approached.
>
> “Well,” he said, speaking of the President, “I gotta admit the guy has a pair of balls. He said he was going to do it, and he did.”

The Americans provided one vital element: they convinced the Sixth Fleet planners to add a research and development exercise to the program. The exercise, as made public by the Navy, involved the Sixth Fleet in collaboration with the Navy’s “research and warfare centers.” The at-sea event would be held off the coast of Bornholm Island and involve NATO teams of divers planting mines, with competing teams using the latest underwater technology to find and destroy them. It was both a useful exercise and ingenious cover.

///

October 2019 Wuhan World Peace Games
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Military_World_Games#COVID-19_conspiracy_theories

It was both a useful exercise and ingenious cover.
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.tv/c/rVhIw0z51YI/m/v3d2qbW0CAAJ

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On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 1:38:34 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
> The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now
> Seymour Hersh 6 hr ago
> https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

Why Substack?
A message for you, the readers, about me and Substack
Seymour Hersh 15 hr ago
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/why-substack

I’ve been a freelancer for much of my career. In 1969, I broke the story of a unit of American soldiers in Vietnam who had committed a horrific war crime. They were ordered to attack an ordinary peasant village where, as a few officers knew, they would get no opposition—and told to kill on sight. The boys murdered, raped and mutilated for hours, with no enemy to be found. The crime was covered up at the top of the military chain of command for eighteen months—until I uncovered it.

I won a Pulitzer Prize for international reporting for that work, but getting it before the American public was no easy task. I wasn’t an established journalist working for an established outfit. My first story, published under a barely existent wire service run by a friend of mine, was initially rejected by the editors at Life and Look magazines. When the Washington Post finally published it, they littered it with Pentagon denials and the unthinking skepticism of the rewrite man.

I’ve been told my stories were wrong, invented, outrageous for as long as I can remember—but I’ve never stopped. In 2004, after I published the first stories about the torture of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib, a Pentagon spokesman responded by calling my journalism “a tapestry of nonsense.” (He also said I was a guy who “threw a lot of crap against the wall” and “expects someone to peel off what’s real.” I won my fifth George Polk Award for that work.)

I’ve put in my time at the major outlets, but was never at home there. More recently, I wouldn’t be welcome anyway. Money, as always, was part of the problem. The Washington Post and my old newspaper, The New York Times (to name just a few), have found themselves in a cycle of dwindling home delivery, newsstand sales, and display advertisements. CNN and its offspring, like MSNBC and Fox News, battle for sensational headlines over investigative journalism. There are still many brilliant journalists at work, but so much of the reporting has to be within guidelines and constraints that did not exist in the years I was turning out daily stories for the Times.

That’s where Substack comes along. Here, I have the kind of freedom I’ve always fought for. I’ve watched writer after writer on this platform as they’ve freed themselves from their publishers’ economic interests, run deep with stories without fear of word counts or column inches, and—most importantly—spoken directly to their readers. And that last point, for me, is the clincher. I’ve never been interested in socializing with pols or cozying up to money types at the self-important cocktail get togethers—the star-fucking parties, I always liked to call them. I’m at my best when I swig cheap bourbon with the servicemen, work over the first-year law firm associates for intel, or swap stories with the junior minister from a country most people can’t name. That’s always been my style. And as it turns out, it’s the ethos of this online community as well.

What you’ll find here is, I hope, a reflection of that freedom. The story you will read today is the truth as I worked for three months to find, with no pressure from a publisher, editors or peers to make it hew to certain lines of thought—or pare it back to assuage their fears. Substack simply means reporting is back . . . unfiltered and unprogrammed—just the way I like it.

Seymour M. Hersh

Washington, DC

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Know the truth, and the truth will set you free - CIA headquarters, Langley Virginia

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On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 1:38:34 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
> The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now
> Seymour Hersh 6 hr ago
> https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

Geopolitical Economy Report
Ben Norton Feb 8, 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ5VLdqac-0

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 by: chromebook test - Thu, 9 Feb 2023 20:37 UTC

On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 1:43:46 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 1:38:34 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:


> > How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
> > The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now
> > Seymour Hersh 6 hr ago
> > https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

> White House says blog post on Nord Stream explosion 'utterly false'
> February 8, 2023
> https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-says-blog-post-nord-stream-explosion-is-utterly-false-2023-02-08/

U.S. Official Statement on Nord Stream Pipeline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRHpGClgXFE

> tags: the fuckers are lying to you

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On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 1:43:46 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:

> > How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
> > https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

> White House says blog post on Nord Stream explosion 'utterly false'
> https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-says-blog-post-nord-stream-explosion-is-utterly-false-2023-02-08/

> tags: the fuckers are lying to you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Z6xcN5ZoY

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 by: chromebook test - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 22:39 UTC

On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 9:30:50 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 1:38:34 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> > How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
> > The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now
> > Seymour Hersh 6 hr ago
> > https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

Even before Seymour Hersh’s report this week, it was more than reasonable to suspect the US government was responsible for the Nord Stream blasts. They all but admitted it themselves.
11:26 AM · Feb 11, 2023
https://twitter.com/SystemUpdate_/status/1624444665511698432

> Why Substack?
> A message for you, the readers, about me and Substack
> Seymour Hersh 15 hr ago
> https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/why-substack

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 by: chromebook test - Thu, 16 Feb 2023 08:24 UTC

On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 9:30:50 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 1:38:34 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> > How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
> > The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now
> > Seymour Hersh 6 hr ago
> > https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
>
>
> Why Substack?
> A message for you, the readers, about me and Substack
> Seymour Hersh 15 hr ago
> https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/why-substack

The Crap on the Wall
Seymour Hersh 6 hr
https://www.investorvillage.com/groups.asp?mb=19168&mn=482376&pt=msg&mid=23908620
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/the-crap-on-the-wall

This a brief combat report from the battlefield here and abroad in the aftermath of the release last Wednesday of my story about Joe Biden’s decision to blow up the Nord Stream pipelines.

First, many thanks for your interest in what the pipeline story was all about: a very dangerous Presidential decision. You are careful readers.

I’m an old hand at dropping bombshell stories that are based on the disclosures of sources I do not, and cannot, name. There is a pattern to the response by the mainstream media. It dates back to my breakthrough story: the My Lai massacre revelation. That story was published in five installments, over five weeks in 1969, by the underground media group Dispatch News.. I had tried to get the two most important magazines in America, Life and Look, to publish the story, with no success. Editors at both publications had earlier invited me to do some freelance writing for them, but they wanted nothing to do with a story about a massacre committed by American soldiers.

It was a frightening time for me, in terms of my faith in the profession I had chosen. I was allowed to read and copy by hand much of the Army’s original charge sheet accusing a sad sack 2nd Lieutenant named William L. Calley Jr. of the premeditated murder of 109 “Oriental” human beings. I also had tracked Calley, the Army’s only suspect, and interviewed him at a base in Georgia—he was tucked away—and gotten his assertion that he was merely doing what he was ordered to do. Given all this, I was more than a little rattled—make that terrified—by the failure of senior editors at prominent magazines to jump at a story that would get international attention, especially when those editors professed to deplore the war and want it to end.

Despite their obscure beginnings in the underground press, the articles I wrote eventually found their way to the mainstream media in America and around the world, as I kept on reporting. And over the years the government kept on trying to obstruct or—since they couldn’t stop me—denigrate what I was writing.

The most bizarre effort came from the Defense Department of Donald Rumsfeld.. Two decades ago, Secretary Rumsfeld and Vice President Richard Cheney discarded the rule of law and common decency in their efforts to stomp out Muslim terrorism. I was writing for the New Yorker then, and the White House responded to an article I published about the CIA’s secret operations inside Iran by calling it another example of Hersh throwing “crap”—that was the word used by an assistant secretary of defense—“on a wall to see what sticks.”

Such hostility crosses political boundaries. In early 2009, when the New Yorkerfact checking department asked the White House for comment on my first story after Barack Obama took office, a senior national security advisor to the President responded: “Seymour Hersh is a known fabricator.” He added the magazine could publish that response to any future Hersh story without further checking.

Alas, nothing has changed. Take a look at the casual dismissiveness of the senior spokesman of the State Department when asked a series of pipeline questions by a persistent reporter.

The New York Times published everything I wrote—most if not all on the front page—when I was an investigative reporter on the paper from 1972 to 1979. The Washington Post has followed my career as the loyal opposition and ran a long magazine profile of me more than two decades ago. Neither paper has run a word at this point about the pipeline story, not even to quote the White House’s denial of my reporting. Similarly, public calls by officials in Russia and China for a full investigation of the pipeline story have been ignored by the US media. (I cannot resist noting that a reporter from the Times called me on the day the pipeline story appeared. I told him that I was not doing interviews. He asked if I would entertain one question. I acquiesced. He asked how many publications had I offered the pipeline story before coming to Substack. Such silliness is a sign that the mainstream American press is now more interested in media gossip than in national security or matters of war and peace.)

There may be more to learn about Joe Biden’s decision to prevent the German government from having second thoughts about the lack of cheap gas this winter.

Stay tuned. We are only on first base . . .

Sy Hersh

> Know the truth, and the truth will set you free - CIA headquarters, Langley Virginia

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