> RichA
>
> Trudeau, hat-in-hand asks U.S. to shoot down object over Canadian territory
> because the country ineptly bought F-18 fighters plagued by short-range
> capability...in a country 2500 miles across...

The F/A-18 has a 2000 mile ferry range and it's not like the swamp gas... I mean,
ChiCom ballon is going to fight back, so a huge load of ordnance isn't needed.

RichA wrote:
> On Sunday, 12 February 2023 at 06:34:21 UTC-5, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>> RichA
>>>
>>> Trudeau, hat-in-hand asks U.S. to shoot down object over Canadian territory
>>> because the country ineptly bought F-18 fighters plagued by short-range
>>> capability...in a country 2500 miles across...
>> The F/A-18 has a 2000 mile ferry range and it's not like the swamp gas... I
>> mean, ChiCom ballon is going to fight back, so a huge load of ordnance
>> isn't needed.
>
> "The current F/A-18E/F Super Hornet can range no farther than 600 miles with
> a heavy load of weapons and no mid-air refueling." And F-15 can go 3500
> miles. If GOD had designed a plane, it would be the F-15.
>
> And none of the current fighters, save the F-15 which Canada doesn't have but
> the U.S. still has, has a ceiling of 65,000ft.
>
> Also, WHY no close-ups of the third object which was only at 40,000ft?

All these things will not end well. They will shoot down a passenger
jet by mistake.

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[NOM] wrote:

On 2/12/2023 6:34 AM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>> RichA
>>
>> Trudeau, hat-in-hand asks U.S. to shoot down object over Canadian territory
>> because the country ineptly bought F-18 fighters plagued by short-range
>> capability...in a country 2500 miles across...
>
> The F/A-18 has a 2000 mile ferry range and it's not like the swamp gas... I mean,
> ChiCom ballon is going to fight back, so a huge load of ordnance isn't needed.

Meanwhile, has anyone seen my Frisbee?...

On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 10:19:28 AM UTC-5, RichA wrote:
> On Sunday, 12 February 2023 at 06:34:21 UTC-5, Ed Stasiak wrote:
> > > RichA
> > >
> > > Trudeau, hat-in-hand asks U.S. to shoot down object over Canadian territory
> > > because the country ineptly bought F-18 fighters plagued by short-range
> > > capability...in a country 2500 miles across...
> > The F/A-18 has a 2000 mile ferry range and it's not like the swamp gas... I mean,
> > ChiCom ballon is going to fight back, so a huge load of ordnance isn't needed.
> "The current F/A-18E/F Super Hornet can range no farther than 600 miles with a heavy load of weapons and no mid-air refueling."
> And F-15 can go 3500 miles. If GOD had designed a plane, it would be the F-15.
>
> And none of the current fighters, save the F-15 which Canada doesn't have but the U.S. still has, has a ceiling of 65,000ft.

> Also, WHY no close-ups of the third object which was only at 40,000ft?

So you couldn't see the tiny URL printed on the side:

https://tinyurl.com/nmfshp27

In article <Bc8GL.81254$OD18.9421@fx08.iad>,
moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

> On 2/12/2023 6:34 AM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
> >> RichA
> >>
> >> Trudeau, hat-in-hand asks U.S. to shoot down object over Canadian
> >> territory because the country ineptly bought F-18 fighters plagued by
> >> short-range capability...in a country 2500 miles across...
> >
> > The F/A-18 has a 2000 mile ferry range and it's not like the swamp gas...
> > I mean, ChiCom ballon is going to fight back, so a huge load of ordnance
> > isn't needed.
>
> Meanwhile, has anyone seen my Frisbee?...

We should start sending 'innocent' balloons over Beijing and when they
throw a fit, give them their own rhetoric back at them.

On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 11:42:44 AM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <Bc8GL.81254$OD18...@fx08.iad>,
> moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2/12/2023 6:34 AM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
> > >> RichA
> > >>
> > >> Trudeau, hat-in-hand asks U.S. to shoot down object over Canadian
> > >> territory because the country ineptly bought F-18 fighters plagued by
> > >> short-range capability...in a country 2500 miles across...
> > >
> > > The F/A-18 has a 2000 mile ferry range and it's not like the swamp gas...
> > > I mean, ChiCom ballon is going to fight back, so a huge load of ordnance
> > > isn't needed.
> >
> > Meanwhile, has anyone seen my Frisbee?...

> We should start sending 'innocent' balloons over Beijing and when they
> throw a fit, give them their own rhetoric back at them.

Ironically, this is 'blowback', maybe from October 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_(intelligence)

----------

"We will never forget", and neither have the Chinese

On 2/12/23 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <Bc8GL.81254$OD18.9421@fx08.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/12/2023 6:34 AM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>> RichA
>>>>
>>>> Trudeau, hat-in-hand asks U.S. to shoot down object over Canadian
>>>> territory because the country ineptly bought F-18 fighters plagued by
>>>> short-range capability...in a country 2500 miles across...
>>>
>>> The F/A-18 has a 2000 mile ferry range and it's not like the swamp gas...
>>> I mean, ChiCom ballon is going to fight back, so a huge load of ordnance
>>> isn't needed.
>>
>> Meanwhile, has anyone seen my Frisbee?...
>
> We should start sending 'innocent' balloons over Beijing and when they
> throw a fit, give them their own rhetoric back at them.

I totally get that. Because you're a Republican you think we should be
just as shitty as the shittiest countries around the world. What a
horseshit asshole you turned out to be.

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 08:43:37 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <Bc8GL.81254$OD18.9421@fx08.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/12/2023 6:34 AM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>> >> RichA
>> >>
>> >> Trudeau, hat-in-hand asks U.S. to shoot down object over Canadian
>> >> territory because the country ineptly bought F-18 fighters plagued by
>> >> short-range capability...in a country 2500 miles across...
>> >
>> > The F/A-18 has a 2000 mile ferry range and it's not like the swamp gas...
>> > I mean, ChiCom ballon is going to fight back, so a huge load of ordnance
>> > isn't needed.
>>
>> Meanwhile, has anyone seen my Frisbee?...
>
>We should start sending 'innocent' balloons over Beijing and when they
>throw a fit, give them their own rhetoric back at them.

Send hundreds of them just to make the point.

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 17:00:44 -0600, trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:

>On 2/12/23 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <Bc8GL.81254$OD18.9421@fx08.iad>,
>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/12/2023 6:34 AM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>>> RichA
>>>>>
>>>>> Trudeau, hat-in-hand asks U.S. to shoot down object over Canadian
>>>>> territory because the country ineptly bought F-18 fighters plagued by
>>>>> short-range capability...in a country 2500 miles across...
>>>>
>>>> The F/A-18 has a 2000 mile ferry range and it's not like the swamp gas...
>>>> I mean, ChiCom ballon is going to fight back, so a huge load of ordnance
>>>> isn't needed.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, has anyone seen my Frisbee?...
>>
>> We should start sending 'innocent' balloons over Beijing and when they
>> throw a fit, give them their own rhetoric back at them.
>
>
>I totally get that. Because you're a Republican you think we should be
>just as shitty as the shittiest countries around the world. What a
>horseshit asshole you turned out to be.

And just when you think Twitski has hit rock bottom, he comes out in
favor of China spying on the US via balloons.

In article <wceGL.743532$iS99.626774@fx16.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
> On 2/12/23 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>> On 2/12/2023 6:34 AM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>>> RichA

>>>>> Trudeau, hat-in-hand asks U.S. to shoot down object over Canadian
>>>>> territory because the country ineptly bought F-18 fighters plagued by
>>>>> short-range capability...in a country 2500 miles across...
>>>>
>>>> The F/A-18 has a 2000 mile ferry range and it's not like the swamp gas...
>>>> I mean, ChiCom ballon is going to fight back, so a huge load of ordnance
>>>> isn't needed.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, has anyone seen my Frisbee?...
>>
>> We should start sending 'innocent' balloons over Beijing and when they
>> throw a fit, give them their own rhetoric back at them.
>
>I totally get that. Because you're a Republican you think we should be
>just as shitty as the shittiest countries around the world. What a
>horseshit asshole you turned out to be.

TROLL-O-METER
5* 6* *7
4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
1* | *stuporous
0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
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* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity

NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 17:00:44 -0600, trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
>> On 2/12/23 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2/12/2023 6:34 AM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>>>> RichA

>>>>>> Trudeau, hat-in-hand asks U.S. to shoot down object over Canadian
>>>>>> territory because the country ineptly bought F-18 fighters plagued by
>>>>>> short-range capability...in a country 2500 miles across...
>>>>>
>>>>> The F/A-18 has a 2000 mile ferry range and it's not like the swamp gas...
>>>>> I mean, ChiCom ballon is going to fight back, so a huge load of ordnance
>>>>> isn't needed.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, has anyone seen my Frisbee?...
>>>
>>> We should start sending 'innocent' balloons over Beijing and when they
>>> throw a fit, give them their own rhetoric back at them.
>>
>>I totally get that. Because you're a Republican you think we should be
>>just as shitty as the shittiest countries around the world. What a
>>horseshit asshole you turned out to be.
>
>And just when you think Twitski has hit rock bottom, he comes out in
>favor of China spying on the US via balloons.

One would think "trotsky" would be better at trolling after all these years,
eh?

--
Let's go Brandon!

On 2023-02-13 12:07:38 +0000, NoBody said:

> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 17:00:44 -0600, trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
>> On 2/12/23 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <Bc8GL.81254$OD18.9421@fx08.iad>,
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2/12/2023 6:34 AM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> RichA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trudeau, hat-in-hand asks U.S. to shoot down object over Canadian
>>>>>> territory because the country ineptly bought F-18 fighters plagued by
>>>>>> short-range capability...in a country 2500 miles across...
>>>>>
>>>>> The F/A-18 has a 2000 mile ferry range and it's not like the swamp gas...
>>>>> I mean, ChiCom ballon is going to fight back, so a huge load of ordnance
>>>>> isn't needed.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, has anyone seen my Frisbee?...
>>>
>>> We should start sending 'innocent' balloons over Beijing and when they
>>> throw a fit, give them their own rhetoric back at them.
>>
>> I totally get that. Because you're a Republican you think we should be
>> just as shitty as the shittiest countries around the world. What a
>> horseshit asshole you turned out to be.
>
> And just when you think Twitski has hit rock bottom, he comes out in
> favor of China spying on the US via balloons.

He favors anyone that will let him torture innocent people for free.

--
"Who would ever do this to him!?" - HottCiara on DOOL (04-27-2020), asking
who would stab Victor Kirakis... How about ANYONE WHO'S EVER MET HIM??!!

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 08:43:37 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>We should start sending 'innocent' balloons over Beijing and when they
>throw a fit, give them their own rhetoric back at them.

Given winds typically blow from west to east where would you suggest
they be launched from?

(Otherwise I agree with you)

On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 08:34:15 -0500, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:

>>And just when you think Twitski has hit rock bottom, he comes out in
>>favor of China spying on the US via balloons.
>
>One would think "trotsky" would be better at trolling after all these years,
>eh?

That would require him to learn from his mistakes.

Nah - ain't gonna happen!

> RichA
> > Ed Stasiak
> >
> > The F/A-18 has a 2000 mile ferry range and it's not like the swamp gas.... I mean,
> > ChiCom ballon is going to fight back, so a huge load of ordnance isn't needed.
>
> "The current F/A-18E/F Super Hornet can range no farther than 600 miles with
> a heavy load of weapons and no mid-air refueling."

"With a heavy load of weapons", which isn't needed to shoot down a balloon.

> And F-15 can go 3500 miles. If GOD had designed a plane, it would be the F-15.

That's the unarmed ferry range with additional fuel tanks, it's 1200 miles with weapons.

> Also, WHY no close-ups of the third object which was only at 40,000ft?

And now we've had yet another Chinese balloon, this time flying over Michigan,
which was shot down over Lake Huron.

https://news.yahoo.com/another-object-shot-down-over-214224539.html
February 12, 2023

Another object shot down over Lake Huron in Michigan

The U.S. military shot down an unidentified flying object over Michigan Sunday – the third in three days and fourth since downing a Chinese spy balloon off the coast of South Carolina Feb. 4.

Sunday’s shoot down occurred hours after airspace had been temporarily closed over Lake Michigan by the Federal Aviation Administration and NORAD. Fighter jets had scrambled to investigate a radar finding there but did not find an object, according to a U.S. official who was not authorized to comment.

An F-16 shot down the object at 2:42 p.m. ET Sunday at the direction of President Joe Biden, according to Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder, the Pentagon press secretary. The pilot fired an AIM 9X sidewinder missile, the same weapon used in the previous instances.

The object had been flying at about 20,000 feet over Lake Huron in a path and altitude that raised concerns about it being a hazard to civilian aviation, Ryder said Sunday evening. Shooting it down over the lake minimized the chances of injuring people or damaging property. There are no indications anybody was hurt.

On 2/13/2023 11:03 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 08:43:37 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> We should start sending 'innocent' balloons over Beijing and when they
>> throw a fit, give them their own rhetoric back at them.
>
> Given winds typically blow from west to east where would you suggest
> they be launched from?
>
The ISS? :P

--
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dirty old man.

On 2023-02-12 4:34 a.m., Ed Stasiak wrote:
>> RichA
>>
>> Trudeau, hat-in-hand asks U.S. to shoot down object over Canadian territory
>> because the country ineptly bought F-18 fighters plagued by short-range
>> capability...in a country 2500 miles across...
>
> The F/A-18 has a 2000 mile ferry range and it's not like the swamp gas... I mean,
> ChiCom ballon is going to fight back, so a huge load of ordnance isn't needed.

The American fighters had been following it out of Alaska so they were
right there when the order came down. The Canadian jets were still en
route.