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* [OT] AirBnB bans conservative's PARENTS from using their servicesRhino
`* Re: [OT] AirBnB bans conservative's PARENTS from using their serviceschromebook test
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 by: Rhino - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 00:40 UTC

I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:

https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-spencer/2023/02/10/another-mistake-woke-airbnb-bans-conservative-youtubers-parents-restores-them-after-outcry-n1669668

Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some way is
straight out of the Communist playbook. As the article points out - and
activists like Yeonmi Park have attested - the North Koreans routinely
punish RELATIVES of those who have offended the state. The Soviet Union
did that in Stalin's day too. There was actually a provision of the
Soviet Criminal Code that said being a family member of someone who got
into trouble with the state was a crime in and of itself. There were
many instances were a spouse, child, parent, grandparent, aunt, uncle or
in-law was sent to the Gulag - or an orphanage if young enough - for the
"crimes" of a family member. (And remember, most of these "crimes" were
only proven by confessions obtained by relentless torture).

Fortunately, in this case, the outcry that resulted from this banning of
Southern's parents got AirBnB to reverse itself but who would want to
count on this to ensure that the right thing got done? A conservative
with less of a following might not be able to get that kind of decision
overturned.

Is this what America has come to? I'm started to see why Yeonmi Park has
expressed concerns that America is becoming more and more like her
homeland of North Korea!

--
Rhino

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 by: chromebook test - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 00:48 UTC

On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:40:23 PM UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
> I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:
>
> https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-spencer/2023/02/10/another-mistake-woke-airbnb-bans-conservative-youtubers-parents-restores-them-after-outcry-n1669668

> Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some way is
> straight out of the Communist playbook.

34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime

https://www.google.com/search?q=34+states+make+free+speech+rights+to+boycott+Israel+a+crime

tags: dear American pussies, wake the fuck up

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On Feb 10, 2023 at 4:48:00 PM PST, "chromebook test"
<chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:40:23 PM UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
>> I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:
>>
>>
>> https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-spencer/2023/02/10/another-mistake-woke-airbnb-bans-conservative-youtubers-parents-restores-them-after-outcry-n1669668
>>
>
>> Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some way is
>> straight out of the Communist playbook.
>
> 34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime

NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware, 458 U.S. 886 (1982), the Supreme Court ruled that
although states have broad power to regulate economic activities, they cannot
prohibit peaceful advocacy of or participation in a politically motivated
boycott.

Which is why both Arizona and Oklahoma's anti-boycott laws were struck down
and nullified.

Any attempt by Congress to do the same will meet the same fate. No one's
actually going to be fined or jailed for boycotting Israel. It's all just a
bunch of bluster and grandstanding so they can claim they tried to the money
people who finance their campaigns.

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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>Feb 10, 2023 at 4:48:00 PM PST, chromebook test <chromiumtest56@gmail.com>:

>>>. . .

>>34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime

>NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware, 458 U.S. 886 (1982), the Supreme Court ruled that
>although states have broad power to regulate economic activities, they cannot
>prohibit peaceful advocacy of or participation in a politically motivated
>boycott.

>Which is why both Arizona and Oklahoma's anti-boycott laws were struck down
>and nullified.

>Any attempt by Congress to do the same will meet the same fate. No one's
>actually going to be fined or jailed for boycotting Israel. It's all just a
>bunch of bluster and grandstanding so they can claim they tried to the money
>people who finance their campaigns.

I'm shocked here that mime gets the criticism of the Jooz so wrong here.
It's not objecting to anti-Israel speech. It's that the Jooz lobbied for
thwarting anti-Israel speech knowing that it was unconstitutional.

A real Jewish lawyer defended Brandenburg. A real Jewish lawyer defended
Frank Collin. In Israel, Palestinians are able to hire real Jewish
lawyers to defend their liberty against military excess.

The law itself isn't hypocritical. It's the Jews themselves who lobbied
for such a law who are being enormous hypocrites.

What's become of the real mime?

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 by: chromebook test - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 17:48 UTC

On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 12:15:29 PM UTC-5, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> >Feb 10, 2023 at 4:48:00 PM PST, chromebook test <chromiu...@gmail.com>:
>
> >>>. . .
> >>34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime
>
> >NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware, 458 U.S. 886 (1982), the Supreme Court ruled that
> >although states have broad power to regulate economic activities, they cannot
> >prohibit peaceful advocacy of or participation in a politically motivated
> >boycott.
>
> >Which is why both Arizona and Oklahoma's anti-boycott laws were struck down
> >and nullified.
>
> >Any attempt by Congress to do the same will meet the same fate. No one's
> >actually going to be fined or jailed for boycotting Israel. It's all just a
> >bunch of bluster and grandstanding so they can claim they tried to the money
> >people who finance their campaigns.
> I'm shocked here that mime gets the criticism of the Jooz so wrong here.
> It's not objecting to anti-Israel speech. It's that the Jooz lobbied for
> thwarting anti-Israel speech knowing that it was unconstitutional.
>
> A real Jewish lawyer defended Brandenburg. A real Jewish lawyer defended
> Frank Collin. In Israel, Palestinians are able to hire real Jewish
> lawyers to defend their liberty against military excess.
>
> The law itself isn't hypocritical. It's the Jews themselves who lobbied
> for such a law who are being enormous hypocrites.
>
> What's become of the real mime?

Anti-Zionism is not simply an abstract idea, but an ideological movement with real-world consequences. Denying the Jewish people the universal right of self-determination is fundamentally antisemitic.
https://twitter.com/ADL/status/1624156280297250834

tags: if you don't support unconstitutional laws in 34 states, you are a jew-hating anti-semite, #gawdbleshuhmerka!

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On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:40:23 PM UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
> > I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:
> >
> > https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-spencer/2023/02/10/another-mistake-woke-airbnb-bans-conservative-youtubers-parents-restores-them-after-outcry-n1669668
>
>
>
> > Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some way is
> > straight out of the Communist playbook.
> 34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=34+states+make+free+speech+rights+to+boycott+Israel+a+crime
>
>
>
>
> tags: dear American pussies, wake the fuck up

You did a heck of a job hijacking my point! I was trying to make a completely DIFFERENT point. Next time, stay the fuck out of MY thread if you don't have a relevant contribution to make. Start your own damned thread if you want to rant about BDS.

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 by: chromebook test - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 19:12 UTC

On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 2:01:13 PM UTC-5, Rhino2 wrote:
> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:40:23 PM UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
> > > I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:
> > >
> > > https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-spencer/2023/02/10/another-mistake-woke-airbnb-bans-conservative-youtubers-parents-restores-them-after-outcry-n1669668
> >
> >
> >
> > > Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some way is
> > > straight out of the Communist playbook.
> > 34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime
> >
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=34+states+make+free+speech+rights+to+boycott+Israel+a+crime
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > tags: dear American pussies, wake the fuck up

> You did a heck of a job hijacking my point! I was trying to make a completely DIFFERENT point. Next time, stay the fuck out of MY thread if you don't have a relevant contribution to make. Start your own damned thread if you want to rant about BDS.

I did no such thing, I actually reinforced your argument:

"Punishing family members of people who *speak or act out in some way* is straight out of the *Communist playbook*."

with

"34 states make *free speech rights* to boycott Israel a *crime*"

If you weren't a loyal Zionist, you would see that. But you are blind, leading a band of deaf.

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In article <40286b71-c916-4972-9b12-c98a498005e9n@googlegroups.com>,
Rhino2 <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:40:23 PM UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
> > > I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:
> > >
> > > https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-spencer/2023/02/10/another-mistake-woke
> > > -airbnb-bans-conservative-youtubers-parents-restores-them-after-outcry-n16
> > > 69668

> > > Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some way is
> > > straight out of the Communist playbook.
> > 34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime
> >
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=34+states+make+free+speech+rights+to+boycott
> > +Israel+a+crime

> > tags: dear American pussies, wake the fuck up
>
> You did a heck of a job hijacking my point! I was trying to make a completely
> DIFFERENT point. Next time, stay the fuck out of MY thread if you don't have
> a relevant contribution to make. Start your own damned thread if you want to
> rant about BDS.

There's literally no topic that mime doesn't believe relates to the Jooz.

I swear to god-- and I'm not exaggerating for effect-- that if tomorrow
NASA discovered a comet headed toward a collision with earth, mime would
insist that the comet was Israel's fault and if only Oklahoma hadn't
tried to force government contractors to sign a pledge supporting
Israel, the thing wouldn't crash into earth.

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On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 2:28:34 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <40286b71-c916-4972...@googlegroups.com>,
> Rhino2 <hughmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> > > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:40:23 PM UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
> > > > I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:
> > > >
> > > > https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-spencer/2023/02/10/another-mistake-woke
> > > > -airbnb-bans-conservative-youtubers-parents-restores-them-after-outcry-n16
> > > > 69668
>
> > > > Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some way is
> > > > straight out of the Communist playbook.
> > > 34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime
> > >
> > > https://www.google.com/search?q=34+states+make+free+speech+rights+to+boycott
> > > +Israel+a+crime
>
> > > tags: dear American pussies, wake the fuck up
> >
> > You did a heck of a job hijacking my point! I was trying to make a completely
> > DIFFERENT point. Next time, stay the fuck out of MY thread if you don't have
> > a relevant contribution to make. Start your own damned thread if you want to
> > rant about BDS.

> There's literally no topic that mime doesn't believe relates to the Jooz.
>
> I swear to god-- and I'm not exaggerating for effect-- that if tomorrow
> NASA discovered a comet headed toward a collision with earth, mime would
> insist that the comet was Israel's fault and if only Oklahoma hadn't
> tried to force government contractors to sign a pledge supporting
> Israel, the thing wouldn't crash into earth.

You are exaggerating to dismiss the real danger to the constitutional rights of every American. That doesn't sound very patriotic, unless it comes from someone more pro-Israel than pro-American, and then it does.

If this was a Second Amendment violation instead of a First Amendment violation, you would be on my side of obsessive.

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 by: BTR1701 - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 19:50 UTC

In article <1b063775-d05a-4117-be48-bdafd8a204bdn@googlegroups.com>,
chromebook test <chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 2:28:34 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <40286b71-c916-4972...@googlegroups.com>,
> > Rhino2 <hughmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> > > > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:40:23 PM UTC-5, Rhino wrote:

> > > > > I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:

> > > > > Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some way
> > > > > is straight out of the Communist playbook.
> > > > 34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=34+states+make+free+speech+rights+to+boy
> > > > cott+Israel+a+crime
> >
> > > > tags: dear American pussies, wake the fuck up
> > >
> > > You did a heck of a job hijacking my point! I was trying to make a
> > > completely DIFFERENT point. Next time, stay the fuck out of MY thread
> > > if you don't have a relevant contribution to make. Start your own
> > > damned thread if you want to rant about BDS.

> > There's literally no topic that mime doesn't believe relates to the Jooz.
> >
> > I swear to god-- and I'm not exaggerating for effect-- that if tomorrow
> > NASA discovered a comet headed toward a collision with earth, mime would
> > insist that the comet was Israel's fault and if only Oklahoma hadn't
> > tried to force government contractors to sign a pledge supporting
> > Israel, the thing wouldn't crash into earth.

> You are exaggerating to dismiss the real danger to the constitutional rights
> of every American. That doesn't sound very patriotic, unless it comes from
> someone more pro-Israel than pro-American, and then it does.

NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware, 458 U.S. 886 (1982), the Supreme Court
ruled that although states have broad power to regulate economic
activities, they cannot prohibit peaceful advocacy of or participation
in a politically motivated boycott.

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On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 2:37:09 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 2:28:34 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <40286b71-c916-4972...@googlegroups.com>,
> > Rhino2 <hughmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> > > > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:40:23 PM UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
> > > > > I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-spencer/2023/02/10/another-mistake-woke
> > > > > -airbnb-bans-conservative-youtubers-parents-restores-them-after-outcry-n16
> > > > > 69668
> >
> > > > > Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some way is
> > > > > straight out of the Communist playbook.
> > > > 34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=34+states+make+free+speech+rights+to+boycott
> > > > +Israel+a+crime
> >
> > > > tags: dear American pussies, wake the fuck up
> > >
> > > You did a heck of a job hijacking my point! I was trying to make a completely
> > > DIFFERENT point. Next time, stay the fuck out of MY thread if you don't have
> > > a relevant contribution to make. Start your own damned thread if you want to
> > > rant about BDS.
>
>
> > There's literally no topic that mime doesn't believe relates to the Jooz.
> >
> > I swear to god-- and I'm not exaggerating for effect-- that if tomorrow
> > NASA discovered a comet headed toward a collision with earth, mime would
> > insist that the comet was Israel's fault and if only Oklahoma hadn't
> > tried to force government contractors to sign a pledge supporting
> > Israel, the thing wouldn't crash into earth.
> You are exaggerating to dismiss the real danger to the constitutional rights of every American. That doesn't sound very patriotic, unless it comes from someone more pro-Israel than pro-American, and then it does.
>
> If this was a Second Amendment violation instead of a First Amendment violation, you would be on my side of obsessive.

American rights are being attacked internally by a foreign government. This is not hyperbole. This is an act of war with complicity from elected officials. These are acts of treason, punishable if convicted, by the death penalty.

That is how serious this is. If the courts do not correct these blatant infringements of constitution rights, there remains a final avenue for resolution.

Nobody in their freedom loving American mind wants to go there, but, give me liberty or give me death.

tags: Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

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 by: Rhino2 - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 19:56 UTC

On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 2:28:34 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <40286b71-c916-4972...@googlegroups.com>,
> Rhino2 <hughmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> > > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:40:23 PM UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
> > > > I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:
> > > >
> > > > https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-spencer/2023/02/10/another-mistake-woke
> > > > -airbnb-bans-conservative-youtubers-parents-restores-them-after-outcry-n16
> > > > 69668
>
> > > > Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some way is
> > > > straight out of the Communist playbook.
> > > 34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime
> > >
> > > https://www.google.com/search?q=34+states+make+free+speech+rights+to+boycott
> > > +Israel+a+crime
>
> > > tags: dear American pussies, wake the fuck up
> >
> > You did a heck of a job hijacking my point! I was trying to make a completely
> > DIFFERENT point. Next time, stay the fuck out of MY thread if you don't have
> > a relevant contribution to make. Start your own damned thread if you want to
> > rant about BDS.
> There's literally no topic that mime doesn't believe relates to the Jooz.
>
> I swear to god-- and I'm not exaggerating for effect-- that if tomorrow
> NASA discovered a comet headed toward a collision with earth, mime would
> insist that the comet was Israel's fault and if only Oklahoma hadn't
> tried to force government contractors to sign a pledge supporting
> Israel, the thing wouldn't crash into earth.

You're absolutely correct. He (?) is so demented/obsessed with Israel that he can't talk about anything else.

Sigh. Thunderbird has been malfunctioning for MONTHS now so half the posts on this newsgroup don't show up in Tbird. I come here to interact with the sensible members of the group and get nutjobs like chromebook wasting my time and even hijacking my threads since Google Groups completely lacks anything like a killfile. I may have to actually pay for a license to a proper newsreader just to filter out yammerheads like chromebook, Rich, Trotsky, etc.

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 by: chromebook test - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 20:03 UTC

On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 2:56:37 PM UTC-5, Rhino2 wrote:
> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 2:28:34 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <40286b71-c916-4972...@googlegroups.com>,
> > Rhino2 <hughmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> > > > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:40:23 PM UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
> > > > > I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-spencer/2023/02/10/another-mistake-woke
> > > > > -airbnb-bans-conservative-youtubers-parents-restores-them-after-outcry-n16
> > > > > 69668
> >
> > > > > Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some way is
> > > > > straight out of the Communist playbook.
> > > > 34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=34+states+make+free+speech+rights+to+boycott
> > > > +Israel+a+crime
> >
> > > > tags: dear American pussies, wake the fuck up
> > >
> > > You did a heck of a job hijacking my point! I was trying to make a completely
> > > DIFFERENT point. Next time, stay the fuck out of MY thread if you don't have
> > > a relevant contribution to make. Start your own damned thread if you want to
> > > rant about BDS.
> > There's literally no topic that mime doesn't believe relates to the Jooz.
> >
> > I swear to god-- and I'm not exaggerating for effect-- that if tomorrow
> > NASA discovered a comet headed toward a collision with earth, mime would
> > insist that the comet was Israel's fault and if only Oklahoma hadn't
> > tried to force government contractors to sign a pledge supporting
> > Israel, the thing wouldn't crash into earth.

> You're absolutely correct. He (?) is so demented/obsessed with Israel that he can't talk about anything else.
>
> Sigh. Thunderbird has been malfunctioning for MONTHS now so half the posts on this newsgroup don't show up in Tbird. I come here to interact with the sensible members of the group and get nutjobs like chromebook wasting my time and even hijacking my threads since Google Groups completely lacks anything like a killfile. I may have to actually pay for a license to a proper newsreader just to filter out yammerheads like chromebook, Rich, Trotsky, etc.

gawd dammit, you are the one reading and permitting your mind to be influenced by pjmedia, a right wing site of nothing BUT nut jobs.

tags: keep firing assholes!

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 by: chromebook test - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 20:19 UTC

On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 2:49:56 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <1b063775-d05a-4117...@googlegroups.com>,
> chromebook test <chromiu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 2:28:34 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> > > In article <40286b71-c916-4972...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > Rhino2 <hughmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:40:23 PM UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
>
> > > > > > I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:
> > > > > > Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some way
> > > > > > is straight out of the Communist playbook.
>
> > > > > 34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=34+states+make+free+speech+rights+to+boy
> > > > > cott+Israel+a+crime
> > >
> > > > > tags: dear American pussies, wake the fuck up
> > > >
> > > > You did a heck of a job hijacking my point! I was trying to make a
> > > > completely DIFFERENT point. Next time, stay the fuck out of MY thread
> > > > if you don't have a relevant contribution to make. Start your own
> > > > damned thread if you want to rant about BDS.
>
> > > There's literally no topic that mime doesn't believe relates to the Jooz.
> > >
> > > I swear to god-- and I'm not exaggerating for effect-- that if tomorrow
> > > NASA discovered a comet headed toward a collision with earth, mime would
> > > insist that the comet was Israel's fault and if only Oklahoma hadn't
> > > tried to force government contractors to sign a pledge supporting
> > > Israel, the thing wouldn't crash into earth.

> > You are exaggerating to dismiss the real danger to the constitutional rights
> > of every American. That doesn't sound very patriotic, unless it comes from
> > someone more pro-Israel than pro-American, and then it does.

> NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware, 458 U.S. 886 (1982), the Supreme Court
> ruled that although states have broad power to regulate economic
> activities, they cannot prohibit peaceful advocacy of or participation
> in a politically motivated boycott.

We’re a Small Arkansas Newspaper. Why Is the State Making Us Sign a Pledge About Israel?
Nov. 22, 2021
https://web.archive.org/web/20220202160504/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/22/opinion/israel-arkansas-bds-pledge.html

U.S. judges decide against Arkansas Times
Panel upholds boycott suit dismissal
Jaime Adame June 23, 2022
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2022/jun/23/us-judges-decide-against-ark-times/

In a statement Wednesday, Rutledge praised the ruling. "Today is a resounding victory for Arkansas's anti-discrimination law and reinforces Arkansas's relationship with our long-time ally, Israel,"

tags: supreme court, your our only hope obi wan, get it wrong, and then we play rough, like minutemen

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On 2/11/23 1:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <1b063775-d05a-4117-be48-bdafd8a204bdn@googlegroups.com>,
> chromebook test <chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 2:28:34 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <40286b71-c916-4972...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> Rhino2 <hughmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:40:23 PM UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
>
>>>>>> I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:
>
>>>>>> Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some way
>>>>>> is straight out of the Communist playbook.
>
>>>>> 34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=34+states+make+free+speech+rights+to+boy
>>>>> cott+Israel+a+crime
>>>
>>>>> tags: dear American pussies, wake the fuck up
>>>>
>>>> You did a heck of a job hijacking my point! I was trying to make a
>>>> completely DIFFERENT point. Next time, stay the fuck out of MY thread
>>>> if you don't have a relevant contribution to make. Start your own
>>>> damned thread if you want to rant about BDS.
>
>>> There's literally no topic that mime doesn't believe relates to the Jooz.
>>>
>>> I swear to god-- and I'm not exaggerating for effect-- that if tomorrow
>>> NASA discovered a comet headed toward a collision with earth, mime would
>>> insist that the comet was Israel's fault and if only Oklahoma hadn't
>>> tried to force government contractors to sign a pledge supporting
>>> Israel, the thing wouldn't crash into earth.
>
>> You are exaggerating to dismiss the real danger to the constitutional rights
>> of every American. That doesn't sound very patriotic, unless it comes from
>> someone more pro-Israel than pro-American, and then it does.
>
> NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware, 458 U.S. 886 (1982), the Supreme Court
> ruled that although states have broad power to regulate economic
> activities, they cannot prohibit peaceful advocacy of or participation
> in a politically motivated boycott.

Yes, and the right wing assholes on SCOTUS said Roe v Wade was "settled
law" too. You think like a child.

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 by: BTR1701 - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 21:28 UTC

In article <63156008-530c-4105-a835-cfd3bdae505cn@googlegroups.com>,
chromebook test <chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 2:49:56 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <1b063775-d05a-4117...@googlegroups.com>,
> > chromebook test <chromiu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 2:28:34 PM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> > > > In article <40286b71-c916-4972...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > > Rhino2 <hughmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, chromebook test
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:40:23 PM UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:
> > > > > > > Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some
> > > > > > > way is straight out of the Communist playbook.
> >
> > > > > > 34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=34+states+make+free+speech+rights+to
> > > > > > +boycott+Israel+a+crime
> > > >
> > > > > > tags: dear American pussies, wake the fuck up
> > > > >
> > > > > You did a heck of a job hijacking my point! I was trying to make a
> > > > > completely DIFFERENT point. Next time, stay the fuck out of MY thread
> > > > > if you don't have a relevant contribution to make. Start your own
> > > > > damned thread if you want to rant about BDS.
> >
> > > > There's literally no topic that mime doesn't believe relates to the
> > > > Jooz.
> > > >
> > > > I swear to god-- and I'm not exaggerating for effect-- that if tomorrow
> > > > NASA discovered a comet headed toward a collision with earth, mime
> > > > would insist that the comet was Israel's fault and if only Oklahoma
> > > > hadn't tried to force government contractors to sign a pledge
> > > > supporting Israel, the thing wouldn't crash into earth.

> > > You are exaggerating to dismiss the real danger to the constitutional
> > > rights of every American. That doesn't sound very patriotic, unless it
> > > comes from someone more pro-Israel than pro-American, and then it does.

> > NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware, 458 U.S. 886 (1982), the Supreme Court
> > ruled that although states have broad power to regulate economic
> > activities, they cannot prohibit peaceful advocacy of or participation
> > in a politically motivated boycott.
>
> We're a Small Arkansas Newspaper. Why Is the State Making Us Sign a Pledge
> About Israel?
> Nov. 22, 2021
> https://web.archive.org/web/20220202160504/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/22/
> opinion/israel-arkansas-bds-pledge.html
>
> U.S. judges decide against Arkansas Times
> Panel upholds boycott suit dismissal

Court of Appeals < Supreme Court

NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware, 458 U.S. 886 (1982), the Supreme Court
ruled that although states have broad power to regulate economic
activities, they cannot prohibit peaceful advocacy of or participation
in a politically motivated boycott.

If bans on economic boycotts could be enforced, then every time some
state passes a law that pisses off Hollywood-- no boys in girls
bathrooms, no teaching CRT to schoolkids, no drag shows for
kindergartners, no abortion without restriction, etc.-- and Hollywood
says they'll no longer patronize that state by filming there, those
studios and producers could be criminally charged.

Hell, California itself is boycotting about 30 states right now,
refusing to do business with them and prohibiting state-funded travel to
them because they have the gall to pass their own laws without asking
for the California government's approval first. (Except Emperor Newsom.
The boycotts don't apply to him. He gets to spend Christmas in Montana
because laws are for everyone else but him.)

Texas could just pass an anti-boycott law making it a crime to boycott
Texas and its businesses and then issue an arrest warrant for Newsom.

Of course none of that shit would actually happen because boycotts are
protected 1st Amendment activity.

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 by: Ed Stasiak - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 21:59 UTC

> BTR1701
> > chromebook test
> >
> > Nov. 22, 2021
> > https://web.archive.org/web/20220202160504/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/22/opinion/israel-arkansas-bds-pledge.html
> >
> > At The Arkansas Times, a publication I founded 47 years ago, our pages focus on small-scale local issues,
> > like protecting Medicaid expansion from the predations of our state legislature and other elements of Arkansas
> > politics, history and culture. So I was surprised when in 2018 I received an ultimatum from the University of
> > Arkansas’s Pulaski Technical College, a longtime advertiser: To continue receiving its ad dollars, we would
> > have to certify in writing that our company was not engaged in a boycott of Israel.
> >
> > And so, instead of signing, we sued to overturn the law, represented by the American Civil Liberties Union,
> > on the grounds that it violates the First and 14th Amendments. We are still fighting it.
> >
> > When our case reached the Federal District Court in 2019, the state argued that boycotting was not political
> > speech but rather an economic exercise and therefore subject to state regulation.
> >
> > And yet U.S. District Judge Brian Miller ruled against us. We appealed to the Eighth Circuit — and won — before
> > a three-judge panel in February. But on June 10, a rehearing by the full Eighth Circuit was ordered. That hearing
> > occurred on Sept. 21, and a decision is expected very soon. Frankly, we’re concerned it won’t go our way.
>
> Court of Appeals < Supreme Court

So who will pay for the plaintiffs lawyers in these cases? I can't afford it.
They're already being punished by being forced to fork out $X to fight these laws

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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>chromebook test <chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>. . .

>>We're a Small Arkansas Newspaper. Why Is the State Making Us Sign a Pledge
>>About Israel?
>>Nov. 22, 2021
>>https://web.archive.org/web/20220202160504/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/22/opinion/israel-arkansas-bds-pledge.html

>>U.S. judges decide against Arkansas Times
>>Panel upholds boycott suit dismissal

>Court of Appeals < Supreme Court

I've got to say I'm disappointed in that appellate court ruling, that it
prohibits economic decisions that don't implicate the First Amendment. I
certainly don't agree with that.

>NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware, 458 U.S. 886 (1982), the Supreme Court
>ruled that although states have broad power to regulate economic
>activities, they cannot prohibit peaceful advocacy of or participation
>in a politically motivated boycott.

>If bans on economic boycotts could be enforced, then every time some
>state passes a law that pisses off Hollywood-- no boys in girls
>bathrooms, no teaching CRT to schoolkids, no drag shows for
>kindergartners, no abortion without restriction, etc.-- and Hollywood
>says they'll no longer patronize that state by filming there, those
>studios and producers could be criminally charged.

>Hell, California itself is boycotting about 30 states right now,
>refusing to do business with them and prohibiting state-funded travel to
>them because they have the gall to pass their own laws without asking
>for the California government's approval first. (Except Emperor Newsom.
>The boycotts don't apply to him. He gets to spend Christmas in Montana
>because laws are for everyone else but him.)

>Texas could just pass an anti-boycott law making it a crime to boycott
>Texas and its businesses and then issue an arrest warrant for Newsom.

Perhaps Abbott doesn't wish to host Newsom?

>Of course none of that shit would actually happen because boycotts are
>protected 1st Amendment activity.

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 by: Pluted Pup - Mon, 13 Feb 2023 22:16 UTC

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 11:01:09 -0800, Rhino2 wrote:

> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:40:23 PM UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
> > > I found this a surprising - and concerning - development:
> > >
> > > https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-spencer/2023/02/10/another-mistake-woke-airbnb-bans-conservative-youtubers-parents-restores-them-after-outcry-n1669668
> >
> >
> >
> > > Punishing family members of people who speak or act out in some way is
> > > straight out of the Communist playbook.
> > 34 states make free speech rights to boycott Israel a crime
> >
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=34+states+make+free+speech+rights+to+boycott+Israel+a+crime
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > tags: dear American pussies, wake the fuck up
>
> You did a heck of a job hijacking my point! I was trying to make a completely DIFFERENT point. Next time, stay the fuck out of MY thread if you don't have a relevant contribution to make. Start your own damned thread if you want to rant about BDS.

It's related.

So would you defend AirBNB banning customers who support
boycotting Israel? Do they already do this but you find
nothing wrong in this?

Unlike you, I don't see any contradiction between the
political position of banning conservatives and the
position of banning Israel opponents and I can easily
imagine political organizations like AirBNB doing both.

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