postpoetry

although there's nothing left to say
we're gonna say it anyway
& if a reader doesn't read
we'll call him something we don't need
& if a critic calls it shit
we won't believe a word of it
& if a poet points that out
we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
about her frogs and trees and birds
so we won't have to read her words

or better yet let's write of war
and fill a page or two with gore
some reeking flesh a severed head
& maggots feasting on the dead
& if perchance that doesn't shock
let's add a line of fuck ass cock
motherfucker piss & shit
(who knows that just might pass for wit)

what else to do what else to say
when everything is mere cliche?
how else to make a reader feel
or think that what we say is real?
of course the whole idea is dumb
when we're as comfortably numb
but if we sweat through every motion
we may feel a real emotion –
at least it kills an hour or two
and we have nothing else to do.

~~
George J. Dance, 2007
from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>
> postpoetry
>
>
> although there's nothing left to say
> we're gonna say it anyway
> & if a reader doesn't read
> we'll call him something we don't need
> & if a critic calls it shit
> we won't believe a word of it
> & if a poet points that out
> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> about her frogs and trees and birds
> so we won't have to read her words
>
> or better yet let's write of war
> and fill a page or two with gore
> some reeking flesh a severed head
> & maggots feasting on the dead
> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> motherfucker piss & shit
> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>
> what else to do what else to say
> when everything is mere cliche?
> how else to make a reader feel
> or think that what we say is real?
> of course the whole idea is dumb
> when we're as comfortably numb
> but if we sweat through every motion
> we may feel a real emotion –
> at least it kills an hour or two
> and we have nothing else to do.
>
> ~~
> George J. Dance, 2007
> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015

Quite an interesting poem, G.D.

On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>
>> postpoetry
>>
>>
>> although there's nothing left to say
>> we're gonna say it anyway
>> & if a reader doesn't read
>> we'll call him something we don't need
>> & if a critic calls it shit
>> we won't believe a word of it
>> & if a poet points that out
>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>> so we won't have to read her words
>>
>> or better yet let's write of war
>> and fill a page or two with gore
>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>> motherfucker piss & shit
>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>>
>> what else to do what else to say
>> when everything is mere cliche?
>> how else to make a reader feel
>> or think that what we say is real?
>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>> when we're as comfortably numb
>> but if we sweat through every motion
>> we may feel a real emotion –
>> at least it kills an hour or two
>> and we have nothing else to do.
>>
>> ~~
>> George J. Dance, 2007
>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
>
> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.

Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>
>>> postpoetry
>>>
>>>
>>> although there's nothing left to say
>>> we're gonna say it anyway
>>> & if a reader doesn't read
>>> we'll call him something we don't need
>>> & if a critic calls it shit
>>> we won't believe a word of it
>>> & if a poet points that out
>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>>> so we won't have to read her words
>>>
>>> or better yet let's write of war
>>> and fill a page or two with gore
>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>>> motherfucker piss & shit
>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>>>
>>> what else to do what else to say
>>> when everything is mere cliche?
>>> how else to make a reader feel
>>> or think that what we say is real?
>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>>> when we're as comfortably numb
>>> but if we sweat through every motion
>>> we may feel a real emotion –
>>> at least it kills an hour or two
>>> and we have nothing else to do.
>>>
>>> ~~
>>> George J. Dance, 2007
>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
>>
>> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.

> Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.

I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to.

In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record straight, I appreciate that.

You might remind Senetto that I don't usually post personal and private information about my friends and family here.

Thanks again, and have a good day.

🙂

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:55:02 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>
> >> postpoetry
> >>
> >>
> >> although there's nothing left to say
> >> we're gonna say it anyway
> >> & if a reader doesn't read
> >> we'll call him something we don't need
> >> & if a critic calls it shit
> >> we won't believe a word of it
> >> & if a poet points that out
> >> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> >> about her frogs and trees and birds
> >> so we won't have to read her words
> >>
> >> or better yet let's write of war
> >> and fill a page or two with gore
> >> some reeking flesh a severed head
> >> & maggots feasting on the dead
> >> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> >> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> >> motherfucker piss & shit
> >> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> >>
> >> what else to do what else to say
> >> when everything is mere cliche?
> >> how else to make a reader feel
> >> or think that what we say is real?
> >> of course the whole idea is dumb
> >> when we're as comfortably numb
> >> but if we sweat through every motion
> >> we may feel a real emotion –
> >> at least it kills an hour or two
> >> and we have nothing else to do.
> >>
> >> ~~
> >> George J. Dance, 2007
> >> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> >
> > Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
> Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.

Since Stink routinely pronounces 9 out of 10 poems "interesting," what makes you think that he read it at all?

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:54:40 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
> > On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>
> >>> postpoetry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> although there's nothing left to say
> >>> we're gonna say it anyway
> >>> & if a reader doesn't read
> >>> we'll call him something we don't need
> >>> & if a critic calls it shit
> >>> we won't believe a word of it
> >>> & if a poet points that out
> >>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> >>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> >>> so we won't have to read her words
> >>>
> >>> or better yet let's write of war
> >>> and fill a page or two with gore
> >>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> >>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> >>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> >>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> >>> motherfucker piss & shit
> >>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> >>>
> >>> what else to do what else to say
> >>> when everything is mere cliche?
> >>> how else to make a reader feel
> >>> or think that what we say is real?
> >>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> >>> when we're as comfortably numb
> >>> but if we sweat through every motion
> >>> we may feel a real emotion –
> >>> at least it kills an hour or two
> >>> and we have nothing else to do.
> >>>
> >>> ~~
> >>> George J. Dance, 2007
> >>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> >>
> >> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
>
>
> > Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
> I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to.
>
> In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record straight, I appreciate that.
>
> You might remind Senetto that I don't usually post personal and private information about my friends and family here.
>
> Thanks again, and have a good day.

Funny how you've neglected to comment on the poem (which you claim to have read), but instead change the topic to... wait for it... Will Dockery.

On 2022-10-20 9:24 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
>> On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4,
>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>
>>>> postpoetry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> although there's nothing left to say
>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
>>>> we won't believe a word of it
>>>> & if a poet points that out
>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>>>> so we won't have to read her words
>>>>
>>>> or better yet let's write of war
>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>>>>
>>>> what else to do what else to say
>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
>>>> how else to make a reader feel
>>>> or think that what we say is real?
>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
>>>>
>>>> ~~
>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
>>>
>>> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
>
>
>> Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
>
> I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively
> creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to.
>
> In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record
> straight, I appreciate that.

I also wanted to set the record straight on his "Nelly Black" thread,
reminding him that it was Michael Monkey Pendragon who equated your
music with the Beatles (with Ms Black's on a lower level). But I haven't
found the thread to cite. Perhaps you or Zod could find it for me?

> You might remind Senetto that I don't usually post personal and private
> information about my friends and family here.
>

I think it may come up. It does explain why he's post(edit)ing your
20-year-old conversations from rec.arts.poems.

> Thanks again, and have a good day.
>
> 🙂

Thank you, Will; same to you.

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:23:00 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:54:40 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > George J. Dance wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> postpoetry
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> although there's nothing left to say
> > >>> we're gonna say it anyway
> > >>> & if a reader doesn't read
> > >>> we'll call him something we don't need
> > >>> & if a critic calls it shit
> > >>> we won't believe a word of it
> > >>> & if a poet points that out
> > >>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> > >>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> > >>> so we won't have to read her words
> > >>>
> > >>> or better yet let's write of war
> > >>> and fill a page or two with gore
> > >>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> > >>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> > >>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> > >>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> > >>> motherfucker piss & shit
> > >>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> > >>>
> > >>> what else to do what else to say
> > >>> when everything is mere cliche?
> > >>> how else to make a reader feel
> > >>> or think that what we say is real?
> > >>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> > >>> when we're as comfortably numb
> > >>> but if we sweat through every motion
> > >>> we may feel a real emotion –
> > >>> at least it kills an hour or two
> > >>> and we have nothing else to do.
> > >>>
> > >>> ~~
> > >>> George J. Dance, 2007
> > >>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> > >>
> > >> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
> >
> >
> > > Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
> > I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to.
> >
> > In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record straight, I appreciate that.
> >
> > You might remind Senetto that I don't usually post personal and private information about my friends and family here.
> >
> > Thanks again, and have a good day.
> Funny how you've neglected to comment on the poem (which you claim to have read), but instead change the topic to... wait for it... Will Dockery.

In response to your boy Jim Senetto's latest flood of obsessive Will Dockery threads, Pendragon.

HTH and HAND.

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:26:43 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-20 9:24 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> > George J. Dance wrote:
> >
> >> On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4,
> >>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> postpoetry
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> although there's nothing left to say
> >>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> >>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> >>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> >>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> >>>> we won't believe a word of it
> >>>> & if a poet points that out
> >>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> >>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> >>>> so we won't have to read her words
> >>>>
> >>>> or better yet let's write of war
> >>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> >>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> >>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> >>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> >>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> >>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> >>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> >>>>
> >>>> what else to do what else to say
> >>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> >>>> how else to make a reader feel
> >>>> or think that what we say is real?
> >>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> >>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> >>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> >>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> >>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> >>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> >>>>
> >>>> ~~
> >>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> >>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> >>>
> >>> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
> >
> >
> >> Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
> >
> > I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively
> > creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to.
> >
> > In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record
> > straight, I appreciate that.
> I also wanted to set the record straight on his "Nelly Black" thread,
> reminding him that it was Michael Monkey Pendragon who equated your

Why are you calling me "Monkey," George?

I have not called you any such names.

According to your "ethical" philosophy of "Tit for Tat," you should be treating me as I treat you.

Or have you abandoned your "ethics" for good old fashioned trolling?

> music with the Beatles (with Ms Black's on a lower level). But I haven't
> found the thread to cite. Perhaps you or Zod could find it for me?
> > You might remind Senetto that I don't usually post personal and private
> > information about my friends and family here.
> >
> I think it may come up. It does explain why he's post(edit)ing your
> 20-year-old conversations from rec.arts.poems.
> > Thanks again, and have a good day.
> >
> > 🙂
> Thank you, Will; same to you.

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:38:16 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-20 9:47 a.m., jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:43:53 AM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:34:08 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>> On 2022-10-20 8:28 a.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:02:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>> On 2022-10-19 8:50 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 4:12:42 PM UTC-5, opb...@yahoo.com
> >>>>> wrote:> and you know… that over the years, I HAVE

<Troll snipped>

> >>>>> Why are you post-editing 20-year old conversations from rec.arts.poems,
> >>>>> Chimp?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Will Dockery...16 years ago
> >>>>
> >>>> "I consider myself, above all else, an entertainer, and many people do dig a
> >>>> kick-ass folk-rock performance.
> >>>>
> >>>> Musicians see what I'm all about and want a piece of that action, and I'm a
> >>>> free agent to bring my "special guest star" to anyone who calls my name, to
> >>>> climb onstage and reach into my bag of tricks.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's a great, bumpy and wild ride being Will Dockery, and I wouldn't trade
> >>>> it for all the world's gold."
> >>>>
> >>> He sounds like someone happy with his life. No wonder you envy and
> >>> resent him so.
> >> Nothing better

<Malicious lies and misrepresentations from Jim Senetto snipped>
> >> There is nothing else to know about Will Dockery.

As if you'd ever stop obsessing over me, Senetto?
> > actually, there's plenty of other explanations that are possible... perhaps he was grieving and was too sad and distressed to share the info here... or perhaps he felt that the info was too personal and wouldn't be recieved with sympathy and support in a group that is quite often toxic and malicious and nasty and mean spirited and hateful...
> Thank you, Jordy; those are all good hypotheses. But I'm afraid you left
> out the most obvious one:
>
> He didn't want ace reporter "Edward Rochester" post-editing his comments
> and putting them in a trollthread.

Well put, George.

(Moved from the troll thread.)

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:26:43 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-20 9:24 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> > George J. Dance wrote:
> >
> >> On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4,
> >>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> postpoetry
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> although there's nothing left to say
> >>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> >>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> >>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> >>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> >>>> we won't believe a word of it
> >>>> & if a poet points that out
> >>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> >>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> >>>> so we won't have to read her words
> >>>>
> >>>> or better yet let's write of war
> >>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> >>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> >>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> >>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> >>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> >>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> >>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> >>>>
> >>>> what else to do what else to say
> >>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> >>>> how else to make a reader feel
> >>>> or think that what we say is real?
> >>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> >>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> >>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> >>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> >>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> >>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> >>>>
> >>>> ~~
> >>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> >>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> >>>
> >>> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
> >
> >
> >> Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
> >
> > I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively
> > creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to.
> >
> > In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record
> > straight, I appreciate that.
> I also wanted to set the record straight on his "Nelly Black" thread,
> reminding him that it was Michael Monkey Pendragon who equated your
> music with the Beatles (with Ms Black's on a lower level). But I haven't
> found the thread to cite. Perhaps you or Zod could find it for me?
> > You might remind Senetto that I don't usually post personal and private
> > information about my friends and family here.
> >
> I think it may come up. It does explain why he's post(edit)ing your
> 20-year-old conversations from rec.arts.poems.
> > Thanks again, and have a good day.
> >
>
> Thank you, Will; same to you.

You mean Pendragon's thread about Nelly Black, The Beatles, and so on?

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:02:28 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:26:43 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-10-20 9:24 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> > > George J. Dance wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
> > >>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4,
> > >>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> postpoetry
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> although there's nothing left to say
> > >>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> > >>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> > >>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> > >>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> > >>>> we won't believe a word of it
> > >>>> & if a poet points that out
> > >>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> > >>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> > >>>> so we won't have to read her words
> > >>>>
> > >>>> or better yet let's write of war
> > >>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> > >>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> > >>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> > >>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> > >>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> > >>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> > >>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> what else to do what else to say
> > >>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> > >>>> how else to make a reader feel
> > >>>> or think that what we say is real?
> > >>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> > >>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> > >>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> > >>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> > >>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> > >>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ~~
> > >>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> > >>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> > >>>
> > >>> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
> > >
> > > I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively
> > > creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to..
> > >
> > > In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record
> > > straight, I appreciate that.
> > I also wanted to set the record straight on his "Nelly Black" thread,
> > reminding him that it was Michael Monkey Pendragon who equated your
> > music with the Beatles (with Ms Black's on a lower level). But I haven't
> > found the thread to cite. Perhaps you or Zod could find it for me?
> > > You might remind Senetto that I don't usually post personal and private
> > > information about my friends and family here.
> > >
> > I think it may come up. It does explain why he's post(edit)ing your
> > 20-year-old conversations from rec.arts.poems.
> > > Thanks again, and have a good day.
> > >
> >
> > Thank you, Will; same to you.
> You mean Pendragon's thread about Nelly Black, The Beatles, and so on?

Another one bites the dust. Thread reported. No offense intended.

On 2022-10-20 10:47 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:26:43 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-10-20 9:24 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4,
>>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> postpoetry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> although there's nothing left to say
>>>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
>>>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
>>>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
>>>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
>>>>>> we won't believe a word of it
>>>>>> & if a poet points that out
>>>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>>>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>>>>>> so we won't have to read her words
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or better yet let's write of war
>>>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
>>>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>>>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>>>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>>>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>>>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
>>>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what else to do what else to say
>>>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
>>>>>> how else to make a reader feel
>>>>>> or think that what we say is real?
>>>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>>>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
>>>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
>>>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
>>>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
>>>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~~
>>>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
>>>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
>>>
>>> I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively
>>> creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to.
>>>
>>> In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record
>>> straight, I appreciate that.
>> I also wanted to set the record straight on his "Nelly Black" thread,
>> reminding him that it was Michael Monkey Pendragon who equated your
>
> Why are you calling me "Monkey," George?
>

Relax; I'll normally shorten it to "MMP" or "Michael".

> I have not called you any such names.
>

True. But you called Zod a name; and according to you he and I are on
the same team. So we're playing Team T4T (TT4T), by your choice.

> According to your "ethical" philosophy of "Tit for Tat," you should be treating me as I treat you.
>

According to my philosophy, sure, because I'm an individualist.
But "there's no I in team," as I'm sure you've heard. Teams are
collectives, and to be a team player one has to act like a collectivist.

> Or have you abandoned your "ethics" for good old fashioned trolling?

Only inside the game. It's no different from defending a position or a
person, in a debate, that one considers unethical.

>> music with the Beatles (with Ms Black's on a lower level). But I haven't
>> found the thread to cite. Perhaps you or Zod could find it for me?

Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?

>>> You might remind Senetto that I don't usually post personal and private
>>> information about my friends and family here.
>>>
>> I think it may come up. It does explain why he's post(edit)ing your
>> 20-year-old conversations from rec.arts.poems.
>>> Thanks again, and have a good day.
>>>
>>> 🙂
>> Thank you, Will; same to you.

On 2022-10-20 11:02 a.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:26:43 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-10-20 9:24 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4,
>>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> postpoetry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> although there's nothing left to say
>>>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
>>>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
>>>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
>>>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
>>>>>> we won't believe a word of it
>>>>>> & if a poet points that out
>>>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>>>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>>>>>> so we won't have to read her words
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or better yet let's write of war
>>>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
>>>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>>>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>>>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>>>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>>>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
>>>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what else to do what else to say
>>>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
>>>>>> how else to make a reader feel
>>>>>> or think that what we say is real?
>>>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>>>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
>>>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
>>>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
>>>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
>>>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~~
>>>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
>>>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
>>>
>>> I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively
>>> creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to.
>>>
>>> In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record
>>> straight, I appreciate that.
>> I also wanted to set the record straight on his "Nelly Black" thread,
>> reminding him that it was Michael Monkey Pendragon who equated your
>> music with the Beatles (with Ms Black's on a lower level). But I haven't
>> found the thread to cite. Perhaps you or Zod could find it for me?

snip

>
> You mean Pendragon's thread about Nelly Black, The Beatles, and so on?

Yes, of course, that one. I don't have time to look for it, so I'm
asking others on the group if they can help.

On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>
>> postpoetry
>>
>>
>> although there's nothing left to say
>> we're gonna say it anyway
>> & if a reader doesn't read
>> we'll call him something we don't need
>> & if a critic calls it shit
>> we won't believe a word of it
>> & if a poet points that out
>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>> so we won't have to read her words
>>
>> or better yet let's write of war
>> and fill a page or two with gore
>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>> motherfucker piss & shit
>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>>
>> what else to do what else to say
>> when everything is mere cliche?
>> how else to make a reader feel
>> or think that what we say is real?
>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>> when we're as comfortably numb
>> but if we sweat through every motion
>> we may feel a real emotion –
>> at least it kills an hour or two
>> and we have nothing else to do.
>>
>> ~~
>> George J. Dance, 2007
>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
>
> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.

Thanks, Zod. Let's talk about it.

Did you watch the video Spam-a-Lot posted on "Interpretive Voice" last
week? In case you missed it, I'll post it here. It's a good explanation
of one thing I was trying to do in this poem.

Identifying and interpreting a poet's voice
https://youtu.be/_sDW8J7D-kY

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-20 11:02 a.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:26:43 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>> On 2022-10-20 9:24 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4,
>>>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> postpoetry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> although there's nothing left to say
>>>>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
>>>>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
>>>>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
>>>>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
>>>>>>> we won't believe a word of it
>>>>>>> & if a poet points that out
>>>>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>>>>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>>>>>>> so we won't have to read her words
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or better yet let's write of war
>>>>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
>>>>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>>>>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>>>>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>>>>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>>>>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
>>>>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what else to do what else to say
>>>>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
>>>>>>> how else to make a reader feel
>>>>>>> or think that what we say is real?
>>>>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>>>>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
>>>>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
>>>>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
>>>>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
>>>>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~~
>>>>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
>>>>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
>>>>
>>>> I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively
>>>> creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to.
>>>>
>>>> In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record
>>>> straight, I appreciate that.
>>> I also wanted to set the record straight on his "Nelly Black" thread,
>>> reminding him that it was Michael Monkey Pendragon who equated your
>>> music with the Beatles (with Ms Black's on a lower level). But I haven't
>>> found the thread to cite. Perhaps you or Zod could find it for me?

> snip

>>
>> You mean Pendragon's thread about Nelly Black, The Beatles, and so on?

> Yes, of course, that one. I don't have time to look for it, so I'm
> asking others on the group if they can help.

It spread out over a couple of threads so some of it should be archived.

Pendragon may have deleted his posts.

On 2022-10-20 11:11 a.m., Spam-I-Am wrote:
>
> Another one bites the dust. Thread reported. No offense intended.

Pity; we were just getting to that "Interpretive Voice" video you posted.

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-20 10:47 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:26:43 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-20 9:24 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> >>> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4,
> >>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> postpoetry
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> although there's nothing left to say
> >>>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> >>>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> >>>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> >>>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> >>>>>> we won't believe a word of it
> >>>>>> & if a poet points that out
> >>>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> >>>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> >>>>>> so we won't have to read her words
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> or better yet let's write of war
> >>>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> >>>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> >>>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> >>>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> >>>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> >>>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> >>>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> what else to do what else to say
> >>>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> >>>>>> how else to make a reader feel
> >>>>>> or think that what we say is real?
> >>>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> >>>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> >>>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> >>>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> >>>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> >>>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ~~
> >>>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> >>>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
> >>>
> >>> I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively
> >>> creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to..
> >>>
> >>> In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record
> >>> straight, I appreciate that.
> >> I also wanted to set the record straight on his "Nelly Black" thread,
> >> reminding him that it was Michael Monkey Pendragon who equated your
> >
> > Why are you calling me "Monkey," George?
> >
> Relax; I'll normally shorten it to "MMP" or "Michael".
> > I have not called you any such names.
> >
> True. But you called Zod a name; and according to you he and I are on
> the same team. So we're playing Team T4T (TT4T), by your choice.

In which case, such a response on your part can only mean that you consider yourself to be a member of Stink's team.

> > According to your "ethical" philosophy of "Tit for Tat," you should be treating me as I treat you.
> >
> According to my philosophy, sure, because I'm an individualist.
> But "there's no I in team," as I'm sure you've heard. Teams are
> collectives, and to be a team player one has to act like a collectivist.

Again, your behavior can only be justified by your perception that you are part of an actual team.

> > Or have you abandoned your "ethics" for good old fashioned trolling?
> Only inside the game. It's no different from defending a position or a
> person, in a debate, that one considers unethical.

IOW: My opinion that you had officially become a part of "Team Donkey" as correct.

> >> music with the Beatles (with Ms Black's on a lower level). But I haven't
> >> found the thread to cite. Perhaps you or Zod could find it for me?
> Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
> favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?

No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.

I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moral sensibilities).

> >>> You might remind Senetto that I don't usually post personal and private
> >>> information about my friends and family here.
> >>>
> >> I think it may come up. It does explain why he's post(edit)ing your
> >> 20-year-old conversations from rec.arts.poems.
> >>> Thanks again, and have a good day.
> >>>
> >>> 🙂
> >> Thank you, Will; same to you.

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-20 11:11 a.m., Spam-I-Am wrote:
>>
>> Another one bites the dust. Thread reported. No offense intended.

> Pity; we were just getting to that "Interpretive Voice" video you posted.

As if Pastor Corey would have anything to add, anyway.

🙂

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>
>>> postpoetry
>>>
>>>
>>> although there's nothing left to say
>>> we're gonna say it anyway
>>> & if a reader doesn't read
>>> we'll call him something we don't need
>>> & if a critic calls it shit
>>> we won't believe a word of it
>>> & if a poet points that out
>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>>> so we won't have to read her words
>>>
>>> or better yet let's write of war
>>> and fill a page or two with gore
>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>>> motherfucker piss & shit
>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>>>
>>> what else to do what else to say
>>> when everything is mere cliche?
>>> how else to make a reader feel
>>> or think that what we say is real?
>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>>> when we're as comfortably numb
>>> but if we sweat through every motion
>>> we may feel a real emotion –
>>> at least it kills an hour or two
>>> and we have nothing else to do.
>>>
>>> ~~
>>> George J. Dance, 2007
>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
>>
>> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.

> Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.

Yes, I read most of the good poetry here...

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:29:45 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-20 11:02 a.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:26:43 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-20 9:24 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> >>> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4,
> >>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> postpoetry
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> although there's nothing left to say
> >>>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> >>>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> >>>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> >>>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> >>>>>> we won't believe a word of it
> >>>>>> & if a poet points that out
> >>>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> >>>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> >>>>>> so we won't have to read her words
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> or better yet let's write of war
> >>>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> >>>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> >>>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> >>>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> >>>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> >>>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> >>>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> what else to do what else to say
> >>>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> >>>>>> how else to make a reader feel
> >>>>>> or think that what we say is real?
> >>>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> >>>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> >>>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> >>>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> >>>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> >>>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ~~
> >>>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> >>>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
> >>>
> >>> I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively
> >>> creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to..
> >>>
> >>> In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record
> >>> straight, I appreciate that.
> >> I also wanted to set the record straight on his "Nelly Black" thread,
> >> reminding him that it was Michael Monkey Pendragon who equated your
> >> music with the Beatles (with Ms Black's on a lower level). But I haven't
> >> found the thread to cite. Perhaps you or Zod could find it for me?
> snip
> >
> > You mean Pendragon's thread about Nelly Black, The Beatles, and so on?
> Yes, of course, that one. I don't have time to look for it, so I'm
> asking others on the group if they can help.

I'll see if I can find one of the threads and bump it up.

:)

On 2022-10-20 5:01 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:29:45 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-10-20 11:02 a.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:26:43 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-10-20 9:24 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4,
>>>>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> postpoetry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> although there's nothing left to say
>>>>>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
>>>>>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
>>>>>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
>>>>>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
>>>>>>>> we won't believe a word of it
>>>>>>>> & if a poet points that out
>>>>>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>>>>>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>>>>>>>> so we won't have to read her words
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or better yet let's write of war
>>>>>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
>>>>>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>>>>>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>>>>>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>>>>>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>>>>>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
>>>>>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what else to do what else to say
>>>>>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
>>>>>>>> how else to make a reader feel
>>>>>>>> or think that what we say is real?
>>>>>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>>>>>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
>>>>>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
>>>>>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
>>>>>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
>>>>>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~~
>>>>>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
>>>>>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively
>>>>> creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to.
>>>>>
>>>>> In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record
>>>>> straight, I appreciate that.
>>>> I also wanted to set the record straight on his "Nelly Black" thread,
>>>> reminding him that it was Michael Monkey Pendragon who equated your
>>>> music with the Beatles (with Ms Black's on a lower level). But I haven't
>>>> found the thread to cite. Perhaps you or Zod could find it for me?
>> snip
>>>
>>> You mean Pendragon's thread about Nelly Black, The Beatles, and so on?
>> Yes, of course, that one. I don't have time to look for it, so I'm
>> asking others on the group if they can help.
>
> I'll see if I can find one of the threads and bump it up.

No need now. He's given me a current quotation I can cite.

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-20 5:01 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:29:45 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>> On 2022-10-20 11:02 a.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:26:43 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-10-20 9:24 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4,
>>>>>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> postpoetry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> although there's nothing left to say
>>>>>>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
>>>>>>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
>>>>>>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
>>>>>>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
>>>>>>>>> we won't believe a word of it
>>>>>>>>> & if a poet points that out
>>>>>>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>>>>>>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>>>>>>>>> so we won't have to read her words
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or better yet let's write of war
>>>>>>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
>>>>>>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>>>>>>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>>>>>>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>>>>>>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>>>>>>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
>>>>>>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> what else to do what else to say
>>>>>>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
>>>>>>>>> how else to make a reader feel
>>>>>>>>> or think that what we say is real?
>>>>>>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>>>>>>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
>>>>>>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
>>>>>>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
>>>>>>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
>>>>>>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~~
>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
>>>>>>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively
>>>>>> creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record
>>>>>> straight, I appreciate that.
>>>>> I also wanted to set the record straight on his "Nelly Black" thread,
>>>>> reminding him that it was Michael Monkey Pendragon who equated your
>>>>> music with the Beatles (with Ms Black's on a lower level). But I haven't
>>>>> found the thread to cite. Perhaps you or Zod could find it for me?
>>> snip
>>>>
>>>> You mean Pendragon's thread about Nelly Black, The Beatles, and so on?
>>> Yes, of course, that one. I don't have time to look for it, so I'm
>>> asking others on the group if they can help.
>>
>> I'll see if I can find one of the threads and bump it up.

> No need now. He's given me a current quotation I can cite.

I might look it up anyway, it's been years since I read the thread.

🙂

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> postpoetry
>
>
> although there's nothing left to say
> we're gonna say it anyway
> & if a reader doesn't read
> we'll call him something we don't need
> & if a critic calls it shit
> we won't believe a word of it
> & if a poet points that out
> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> about her frogs and trees and birds
> so we won't have to read her words
>
> or better yet let's write of war
> and fill a page or two with gore
> some reeking flesh a severed head
> & maggots feasting on the dead
> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> motherfucker piss & shit
> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>
> what else to do what else to say
> when everything is mere cliche?
> how else to make a reader feel
> or think that what we say is real?
> of course the whole idea is dumb
> when we're as comfortably numb
> but if we sweat through every motion
> we may feel a real emotion –
> at least it kills an hour or two
> and we have nothing else to do.
>
> ~~
> George J. Dance, 2007
> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015

I'm not sitting here wishing for your death,
but I do wish you'd learn to hold your breath.
It's so obnoxious, the dead are awake.
Your teeth are a hammer, your tongue a snake.
All of the shit that comes out of your mouth
smells like it came from the hole that's down south.

Robert Burrows wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>
>> postpoetry
>>
>>
>> although there's nothing left to say
>> we're gonna say it anyway
>> & if a reader doesn't read
>> we'll call him something we don't need
>> & if a critic calls it shit
>> we won't believe a word of it
>> & if a poet points that out
>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>> so we won't have to read her words
>>
>> or better yet let's write of war
>> and fill a page or two with gore
>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>> motherfucker piss & shit
>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>>
>> what else to do what else to say
>> when everything is mere cliche?
>> how else to make a reader feel
>> or think that what we say is real?
>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>> when we're as comfortably numb
>> but if we sweat through every motion
>> we may feel a real emotion –
>> at least it kills an hour or two
>> and we have nothing else to do.
>>
>> ~~
>> George J. Dance, 2007
>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015

> I'm not sitting here wishing for your death,
> but I do wish you'd learn to hold your breath.
> It's so obnoxious, the dead are awake.
> Your teeth are a hammer, your tongue a snake.
> All of the shit that comes out of your mouth
> smells like it came from the hole that's down south.

Pretty good poetry, Robert.

Welcome back.

🙂