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Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
-- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394

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On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 04:21:45 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
<bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

>Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>-- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394

Which is no surprise as the system was programmed to ignore anything
below a certain size and speed. Which fit any sort of balloon like a
"weather" balloon. Same was true for the Biden administration up until
they became a public spectacle and so couldn't be ignored.

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Subject: Re: BBC 'Trump Era Chinese spy balloons went undetected'
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 by: bruce bowser - Wed, 15 Feb 2023 13:51 UTC

On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 8:24:17 AM UTC-5, shawn wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 04:21:45 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
> >BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
> >-- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
> Which is no surprise as the system was programmed to ignore anything
> below a certain size and speed. Which fit any sort of balloon like a
> "weather" balloon. Same was true for the Biden administration up until
> they became a public spectacle and so couldn't be ignored.

Trump administration set the "spectacle" high water mark though, not Biden. What's your excuse with Trump letting-in aRussian spy-plane?

Russian Spy Plane Trolls Trump With Flight Over D.C., New Jersey
Politico - Aug 9, 2017
-- https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/09/russia-military-spy-plane-dc-241455

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 by: trotsky - Wed, 15 Feb 2023 23:43 UTC

On 2/15/23 7:51 AM, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 8:24:17 AM UTC-5, shawn wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 04:21:45 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
>> <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>>> -- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>> Which is no surprise as the system was programmed to ignore anything
>> below a certain size and speed. Which fit any sort of balloon like a
>> "weather" balloon. Same was true for the Biden administration up until
>> they became a public spectacle and so couldn't be ignored.
>
> Trump administration set the "spectacle" high water mark though, not Biden. What's your excuse with Trump letting-in aRussian spy-plane?
>
> Russian Spy Plane Trolls Trump With Flight Over D.C., New Jersey
> Politico - Aug 9, 2017
> -- https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/09/russia-military-spy-plane-dc-241455

These guys lack the spine and testicles to talk about Trump of course.

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On 2/16/23 1:21 AM, RichA wrote:
> On Wednesday, 15 February 2023 at 07:21:48 UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>> -- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>
> Not believable. They have amateur telescope images showing clear details of the ISS and it's 240 MILES up there or 1,270.000ft, not the 40,000-60,000 the balloons fly at. At 50,000ft, the resolution of a small telescope (six inch aperture) is 3 inches which means anything would have been visible balloon or carried package.

What the fuck does "anything would have been visible balloon or carried
package" mean?
\ \

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"trotsky" wrote:

> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394

Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
miserable failures again!

#FakeNews

--
Let's go Brandon!

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 by: bruce bowser - Thu, 16 Feb 2023 17:14 UTC

On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
> "trotsky" wrote:
>
> > Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
> > BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
> > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>
> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
> miserable failures again!

And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?

> #FakeNew

Proof? No.

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On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
<bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>
>> > Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>> > BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>> > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>>
>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
>> miserable failures again!
>
>And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?

What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
>
>> #FakeNew
>
>Proof? No.

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 by: moviePig - Fri, 17 Feb 2023 15:59 UTC

On 2/17/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>>>
>>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
>>> miserable failures again!
>>
>> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
>
> What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
> balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
>>...

It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:

The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
VanHerck...

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 by: shawn - Fri, 17 Feb 2023 18:46 UTC

On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:59:36 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
wrote:

>On 2/17/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
>> <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>>>>
>>>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
>>>> miserable failures again!
>>>
>>> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
>>
>> What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
>> balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
>>>...
>
>It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:
>
> The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
>VanHerck...
>

I don't know but it is entirely possible that the radar data from back
that was stored away and has been rerun with the new, less strict,
filters in place. If so then they would be able to tell just how long
the Chinese have been sending these "weather ballons" over.

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 by: trotsky - Sat, 18 Feb 2023 10:11 UTC

On 2/16/23 5:03 PM, RichA wrote:
> On Thursday, 16 February 2023 at 06:35:00 UTC-5, trotsky wrote:
>> On 2/16/23 1:21 AM, RichA wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 15 February 2023 at 07:21:48 UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>>>> -- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>>>
>>> Not believable. They have amateur telescope images showing clear details of the ISS and it's 240 MILES up there or 1,270.000ft, not the 40,000-60,000 the balloons fly at. At 50,000ft, the resolution of a small telescope (six inch aperture) is 3 inches which means anything would have been visible balloon or carried package.
>> What the fuck does "anything would have been visible balloon or carried
>> package" mean?
>> \
>> \
>
> How stupid can you possibly be?

So you're unable to answer the question? Yeah, that tracks. Just like
a balloon!

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 by: trotsky - Sat, 18 Feb 2023 10:32 UTC

On 2/16/23 11:14 AM, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>
>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>>
>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
>> miserable failures again!
>
> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
>
>> #FakeNew
>
> Proof? No.

In Pubie's pile of dog shit he calls a brain shitposting is fact.

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:59:36 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
wrote:

>On 2/17/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
>> <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>>>>
>>>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
>>>> miserable failures again!
>>>
>>> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
>>
>> What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
>> balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
>>>...
>
>It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:
>
> The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
>VanHerck...
>

So...how do they know they were there if they weren't detected?

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 13:46:43 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:59:36 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 2/17/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
>>> <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>>>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
>>>>> miserable failures again!
>>>>
>>>> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
>>>
>>> What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
>>> balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
>>>>...
>>
>>It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:
>>
>> The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
>>VanHerck...
>>
>
>I don't know but it is entirely possible that the radar data from back
>that was stored away and has been rerun with the new, less strict,
>filters in place. If so then they would be able to tell just how long
>the Chinese have been sending these "weather ballons" over.

Speculation is not evidence.

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>>>>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>>>>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:
>>>
>>> The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
>>>VanHerck...
>>
>>I don't know but it is entirely possible that the radar data from back
>>that was stored away and has been rerun with the new, less strict,
>>filters in place. If so then they would be able to tell just how long
>>the Chinese have been sending these "weather ballons" over.

dammit, that's what Major Keller almost pulled off
way back in "The Invaders" episode "Condition: Red".

Fortunately, the NORAD Commander listened to David Vincent
just in time and used a backup programming tape on
the Radars.

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In article <les1vhh9llr7ojvorb7h6nls92a2boidv2@4ax.com>, NoBody
<NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:59:36 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 2/17/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
> >> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> >> <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
> >>>> "trotsky" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
> >>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
> >>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
> >>>> miserable failures again!
> >>>
> >>> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
> >>
> >> What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
> >> balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
> >>>...
> >
> >It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:
> >
> > The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
> >VanHerck...
> >
>
> So...how do they know they were there if they weren't detected?

They ... keep records of everything, went over those records, and found
the balloons.

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On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 11:41:52 -0500, A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:

>In article <les1vhh9llr7ojvorb7h6nls92a2boidv2@4ax.com>, NoBody
><NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:59:36 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2/17/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
>> >> <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> >>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>> >>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>> >>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
>> >>>> miserable failures again!
>> >>>
>> >>> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
>> >>
>> >> What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
>> >> balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
>> >>>...
>> >
>> >It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:
>> >
>> > The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
>> >VanHerck...
>> >
>>
>> So...how do they know they were there if they weren't detected?
>
>
>
>They ... keep records of everything, went over those records, and found
>the balloons.

Citations and specifics?

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 by: A Friend - Sun, 19 Feb 2023 15:57 UTC

In article <kfg4vh10gai3rkckt2ubvut986utehkoqt@4ax.com>, NoBody
<NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 11:41:52 -0500, A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <les1vhh9llr7ojvorb7h6nls92a2boidv2@4ax.com>, NoBody
> ><NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:59:36 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 2/17/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> >> >> <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
> >> >>>> "trotsky" wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
> >> >>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
> >> >>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke
> >> >>>> Biden's
> >> >>>> miserable failures again!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
> >> >>
> >> >> What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
> >> >> balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
> >> >>>...
> >> >
> >> >It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:
> >> >
> >> > The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
> >> >VanHerck...
> >> >
> >>
> >> So...how do they know they were there if they weren't detected?
> >
> >
> >
> >They ... keep records of everything, went over those records, and found
> >the balloons.
>
> Citations and specifics?

Why would I waste my time providing those? You'd just walk away.

What there is, is on the record, and easily found.

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 by: bruce bowser - Sun, 19 Feb 2023 16:10 UTC

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:36:44 AM UTC-5, NoBody wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 11:41:52 -0500, A Friend <no...@noway.com> wrote:
> >In article <les1vhh9llr7ojvor...@4ax.com>, NoBody
> ><NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:59:36 -0500, moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >On 2/17/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> >> >> <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
> >> >>>> "trotsky" wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
> >> >>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
> >> >>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
> >> >>>> miserable failures again!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
> >> >>
> >> >> What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
> >> >> balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
> >> >>>...
> >> >
> >> >It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:
> >> >
> >> > The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
> >> >VanHerck...
> >>
> >> So...how do they know they were there if they weren't detected?
> >
> >They ... keep records of everything, went over those records, and found
> >the balloons.
> Citations and specifics?

You're saying that they're lazy and don't keep these records, then?

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On 2/19/23 10:10 AM, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:36:44 AM UTC-5, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 11:41:52 -0500, A Friend <no...@noway.com> wrote:
>>> In article <les1vhh9llr7ojvor...@4ax.com>, NoBody
>>> <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:59:36 -0500, moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 2/17/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
>>>>>> <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>>>>>>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
>>>>>>>> miserable failures again!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
>>>>>> balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:
>>>>>
>>>>> The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
>>>>> VanHerck...
>>>>
>>>> So...how do they know they were there if they weren't detected?
>>>
>>> They ... keep records of everything, went over those records, and found
>>> the balloons.
>> Citations and specifics?
>
> You're saying that they're lazy and don't keep these records, then?

He's saying his brain is reading "Tilt" like a pinball machine, as usual.

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On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 10:57:38 -0500, A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:

>In article <kfg4vh10gai3rkckt2ubvut986utehkoqt@4ax.com>, NoBody
><NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 11:41:52 -0500, A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <les1vhh9llr7ojvorb7h6nls92a2boidv2@4ax.com>, NoBody
>> ><NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:59:36 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On 2/17/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
>> >> >> <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> >> >>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>> >> >>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>> >> >>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke
>> >> >>>> Biden's
>> >> >>>> miserable failures again!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
>> >> >> balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
>> >> >>>...
>> >> >
>> >> >It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:
>> >> >
>> >> > The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
>> >> >VanHerck...
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> So...how do they know they were there if they weren't detected?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >They ... keep records of everything, went over those records, and found
>> >the balloons.
>>
>> Citations and specifics?
>
>
>Why would I waste my time providing those? You'd just walk away.

Tramslation: You don't have them.

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On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 08:10:51 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
<bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:36:44 AM UTC-5, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 11:41:52 -0500, A Friend <no...@noway.com> wrote:
>> >In article <les1vhh9llr7ojvor...@4ax.com>, NoBody
>> ><NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:59:36 -0500, moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >On 2/17/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
>> >> >> <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> >> >>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>> >> >>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>> >> >>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
>> >> >>>> miserable failures again!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
>> >> >> balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
>> >> >>>...
>> >> >
>> >> >It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:
>> >> >
>> >> > The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
>> >> >VanHerck...
>> >>
>> >> So...how do they know they were there if they weren't detected?
>> >
>> >They ... keep records of everything, went over those records, and found
>> >the balloons.
>> Citations and specifics?
>
>You're saying that they're lazy and don't keep these records, then?

The claim was they went over the records and found balloons they
couldn't detect which is both incorrect and silly. How does one see
what isn't detected?

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 by: bruce bowser - Mon, 20 Feb 2023 20:01 UTC

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:50:50 AM UTC-5, trotsky wrote:
> On 2/19/23 10:10 AM, bruce bowser wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:36:44 AM UTC-5, NoBody wrote:
> >> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 11:41:52 -0500, A Friend <no...@noway.com> wrote:
> >>> In article <les1vhh9llr7ojvor...@4ax.com>, NoBody
> >>> <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:59:36 -0500, moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> On 2/17/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> >>>>>> <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
> >>>>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
> >>>>>>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
> >>>>>>>> miserable failures again!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
> >>>>>> balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
> >>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
> >>>>> VanHerck...
> >>>>
> >>>> So...how do they know they were there if they weren't detected?
> >>>
> >>> They ... keep records of everything, went over those records, and found
> >>> the balloons.
> >> Citations and specifics?
> >
> > You're saying that they're lazy and don't keep these records, then?
> He's saying his brain is reading "Tilt" like a pinball machine, as usual.

The cons in here have brains? Incredible.

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 by: A Friend - Mon, 20 Feb 2023 21:52 UTC

In article <3fo6vhtoq3bk4m2p7fqrqn6fdavthdsrgj@4ax.com>, NoBody
<NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 10:57:38 -0500, A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <kfg4vh10gai3rkckt2ubvut986utehkoqt@4ax.com>, NoBody
> ><NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 11:41:52 -0500, A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <les1vhh9llr7ojvorb7h6nls92a2boidv2@4ax.com>, NoBody
> >> ><NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:59:36 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On 2/17/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
> >> >> >> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> >> >> >> <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous
> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>> "trotsky" wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
> >> >> >>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
> >> >> >>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke
> >> >> >>>> Biden's
> >> >> >>>> miserable failures again!
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
> >> >> >> balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
> >> >> >>>...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
> >> >> >VanHerck...
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> So...how do they know they were there if they weren't detected?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >They ... keep records of everything, went over those records, and found
> >> >the balloons.
> >>
> >> Citations and specifics?
> >
> >
> >Why would I waste my time providing those? You'd just walk away.
>
> Tramslation: You don't have them.

No. You'd just walk away, as you do every time you're confronted.
You're free to look up this stuff yourself, but of course you're not
interested in that.

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 by: trotsky - Mon, 20 Feb 2023 23:08 UTC

On 2/20/23 2:01 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:50:50 AM UTC-5, trotsky wrote:
>> On 2/19/23 10:10 AM, bruce bowser wrote:
>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:36:44 AM UTC-5, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 11:41:52 -0500, A Friend <no...@noway.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article <les1vhh9llr7ojvor...@4ax.com>, NoBody
>>>>> <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:59:36 -0500, moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/17/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:14:11 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
>>>>>>>> <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:43:35 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Trump-era Chinese spy balloons went undetected -
>>>>>>>>>>> BBC News - Feb 7, 2023
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, there go leftists trying to shift blame for Resident Joke Biden's
>>>>>>>>>> miserable failures again!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And rightist trash like Rich and Ubi are denying BBC research?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What "research"? They asked an official saying we didn't detect
>>>>>>>> balloons. How does he know they were there if they weren't detected?
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a conundrum, all right. Oh, wait:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The US did not detect the balloons *AT THE TIME*, said Gen Glen
>>>>>>> VanHerck...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So...how do they know they were there if they weren't detected?
>>>>>
>>>>> They ... keep records of everything, went over those records, and found
>>>>> the balloons.
>>>> Citations and specifics?
>>>
>>> You're saying that they're lazy and don't keep these records, then?
>> He's saying his brain is reading "Tilt" like a pinball machine, as usual.
>
> The cons in here have brains? Incredible.

I use the term loosely.

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