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Subject: Re: 1st Season Dr. Who - Father's Day - 5 star poll - SPOILERS AHOY !
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 by: Daniel65 - Mon, 19 Jun 2023 10:43 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 19/6/23 7:42 am:
> In article <43a92200-c2b1-4fc0-91df-8fa84c2e4bf2n@googlegroups.com>,
> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The Doctor and Rose visited the moment of Pete's car accident
>> twice. If Rose had saved Peter during the first visit, could she
>> have gotten away with it?
>
> No!
>
Oh! Why do YOU, asswipe, state this??

I would think it would definately have been possible for Rose to have
saved her Dad on either occasion and have changed "Future History" in
doing so.

I can see problems if 'Rose 2' had saved Dad but still she COULD have
done it.
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Mon, 19 Jun 2023 12:32 UTC

tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 19/6/23 9:26 pm:
> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 3:43:20 AM UTC-7, Daniel65 wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 19/6/23 7:42 am:
>>> In article <43a92200-c2b1-4fc0...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The Doctor and Rose visited the moment of Pete's car accident
>>>> twice. If Rose had saved Peter during the first visit, could
>>>> she have gotten away with it?
>>>
>>> No!
>>>
>> Oh! Why do YOU, asswipe, state this??
>>
>> I would think it would definately have been possible for Rose to
>> have saved her Dad on either occasion and have changed "Future
>> History" in doing so.
>>
>> I can see problems if 'Rose 2' had saved Dad but still she COULD
>> have done it.
>
> Did you see the Time Monkey-Bats? That was from Rose TWO saving
> Pete. She had wounded reality, letting the Time Monkey-Bats in. But
> I think I heard someone say that the problem was caused by the Doctor
> and Rose showing up at the point in space-time twice, not
> specifically from the saving of Pete. If Rose had saved Pete the
> FIRST time she visited that space-time point, would reality still
> have been wounded?
>
Was Time seriously effected by the presence of the 'Time-Monkey-Bats'??
I think NOT!!
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Tue, 20 Jun 2023 11:08 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 20/6/23 12:05 am:
> In article <u6phse$22ljg$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 19/6/23 9:26 pm:
>>> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 3:43:20 AM UTC-7, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote on 19/6/23 7:42 am:
>>>>> In article <43a92200-c2b1-4fc0...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The Doctor and Rose visited the moment of Pete's car
>>>>>> accident twice. If Rose had saved Peter during the first
>>>>>> visit, could she have gotten away with it?
>>>>>
>>>>> No!
>>>>>
>>>> Oh! Why do YOU, asswipe, state this??
>>>>
>>>> I would think it would definately have been possible for Rose
>>>> to have saved her Dad on either occasion and have changed
>>>> "Future History" in doing so.
>>>>
>>>> I can see problems if 'Rose 2' had saved Dad but still she
>>>> COULD have done it.
>>>
>>> Did you see the Time Monkey-Bats? That was from Rose TWO saving
>>> Pete. She had wounded reality, letting the Time Monkey-Bats in.
>>> But I think I heard someone say that the problem was caused by
>>> the Doctor and Rose showing up at the point in space-time twice,
>>> not specifically from the saving of Pete. If Rose had saved Pete
>>> the FIRST time she visited that space-time point, would reality
>>> still have been wounded?
>>>
>> Was Time seriously effected by the presence of the
>> 'Time-Monkey-Bats'?? I think NOT!!
>
> effected?
>
Yes, asswipe!!
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Tue, 20 Jun 2023 11:10 UTC

tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 20/6/23 7:50 pm:
> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 4:43:14 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
>> In article <30b94d8a-a987-42bb...@googlegroups.com>,
>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 5:32:17 AM UTC-7, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 19/6/23 9:26 pm:
>>>>> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 3:43:20 AM UTC-7, Daniel65
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 19/6/23 7:42 am:
>>>>>>> In article <43a92200-c2b1-4fc0...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The Doctor and Rose visited the moment of Pete's car
>>>>>>>> accident twice. If Rose had saved Peter during the
>>>>>>>> first visit, could she have gotten away with it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh! Why do YOU, asswipe, state this??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would think it would definately have been possible for
>>>>>> Rose to have saved her Dad on either occasion and have
>>>>>> changed "Future History" in doing so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can see problems if 'Rose 2' had saved Dad but still she
>>>>>> COULD have done it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you see the Time Monkey-Bats? That was from Rose TWO
>>>>> saving Pete. She had wounded reality, letting the Time
>>>>> Monkey-Bats in. But I think I heard someone say that the
>>>>> problem was caused by the Doctor and Rose showing up at the
>>>>> point in space-time twice, not specifically from the saving
>>>>> of Pete. If Rose had saved Pete the FIRST time she visited
>>>>> that space-time point, would reality still have been
>>>>> wounded?
>>>>>
>>>> Was Time seriously effected by the presence of the
>>>> 'Time-Monkey-Bats'?? I think NOT!!
>>>
>>> People and objects were disappearing right and left.
>> Exactly!!
>
> How is that NOT a serious effect?
>
Was the History of Planet Earth effected by these supposed
disappearances, Tim??

I'm still here. You, unfortunately, are still here.

So I think NOT!!
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Tue, 20 Jun 2023 12:57 UTC

tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 20/6/23 9:31 pm:
> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:10:46 AM UTC-7, Daniel65 wrote:
>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 20/6/23 7:50 pm:
>>> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 4:43:14 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
>>>> In article <30b94d8a-a987-42bb...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 5:32:17 AM UTC-7, Daniel65
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 19/6/23 9:26 pm:
>>>>>>> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 3:43:20 AM UTC-7, Daniel65
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 19/6/23 7:42 am:
>>>>>>>>> In article <43a92200-c2b1-4fc0...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The Doctor and Rose visited the moment of Pete's
>>>>>>>>>> car accident twice. If Rose had saved Peter during
>>>>>>>>>> the first visit, could she have gotten away with
>>>>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh! Why do YOU, asswipe, state this??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would think it would definately have been possible
>>>>>>>> for Rose to have saved her Dad on either occasion and
>>>>>>>> have changed "Future History" in doing so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can see problems if 'Rose 2' had saved Dad but still
>>>>>>>> she COULD have done it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you see the Time Monkey-Bats? That was from Rose TWO
>>>>>>> saving Pete. She had wounded reality, letting the Time
>>>>>>> Monkey-Bats in. But I think I heard someone say that the
>>>>>>> problem was caused by the Doctor and Rose showing up at
>>>>>>> the point in space-time twice, not specifically from the
>>>>>>> saving of Pete. If Rose had saved Pete the FIRST time she
>>>>>>> visited that space-time point, would reality still have
>>>>>>> been wounded?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was Time seriously effected by the presence of the
>>>>>> 'Time-Monkey-Bats'?? I think NOT!!
>>>>>
>>>>> People and objects were disappearing right and left.
>>>> Exactly!!
>>>
>>> How is that NOT a serious effect?
>>>
>> Was the History of Planet Earth effected by these supposed
>> disappearances, Tim??
>>
>> I'm still here. You, unfortunately, are still here.
>>
>> So I think NOT!!
>
> That's because Pete corrected the problem by being hit by a car!
>
But that was a change in Earth's History right there, Tim, because a
different person had been traumatised by killing Pete, Tim, so NOT
CORRECTING THE PROBLEM, Tim, just changing it!!
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Wed, 21 Jun 2023 05:49 UTC

tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 21/06/2023 3:14 am:
> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 7:43:21 AM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
>> In article <05e6e3a0-b43c-4aaf...@googlegroups.com>,
>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 5:57:51 AM UTC-7, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 20/6/23 9:31 pm:
>>>>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:10:46 AM UTC-7, Daniel65
>>>>> wrote:

<Snip>

>>>>>> Was the History of Planet Earth effected by these supposed
>>>>>> disappearances, Tim??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm still here. You, unfortunately, are still here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I think NOT!!
>>>>>
>>>>> That's because Pete corrected the problem by being hit by a
>>>>> car!
>>>>>
>>>> But that was a change in Earth's History right there, Tim,
>>>> because a different person had been traumatised by killing
>>>> Pete, Tim, so NOT CORRECTING THE PROBLEM, Tim, just changing
>>>> it!!
>>>
>>> I had assumed that the same car with the same driver had struck
>>> Pete at the end of the episode as had struck Pete in the original
>>> timeline! You say that I failed to notice that there was a change
>>> in cars?
>> And that is what it was!
>
> Why would there a change in cars?
>
Because this time when Pete was hit was LATER than the first time, Tim.
The first car was somewhere down the road.
--
Daniel

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