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 by: Ubiquitous - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 20:24 UTC

Comedian Bill Maher took a shot at the trans community during a CNN interview
this week, saying that they go way �too far� in their demands of everyone
else and that they are actively trying to �shut down debate.�

Maher made the remarks during an interview with Jake Tapper about the
political Left�s cancel culture agenda.

Tapper seemingly defended the point of view shared by a small number of
comedians who claim that jokes about transgender people amount to �punching
down.�

�I don�t really agree. I mean, I think the trans community is asking for too
much,� Maher said. �Again, the difference between liberal and woke.�

�And it�s great we live in a time where people like that can freely live the
lives they should live with all the dignity and protection of the law that we
can afford them, like anybody else in society. I think that�s the liberal
point of view,� Maher said before transitioning into explaining how woke
people view the matter.

�The woke point of view is something very different, like � �well, babies are
born now and just jump ball, we don�t know what they are,�� Maher mocked.
��Congratulations, you have a boy. Well, let�s not be hasty. There�s a penis.
That could be an indication of a male, but it�s � it�s really� we�ll find out
later. And we can always get rid of it.'�

�And it�s not wrong to have this discussion,� Maher continued, noting that
woke people try to claim that even having the discussion is a form of hate or
a phobia, a tactic that is used to shut down debate.

�They absolutely do want to shut down debate,� Maher added.

JAKE TAPPER: So, you know, I hear a lot about comedians being afraid to
perform in the new environment, but by the same token, I mean, I see Dave
Chappelle still doing very well.

BILL MAHER: Yeah.

TAPPER: There�s one thing I � I wanted to get your reaction to something
because obviously Chappelle has been criticized a lot because of his � making
fun of transgender� the transgender community.

This is what David Cross says, and he�s � David Cross is a pretty edgy
comedian and �

MAHER: Yes, great � great comedian.

TAPPER: And he says � this is � he�s talking � he�s not talking about you
certainly, and he�s not even talking about Chappelle necessarily in the
quote, but he�s talking about people who make the kind of jokes making fun of
transgender, he said, you�re positioning yourself as this bull**** voice of,
they�re not going to cancel me. You can�t silence me.

For what? Your dumb joke about trans people? Who gives a shit? I mean, is it
that important to you? Just move along and not hurt hundreds of thousands of
people. It�s a choice people make.

I thought that was an interesting quote. I mean, I guess the larger criticism
of Chappelle from people like David Cross is, he�s punching down, not like
what Carlin did punching up.

What do you think?

MAHER: I don�t really agree. I mean, I think the trans community is asking
for too much. Again, the difference between liberal and woke.

Liberals are people who I think would say � I certainly would� trans is, of
course, a real thing. You know, some people are just, you know, I don�t � I�m
� they probably don�t like this terminology, but born in the wrong body,
whatever the � the equipment doesn�t match how you feel.

Absolutely. And it�s great we live in a time where people like that can
freely live the lives they should live with all the dignity and protection of
the law that we can afford them, like anybody else in society. I think that�s
the liberal point of view.

The woke point of view is something very different, like � well, babies are
born now and just jump ball, we don�t know what they are.

Congratulations, you have a boy. Well, let�s not be hasty. There�s a penis.
That could be an indication of a male, but it�s � it�s really� we�ll find out
later. And we can always get rid of it.

And it�s not wrong to have this discussion. This is some � something that�s
very new. It�s not to shut it � to shut down debate with these words like
phobia.

You�re phobic and you hate � we don�t hate. It�s not hate. It�s not phobic.
We�re not afraid.

We�re just discussing something very new that involves children and what �
these interventions you�re making have repercussions for the entire rest of
their lives and they�re about their health, which I think should come first.

TAPPER: So I think if a trans activist were here right now, they might say,
we�re not afraid of having discussions and debate, but you�re talking about
these issues at a time when states like Idaho and Florida and others are
talking about banning these procedures, regardless of what the kid and the
parents and the doctor want.

MAHER: Well, that�s �

TAPPER: And that that�s, like, a bigger issue than the term pregnant people.

MAHER: Well, that�s probably a backlash that went too far.

TAPPER: You think that�s �

(CROSSTALK)

TAPPER: Yeah.

MAHER: Yeah. I think that is, to � to completely ban it. But I also � I also
don�t agree with what you just said. They absolutely do want to shut down
debate.

--
Let's go Brandon!

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 by: super70s - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 21:37 UTC

In article <ttr0ll$ch4i$9@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

> Comedian Bill Maher

Is a comedian, I don't know why some people treat him like some
omniscient guru.

Usually only done out of political convenience from the right though,
the "even Bill Mahar says..." syndrome.

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 by: moviePig - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 22:18 UTC

On 3/2/2023 4:37 PM, super70s wrote:
> In article <ttr0ll$ch4i$9@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> Comedian Bill Maher
>
> Is a comedian, I don't know why some people treat him like some
> omniscient guru.
>
> Usually only done out of political convenience from the right though,
> the "even Bill Mahar says..." syndrome.

Though he'd likely laugh at the notion, he's a 'guru' only among TV
personalities and only by holding himself to a few principles.

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 by: Ubiquitous - Fri, 3 Mar 2023 09:30 UTC

super70s@super70s.invalid wrote:
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

>> Comedian Bill Maher
>
>Is a comedian, I don't know why some people treat him like some
>omniscient guru.

Ad hominem noted.

>Usually only done out of political convenience from the right though,
>the "even Bill Mahar says..." syndrome.

Projection noted.

Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

--
Let's go Brandon!

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 by: super70s - Fri, 3 Mar 2023 15:18 UTC

In article <ttso5g$kjse$7@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

> super70s@super70s.invalid wrote:
> > Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>
> >> Comedian Bill Maher
> >
> >Is a comedian, I don't know why some people treat him like some
> >omniscient guru.
>
> Ad hominem noted.
>
> >Usually only done out of political convenience from the right though,
> >the "even Bill Mahar says..." syndrome.
>
> Projection noted.
>
> Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.
>
> --
> Let's go Brandon!

Is that all I get? I feel slighted. I wanted the "Full Deluxe
Troll-O-Meter Damned For Eternity" condemnation.

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