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* Re: Citadel. Does the world-spy agency stuff still really sell?danny burstein
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Re: Citadel. Does the world-spy agency stuff still really sell?

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From: dan...@panix.com (danny burstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Citadel. Does the world-spy agency stuff still really sell?
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 05:32:37 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: danny burstein - Tue, 7 Mar 2023 05:32 UTC

In <f1d3c378-7fef-4d34-bcd1-8f965ee83276n@googlegroups.com> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> writes:

>The concept of countries cooperating as a "world spy agency" seems quaint. =
> Sort of James Bond, circa 1965. The reality is, countries although they a=
>re economically-tied, are more territorial than ever so I'm not sure this U=
>N- runs things, whatever, spy stuff still has any merit. Bright spot; Mad=
>den was very good in "Bodyguard."

>https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9794044/?ref_=3Dnv_sr_srsg_0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

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From: dan...@panix.com (danny burstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Citadel. Does the world-spy agency stuff still really sell?
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 by: danny burstein - Tue, 7 Mar 2023 06:22 UTC

In <03c444ee-2bec-44ef-a1cd-2d34d60ec837n@googlegroups.com> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> writes:

>On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 00:32:41 UTC-5, danny burstein wrote:
>> In <f1d3c378-7fef-4d34...@googlegroups.com> RichA <rande...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> >The concept of countries cooperating as a "world spy agency" seems quaint. =
>> > Sort of James Bond, circa 1965. The reality is, countries although they a=
>> >re economically-tied, are more territorial than ever so I'm not sure this U=
>> >N- runs things, whatever, spy stuff still has any merit. Bright spot; Mad=
>> >den was very good in "Bodyguard."
>> >https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9794044/?ref_=3Dnv_sr_srsg_0
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
>
>and yet I'm sure they spy on each other too. Like the U.S. and Israel. Trust me; they do not share everything.

One of those every five year stories (although it's running late)
is when someone discovers the Pentagon has mapped out Toronto
or a similar Allied major city ....

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From: dtra...@sonic.net (Dimensional Traveler)
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 by: Dimensional Traveler - Tue, 7 Mar 2023 12:16 UTC

On 3/6/2023 10:22 PM, danny burstein wrote:
> In <03c444ee-2bec-44ef-a1cd-2d34d60ec837n@googlegroups.com> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 00:32:41 UTC-5, danny burstein wrote:
>>> In <f1d3c378-7fef-4d34...@googlegroups.com> RichA <rande...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> The concept of countries cooperating as a "world spy agency" seems quaint. =
>>>> Sort of James Bond, circa 1965. The reality is, countries although they a=
>>>> re economically-tied, are more territorial than ever so I'm not sure this U=
>>>> N- runs things, whatever, spy stuff still has any merit. Bright spot; Mad=
>>>> den was very good in "Bodyguard."
>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9794044/?ref_=3Dnv_sr_srsg_0
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
>>
>> and yet I'm sure they spy on each other too. Like the U.S. and Israel. Trust me; they do not share everything.
>
> One of those every five year stories (although it's running late)
> is when someone discovers the Pentagon has mapped out Toronto
> or a similar Allied major city ....
>
The US has and regularly updates operational plans for invading Canada.

As part of training officers on how to make operational plans that are
worth the paper they are written on. :P

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From: lcra...@home.ca (The Horny Goat)
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 by: The Horny Goat - Tue, 7 Mar 2023 20:09 UTC

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 04:16:33 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 3/6/2023 10:22 PM, danny burstein wrote:
>> In <03c444ee-2bec-44ef-a1cd-2d34d60ec837n@googlegroups.com> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 00:32:41 UTC-5, danny burstein wrote:
>>>> In <f1d3c378-7fef-4d34...@googlegroups.com> RichA <rande...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>> One of those every five year stories (although it's running late)
>> is when someone discovers the Pentagon has mapped out Toronto
>> or a similar Allied major city ....
>>
>The US has and regularly updates operational plans for invading Canada.
>
>As part of training officers on how to make operational plans that are
>worth the paper they are written on. :P

Didn't know that but am hardly surprised.

It's not exactly news that staff officers NEED to know how to make
operational plans after all.

There are doubtless megatons of plans that never expect to actually be
used - just last week I told the tale of the US Army's "plan" to fight
the Zombie Apocalypse (tm).

Which is about as likely as the Joint Chiefs of Staff prancing around
nekkid in Kiev right? Nevertheless officers DO need to know how to
write plans effectively.

I'm sure the US Army has far better maps of Toronto than one finds on
Google after all!

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 by: Dimensional Traveler - Tue, 7 Mar 2023 23:31 UTC

On 3/7/2023 12:09 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 04:16:33 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 3/6/2023 10:22 PM, danny burstein wrote:
>>> In <03c444ee-2bec-44ef-a1cd-2d34d60ec837n@googlegroups.com> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 00:32:41 UTC-5, danny burstein wrote:
>>>>> In <f1d3c378-7fef-4d34...@googlegroups.com> RichA <rande...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>> One of those every five year stories (although it's running late)
>>> is when someone discovers the Pentagon has mapped out Toronto
>>> or a similar Allied major city ....
>>>
>> The US has and regularly updates operational plans for invading Canada.
>>
>> As part of training officers on how to make operational plans that are
>> worth the paper they are written on. :P
>
> Didn't know that but am hardly surprised.
>
> It's not exactly news that staff officers NEED to know how to make
> operational plans after all.
>
> There are doubtless megatons of plans that never expect to actually be
> used - just last week I told the tale of the US Army's "plan" to fight
> the Zombie Apocalypse (tm).
>
The CDC has one too. :D

> Which is about as likely as the Joint Chiefs of Staff prancing around
> nekkid in Kiev right? Nevertheless officers DO need to know how to
> write plans effectively.
>
> I'm sure the US Army has far better maps of Toronto than one finds on
> Google after all!

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