On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
>
> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the Marxists and
> immigrants could live together.

They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east side of
both states one state and the west side one state. That way the leftists could
enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.

On 3/16/2023 3:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
>>
>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the Marxists and
>> immigrants could live together.
>
> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east side of
> both states one state and the west side one state. That way the leftists could
> enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
> farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.

https://www.amazon.com/Ecotopia-Novel-Ernest-Callenbach/dp/0553348477/

On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:03:15 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
> >
> > Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the Marxists and
> > immigrants could live together.
> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east side of
> both states one state and the west side one state. That way the leftists could
> enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
> farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.

It would also "reward" the leftists by giving them the best real estate, especially the ocean frontage. That would make it easier for them to invite their ideological compatriots - the Chinese government - to establish military bases in this new state, which I'm going to call East Washore as a temporary name. (They'll probably call it the People's Progressive Republic of Washore.)

On Mar 16, 2023 at 2:10:24 PM PDT, "Rhino2" <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:03:15 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
>>>
>> >
>> > Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the Marxists
>>> and
>> > immigrants could live together.
>>
>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east side
>> of
>> both states one state and the west side one state. That way the leftists
>> could
>> enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
>> farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.
>
> It would also "reward" the leftists by giving them the best real estate,
> especially the ocean frontage. That would make it easier for them to invite
> their ideological compatriots - the Chinese government - to establish
> military bases in this new state

Well, as long as they're still actually *states*, then they wouldn't get to
invite foreign countries to set up military bases. The Pentagon might have a
wee problem with that. Now if they secede and form their own country of
People's Republic of Communist Pacifica, then they can do what they want. Of
course they'll have a (mostly) hostile nation right on their doorstep, so that
wouldn't be the brightest move.

> which I'm going to call East Washore as a temporary name. (They'll probably
> call it the People's Progressive Republic of Washore.)

They wouldn't even have to change the names of the states in my proposal, just
call one of the new states Washington, the other Oregon. I suppose they could
have a referendum to decide which one gets which name.

On 3/16/23 2:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
>>
>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the Marxists and
>> immigrants could live together.
>
> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east side of
> both states one state and the west side one state. That way the leftists could
> enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
> farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.

The right wing assholes wouldn't even make it through the first year.

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> On Mar 16, 2023 at 2:10:24 PM PDT, "Rhino2" <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:03:15 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the Marxists
>>> and
>>>> immigrants could live together.
>>>
>>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east side
>> of
>>> both states one state and the west side one state. That way the leftists
>> could
>>> enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
>>> farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.
>>
>> It would also "reward" the leftists by giving them the best real estate,
> especially the ocean frontage. That would make it easier for them to invite
> their ideological compatriots - the Chinese government - to establish
> military bases in this new state
>
> Well, as long as they're still actually *states*, then they wouldn't get to
invite foreign countries to set up military bases. The Pentagon might have
a wee problem with that. Now if they secede and form their own country of
People's Republic of Communist Pacifica, then they can do what they want.
Of
course they'll have a (mostly) hostile nation right on their doorstep,
so that
wouldn't be the brightest move.
>
>> which I'm going to call East Washore as a temporary name. (They'll probably
> call it the People's Progressive Republic of Washore.)
>
> They wouldn't even have to change the names of the states in my proposal, just
call one of the new states Washington, the other Oregon. I suppose they
could
have a referendum to decide which one gets which name.
>

They could do the same thing with north and South Dakota. Once they are
east and west Dakota, the former North Dakota can quit its whining.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

On 3/16/2023 5:25 PM, trotsky wrote:
> On 3/16/23 2:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
>>>
>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea.  All the
>>> Marxists and
>>> immigrants could live together.
>>
>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east
>> side of
>> both states one state and the west side one state. That way the
>> leftists could
>> enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
>> farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.
>
> The right wing assholes wouldn't even make it through the first year.

The ones who formed some sort of commune might.

On Mar 16, 2023 at 2:53:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

> On 3/16/2023 5:25 PM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 3/16/23 2:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
>>>>
>>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea.  All the
>>>> Marxists and
>>>> immigrants could live together.
>>>
>>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east
>>> side of
>>> both states one state and the west side one state. That way the
>>> leftists could
>>> enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
>>> farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.
>>
>> The right wing assholes wouldn't even make it through the first year.
>
> The ones who formed some sort of commune might.

Or, they could, you know, just go on living as they always have and be just
fine.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 19:03:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
>>
>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the Marxists and
>> immigrants could live together.
>
>They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east side of
>both states one state and the west side one state. That way the leftists could
>enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
>farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.
>

It wouldn't happen that way. If something like that were going to
happen it would be what has already been called for, for years, which
is to split Oregon into two parts with the eastern part becoming part
of Idaho since the makeup of both sections are very similar. Not that
I expect this to ever happen but at least that doesn't create new
states with all that it entails.

On Mar 16, 2023 at 3:15:30 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 19:03:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
>>>
>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the Marxists and
>>> immigrants could live together.
>>
>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east side of
>> both states one state and the west side one state. That way the leftists
>> could
>> enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
>> farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.
>>
>
> It wouldn't happen that way. If something like that were going to
> happen it would be what has already been called for, for years, which
> is to split Oregon into two parts with the eastern part becoming part
> of Idaho since the makeup of both sections are very similar. Not that
> I expect this to ever happen but at least that doesn't create new
> states with all that it entails.

My suggestion wouldn't create new states, either. You'd start with 50 states
and end with 50 states. Hell, they could even keep the names Washington and
Oregon. The only difference would be where the borders fall.

This would even be an advantage for the leftists, since they'd get the
population centers of Seattle and Portland. Might give them more D seats in
the House.

On 3/16/2023 6:00 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Mar 16, 2023 at 2:53:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 3/16/2023 5:25 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 3/16/23 2:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea.  All the
>>>>> Marxists and
>>>>> immigrants could live together.
>>>>
>>>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east
>>>> side of
>>>> both states one state and the west side one state. That way the
>>>> leftists could
>>>> enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
>>>> farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.
>>>
>>> The right wing assholes wouldn't even make it through the first year.
>>
>> The ones who formed some sort of commune might.
>
> Or, they could, you know, just go on living as they always have and be just
> fine.

....i.e., living in ways that have none of the communal aspects typical
of humans for the past 6000 years.

On Mar 16, 2023 at 3:40:13 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

> On 3/16/2023 6:00 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Mar 16, 2023 at 2:53:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/16/2023 5:25 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>> On 3/16/23 2:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea.  All the
>>>>>> Marxists and
>>>>>> immigrants could live together.
>>>>>
>>>>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east
>>>>> side of
>>>>> both states one state and the west side one state. That way the
>>>>> leftists could
>>>>> enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
>>>>> farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.
>>>>
>>>> The right wing assholes wouldn't even make it through the first year.
>>>
>>> The ones who formed some sort of commune might.
>>
>> Or, they could, you know, just go on living as they always have and be just
>> fine.
>
> ...i.e., living in ways that have none of the communal aspects typical
> of humans for the past 6000 years.

Yes, you're right of course. Without the cesspool of Portland being in the
same state, a farmer in Klamath Falls just won't be able to survive.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 19:03:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east side of
>both states one state and the west side one state. That way the leftists could
>enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
>farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.

Didn't realize you hated them so much.....

On 3/16/2023 3:15 PM, shawn wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 19:03:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
>>>
>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the Marxists and
>>> immigrants could live together.
>>
>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east side of
>> both states one state and the west side one state. That way the leftists could
>> enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
>> farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.
>>
>
> It wouldn't happen that way. If something like that were going to
> happen it would be what has already been called for, for years, which
> is to split Oregon into two parts with the eastern part becoming part
> of Idaho since the makeup of both sections are very similar. Not that
> I expect this to ever happen but at least that doesn't create new
> states with all that it entails.
>
I'd rather they didn't do it at all. There's quite enough far right in
Idaho as there is now.

In article
<591075459.700694517.612228.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 16, 2023 at 2:10:24 PM PDT, "Rhino2" <hughmunguscan@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:03:15?PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisa
> >>>>>>> n-divides/index.html
> >>>
> >>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the Marxists
> >>>> and immigrants could live together.
> >>>
> >>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east
> >>> side of both states one state and the west side one state. That way
> >>> the leftists could enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating
> >>> shitpile and the rural farmers in the east can live normal, non-
> >>> communist lives.
> >>
> >> It would also "reward" the leftists by giving them the best real estate,
> > especially the ocean frontage. That would make it easier for them to invite
> > their ideological compatriots - the Chinese government - to establish
> > military bases in this new state
> >
> > Well, as long as they're still actually *states*, then they wouldn't get
> > to invite foreign countries to set up military bases. The Pentagon might
> > have a wee problem with that. Now if they secede and form their own
> > country of People's Republic of Communist Pacifica, then they can do what
> > they want. Of course they'll have a (mostly) hostile nation right on their
> > doorstep, so that wouldn't be the brightest move.
> >
> >> which I'm going to call East Washore as a temporary name. (They'll
> >> probably call it the People's Progressive Republic of Washore.)
> >
> > They wouldn't even have to change the names of the states in my proposal,
> > just call one of the new states Washington, the other Oregon. I suppose
> > they could have a referendum to decide which one gets which name.
> >
> They could do the same thing with north and South Dakota. Once they are
> east and west Dakota, the former North Dakota can quit its whining.

What's North Dakota whining about?

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> In article
> <591075459.700694517.612228.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> On Mar 16, 2023 at 2:10:24 PM PDT, "Rhino2" <hughmunguscan@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:03:15?PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisa
>>>>>>>>> n-divides/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the Marxists
>>>>>> and immigrants could live together.
>>>>>
>>>>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east
>>>>> side of both states one state and the west side one state. That way
>>>>> the leftists could enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating
>>>>> shitpile and the rural farmers in the east can live normal, non-
>>>>> communist lives.
>>>>
>>>> It would also "reward" the leftists by giving them the best real estate,
>>> especially the ocean frontage. That would make it easier for them to invite
>>> their ideological compatriots - the Chinese government - to establish
>>> military bases in this new state
>>>
>>> Well, as long as they're still actually *states*, then they wouldn't get
>>> to invite foreign countries to set up military bases. The Pentagon might
>>> have a wee problem with that. Now if they secede and form their own
>>> country of People's Republic of Communist Pacifica, then they can do what
>>> they want. Of course they'll have a (mostly) hostile nation right on their
>>> doorstep, so that wouldn't be the brightest move.
>>>
>>>> which I'm going to call East Washore as a temporary name. (They'll
>>>> probably call it the People's Progressive Republic of Washore.)
>>>
>>> They wouldn't even have to change the names of the states in my proposal,
>>> just call one of the new states Washington, the other Oregon. I suppose
>>> they could have a referendum to decide which one gets which name.
>>>
>> They could do the same thing with north and South Dakota. Once they are
>> east and west Dakota, the former North Dakota can quit its whining.
>
> What's North Dakota whining about?
>

Seriously? They’ve been complaining for decades about their name. They feel
that north is a pejorative. People hear north and they think it’s cold and
barren and lifeless and of course that’s a perfectly accurate description.
South makes people feel warm and fuzzy and so everybody goes to South
Dakota and nobody goes to North Dakota. I don’t know why the hell anybody
goes to South Dakota except for Mount Rushmore.

They even did a West Wing episode about it. Donna goes to North Dakota and
has to listen to them whine.

Apparently a state can’t change its name without the permission of the
feds, and the feds are holding North Dakota down.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

In article
<530564483.700715713.926956.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <591075459.700694517.612228.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
> > anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >>> On Mar 16, 2023 at 2:10:24 PM PDT, "Rhino2" <hughmunguscan@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:03:15?PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-parti
> >>>>>>>>> sa
> >>>>>>>>> n-divides/index.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the
> >>>>>> Marxists and immigrants could live together.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east
> >>>>> side of both states one state and the west side one state. That way
> >>>>> the leftists could enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating
> >>>>> shitpile and the rural farmers in the east can live normal, non-
> >>>>> communist lives.
> >>>>
> >>>> It would also "reward" the leftists by giving them the best real estate,
> >>>> especially the ocean frontage. That would make it easier for them to
> >>>> invite their ideological compatriots - the Chinese government - to
> >>>> establish military bases in this new state
> >>>
> >>> Well, as long as they're still actually *states*, then they wouldn't get
> >>> to invite foreign countries to set up military bases. The Pentagon might
> >>> have a wee problem with that. Now if they secede and form their own
> >>> country of People's Republic of Communist Pacifica, then they can do what
> >>> they want. Of course they'll have a (mostly) hostile nation right on
> >>> their doorstep, so that wouldn't be the brightest move.
> >>>
> >>>> which I'm going to call East Washore as a temporary name. (They'll
> >>>> probably call it the People's Progressive Republic of Washore.)
> >>>
> >>> They wouldn't even have to change the names of the states in my proposal,
> >>> just call one of the new states Washington, the other Oregon. I suppose
> >>> they could have a referendum to decide which one gets which name.
> >>>
> >> They could do the same thing with north and South Dakota. Once they are
> >> east and west Dakota, the former North Dakota can quit its whining.
> >
> > What's North Dakota whining about?
> >
> Seriously? They've been complaining for decades about their name. They feel
> that north is a pejorative. People hear north and they think it's cold and
> barren and lifeless and of course that’s a perfectly accurate description.

I'm pretty sure it's not the 'north' part that conjures up that image.
People get the same image when they hear 'South Dakota', too.

After all, people don't think North Carolina is a frozen moonscape when
they hear the name, do they?

> South makes people feel warm and fuzzy and so everybody goes to South
> Dakota and nobody goes to North Dakota. I don't know why the hell anybody
> goes to South Dakota except for Mount Rushmore.

The Badlands are amazingly beautiful, especially at sunset.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 20:31:27 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>In article
><530564483.700715713.926956.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> > In article
>> > <591075459.700694517.612228.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
>> > anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> >>> On Mar 16, 2023 at 2:10:24 PM PDT, "Rhino2" <hughmunguscan@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:03:15?PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
>> >>>>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-parti
>> >>>>>>>>> sa
>> >>>>>>>>> n-divides/index.html
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the
>> >>>>>> Marxists and immigrants could live together.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east
>> >>>>> side of both states one state and the west side one state. That way
>> >>>>> the leftists could enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating
>> >>>>> shitpile and the rural farmers in the east can live normal, non-
>> >>>>> communist lives.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It would also "reward" the leftists by giving them the best real estate,
>> >>>> especially the ocean frontage. That would make it easier for them to
>> >>>> invite their ideological compatriots - the Chinese government - to
>> >>>> establish military bases in this new state
>> >>>
>> >>> Well, as long as they're still actually *states*, then they wouldn't get
>> >>> to invite foreign countries to set up military bases. The Pentagon might
>> >>> have a wee problem with that. Now if they secede and form their own
>> >>> country of People's Republic of Communist Pacifica, then they can do what
>> >>> they want. Of course they'll have a (mostly) hostile nation right on
>> >>> their doorstep, so that wouldn't be the brightest move.
>> >>>
>> >>>> which I'm going to call East Washore as a temporary name. (They'll
>> >>>> probably call it the People's Progressive Republic of Washore.)
>> >>>
>> >>> They wouldn't even have to change the names of the states in my proposal,
>> >>> just call one of the new states Washington, the other Oregon. I suppose
>> >>> they could have a referendum to decide which one gets which name.
>> >>>
>> >> They could do the same thing with north and South Dakota. Once they are
>> >> east and west Dakota, the former North Dakota can quit its whining.
>> >
>> > What's North Dakota whining about?
>> >
>> Seriously? They've been complaining for decades about their name. They feel
>> that north is a pejorative. People hear north and they think it's cold and
>> barren and lifeless and of course that’s a perfectly accurate description.
>
>I'm pretty sure it's not the 'north' part that conjures up that image.
>People get the same image when they hear 'South Dakota', too.
>
>After all, people don't think North Carolina is a frozen moonscape when
>they hear the name, do they?

If only we had another percent of green house gases in the air no one
would think North Dakota was so awful.

>
>> South makes people feel warm and fuzzy and so everybody goes to South
>> Dakota and nobody goes to North Dakota. I don't know why the hell anybody
>> goes to South Dakota except for Mount Rushmore.
>
>The Badlands are amazingly beautiful, especially at sunset.

Especially after three days without water, no cell service and a
broken down vehicle on a back road no one uses. Then you truly
understand why they were called the Badlands.

On 3/16/23 4:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 3/16/2023 5:25 PM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 3/16/23 2:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
>>>>
>>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea.  All the
>>>> Marxists and
>>>> immigrants could live together.
>>>
>>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east
>>> side of
>>> both states one state and the west side one state. That way the
>>> leftists could
>>> enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
>>> farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.
>>
>> The right wing assholes wouldn't even make it through the first year.
>
> The ones who formed some sort of commune might.

Wouldn't that be a communist thing to do?

On 3/16/23 5:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Mar 16, 2023 at 3:15:30 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 19:03:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-partisan-divides/index.html
>>>>
>>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the Marxists and
>>>> immigrants could live together.
>>>
>>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east side of
>>> both states one state and the west side one state. That way the leftists
>>> could
>>> enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating shitpile and the rural
>>> farmers in the east can live normal, non-communist lives.
>>>
>>
>> It wouldn't happen that way. If something like that were going to
>> happen it would be what has already been called for, for years, which
>> is to split Oregon into two parts with the eastern part becoming part
>> of Idaho since the makeup of both sections are very similar. Not that
>> I expect this to ever happen but at least that doesn't create new
>> states with all that it entails.
>
> My suggestion wouldn't create new states, either.

"Your" solution or the Oath Keepers?

You'd start with 50 states
> and end with 50 states. Hell, they could even keep the names Washington and
> Oregon. The only difference would be where the borders fall.
>
> This would even be an advantage for the leftists, since they'd get the
> population centers of Seattle and Portland. Might give them more D seats in
> the House.
>
>

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 20:31:27 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <530564483.700715713.926956.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> <591075459.700694517.612228.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2023 at 2:10:24 PM PDT, "Rhino2" <hughmunguscan@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:03:15?PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-parti
>>>>>>>>>>>> sa
>>>>>>>>>>>> n-divides/index.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the
>>>>>>>>> Marxists and immigrants could live together.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east
>>>>>>>> side of both states one state and the west side one state. That way
>>>>>>>> the leftists could enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating
>>>>>>>> shitpile and the rural farmers in the east can live normal, non-
>>>>>>>> communist lives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would also "reward" the leftists by giving them the best real estate,
>>>>>>> especially the ocean frontage. That would make it easier for them to
>>>>>>> invite their ideological compatriots - the Chinese government - to
>>>>>>> establish military bases in this new state
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, as long as they're still actually *states*, then they wouldn't get
>>>>>> to invite foreign countries to set up military bases. The Pentagon might
>>>>>> have a wee problem with that. Now if they secede and form their own
>>>>>> country of People's Republic of Communist Pacifica, then they can do what
>>>>>> they want. Of course they'll have a (mostly) hostile nation right on
>>>>>> their doorstep, so that wouldn't be the brightest move.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which I'm going to call East Washore as a temporary name. (They'll
>>>>>>> probably call it the People's Progressive Republic of Washore.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They wouldn't even have to change the names of the states in my proposal,
>>>>>> just call one of the new states Washington, the other Oregon. I suppose
>>>>>> they could have a referendum to decide which one gets which name.
>>>>>>
>>>>> They could do the same thing with north and South Dakota. Once they are
>>>>> east and west Dakota, the former North Dakota can quit its whining.
>>>>
>>>> What's North Dakota whining about?
>>>>
>>> Seriously? They've been complaining for decades about their name. They feel
>>> that north is a pejorative. People hear north and they think it's cold and
>>> barren and lifeless and of course that’s a perfectly accurate description.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure it's not the 'north' part that conjures up that image.
>> People get the same image when they hear 'South Dakota', too.
>>
>> After all, people don't think North Carolina is a frozen moonscape when
>> they hear the name, do they?
>
> If only we had another percent of green house gases in the air no one
> would think North Dakota was so awful.
>
>>
>>> South makes people feel warm and fuzzy and so everybody goes to South
>>> Dakota and nobody goes to North Dakota. I don't know why the hell anybody
>>> goes to South Dakota except for Mount Rushmore.
>>
>> The Badlands are amazingly beautiful, especially at sunset.
>
> Especially after three days without water, no cell service and a
> broken down vehicle on a back road no one uses. Then you truly
> understand why they were called the Badlands.
>

The standard translation (French to English) of Jules Verne’s 20,000
Leagues Under the Sea translates “bad lands“ to “disagreeable territory“

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On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 06:01:31 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 20:31:27 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article
>>> <530564483.700715713.926956.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <591075459.700694517.612228.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
>>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2023 at 2:10:24 PM PDT, "Rhino2" <hughmunguscan@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:03:15?PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-parti
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sa
>>>>>>>>>>>>> n-divides/index.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the
>>>>>>>>>> Marxists and immigrants could live together.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east
>>>>>>>>> side of both states one state and the west side one state. That way
>>>>>>>>> the leftists could enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating
>>>>>>>>> shitpile and the rural farmers in the east can live normal, non-
>>>>>>>>> communist lives.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would also "reward" the leftists by giving them the best real estate,
>>>>>>>> especially the ocean frontage. That would make it easier for them to
>>>>>>>> invite their ideological compatriots - the Chinese government - to
>>>>>>>> establish military bases in this new state
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, as long as they're still actually *states*, then they wouldn't get
>>>>>>> to invite foreign countries to set up military bases. The Pentagon might
>>>>>>> have a wee problem with that. Now if they secede and form their own
>>>>>>> country of People's Republic of Communist Pacifica, then they can do what
>>>>>>> they want. Of course they'll have a (mostly) hostile nation right on
>>>>>>> their doorstep, so that wouldn't be the brightest move.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> which I'm going to call East Washore as a temporary name. (They'll
>>>>>>>> probably call it the People's Progressive Republic of Washore.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They wouldn't even have to change the names of the states in my proposal,
>>>>>>> just call one of the new states Washington, the other Oregon. I suppose
>>>>>>> they could have a referendum to decide which one gets which name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> They could do the same thing with north and South Dakota. Once they are
>>>>>> east and west Dakota, the former North Dakota can quit its whining.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's North Dakota whining about?
>>>>>
>>>> Seriously? They've been complaining for decades about their name. They feel
>>>> that north is a pejorative. People hear north and they think it's cold and
>>>> barren and lifeless and of course that’s a perfectly accurate description.
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure it's not the 'north' part that conjures up that image.
>>> People get the same image when they hear 'South Dakota', too.
>>>
>>> After all, people don't think North Carolina is a frozen moonscape when
>>> they hear the name, do they?
>>
>> If only we had another percent of green house gases in the air no one
>> would think North Dakota was so awful.
>>
>>>
>>>> South makes people feel warm and fuzzy and so everybody goes to South
>>>> Dakota and nobody goes to North Dakota. I don't know why the hell anybody
>>>> goes to South Dakota except for Mount Rushmore.
>>>
>>> The Badlands are amazingly beautiful, especially at sunset.
>>
>> Especially after three days without water, no cell service and a
>> broken down vehicle on a back road no one uses. Then you truly
>> understand why they were called the Badlands.
>>
>
>The standard translation (French to English) of Jules Verne’s 20,000
>Leagues Under the Sea translates “bad lands“ to “disagreeable territory“

So it is the same as my stomach after a bad burrito lunch?

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 06:01:31 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 20:31:27 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article
>>>> <530564483.700715713.926956.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> <591075459.700694517.612228.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
>>>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2023 at 2:10:24 PM PDT, "Rhino2" <hughmunguscan@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:03:15?PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2023 at 9:00:17 PM PDT, "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/politics/oregon-secession-idaho-parti
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n-divides/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Splitting the country in half is actually a good idea. All the
>>>>>>>>>>> Marxists and immigrants could live together.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They should split both Washington and Oregon in two and make the east
>>>>>>>>>> side of both states one state and the west side one state. That way
>>>>>>>>>> the leftists could enjoy turning the coast into an ever-degenerating
>>>>>>>>>> shitpile and the rural farmers in the east can live normal, non-
>>>>>>>>>> communist lives.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It would also "reward" the leftists by giving them the best real estate,
>>>>>>>>> especially the ocean frontage. That would make it easier for them to
>>>>>>>>> invite their ideological compatriots - the Chinese government - to
>>>>>>>>> establish military bases in this new state
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, as long as they're still actually *states*, then they wouldn't get
>>>>>>>> to invite foreign countries to set up military bases. The Pentagon might
>>>>>>>> have a wee problem with that. Now if they secede and form their own
>>>>>>>> country of People's Republic of Communist Pacifica, then they can do what
>>>>>>>> they want. Of course they'll have a (mostly) hostile nation right on
>>>>>>>> their doorstep, so that wouldn't be the brightest move.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> which I'm going to call East Washore as a temporary name. (They'll
>>>>>>>>> probably call it the People's Progressive Republic of Washore.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They wouldn't even have to change the names of the states in my proposal,
>>>>>>>> just call one of the new states Washington, the other Oregon. I suppose
>>>>>>>> they could have a referendum to decide which one gets which name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They could do the same thing with north and South Dakota. Once they are
>>>>>>> east and west Dakota, the former North Dakota can quit its whining.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's North Dakota whining about?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously? They've been complaining for decades about their name. They feel
>>>>> that north is a pejorative. People hear north and they think it's cold and
>>>>> barren and lifeless and of course that’s a perfectly accurate description.
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure it's not the 'north' part that conjures up that image.
>>>> People get the same image when they hear 'South Dakota', too.
>>>>
>>>> After all, people don't think North Carolina is a frozen moonscape when
>>>> they hear the name, do they?
>>>
>>> If only we had another percent of green house gases in the air no one
>>> would think North Dakota was so awful.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> South makes people feel warm and fuzzy and so everybody goes to South
>>>>> Dakota and nobody goes to North Dakota. I don't know why the hell anybody
>>>>> goes to South Dakota except for Mount Rushmore.
>>>>
>>>> The Badlands are amazingly beautiful, especially at sunset.
>>>
>>> Especially after three days without water, no cell service and a
>>> broken down vehicle on a back road no one uses. Then you truly
>>> understand why they were called the Badlands.
>>>
>>
>> The standard translation (French to English) of Jules Verne’s 20,000
>> Leagues Under the Sea translates “bad lands“ to “disagreeable territory“
>
> So it is the same as my stomach after a bad burrito lunch?
>

Lol

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