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 by: David Johnston - Thu, 23 Mar 2023 17:01 UTC

On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:
> Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties has been indicted for anything.

You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Thu, 23 Mar 2023 17:22 UTC

David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:

>>Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties has been indicted for anything.

>You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?

Did the two men comply with federal law requiring disclosure?

I don't know what the hell indictment the New York County D.A. intends
to bring, given that the Stormy Daniels scandal is a federal campaign
finance disclosure law violatioh and not state.

It's been amazing that the New York County D.A. and no other D.A. in the
area has never been able to bring an indictment against Trump for
financial crimes with respect to his businesses, you know, the serious
stuff that Trump actually did. Stormy Daniels should have been ignored.

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Turn the ad off, Johnston. I gave you instructions in the other thread.

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 by: David Johnston - Sat, 25 Mar 2023 22:57 UTC

On 2023-03-23 11:22 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:
>
>>> Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties has been indicted for anything.
>
>> You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?
>
> Did the two men comply with federal law requiring disclosure?
>

What federal law requiring disclosure? Neither of them are politicians.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Sat, 25 Mar 2023 23:29 UTC

David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 2023-03-23 11:22 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:

>>>>Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties has been indicted for anything.

>>>You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?

>>Did the two men comply with federal law requiring disclosure?

>What federal law requiring disclosure? Neither of them are politicians.

There are myriad federal laws requiring disclosure that aren't limited
to politicians. Anyone acting as a foreign agent is required to
register, for instance. The laws are quite broad. Failure to disclose
when required to do so is a criminal act.

There's an amazing number of ways to violate FISA, the very broad act
that allows spying upon Americans, although they have to obtain
warrants from a secret court.

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On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 7:30:01 PM UTC-4, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> David Johnston <davidjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On 2023-03-23 11:22 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> >>David Johnston <davidjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:
>
> >>>>Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties has been indicted for anything.
>
> >>>You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?
>
> >>Did the two men comply with federal law requiring disclosure?
>
> >What federal law requiring disclosure? Neither of them are politicians.

> There are myriad federal laws requiring disclosure that aren't limited
> to politicians. Anyone acting as a foreign agent is required to
> register, for instance. The laws are quite broad. Failure to disclose
> when required to do so is a criminal act.

Graham asks if AIPAC is a ‘Foreign Agent’
July 26, 2017
https://jewishinsider.com/2017/07/graham-asks-aipac-foreign-agent/

WASHINGTON – During a Senate hearing on Wednesday morning, Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) asked Adam Hickey, a senior U.S. Department of Justice official, whether AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) should “register as a foreign agent.” The South Carolina lawmaker explained his question by adding, “They come up here in droves: lobbying Congress to do things, in their view good for the U.S.-Israel relationship. I know they have a lot of contacts in Israel. Should somebody like that be a foreign agent?”

The Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing on Wednesday titled: “Oversight of the Foreign Agents Registration Act and attempts to influence U.S. elections; lessons learned from current and prior administrations.”

Robert Kennedy's Attempt to Register AIPAC as a Foreign Agent
Washington Report on Middle East Affairs Feb 28, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bCjMgvK5BE

It’s Time For AIPAC To Register As A Foreign Agent
By M.J. Rosenberg March 2, 2018
https://forward.com/opinion/395676/its-time-for-aipac-to-register-as-a-foreign-agent/

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Robert Kennedy's Attempt to Register AIPAC as a Foreign Agent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfyBHZc9rK4

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On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 8:23:29 PM UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 7:30:01 PM UTC-4, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> > David Johnston <davidjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >On 2023-03-23 11:22 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> > >>David Johnston <davidjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:

> > Anyone acting as a foreign agent is required to
> > register, for instance. The laws are quite broad. Failure to disclose
> > when required to do so is a criminal act.

> Graham asks if AIPAC is a ‘Foreign Agent’
> July 26, 2017

> Robert Kennedy's Attempt to Register AIPAC as a Foreign Agent
> Washington Report on Middle East Affairs Feb 28, 2020

> It’s Time For AIPAC To Register As A Foreign Agent
> By M.J. Rosenberg March 2, 2018

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 by: David Johnston - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 01:59 UTC

On 2023-03-25 5:29 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-03-23 11:22 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:
>
>>>>> Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties has been indicted for anything.
>
>>>> You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?
>
>>> Did the two men comply with federal law requiring disclosure?
>
>> What federal law requiring disclosure? Neither of them are politicians.
>
> There are myriad federal laws requiring disclosure that aren't limited
> to politicians. Anyone acting as a foreign agent is required to
> register, for instance.

But there no actual indication that either of them were acting as a
foreign agent.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 02:10 UTC

David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 2023-03-25 5:29 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>On 2023-03-23 11:22 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:

>>>>>>Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties has been indicted for anything.

>>>>>You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?

>>>>Did the two men comply with federal law requiring disclosure?

>>>What federal law requiring disclosure? Neither of them are politicians.

>>There are myriad federal laws requiring disclosure that aren't limited
>>to politicians. Anyone acting as a foreign agent is required to
>>register, for instance.

>But there no actual indication that either of them were acting as a
>foreign agent.

That would be the buckets full of cash. What is there to dispute?

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 by: David Johnston - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 17:46 UTC

On 2023-03-25 8:10 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-03-25 5:29 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-03-23 11:22 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties has been indicted for anything.
>
>>>>>> You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?
>
>>>>> Did the two men comply with federal law requiring disclosure?
>
>>>> What federal law requiring disclosure? Neither of them are politicians.
>
>>> There are myriad federal laws requiring disclosure that aren't limited
>>> to politicians. Anyone acting as a foreign agent is required to
>>> register, for instance.
>
>> But there no actual indication that either of them were acting as a
>> foreign agent.
>
> That would be the buckets full of cash. What is there to dispute?

Clinton never got buckets full of cash from China. No, an illegal
campaign contribution he never even saw doesn't count. Even if he did,
you would have to show that he was doing something in the United States
for it. As for Hunter Biden, acting as a conduit for a Russian
billionaire investing in a tech startup isn't what that law is referring
to as being a foreign agent.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 18:10 UTC

David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 2023-03-25 8:10 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>On 2023-03-25 5:29 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>On 2023-03-23 11:22 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:

>>>>>>>>Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties has been indicted for anything.

>>>>>>>You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?

>>>>>>Did the two men comply with federal law requiring disclosure?

>>>>>What federal law requiring disclosure? Neither of them are politicians.

>>>>There are myriad federal laws requiring disclosure that aren't limited
>>>>to politicians. Anyone acting as a foreign agent is required to
>>>>register, for instance.

>>>But there no actual indication that either of them were acting as a
>>>foreign agent.

>>That would be the buckets full of cash. What is there to dispute?

>Clinton never got buckets full of cash from China. No, an illegal
>campaign contribution he never even saw doesn't count. Even if he did,
>you would have to show that he was doing something in the United States
>for it.

I didn't look up the accusation versus Clinton and made no comment on
it.

>As for Hunter Biden, acting as a conduit for a Russian
>billionaire investing in a tech startup isn't what that law is referring
>to as being a foreign agent.

In this case, the accusation versus Hunter Biden is that he received
buckets full of cash from China.

You're being willfully blind here, Johnston, and I have no idea why you
are trying to change the topic.

This has been known for a couple of years. For instance,

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/20/world/hunter-biden-china-cobalt.html

What makes you think business dealings like that aren't subject to
disclosure?

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 by: David Johnston - Wed, 29 Mar 2023 17:33 UTC

On 2023-03-26 12:10 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-03-25 8:10 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-03-25 5:29 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-03-23 11:22 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>> Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties has been indicted for anything.
>
>>>>>>>> You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?
>
>>>>>>> Did the two men comply with federal law requiring disclosure?
>
>>>>>> What federal law requiring disclosure? Neither of them are politicians.
>
>>>>> There are myriad federal laws requiring disclosure that aren't limited
>>>>> to politicians. Anyone acting as a foreign agent is required to
>>>>> register, for instance.
>
>>>> But there no actual indication that either of them were acting as a
>>>> foreign agent.
>
>>> That would be the buckets full of cash. What is there to dispute?
>
>> Clinton never got buckets full of cash from China. No, an illegal
>> campaign contribution he never even saw doesn't count. Even if he did,
>> you would have to show that he was doing something in the United States
>> for it.
>
> I didn't look up the accusation versus Clinton and made no comment on
> it.
>
>> As for Hunter Biden, acting as a conduit for a Russian
>> billionaire investing in a tech startup isn't what that law is referring
>> to as being a foreign agent.
>
> In this case, the accusation versus Hunter Biden is that he received
> buckets full of cash from China.
>
> You're being willfully blind here, Johnston, and I have no idea why you
> are trying to change the topic.
>
> This has been known for a couple of years. For instance,
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/20/world/hunter-biden-china-cobalt.html
>
> What makes you think business dealings like that aren't subject to
> disclosure?

I think they don't qualify as being a foreign agent. I've never heard
any indication that his investment in China was a secret.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Wed, 29 Mar 2023 18:24 UTC

David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 2023-03-26 12:10 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-03-25 8:10 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-03-25 5:29 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2023-03-23 11:22 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that
>neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties
>has been indicted for anything.
>>
>>>>>>>>> You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?
>>
>>>>>>>> Did the two men comply with federal law requiring disclosure?
>>
>>>>>>> What federal law requiring disclosure? Neither of them are politicians.
>>
>>>>>> There are myriad federal laws requiring disclosure that aren't limited
>>>>>> to politicians. Anyone acting as a foreign agent is required to
>>>>>> register, for instance.
>>
>>>>> But there no actual indication that either of them were acting as a
>>>>> foreign agent.
>>
>>>> That would be the buckets full of cash. What is there to dispute?
>>
>>> Clinton never got buckets full of cash from China. No, an illegal
>>> campaign contribution he never even saw doesn't count. Even if he did,
>>> you would have to show that he was doing something in the United States
>>> for it.
>>
>> I didn't look up the accusation versus Clinton and made no comment on
>> it.
>>
>>> As for Hunter Biden, acting as a conduit for a Russian
>>> billionaire investing in a tech startup isn't what that law is referring
>>> to as being a foreign agent.
>>
>> In this case, the accusation versus Hunter Biden is that he received
>> buckets full of cash from China.
>>
>> You're being willfully blind here, Johnston, and I have no idea why you
>> are trying to change the topic.
>>
>> This has been known for a couple of years. For instance,
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/20/world/hunter-biden-china-cobalt.html
>>
>> What makes you think business dealings like that aren't subject to
>> disclosure?
>
>I think they don't qualify as being a foreign agent. I've never heard
>any indication that his investment in China was a secret.

Well, you'd be wrong. If everybody knew, then he should have filed
disclosure as required.

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 by: David Johnston - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 18:07 UTC

On 2023-03-29 12:24 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-03-26 12:10 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-03-25 8:10 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-03-25 5:29 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-23 11:22 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that
>> neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties
>> has been indicted for anything.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did the two men comply with federal law requiring disclosure?
>>>
>>>>>>>> What federal law requiring disclosure? Neither of them are politicians.
>>>
>>>>>>> There are myriad federal laws requiring disclosure that aren't limited
>>>>>>> to politicians. Anyone acting as a foreign agent is required to
>>>>>>> register, for instance.
>>>
>>>>>> But there no actual indication that either of them were acting as a
>>>>>> foreign agent.
>>>
>>>>> That would be the buckets full of cash. What is there to dispute?
>>>
>>>> Clinton never got buckets full of cash from China. No, an illegal
>>>> campaign contribution he never even saw doesn't count. Even if he did,
>>>> you would have to show that he was doing something in the United States
>>>> for it.
>>>
>>> I didn't look up the accusation versus Clinton and made no comment on
>>> it.
>>>
>>>> As for Hunter Biden, acting as a conduit for a Russian
>>>> billionaire investing in a tech startup isn't what that law is referring
>>>> to as being a foreign agent.
>>>
>>> In this case, the accusation versus Hunter Biden is that he received
>>> buckets full of cash from China.
>>>
>>> You're being willfully blind here, Johnston, and I have no idea why you
>>> are trying to change the topic.
>>>
>>> This has been known for a couple of years. For instance,
>>>
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/20/world/hunter-biden-china-cobalt.html
>>>
>>> What makes you think business dealings like that aren't subject to
>>> disclosure?
>>
>> I think they don't qualify as being a foreign agent. I've never heard
>> any indication that his investment in China was a secret.
>
> Well, you'd be wrong. If everybody knew, then he should have filed
> disclosure as required.

Once again, as required by what? What is the disclosure that he didn't
file?

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 18:38 UTC

David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 2023-03-29 12:24 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-03-26 12:10 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-03-25 8:10 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2023-03-25 5:29 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-23 11:22 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that
>>> neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties
>>> has been indicted for anything.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did the two men comply with federal law requiring disclosure?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What federal law requiring disclosure? Neither of them are
>politicians.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are myriad federal laws requiring disclosure that aren't limited
>>>>>>>> to politicians. Anyone acting as a foreign agent is required to
>>>>>>>> register, for instance.
>>>>
>>>>>>> But there no actual indication that either of them were acting as a
>>>>>>> foreign agent.
>>>>
>>>>>> That would be the buckets full of cash. What is there to dispute?
>>>>
>>>>> Clinton never got buckets full of cash from China. No, an illegal
>>>>> campaign contribution he never even saw doesn't count. Even if he did,
>>>>> you would have to show that he was doing something in the United States
>>>>> for it.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't look up the accusation versus Clinton and made no comment on
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>>> As for Hunter Biden, acting as a conduit for a Russian
>>>>> billionaire investing in a tech startup isn't what that law is referring
>>>>> to as being a foreign agent.
>>>>
>>>> In this case, the accusation versus Hunter Biden is that he received
>>>> buckets full of cash from China.
>>>>
>>>> You're being willfully blind here, Johnston, and I have no idea why you
>>>> are trying to change the topic.
>>>>
>>>> This has been known for a couple of years. For instance,
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/20/world/hunter-biden-china-cobalt.html
>>>>
>>>> What makes you think business dealings like that aren't subject to
>>>> disclosure?
>>>
>>> I think they don't qualify as being a foreign agent. I've never heard
>>> any indication that his investment in China was a secret.
>>
>> Well, you'd be wrong. If everybody knew, then he should have filed
>> disclosure as required.
>
>Once again, as required by what? What is the disclosure that he didn't
>file?

Johnston, you are delusional that someone could be paid that kind of
money to act in the interest of a foreign government and not be required
to disclose it.

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 by: David Johnston - Fri, 31 Mar 2023 22:47 UTC

On 2023-03-30 12:38 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-03-29 12:24 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-03-26 12:10 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-03-25 8:10 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-25 5:29 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-23 11:22 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that
>>>> neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties
>>>> has been indicted for anything.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Did the two men comply with federal law requiring disclosure?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What federal law requiring disclosure? Neither of them are
>> politicians.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are myriad federal laws requiring disclosure that aren't limited
>>>>>>>>> to politicians. Anyone acting as a foreign agent is required to
>>>>>>>>> register, for instance.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But there no actual indication that either of them were acting as a
>>>>>>>> foreign agent.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would be the buckets full of cash. What is there to dispute?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Clinton never got buckets full of cash from China. No, an illegal
>>>>>> campaign contribution he never even saw doesn't count. Even if he did,
>>>>>> you would have to show that he was doing something in the United States
>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't look up the accusation versus Clinton and made no comment on
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> As for Hunter Biden, acting as a conduit for a Russian
>>>>>> billionaire investing in a tech startup isn't what that law is referring
>>>>>> to as being a foreign agent.
>>>>>
>>>>> In this case, the accusation versus Hunter Biden is that he received
>>>>> buckets full of cash from China.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're being willfully blind here, Johnston, and I have no idea why you
>>>>> are trying to change the topic.
>>>>>
>>>>> This has been known for a couple of years. For instance,
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/20/world/hunter-biden-china-cobalt.html
>>>>>
>>>>> What makes you think business dealings like that aren't subject to
>>>>> disclosure?
>>>>
>>>> I think they don't qualify as being a foreign agent. I've never heard
>>>> any indication that his investment in China was a secret.
>>>
>>> Well, you'd be wrong. If everybody knew, then he should have filed
>>> disclosure as required.
>>
>> Once again, as required by what? What is the disclosure that he didn't
>> file?
>
> Johnston, you are delusional that someone could be paid that kind of
> money to act in the interest of a foreign government and not be required
> to disclose it.

He was a 10% stakeholder in a company that helped a Chinese company buy
a mine in Kongo. There is no indication in the story that he so much as
lifted a finger to make that happen nor did anything associated with
that transaction happen in the United States. So is it your contention
that everyone who has any foreign business dealings needs to register as
a foreign agent?

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 17:05 UTC

David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 2023-03-30 12:38 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-03-29 12:24 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-03-26 12:10 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2023-03-25 8:10 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-25 5:29 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-23 11:22 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-20 9:37 p.m., RichA wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Though he's not exactly defending Trump, he mentioned that
>>>>> neither Clinton for ties to China or Hunter Biden for his Russia ties
>>>>> has been indicted for anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do know that "ties to" is not actually a crime, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did the two men comply with federal law requiring disclosure?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What federal law requiring disclosure? Neither of them are
>>> politicians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are myriad federal laws requiring disclosure that aren't limited
>>>>>>>>>> to politicians. Anyone acting as a foreign agent is required to
>>>>>>>>>> register, for instance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But there no actual indication that either of them were acting as a
>>>>>>>>> foreign agent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That would be the buckets full of cash. What is there to dispute?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clinton never got buckets full of cash from China. No, an illegal
>>>>>>> campaign contribution he never even saw doesn't count. Even if he did,
>>>>>>> you would have to show that he was doing something in the United States
>>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't look up the accusation versus Clinton and made no comment on
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for Hunter Biden, acting as a conduit for a Russian
>>>>>>> billionaire investing in a tech startup isn't what that law is referring
>>>>>>> to as being a foreign agent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this case, the accusation versus Hunter Biden is that he received
>>>>>> buckets full of cash from China.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're being willfully blind here, Johnston, and I have no idea why you
>>>>>> are trying to change the topic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This has been known for a couple of years. For instance,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/20/world/hunter-biden-china-cobalt.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What makes you think business dealings like that aren't subject to
>>>>>> disclosure?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think they don't qualify as being a foreign agent. I've never heard
>>>>> any indication that his investment in China was a secret.
>>>>
>>>> Well, you'd be wrong. If everybody knew, then he should have filed
>>>> disclosure as required.
>>>
>>> Once again, as required by what? What is the disclosure that he didn't
>>> file?
>>
>> Johnston, you are delusional that someone could be paid that kind of
>> money to act in the interest of a foreign government and not be required
>> to disclose it.
>
>He was a 10% stakeholder in a company that helped a Chinese company buy
>a mine in Kongo. There is no indication in the story that he so much as
>lifted a finger to make that happen nor did anything associated with
>that transaction happen in the United States. So is it your contention
>that everyone who has any foreign business dealings needs to register as
>a foreign agent?

Given the connections between big business in China, particularly
strategic minerals, and the Chinese Communist Party, yes, it's obviously
acting on behalf of a foreign government. This has nothing to do with
what disclosure is required if an American is acting on behalf of a foreign
business based in a different country.

You are damn well aware of this, Johnston. You're just doing your act.

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