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* PPB: November / Edmund Spenser (1)George J. Dance
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From: georgeda...@yahoo.ca (George J. Dance)
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Subject: Re: PPB: November / Edmund Spenser (1)
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 by: George J. Dance - Mon, 7 Nov 2022 20:33 UTC

On 2022-11-07 2:36 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:32:50 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-06 4:45 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
>>> General-Zod wrote:
>>>
>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
>>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
>>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
>>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
>>>
>>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
>>>
>>> Agreed, Spenser is always a blast, a bit like a Monty Python character.
>>>
>>> :)
>> I wouldn't say Spenser is, but I can see how his characters could remind
>> you of the /Holy Grail/.
>
> I'd like to hear how you think they could.
>
> Spenser's characters are allegorical, whereas Gilliam's are absurdist.

I wish I had time to. Unfortunately, my thread's been hijacked to
discuss a "Glitch", and I'll have to give my attention to that.

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From: georgeda...@yahoo.ca (George J. Dance)
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 by: George J. Dance - Mon, 7 Nov 2022 20:44 UTC

On 2022-11-06 8:32 p.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>
>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
>>> [...]
>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
>>> [...]
>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
>
> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...

It's not a NovaBBS issue; NovaBBS shows both Will's and Zod's posts
appearing at the same times that usenet shows them as posted.

Google Glitch is the one that shows them both being posted hours later.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Mon, 7 Nov 2022 20:48 UTC

On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 3:44:21 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-06 8:32 p.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> >>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
> >>> [...]
> >>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
> >>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
> >>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
> >>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
> >>> [...]
> >>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
> >> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
> >
> > Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
> It's not a NovaBBS issue; NovaBBS shows both Will's and Zod's posts
> appearing at the same times that usenet shows them as posted.
>
> Google Glitch is the one that shows them both being posted hours later.

No one cares whose glitch it is, George. Nova records posts properly *on Nova*; Google records posts properly on Google.

The two programs don't interface correctly.

Since Google is the Standard, and Nova BS is... b.s., I feel that it behooves Nova to see that their program complies with Google's.

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 by: Zod - Mon, 7 Nov 2022 20:49 UTC

On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:06:23 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> General-Zod wrote:
> > George J. Dance wrote:
> >
> >> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> >> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
> >> [...]
> >> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
> >> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
> >> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
> >> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
> >> [...]
> >> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
> > Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
>
> Agreed, Spenser is always a blast, a bit like a Monty Python character.
>
> :)

Indeed, i see the connection fo sho...

clip from Terry Gilliam's Jabberwocky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxDCqwf9o08

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 by: George J. Dance - Mon, 7 Nov 2022 20:50 UTC

On 2022-11-07 2:20 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:32:01 PM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:25:42 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:04:24 PM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 12:54:21 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>>>>>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
>>>>>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
>>>>>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
>>>>>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
>>>>>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
>>>>> Read the thread on Nova BBS and it doesn't look so strange:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=179635&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#179635
>>>> That isn't the point, Donkey.
>>>>
>>>> The point is that Nova BS does not interface well with Google Groups.
>>>>
>>>> One of the resultant glitches, as I'd mentioned in another thread, is that it does the headers do not always quote the post being replied to -- making it appear, for instance, that someone replying to General Stink was actually replying to someone else.
>>> You haven't shown any examples of that yet, though.
>> None, as yet, have occurred.
>>
>> In the meantime, we have the strange, out of sequence posts above.
>
> Nova BBS seems to have a delayed posting problem, lately.

If anyone has a delayed posting problem, it's Google Glitch.

Usenet has Zod's post being posted at 2.55 pm EST; the timestamp on the
Google version has it being posted at 7.12 pm.

Usenet has your reply being posted at 4.45 pm; no one timestamped it,
but (according to MMP), Google had it posted six minutes before Zod's,
ie at 7.06 pm.

Definitely a Google Glitch problem.

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 by: George J. Dance - Mon, 7 Nov 2022 20:58 UTC

On 2022-11-07 3:30 p.m., Zod wrote:
> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:41:47 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-07 5:27 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:34:45 AM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>>>>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
>>>>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
>>>>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
>>>>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
>>>>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
>>>>> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
>>>> Compare the Nova BBS page with the Google Groups page:
>>>>
>>>> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
>>>
>>> IOW: It's another Nova BS glitch.
>> No, it looks like a Google Glitch. NovaBBS has the posts in order;
>> Google Glitch doesn't.
>
> Exactly....

Moreso: NovaBBS's information (as to when the posts appeared) is the
same as on usenet: Google Glitch has them both showing up hours later.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Mon, 7 Nov 2022 20:59 UTC

On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-07 3:30 p.m., Zod wrote:
> > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:41:47 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-07 5:27 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:34:45 AM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> >>>>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
> >>>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
> >>>>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
> >>>>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
> >>>>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
> >>>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
> >>>>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
> >>>>> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
> >>>> Compare the Nova BBS page with the Google Groups page:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
> >>>
> >>> IOW: It's another Nova BS glitch.
> >> No, it looks like a Google Glitch. NovaBBS has the posts in order;
> >> Google Glitch doesn't.
> >
> > Exactly....
> Moreso: NovaBBS's information (as to when the posts appeared) is the
> same as on usenet: Google Glitch has them both showing up hours later.

Plonk.

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 by: George J. Dance - Mon, 7 Nov 2022 21:00 UTC

On 2022-11-07 3:27 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:41:47 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-07 5:27 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:34:45 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 8:32:22 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>>>>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
>>>>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
>>>>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
>>>>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
>>>>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
>>>>> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
>>>> Compare the Nova BBS page with the Google Groups page:
>>>>
>>>> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
>>>
>>> IOW: It's another Nova BS glitch.
>> No, it looks like a Google Glitch. NovaBBS has the posts in order;
>> Google Glitch doesn't.
>
> That's irrelevant, George.
>
> If Google and Nova BS don't always interface properly, you get glitches -- like the one I'd previously described.

NovaBBS doesn't 'interface' with Google Glitch, Michael; it interfaces
with usenet. And that interface is working perfectly. Google Glitch is
where the problem lies.

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 by: George J. Dance - Mon, 7 Nov 2022 21:03 UTC

On 2022-11-07 3:59 p.m., Spam-I-Am wrote:
>
> Plonk.

Was there a fly buzzing around here again?

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 by: George J. Dance - Mon, 7 Nov 2022 21:09 UTC

On 2022-11-07 1:23 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>>> George J. Dance wrote: > > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: >
>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1) > [...] > Thilke sollein season
>>> sadder plight doth aske, > And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest
>>> prayse: > The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske, > As shee
>>> was wont in youngth and sommer dayes. > [...] >
>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
>
>> Funny how the  quotes and responds to
>
> Nova BBS and Google Groups difference,  as Ash mentioned.

Yes, there's an obvious difference. But, unlike what the Ashtroll
mentioned, there's no problem with NovaBBS.

Google Glitch, OTOH, is the one holding back posts.

My guess is that Google is holding back posts from other web portals
(like Nova BBS) to manually check each one for "misinformation". But
that's just a theory as to why.

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 by: General-Zod - Mon, 7 Nov 2022 21:22 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-11-07 1:23 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>>>> George J. Dance wrote: > > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: >
>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1) > [...] > Thilke sollein season
>>>> sadder plight doth aske, > And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest
>>>> prayse: > The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske, > As shee
>>>> was wont in youngth and sommer dayes. > [...] >
>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
>>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
>>
>>> Funny how the  quotes and responds to
>>
>> Nova BBS and Google Groups difference,  as Ash mentioned.

> Yes, there's an obvious difference. But, unlike what the Ashtroll
> mentioned, there's no problem with NovaBBS.

> Google Glitch, OTOH, is the one holding back posts.

> My guess is that Google is holding back posts from other web portals
> (like Nova BBS) to manually check each one for "misinformation". But
> that's just a theory as to why.

That's interesting GD... could help in cutting down forgery and identity theft if they look at their OWN posters a little closer...!

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 by: Will Dockery - Mon, 7 Nov 2022 21:57 UTC

On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-07 3:30 p.m., Zod wrote:
> > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:41:47 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-07 5:27 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:34:45 AM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> >>>>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
> >>>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
> >>>>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
> >>>>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
> >>>>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
> >>>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
> >>>>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
> >>>>> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
> >>>> Compare the Nova BBS page with the Google Groups page:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
> >>>
> >>> IOW: It's another Nova BS glitch.
> >> No, it looks like a Google Glitch. NovaBBS has the posts in order;
> >> Google Glitch doesn't.
> >
> > Exactly....
> Moreso: NovaBBS's information (as to when the posts appeared) is the
> same as on usenet: Google Glitch has them both showing up hours later.

Yes, there's been a delay going from Nova BBS to Google Groups for several days.

The posts do appear fairly soon so it isn't a big deal.

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 by: W.Dockery - Mon, 7 Nov 2022 21:05 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-11-07 1:04 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 12:54:21 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>>>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
>>>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
>>>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
>>>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
>>>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
>>>
>>>> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
>>> Read the thread on Nova BBS and it doesn't look so strange:
>>>
>>> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=179635&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#179635
>>
>> That isn't the point, Donkey.
>>
>> The point is that Nova BS does not interface well with Google Groups.

> Nova BBS interfaces with usenet; the posts appear there when they appear
> on usenet.

> It's Google Glitch that seems to post them whenever.

>>
>> One of the resultant glitches, as I'd mentioned in another thread, is that it does the headers do not always quote the post being replied to -- making it appear, for instance, that someone replying to General Stink was actually replying to someone else.
>>

> So you've said, but in that case Google Glitch and NovaBBS, and usenet,
> all showed the same thing: that the MEatpuppet was trolling and flaming
> Dr. Dalton, not General Zod (as you claimed).

As a look at /any/ of the Usenet will show:

https://news.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=176838&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#176838

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 8 Nov 2022 00:19 UTC

On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 4:00:25 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-07 3:27 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:41:47 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-07 5:27 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:34:45 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 8:32:22 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> >>>>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
> >>>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
> >>>>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
> >>>>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
> >>>>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
> >>>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
> >>>>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
> >>>>> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
> >>>> Compare the Nova BBS page with the Google Groups page:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
> >>>
> >>> IOW: It's another Nova BS glitch.
> >> No, it looks like a Google Glitch. NovaBBS has the posts in order;
> >> Google Glitch doesn't.
> >
> > That's irrelevant, George.
> >
> > If Google and Nova BS don't always interface properly, you get glitches -- like the one I'd previously described.
> NovaBBS doesn't 'interface' with Google Glitch, Michael; it interfaces
> with usenet. And that interface is working perfectly. Google Glitch is
> where the problem lies.

Jesus fuck, George, wtf is your problem?

No one cares whether Google or Nova BS is to blame.

Regardless of which one is at fault, posts made to Nova BS do not always appear correctly in Google Groups.

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 by: Edward Rochester Esq - Tue, 8 Nov 2022 00:30 UTC

On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 7:19:04 PM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 4:00:25 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-11-07 3:27 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:41:47 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >> On 2022-11-07 5:27 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:34:45 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 8:32:22 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > >>>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > >>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> > >>>>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
> > >>>>>>> [...]
> > >>>>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
> > >>>>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
> > >>>>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
> > >>>>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
> > >>>>>>> [...]
> > >>>>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
> > >>>>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
> > >>>>> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
> > >>>> Compare the Nova BBS page with the Google Groups page:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
> > >>>
> > >>> IOW: It's another Nova BS glitch.
> > >> No, it looks like a Google Glitch. NovaBBS has the posts in order;
> > >> Google Glitch doesn't.
> > >
> > > That's irrelevant, George.
> > >
> > > If Google and Nova BS don't always interface properly, you get glitches -- like the one I'd previously described.
> > NovaBBS doesn't 'interface' with Google Glitch, Michael; it interfaces
> > with usenet. And that interface is working perfectly. Google Glitch is
> > where the problem lies.
> Jesus fuck, George, wtf is your problem?
>
> No one cares whether Google or Nova BS is to blame.
>
> Regardless of which one is at fault, posts made to Nova BS do not always appear correctly in Google Groups.

Dance is losing it, stuck on the mundane with nowhere to go.

...and I'm the one who's senile

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 8 Nov 2022 01:00 UTC

On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 5:46:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
> > On 2022-11-07 1:23 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >>>> George J. Dance wrote: > > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: >
> >>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1) > [...] > Thilke sollein season
> >>>> sadder plight doth aske, > And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest
> >>>> prayse: > The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske, > As shee
> >>>> was wont in youngth and sommer dayes. > [...] >
> >>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
> >>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
> >>
> >>> Funny how the quotes and responds to
> >>
> >> Nova BBS and Google Groups difference, as Ash mentioned.
>
> > Yes, there's an obvious difference. But, unlike what the Ashtroll
> > mentioned, there's no problem with NovaBBS.
>
> > Google Glitch, OTOH, is the one holding back posts.
>
> > My guess is that Google is holding back posts from other web portals
> > (like Nova BBS) to manually check each one for "misinformation". But
> > that's just a theory as to why.
> That's interesting GD... could help in cutting down forgery and identity theft if they look at their OWN posters a little closer...!

Probably not.

🙂

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 8 Nov 2022 02:00 UTC

Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:

> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 7:19:04 PM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 4:00:25 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > On 2022-11-07 3:27 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:41:47 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > >> On 2022-11-07 5:27 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > >>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:34:45 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > >>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 8:32:22 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> > >>>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> > >>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>> > >>>>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
>> > >>>>>>> [...]
>> > >>>>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
>> > >>>>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
>> > >>>>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
>> > >>>>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
>> > >>>>>>> [...]
>> > >>>>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
>> > >>>>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
>> > >>>>> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
>> > >>>> Compare the Nova BBS page with the Google Groups page:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
>> > >>>
>> > >>> IOW: It's another Nova BS glitch.
>> > >> No, it looks like a Google Glitch. NovaBBS has the posts in order;
>> > >> Google Glitch doesn't.
>> > >
>> > > That's irrelevant, George.
>> > >
>> > > If Google and Nova BS don't always interface properly, you get glitches -- like the one I'd previously described.
>> > NovaBBS doesn't 'interface' with Google Glitch, Michael; it interfaces
>> > with usenet. And that interface is working perfectly. Google Glitch is
>> > where the problem lies.
>> Jesus fuck, George, wtf is your problem?
>>
>> No one cares whether Google or Nova BS is to blame.
>>
>> Regardless of which one is at fault, posts made to Nova BS do not always appear correctly in Google Groups.

> Dance is losing it

Says Jim Senetto, the hopelessly obsessed, feeble minded nutjob.

🙂

> ...and I'm the one who's senile

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 by: W-Dockery - Tue, 8 Nov 2022 23:11 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:41:47 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-07 5:27 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> >>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>
>> >>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>> >>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
>> >>>>> [...]
>> >>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
>> >>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
>> >>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
>> >>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
>> >>>>> [...]
>> >>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
>> >>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
>> >>> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
>> >> Compare the Nova BBS page with the Google Groups page:
>> >>
>> >> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
>> >
>> > IOW: It's another Nova BS glitch.
>> No, it looks like a Google Glitch. NovaBBS has the posts in order;
>> Google Glitch doesn't.

> That's irrelevant, George.

Not really.

:)

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Subject: Re: PPB: November / Edmund Spenser (1)
From: michaelm...@gmail.com (Michael Pendragon)
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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 9 Nov 2022 13:51 UTC

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 12:44:45 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:41:47 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-07 5:27 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> >>>> George J. Dance wrote:
> >
> >> >>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> >> >>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
> >> >>>>> [...]
> >> >>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
> >> >>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
> >> >>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
> >> >>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
> >> >>>>> [...]
> >> >>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
> >> >>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
> >> >>> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
> >> >> Compare the Nova BBS page with the Google Groups page:
> >> >>
> >> >> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
> >> >
> >> > IOW: It's another Nova BS glitch.
> >> No, it looks like a Google Glitch. NovaBBS has the posts in order;
> >> Google Glitch doesn't.
>
> > That's irrelevant, George.
> Not really.

Explain what makes it relevant in regard to the issue at hand.

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 by: W-Dockery - Wed, 9 Nov 2022 16:56 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 12:44:45 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:41:47 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >> On 2022-11-07 5:27 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> >> >>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>> >
>> >> >>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>> >> >>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
>> >> >>>>> [...]
>> >> >>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
>> >> >>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
>> >> >>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
>> >> >>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
>> >> >>>>> [...]
>> >> >>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
>> >> >>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
>> >> >>> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
>> >> >> Compare the Nova BBS page with the Google Groups page:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
>> >> >
>> >> > IOW: It's another Nova BS glitch.
>> >> No, it looks like a Google Glitch. NovaBBS has the posts in order;
>> >> Google Glitch doesn't.
>>
>> > That's irrelevant, George.
>> Not really.

> Explain what makes it relevant

You were mistaken when you called it a Nova BBS glitch, when it's actually a Google Groups glitch.

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Subject: Re: PPB: November / Edmund Spenser (1)
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 by: Zod - Wed, 9 Nov 2022 20:30 UTC

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 8:51:43 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 12:44:45 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> >>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>
> > >> >>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> > >> >>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
> > >> >>>>> [...]
> > >> >>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
> > >> >>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
> > >> >>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
> > >> >>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
> > >> >>>>> [...]
> > >> >>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
> > >> >>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
> > >> >>> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
> > >> >> Compare the Nova BBS page with the Google Groups page:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
> > >> >
> > >> > IOW: It's another Nova BS glitch.
> > >> No, it looks like a Google Glitch. NovaBBS has the posts in order;
> > >> Google Glitch doesn't.
> >
> > > That's irrelevant, George.
> > Not really.
> Explain what makes it relevant

Figure it out for yourself, Voodoo boy... ha ha.

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 by: W-Dockery - Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:26 UTC

Zod wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 8:51:43 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 12:44:45 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > >> >>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>> > >> >>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>> > >> >>>>> November, by Edmund Spenser (1)
>> > >> >>>>> [...]
>> > >> >>>>> Thilke sollein season sadder plight doth aske,
>> > >> >>>>> And loatheth sike delightes as thou doest prayse:
>> > >> >>>>> The mornefull Muse in myrth now list ne maske,
>> > >> >>>>> As shee was wont in youngth and sommer dayes.
>> > >> >>>>> [...]
>> > >> >>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/11/november-edmund-spenser-1.html
>> > >> >>>> Quite excellente, Forsooth...!
>> > >> >>> Strange indeed, even if it was a Nova BBS issue...
>> > >> >> Compare the Nova BBS page with the Google Groups page:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
>> > >> >
>> > >> > IOW: It's another Nova BS glitch.
>> > >> No, it looks like a Google Glitch. NovaBBS has the posts in order;
>> > >> Google Glitch doesn't.
>> >
>> > > That's irrelevant, George.
>> > Not really.
>> Explain what makes it relevant

> Figure it out for yourself, Voodoo boy... ha ha.

Don't confuse him.

🙂

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