On a red-level allergy day, I watched:

RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE:
"Teacher Makeovers". The queens give drag makeovers to hard-working
teachers, from kindergarten to high school. Queer pop musician Hayley
Kiyoko guest judges. What a strange challenge! I wonder what gave them
this idea? I caught this while channelk-surfing and didn't stick around
to see what would happen.

UFOS: INVESTIGATING THE UNKNOWN:
I watched several eps of this series on NatGeo. Being NatGeo, I was
suspicious and the show didn't seem to be skeptical at all.

What did you watch?

--
Let's go Brandon!

On 2023-03-25 09:30:40 +0000, Ubiquitous said:

> What did you watch?

After work and errands, I came home to watch:

March Madness - In the definition of "win ugly", San Diego St.(!)
outlasted the overall #1 seed to win! - For the first time, the
Mountain West conference has gotten a team into the Elite 8!!
U Miami (FL) takes out the last remaining #1 Seed (Houston) - for
the first time ever *no* #1 Seeds have made it to the Elite 8!!
Meanwhile, Princeton's Cinderalla dance comes to an end at the hands
of Creighton. And Texas beats Xavier - I have a bad feeling now that
Texas is going to win the whole thing this year... :/

soaps: DOOL - Tues' ep. In a deus ex machina, Sloan's suit against
Paulina and Chanel is dismissed, but Slaon continues to vow REVENGE!!
We find out that Jada's sister isn't really a "baker" - she went to Med
School! (Why should I care?!) EJ and Nicole are going to conspire to
try to get Gabi and Stefan to break Li's "no infidelity" clause.

I finished out with two Lifetime movies:

Twisted Sister (Lifetime) - Some Lifetime movies have patently false
titles (my recent favorite of these is "My Mom Made Me Do It", which is
a complete lie! (unless they aren't talking about the film's main
character or something!)). But other Lifetime movies give it
comepletely away in the title, to such a degree that you might as well
just skip the movie.
This one was one of the latter.
Mena Suvari plays a career gal with a shaky marriage to Mark
Famiglietti. Out of nowhere, a woman (Joy Nash) claiming to be her
long-lost "older" sister (which was problem #1, as Nash does *not* look
older than Suvari!!) shows up out of nowhere.
From here on in, it's clear that someone is trying to kill Suvari,
and the movie is clearly leading you to thinking it's the husband.
But there's the problem of the film's title.
Even knowing that, the ending seems to come out of left field - if
you're going to try to "twist" like that, you have to leave some actual
*clues* to that before hand.

Nanny Dearest (recorded off Lifetime last week) - Kayleigh Anne Ruller
(who seems to only work a couple of times a decade!!) plays a
reasonably attractive but disturbed young women who "snaps" where her
loser boyfriend accidentally kills their baby, and retaliates by
killing him. Ten years later she's out of the clink and decides to
"reclaim" the baby that was produced from her egg donation. Liz Fenning
plays the mom of the egg-donated daughter.
Fenning is older than I thought - from previous projects, I thought
she was 30-ish, but this film makes it pretty clear that Fenning must
be more like late 30s.
The film relies on unrelable narration from the disturbed woman, a
plot device that I continue to strongly dislike...
Gah - this film ends dark and depressing.

--
"Who would ever do this to him!?" - HottCiara on DOOL (04-27-2020), asking
who would stab Victor Kirakis... How about ANYONE WHO'S EVER MET HIM??!!

Stargate: SG-1 *whaps Anim*

S1E09 'Thor's Hammer'
Daniel has a theory that there might be some friendly, good guy aliens
out there which prompts Teal'c to tell everyone that all Jaffa have to
memorize gate co-ordinates to a planet that no Goa'uld is ever supposed
to go to because they never come back from it. No one asks why he
didn't tell them about this earlier. Instead they all immediately head
for that planet. They arrive, the locals who just happen to be doing
something in the immediate vicinity of the Stargate despite it
apparently being in the middle of nowhere, immediately begin chanting
"Thor! Thor!". A beam shoots out of the hammer monolith in front of
the Stargate and zaps Teal'c just as Jack leaps to push Teal'c out of
the beam so both of them get zapped away.

The locals go back to pretending to work in the middle of nowhere until
a local woman rides up to talk to the strangers. Carter and Jackson
talk to her to get the first part of the mandatory exposition before
going off with the woman to find another woman is the only one known to
have escaped from where ever the beam zapped Jack and Teal'c to. Second
local woman turns out to be a former Goa'uld host saved by Thor's
Hammer! *dramatic pause* More exposition before some distant thunder
tells her to lead Carter and Jackson to where Jack and Teal'c are.

Meanwhile said Jack and Teal'c are in a cave being berated by a hologram
of a giant Viking for being Goa'uld while being told that only their
hosts can leave the Labyrinth alive. They wander around a bit, meet an
Unas who stole James Earl Jones' voice and spend some time fighting and
running away from it. Eventually they find the way out which is guarded
by Thor's Hammer! *dramatic pause* Otherwise known as a somewhat
hammer-shaped arch in front of the door out. Jack can just walk out but
Teal'c would be left without an immune system when Thor's Hammer!
*dramatic pause* finishes slowly roasting his larval Goa'uld inside
him. Another fight with the Unas (you know if you add another 's' it
would be an Un-ass) so half our heroes can push it into Thor's Hammer!
*dramatic pause* to kill it just before Jackson, Carter and local
ex-Goa'uld host come in thru the door.

Much emotional hand-wringing about they can't leave Teal'c behind in the
cave but they need Thor's Hammer! *dramatic pause* to save Sha're and
Skaara before Jack makes Jackson take Teal'c's staff and shoot Thor's
Hammer! *dramatic pause* from the other side next to the door out. (A
nice sadistic touch by Jack making Jackson do it.) Epilogue and
good-byes while Jackson consoles himself with "At least now we know it
can be done".

Then I watched a five minute fluff piece DVD extra.

What Did You Watch?

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

On 3/25/2023 10:14 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> Stargate: SG-1 *whaps Anim*
>
> S1E09 'Thor's Hammer'
> Daniel has a theory that there might be some friendly, good guy aliens
> out there which prompts Teal'c to tell everyone that all Jaffa have to
> memorize gate co-ordinates to a planet that no Goa'uld is ever supposed
> to go to because they never come back from it.  No one asks why he
> didn't tell them about this earlier.  Instead they all immediately head
> for that planet.  They arrive, the locals who just happen to be doing
> something in the immediate vicinity of the Stargate despite it
> apparently being in the middle of nowhere, immediately begin chanting
> "Thor!  Thor!".  A beam shoots out of the hammer monolith in front of
> the Stargate and zaps Teal'c just as Jack leaps to push Teal'c out of
> the beam so both of them get zapped away.
>
> The locals go back to pretending to work in the middle of nowhere until
> a local woman rides up to talk to the strangers.  Carter and Jackson
> talk to her to get the first part of the mandatory exposition before
> going off with the woman to find another woman is the only one known to
> have escaped from where ever the beam zapped Jack and Teal'c to.  Second
> local woman turns out to be a former Goa'uld host saved by Thor's
> Hammer!  *dramatic pause*  More exposition before some distant thunder
> tells her to lead Carter and Jackson to where Jack and Teal'c are.
>
> Meanwhile said Jack and Teal'c are in a cave being berated by a hologram
> of a giant Viking for being Goa'uld while being told that only their
> hosts can leave the Labyrinth alive.  They wander around a bit, meet an
> Unas who stole James Earl Jones' voice and spend some time fighting and
> running away from it.  Eventually they find the way out which is guarded
> by Thor's Hammer!  *dramatic pause*  Otherwise known as a somewhat
> hammer-shaped arch in front of the door out.  Jack can just walk out but
> Teal'c would be left without an immune system when Thor's Hammer!
> *dramatic pause*  finishes slowly roasting his larval Goa'uld inside
> him.  Another fight with the Unas (you know if you add another 's' it
> would be an Un-ass) so half our heroes can push it into Thor's Hammer!
> *dramatic pause*  to kill it just before Jackson, Carter and local
> ex-Goa'uld host come in thru the door.
>

Wait, so some Goa'uld willing gave up its' life so the host could live?

> Much emotional hand-wringing about they can't leave Teal'c behind in the
> cave but they need Thor's Hammer!  *dramatic pause*  to save Sha're and
> Skaara before Jack makes Jackson take Teal'c's staff and shoot Thor's
> Hammer!  *dramatic pause*  from the other side next to the door out.  (A
> nice sadistic touch by Jack making Jackson do it.)  Epilogue and
> good-byes while Jackson consoles himself with "At least now we know it
> can be done".
>

So Thor didn't show up and save the day? Must be a later episode. I'm
guessing after "The Fifth Race."

> Then I watched a five minute fluff piece DVD extra.
>
> What Did You Watch?
>

Law & Order - "Deadline" - Mostly background noise.

Star Trek: Picard - Already discussed.

John Wick: Chapter 4 (theatrical) Picking up shortly after where Chapter
3 ended, everyone on the planet is still trying to kill John Wick and he
still plans to kill them all first. Bill Skarsgård joins the franchise
as the new head villain and he's tasked with killing Wick by any means
necessary. To do this he sets out destroying anyone and anything that
might help Wick and bringing on an assassin even cooler than Wick in the
form of Ip Man, I mean Donnie Yen. Yen pretty much steals the movie in
every scene he's in. And this is in a movie full of scene stealers.
Then of course there's the action. This movie is non stop adrenaline
rush of action. Just set piece after set piece after set piece. You
*will* be on the edge of your seat watching Wick walk up a flight of
stairs! Not only is the movie nonstop action, it also *looks*
stunningly beautiful. The cinematography better win someone an Academy
Award. This is by far the best looking movie of recent memory. I don't
know how they did it, but this movie topped 3. It is a must watch for
fans of the franchise or just fans of action movies in general. See it
on the biggest screen possible, and stick around through the credits...

In article <tvns6o$2c44v$1@dont-email.me>,
Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> John Wick: Chapter 4 (theatrical) Picking up shortly after where Chapter
> 3 ended, everyone on the planet is still trying to kill John Wick and he
> still plans to kill them all first. Bill Skarsgård joins the franchise
> as the new head villain and he's tasked with killing Wick by any means
> necessary. To do this he sets out destroying anyone and anything that
> might help Wick and bringing on an assassin even cooler than Wick in the
> form of Ip Man, I mean Donnie Yen. Yen pretty much steals the movie in
> every scene he's in. And this is in a movie full of scene stealers.
> Then of course there's the action. This movie is non stop adrenaline
> rush of action. Just set piece after set piece after set piece. You
> *will* be on the edge of your seat watching Wick walk up a flight of
> stairs! Not only is the movie nonstop action, it also *looks*
> stunningly beautiful. The cinematography better win someone an Academy
> Award. This is by far the best looking movie of recent memory. I don't
> know how they did it, but this movie topped 3. It is a must watch for
> fans of the franchise or just fans of action movies in general. See it
> on the biggest screen possible, and stick around through the credits...

I have served. I will be of service.

On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 9:05:32 AM UTC-5, Ubiquitous wrote:
> On a red-level allergy day, I watched:
>
> RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE:
> "Teacher Makeovers". The queens give drag makeovers to hard-working
> teachers, from kindergarten to high school. Queer pop musician Hayley
> Kiyoko guest judges. What a strange challenge! I wonder what gave them
> this idea? I caught this while channelk-surfing and didn't stick around
> to see what would happen.
>
> UFOS: INVESTIGATING THE UNKNOWN:
> I watched several eps of this series on NatGeo. Being NatGeo, I was
> suspicious and the show didn't seem to be skeptical at all.
>
> What did you watch?
>
> --
> Let's go Brandon!

Watched a repeat of an A&E show on the escape from Alcatraz by the Anglin brothers, Frank Morris was mentioned. The Anglins made it to Brazil according to photo comparisons. I'm surprised retired US marshals get so much help since they make the current squad look lazy.

On 3/25/2023 3:22 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
> On 3/25/2023 10:14 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>> Stargate: SG-1 *whaps Anim*
>>
>> S1E09 'Thor's Hammer'
>> Daniel has a theory that there might be some friendly, good guy aliens
>> out there which prompts Teal'c to tell everyone that all Jaffa have to
>> memorize gate co-ordinates to a planet that no Goa'uld is ever
>> supposed to go to because they never come back from it.  No one asks
>> why he didn't tell them about this earlier.  Instead they all
>> immediately head for that planet.  They arrive, the locals who just
>> happen to be doing something in the immediate vicinity of the Stargate
>> despite it apparently being in the middle of nowhere, immediately
>> begin chanting "Thor!  Thor!".  A beam shoots out of the hammer
>> monolith in front of the Stargate and zaps Teal'c just as Jack leaps
>> to push Teal'c out of the beam so both of them get zapped away.
>>
>> The locals go back to pretending to work in the middle of nowhere
>> until a local woman rides up to talk to the strangers.  Carter and
>> Jackson talk to her to get the first part of the mandatory exposition
>> before going off with the woman to find another woman is the only one
>> known to have escaped from where ever the beam zapped Jack and Teal'c
>> to.  Second local woman turns out to be a former Goa'uld host saved by
>> Thor's Hammer!  *dramatic pause*  More exposition before some distant
>> thunder tells her to lead Carter and Jackson to where Jack and Teal'c
>> are.
>>
>> Meanwhile said Jack and Teal'c are in a cave being berated by a
>> hologram of a giant Viking for being Goa'uld while being told that
>> only their hosts can leave the Labyrinth alive.  They wander around a
>> bit, meet an Unas who stole James Earl Jones' voice and spend some
>> time fighting and running away from it.  Eventually they find the way
>> out which is guarded by Thor's Hammer!  *dramatic pause*  Otherwise
>> known as a somewhat hammer-shaped arch in front of the door out.  Jack
>> can just walk out but Teal'c would be left without an immune system
>> when Thor's Hammer! *dramatic pause*  finishes slowly roasting his
>> larval Goa'uld inside him.  Another fight with the Unas (you know if
>> you add another 's' it would be an Un-ass) so half our heroes can push
>> it into Thor's Hammer! *dramatic pause*  to kill it just before
>> Jackson, Carter and local ex-Goa'uld host come in thru the door.
>>
>
> Wait, so some Goa'uld willing gave up its' life so the host could live?
>
Not willingly.... The survivor called it a war of wills with her
constantly "whispering" in the Gao'uld's "ear".

>
>> Much emotional hand-wringing about they can't leave Teal'c behind in
>> the cave but they need Thor's Hammer!  *dramatic pause*  to save
>> Sha're and Skaara before Jack makes Jackson take Teal'c's staff and
>> shoot Thor's Hammer!  *dramatic pause*  from the other side next to
>> the door out.  (A nice sadistic touch by Jack making Jackson do it.)
>> Epilogue and good-byes while Jackson consoles himself with "At least
>> now we know it can be done".
>>
>
> So Thor didn't show up and save the day?  Must be a later episode.  I'm
> guessing after "The Fifth Race."
>
This is still the first season when they were figuring out what they
wanted to do and just starting to lay out some clues.

>
>> Then I watched a five minute fluff piece DVD extra.
>>
>> What Did You Watch?
>>
>
>
> Law & Order - "Deadline" - Mostly background noise.
>
>
> Star Trek: Picard - Already discussed.
>
>
> John Wick: Chapter 4 (theatrical) Picking up shortly after where Chapter
> 3 ended, everyone on the planet is still trying to kill John Wick and he
> still plans to kill them all first.  Bill Skarsgård joins the franchise
> as the new head villain and he's tasked with killing Wick by any means
> necessary.  To do this he sets out destroying anyone and anything that
> might help Wick and bringing on an assassin even cooler than Wick in the
> form of Ip Man, I mean Donnie Yen.  Yen pretty much steals the movie in
> every scene he's in.  And this is in a movie full of scene stealers.
> Then of course there's the action.  This movie is non stop adrenaline
> rush of action.  Just set piece after set piece after set piece.  You
> *will* be on the edge of your seat watching Wick walk up a flight of
> stairs!  Not only is the movie nonstop action, it also *looks*
> stunningly beautiful.  The cinematography better win someone an Academy
> Award.  This is by far the best looking movie of recent memory.  I don't
> know how they did it, but this movie topped 3. It is a must watch for
> fans of the franchise or just fans of action movies in general.  See it
> on the biggest screen possible, and stick around through the credits...

I'm hoping to see this tomorrow (Sunday).

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> On a red-level allergy day, I watched:
>
> RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE:
> "Teacher Makeovers". The queens give drag makeovers to hard-working
> teachers, from kindergarten to high school. Queer pop musician Hayley
> Kiyoko guest judges. What a strange challenge! I wonder what gave them
> this idea? I caught this while channelk-surfing and didn't stick around
> to see what would happen.
>
> UFOS: INVESTIGATING THE UNKNOWN:
> I watched several eps of this series on NatGeo. Being NatGeo, I was
> suspicious and the show didn't seem to be skeptical at all.
>
> What did you watch?

Hey, thanks for asking!

Not me personally, but this just in from Ob Veeus:

Other stuff I watched this week:
FARAWAY: A mid life crisis type tale about a woman whose mother dies and
leaves her a house in Croatia. She flees her father, husband, and daughter
to find out about her mom’s secret house. Nothing deep, but a good story.
MAN ON PAUSE: I finished up this series about an older guy who owns a
lingerie store and has an annoying family. This was a mess of
storytelling. A few people died at the end, which was good, but I have no
idea why this was made.
NAKED AND AFRAID SOLO: I finally caught an episode with the guy who left
his fire starter behind so he could do his challenge the right way. On day
8 he plans to hike back to the starting line to get the fire starter
because he never has been able to get one going on his own.
NEW HEIGHTS: A Swiss German Netflix series (NEUMATT) about a family trying
to keep their dairy farm going after the patriarch’s sudden departrure.
The family consists of a cheating wife, a drug addled wall street son, an
evil daughter with an evil daughter, and a son with limited mental prowess
who actually knows the dairy business. This is leaning towards soap opera.
LORENSKOG DISAPPEARANCE: A Norwegian based upon a true crime miniseries
that has a really frustrating ending because it is based upon a true story.
This is another one of Netflix’s true crime stories that I’m surprised
that they don’t get sued for telling.
CLASS OF ’07: An Australian comedy series starring Emily Brown and Megan
Smart on AmazonPrime. About a high school 10 year reunion at an all-girls
school that is suddenly hit with a freak catastrophe that leaves them all
stranded. This is full of low brow humor like cutting off a person’s toe
for no reason and lots of barfing and shitting humor. It is ok as comedy
and certainly full of snarkable moments.
ALASKA DAILY: The latest episode which shows that none of the reporters
care about crimes getting solved in ways that get people arrested.
Instead, getting the story in the paper is more important than getting it
to the police so they spend their time breaking laws and threatening people
with blackmail and such just so they can prove that the police can’t do
their job. Also, there was some confusing dialog such as “many Alaskan
villages don’t have any cops, just a village police officer”. Huh?
DAISY JONES AND THE SIX: A couple more episodes of this AmazonPrime series
about a 1970s rock band. They finally introduced a song that has a bit of
that “ear worm” effect, but I still don’t much like any of the music so
far. Meanwhile, all the people seem like pretty shitty human beings,
cheating on their SOs and always working to be the center of attention.
The music is catching on with iTunes, though, which is more than can be
said of most TV series.

>
> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

>Not me personally, but this just in from Ob Veeus:

>Other stuff I watched this week:
>ALASKA DAILY: The latest episode which shows that none of the reporters
>care about crimes getting solved in ways that get people arrested.
>Instead, getting the story in the paper is more important than getting it
>to the police so they spend their time breaking laws and threatening people
>with blackmail and such just so they can prove that the police can't do
>their job. Also, there was some confusing dialog such as "many Alaskan
>villages don't have any cops, just a village police officer". Huh?

I had no idea I wasn't the only one trying to finish this dreck, so I'd
stopped commenting on Usenet.

The one thing I sort of liked about the episode is that they finally got
back to the main story after largely ignoring it for two weeks. What
pissed me off was the "spreadsheet" (that was a database, you idiot)
they hired interns to perform data entry to create, about all the
disappeared or murdered indiginous women. Now, I thought they were going
to try to do something useful, like try to analyze the data for
patterns. Perhaps they could have looked for related incidents
suggesting one evil man committed crimes against multiple women.

Instead, all it could do was display locations and incidents over time
and not solve crimes.

It was also ridiculous that white women were left out of the database.
Were the evil men committing these crimes only targetting indigenous
women? That assumption is beyond stupid.

The bit about the "village police officer" was that it was simply one
local person appointed as law enforcement who received minimal training
and, we learned later, is prohibited from carrying a gun. We get a scene
in which the incredibly dedicated officer (a woman, of course) confronts
a mentally incompetent man with a shotgun who is firing at the home of a
friend who had died. Now, he's done this repeatedly. At no point does
she take the weapon away from him.

It's rather like the police constable in a small English village in the
countryside who don't carry guns either but perhaps has additional
training.

We're supposed to be infuriated at the convenient but sloppy detective
work that apparently railroaded the totally innocent boyfriend into
confessing Gloria's murder. It's just that when the reporters
encountered him several episodes back, he was uncooperative and lied. It
doesn't work.

Eileen gets a big offer to return to New York and redeem herself after
the horrible "cancelling". The plot about the corrupt general and
misappropriation of monies from weapons sales has been dropped entirely.

The weak-willed younger reporter is encouraged by "the woman who loves
him" to confront his ex wife and insist that she honor their shared
child-custody agreement. There was a head scratcher about her demand to
take their children with her to Chicago to avoid crime.

In article <tvpsdp$2p6vd$1@dont-email.me>,
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >Not me personally, but this just in from Ob Veeus:
>
> >Other stuff I watched this week:
>
> >ALASKA DAILY: The latest episode which shows that none of the reporters
> >care about crimes getting solved in ways that get people arrested.
> >Instead, getting the story in the paper is more important than getting it
> >to the police so they spend their time breaking laws and threatening people
> >with blackmail and such just so they can prove that the police can't do
> >their job. Also, there was some confusing dialog such as "many Alaskan
> >villages don't have any cops, just a village police officer". Huh?
>
> I had no idea I wasn't the only one trying to finish this dreck, so I'd
> stopped commenting on Usenet.
>
> The one thing I sort of liked about the episode is that they finally got
> back to the main story after largely ignoring it for two weeks. What
> pissed me off was the "spreadsheet" (that was a database, you idiot)
> they hired interns to perform data entry to create, about all the
> disappeared or murdered indiginous women. Now, I thought they were going
> to try to do something useful, like try to analyze the data for
> patterns. Perhaps they could have looked for related incidents
> suggesting one evil man committed crimes against multiple women.
>
> Instead, all it could do was display locations and incidents over time
> and not solve crimes.

But it was sooooooo dramatic as the entire cast stood around and
solemnly watched each incident appear on the map in slow motion. That's
all that matters. Drama!

> The weak-willed younger reporter is encouraged by "the woman who loves
> him" to confront his ex wife and insist that she honor their shared
> child-custody agreement. There was a head scratcher about her demand to
> take their children with her to Chicago to avoid crime.

LOL! Yeah, no shit. I about fell off my chair at that line. The writer
had to be trolling with that bit of the script.

Let's leave rural Alaska and jump right into the middle of biggest crime
pit in the nation to get away from crime. Why not just go all the way
and move to Mogadishu?

On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 16:38:18 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>Not me personally, but this just in from Ob Veeus:
>
>>Other stuff I watched this week:
>
>>ALASKA DAILY: The latest episode which shows that none of the reporters
>>care about crimes getting solved in ways that get people arrested.
>>Instead, getting the story in the paper is more important than getting it
>>to the police so they spend their time breaking laws and threatening people
>>with blackmail and such just so they can prove that the police can't do
>>their job. Also, there was some confusing dialog such as "many Alaskan
>>villages don't have any cops, just a village police officer". Huh?
>
>I had no idea I wasn't the only one trying to finish this dreck, so I'd
>stopped commenting on Usenet.
>
>The one thing I sort of liked about the episode is that they finally got
>back to the main story after largely ignoring it for two weeks. What
>pissed me off was the "spreadsheet" (that was a database, you idiot)
>they hired interns to perform data entry to create, about all the
>disappeared or murdered indiginous women. Now, I thought they were going
>to try to do something useful, like try to analyze the data for
>patterns. Perhaps they could have looked for related incidents
>suggesting one evil man committed crimes against multiple women.
>
>Instead, all it could do was display locations and incidents over time
>and not solve crimes.

Agreed. I was left trying to figure out why they bothered making that
display. Only reason I can think that they put the time into it was to
give a visual message of the situation to the viewers.

>It was also ridiculous that white women were left out of the database.
>Were the evil men committing these crimes only targetting indigenous
>women? That assumption is beyond stupid.
>

That's been the assumption since the beginning that when a white woman
goes missing the cops come out in force to figure out what happened
but don't do the same when it's an indigenous woman.

>The bit about the "village police officer" was that it was simply one
>local person appointed as law enforcement who received minimal training
>and, we learned later, is prohibited from carrying a gun. We get a scene
>in which the incredibly dedicated officer (a woman, of course) confronts
>a mentally incompetent man with a shotgun who is firing at the home of a
>friend who had died. Now, he's done this repeatedly. At no point does
>she take the weapon away from him.
>
>It's rather like the police constable in a small English village in the
>countryside who don't carry guns either but perhaps has additional
>training.
>
>We're supposed to be infuriated at the convenient but sloppy detective
>work that apparently railroaded the totally innocent boyfriend into
>confessing Gloria's murder. It's just that when the reporters
>encountered him several episodes back, he was uncooperative and lied. It
>doesn't work.

I'm confused as to why it doesn't work as it makes sense to me that a
detective that would interrogate the boyfriend for hours without a
break and without a video recording being made would also be
uncooperative to reporters investigating the case.

>Eileen gets a big offer to return to New York and redeem herself after
>the horrible "cancelling". The plot about the corrupt general and
>misappropriation of monies from weapons sales has been dropped entirely.

Don't forget that Roz also gets an offer to head off to the Washington
Post that she's considering. It does seem like Eileen has completely
dropped that corrupt general story as she's gotten caught up in the
local Alaska stories.

>The weak-willed younger reporter is encouraged by "the woman who loves
>him" to confront his ex wife and insist that she honor their shared
>child-custody agreement. There was a head scratcher about her demand to
>take their children with her to Chicago to avoid crime.

Yes, that was an obvious issue with her argument but given that there
was the attempted shooting just days ago at the paper I could see her
throwing that up even though the argument doesn't make sense. People
do that all the time when caught up in the middle of an argument.

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>Sun, 26 Mar 2023 16:38:18 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

>>>Not me personally, but this just in from Ob Veeus:

>>>Other stuff I watched this week:

>>>ALASKA DAILY: The latest episode which shows that none of the reporters
>>>care about crimes getting solved in ways that get people arrested.
>>>Instead, getting the story in the paper is more important than getting it
>>>to the police so they spend their time breaking laws and threatening people
>>>with blackmail and such just so they can prove that the police can't do
>>>their job. Also, there was some confusing dialog such as "many Alaskan
>>>villages don't have any cops, just a village police officer". Huh?

>>I had no idea I wasn't the only one trying to finish this dreck, so I'd
>>stopped commenting on Usenet.

>>The one thing I sort of liked about the episode is that they finally got
>>back to the main story after largely ignoring it for two weeks. What
>>pissed me off was the "spreadsheet" (that was a database, you idiot)
>>they hired interns to perform data entry to create, about all the
>>disappeared or murdered indiginous women. Now, I thought they were going
>>to try to do something useful, like try to analyze the data for
>>patterns. Perhaps they could have looked for related incidents
>>suggesting one evil man committed crimes against multiple women.

>>Instead, all it could do was display locations and incidents over time
>>and not solve crimes.

>Agreed. I was left trying to figure out why they bothered making that
>display. Only reason I can think that they put the time into it was to
>give a visual message of the situation to the viewers.

>>It was also ridiculous that white women were left out of the database.
>>Were the evil men committing these crimes only targetting indigenous
>>women? That assumption is beyond stupid.

>That's been the assumption since the beginning that when a white woman
>goes missing the cops come out in force to figure out what happened
>but don't do the same when it's an indigenous woman.

I know shawn. They've been shoving the politics of this down the
viewers' throat all season long. The point I'm making should be entirely
obvious, that to the extent these missing women were not taken by their
boyfriends or husbands, these were crimes of opportunity and the
attacker won't give a shit about who the woman is, just that there are
no witnesses. If the same man attacked multiple women, some will
undoubtably be native and some white.

You think there were no unsolved crimes with regard to white women?
Nonsense.

>>The bit about the "village police officer" was that it was simply one
>>local person appointed as law enforcement who received minimal training
>>and, we learned later, is prohibited from carrying a gun. We get a scene
>>in which the incredibly dedicated officer (a woman, of course) confronts
>>a mentally incompetent man with a shotgun who is firing at the home of a
>>friend who had died. Now, he's done this repeatedly. At no point does
>>she take the weapon away from him.

>>It's rather like the police constable in a small English village in the
>>countryside who don't carry guns either but perhaps has additional
>>training.

>>We're supposed to be infuriated at the convenient but sloppy detective
>>work that apparently railroaded the totally innocent boyfriend into
>>confessing Gloria's murder. It's just that when the reporters
>>encountered him several episodes back, he was uncooperative and lied. It
>>doesn't work.

>I'm confused as to why it doesn't work as it makes sense to me that a
>detective that would interrogate the boyfriend for hours without a
>break and without a video recording being made would also be
>uncooperative to reporters investigating the case.

Did it make you feel sympathetic that the boyfriend became the prime
suspect because he withheld critical information and lied? That the
audience was supposed to feel sympathy for him that he was NOW being
railroaded didn't work.

He was an uncaring asshole with regard to what had become of Gloria.

>>Eileen gets a big offer to return to New York and redeem herself after
>>the horrible "cancelling". The plot about the corrupt general and
>>misappropriation of monies from weapons sales has been dropped entirely.

>Don't forget that Roz also gets an offer to head off to the Washington
>Post that she's considering.

I wanted to forget, it was so stupid.

>It does seem like Eileen has completely dropped that corrupt general
>story as she's gotten caught up in the local Alaska stories.

Like you've been saying about other series: There's a different set of
writers completely unfamiliar with previous episodes!

>>. . .

On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 17:59:51 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>Sun, 26 Mar 2023 16:38:18 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>>anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>>Not me personally, but this just in from Ob Veeus:
>
>>>>Other stuff I watched this week:
>
>>>>ALASKA DAILY: The latest episode which shows that none of the reporters
>>>>care about crimes getting solved in ways that get people arrested.
>>>>Instead, getting the story in the paper is more important than getting it
>>>>to the police so they spend their time breaking laws and threatening people
>>>>with blackmail and such just so they can prove that the police can't do
>>>>their job. Also, there was some confusing dialog such as "many Alaskan
>>>>villages don't have any cops, just a village police officer". Huh?
>

>>>It was also ridiculous that white women were left out of the database.
>>>Were the evil men committing these crimes only targetting indigenous
>>>women? That assumption is beyond stupid.
>
>>That's been the assumption since the beginning that when a white woman
>>goes missing the cops come out in force to figure out what happened
>>but don't do the same when it's an indigenous woman.
>
>I know shawn. They've been shoving the politics of this down the
>viewers' throat all season long. The point I'm making should be entirely
>obvious, that to the extent these missing women were not taken by their
>boyfriends or husbands, these were crimes of opportunity and the
>attacker won't give a shit about who the woman is, just that there are
>no witnesses. If the same man attacked multiple women, some will
>undoubtably be native and some white.
>
>You think there were no unsolved crimes with regard to white women?
>Nonsense.

Yes, there will be some unsolved crimes with regard to white women.
No, there's no reason to assume that this guy or many (not all) of the
guys doing these crimes would be going after any white women given the
situation. Anyone paying attention could see that taking an indigenous
woman results in little fanfare and an assumption that the woman left
of her own accord because the cops keep saying so. When a white woman
goes missing out come the organized search parties and the helicopters
so any criminal taking a white woman is much more likely to get
arrested than one taking an indigenous woman.

So even if they spent time finding out what women went missing that
were never found that would not fit the message the show is trying to
beat us over the head with because there wouldn't be many. It would
also draw attention away from what the people in the show were trying
to draw attention to, the plight of missing indigenous women. I'm sure
they care about all women but the point of the research was what
happens when an indigenous woman goes missing. I suppose if they had
more time they could make up a similar chart for white women and show
just how different the situation is in regards to how many go missing
and then are found.

>>>The bit about the "village police officer" was that it was simply one
>>>local person appointed as law enforcement who received minimal training
>>>and, we learned later, is prohibited from carrying a gun. We get a scene
>>>in which the incredibly dedicated officer (a woman, of course) confronts
>>>a mentally incompetent man with a shotgun who is firing at the home of a
>>>friend who had died. Now, he's done this repeatedly. At no point does
>>>she take the weapon away from him.
>
>>>It's rather like the police constable in a small English village in the
>>>countryside who don't carry guns either but perhaps has additional
>>>training.
>
>>>We're supposed to be infuriated at the convenient but sloppy detective
>>>work that apparently railroaded the totally innocent boyfriend into
>>>confessing Gloria's murder. It's just that when the reporters
>>>encountered him several episodes back, he was uncooperative and lied. It
>>>doesn't work.
>
>>I'm confused as to why it doesn't work as it makes sense to me that a
>>detective that would interrogate the boyfriend for hours without a
>>break and without a video recording being made would also be
>>uncooperative to reporters investigating the case.
>
>Did it make you feel sympathetic that the boyfriend became the prime
>suspect because he withheld critical information and lied? That the
>audience was supposed to feel sympathy for him that he was NOW being
>railroaded didn't work.

No, it didn't but then I often feel that way with other criminals.
Doesn't mean I want to see them treated unfairly by the legal system.
That's the way to justify doing what ever it takes, legal or illegal,
to get a guy convicted on this crime because you know he's a long term
criminal.

>He was an uncaring asshole with regard to what had become of Gloria.

Yes, he was, but that doesn't justify what the legal system is doing.

>>>Eileen gets a big offer to return to New York and redeem herself after
>>>the horrible "cancelling". The plot about the corrupt general and
>>>misappropriation of monies from weapons sales has been dropped entirely.
>
>>Don't forget that Roz also gets an offer to head off to the Washington
>>Post that she's considering.
>
>I wanted to forget, it was so stupid.

If this was so hot that it justified offers from big papers to both
writers you would think it would be at least as big locally. Instead
they would have us believe that only a few thousand people are
clicking on the articles in Alaska and yet it's got the biggest papers
in the nation hot to hire the writers? Explain that logic to me
because I can't make it make sense.

>>It does seem like Eileen has completely dropped that corrupt general
>>story as she's gotten caught up in the local Alaska stories.
>
>Like you've been saying about other series: There's a different set of
>writers completely unfamiliar with previous episodes!
>
>>>. . .

To the point that this writer couldn't even remember what the issue
was but did remember there was one. So no one actually mentioned the
details of why Eileen was banished to Alaska. Wasn't there some local
connection to the corrupt general that she was investigating earlier
in the show? Did they ever explain why they dropped that or was it
just forgotten when their writer #1 left the show (I'm making an
assumption as to what happened and not wanting to confuse writer #1s.)

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 16:38:18 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Not me personally, but this just in from Ob Veeus:
>>
>>> Other stuff I watched this week:
>>
>>> ALASKA DAILY: The latest episode which shows that none of the reporters
>>> care about crimes getting solved in ways that get people arrested.
>>> Instead, getting the story in the paper is more important than getting it
>>> to the police so they spend their time breaking laws and threatening people
>>> with blackmail and such just so they can prove that the police can't do
>>> their job. Also, there was some confusing dialog such as "many Alaskan
>>> villages don't have any cops, just a village police officer". Huh?
>>
>> I had no idea I wasn't the only one trying to finish this dreck, so I'd
>> stopped commenting on Usenet.
>>
>> The one thing I sort of liked about the episode is that they finally got
>> back to the main story after largely ignoring it for two weeks. What
>> pissed me off was the "spreadsheet" (that was a database, you idiot)
>> they hired interns to perform data entry to create, about all the
>> disappeared or murdered indiginous women. Now, I thought they were going
>> to try to do something useful, like try to analyze the data for
>> patterns. Perhaps they could have looked for related incidents
>> suggesting one evil man committed crimes against multiple women.
>>
>> Instead, all it could do was display locations and incidents over time
>> and not solve crimes.
>
> Agreed. I was left trying to figure out why they bothered making that
> display. Only reason I can think that they put the time into it was to
> give a visual message of the situation to the viewers.
>
>> It was also ridiculous that white women were left out of the database.
>> Were the evil men committing these crimes only targetting indigenous
>> women? That assumption is beyond stupid.
>>
>
> That's been the assumption since the beginning that when a white woman
> goes missing the cops come out in force to figure out what happened
> but don't do the same when it's an indigenous woman.

And the cases they chose to compare and contrast to illustrate this were a
brown woman who’s been missing for a while, and they looked and found
nothing, and the case had gone cold, and a white woman who had fallen off
of a cruise ship, literally moments before and they knew they had three
hours or something before she died from the freezing water. And they were
all upset that people were scrambling to save the drowning white woman and
not to find the brown woman.

Because racism.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>Sun, 26 Mar 2023 17:59:51 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>Sun, 26 Mar 2023 16:38:18 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>:

>>>>. . .

>>>>We're supposed to be infuriated at the convenient but sloppy detective
>>>>work that apparently railroaded the totally innocent boyfriend into
>>>>confessing Gloria's murder. It's just that when the reporters
>>>>encountered him several episodes back, he was uncooperative and lied. It
>>>>doesn't work.

>>>I'm confused as to why it doesn't work as it makes sense to me that a
>>>detective that would interrogate the boyfriend for hours without a
>>>break and without a video recording being made would also be
>>>uncooperative to reporters investigating the case.

>>Did it make you feel sympathetic that the boyfriend became the prime
>>suspect because he withheld critical information and lied? That the
>>audience was supposed to feel sympathy for him that he was NOW being
>>railroaded didn't work.

>No, it didn't but then I often feel that way with other criminals.
>Doesn't mean I want to see them treated unfairly by the legal system.
>That's the way to justify doing what ever it takes, legal or illegal,
>to get a guy convicted on this crime because you know he's a long term
>criminal.

I don't recall what crimes he'd committed in the backstory.

>>He was an uncaring asshole with regard to what had become of Gloria.

>Yes, he was, but that doesn't justify what the legal system is doing.

He turned himself into the prime suspect. That's why they went after him
so hard.

>>>>. . .

>>>It does seem like Eileen has completely dropped that corrupt general
>>>story as she's gotten caught up in the local Alaska stories.

>>Like you've been saying about other series: There's a different set of
>>writers completely unfamiliar with previous episodes!

>To the point that this writer couldn't even remember what the issue
>was but did remember there was one. So no one actually mentioned the
>details of why Eileen was banished to Alaska. Wasn't there some local
>connection to the corrupt general that she was investigating earlier
>in the show? Did they ever explain why they dropped that or was it
>just forgotten when their writer #1 left the show (I'm making an
>assumption as to what happened and not wanting to confuse writer #1s.)

I thought the stalker was part of the story about the general but it
turned out not. Yeah, there was something else in the first or second
episode; I just don't recall.