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 by: BTR1701 - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 14:47 UTC

This headline belongs in a museum.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0

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 by: moviePig - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 14:57 UTC

On 3/26/2023 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> This headline belongs in a museum.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0

Well, a time-capsule maybe.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 15:38 UTC

BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>This headline belongs in a museum.

>https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0

Future generations are never going to stop pointing and laughing at us,
are they.

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 by: Rhino - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 15:52 UTC

On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> This headline belongs in a museum.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0

That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my archive :-)

By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned men who
"identify" as women in the sports that they organize?

I'm abysmally ignorant of sports and have never heard of them so I have
no idea how influential they are but I hope they are big or at least
influential so that other sports organizations will be motivated to
follow their lead. Often, it only takes one brave soul/group to take a
stand for sensible behaviour to inspire the rest to follow suit.

--
Rhino

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 by: trotsky - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 15:53 UTC

On 3/26/23 9:57 AM, moviePig wrote:
> On 3/26/2023 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>
> Well, a time-capsule maybe.

It belongs where it is, the shitposting Murdoch owned NY Post. NY
Shitpost would be a much better name.

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 by: trotsky - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 15:55 UTC

On 3/26/23 10:38 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>
> Future generations are never going to stop pointing and laughing at us,
> are they.

No doubt, because what the right wing finds, I don't know, queer will be
accepted and commonplace in a couple of years. You two should get a
room and see who can outstupid the other.

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 by: Dimensional Traveler - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 16:01 UTC

On 3/26/2023 8:38 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>
> Future generations are never going to stop pointing and laughing at us,
> are they.

What made you think that was ever a possibility?

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

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 by: BTR1701 - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 17:19 UTC

In article <tvppn6$2n0vn$3@dont-email.me>,
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

> On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

> > This headline belongs in a museum.
> >
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>
> That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my archive :-)
>
> By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned men who
> "identify" as women in the sports that they organize?

Some signs of sanity in the wilderness.

> I'm abysmally ignorant of sports and have never heard of them so I have
> no idea how influential they are but I hope they are big or at least
> influential so that other sports organizations will be motivated to
> follow their lead. Often, it only takes one brave soul/group to take a
> stand for sensible behaviour to inspire the rest to follow suit.

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 by: moviePig - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 18:28 UTC

On 3/26/2023 1:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <tvppn6$2n0vn$3@dont-email.me>,
> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>
>>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>>
>> That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my archive :-)
>>
>> By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned men who
>> "identify" as women in the sports that they organize?
>
> Some signs of sanity in the wilderness.
> ...

Will they demand proof of "identification"?

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 by: trotsky - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:26 UTC

On 3/26/23 1:28 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 3/26/2023 1:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <tvppn6$2n0vn$3@dont-email.me>,
>>   Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>
>>>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>>>
>>> That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my archive :-)
>>>
>>> By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned men who
>>> "identify" as women in the sports that they organize?
>>
>> Some signs of sanity in the wilderness.
>> ...
>
> Will they demand proof of "identification"?

We've seen this movie before. There was a time when blacks weren't
allowed to compete. Then they dominated. Society moves forward. White
supremacist fucking assholes try not to. Honest to Christ, I don't know
how you can give this eunuch'd fucking dipshit the time of day. It's
the same horseshit from the loser over and over and over and over again.

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 by: moviePig - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 16:10 UTC

On 3/27/2023 4:26 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 3/26/23 1:28 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 3/26/2023 1:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <tvppn6$2n0vn$3@dont-email.me>,
>>>   Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>
>>>>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>>>>
>>>> That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my archive :-)
>>>>
>>>> By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned men who
>>>> "identify" as women in the sports that they organize?
>>>
>>> Some signs of sanity in the wilderness.
>>> ...
>>
>> Will they demand proof of "identification"?
>
>
> We've seen this movie before.  There was a time when blacks weren't
> allowed to compete.  Then they dominated.  Society moves forward.  White
> supremacist fucking assholes try not to.  Honest to Christ, I don't know
> how you can give this eunuch'd fucking dipshit the time of day.  It's
> the same horseshit from the loser over and over and over and over again.

Well, I keep hoping scales will fall from some eyes and it'll be
recognized that the separation of women's competition from men's is,
after all, merely a traditional, economically entrenched one -- which
may be fine, as it seems overall to better society. Trouble arises only
when each of the various camps invokes God's courtroom as its personal
backer. Holy wars are like the China Syndrome...

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 by: trotsky - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 22:34 UTC

On 3/27/23 11:10 AM, moviePig wrote:
> On 3/27/2023 4:26 AM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 3/26/23 1:28 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 3/26/2023 1:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <tvppn6$2n0vn$3@dont-email.me>,
>>>>   Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>>>>>
>>>>> That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my archive :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned men who
>>>>> "identify" as women in the sports that they organize?
>>>>
>>>> Some signs of sanity in the wilderness.
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> Will they demand proof of "identification"?
>>
>>
>> We've seen this movie before.  There was a time when blacks weren't
>> allowed to compete.  Then they dominated.  Society moves forward.
>> White supremacist fucking assholes try not to.  Honest to Christ, I
>> don't know how you can give this eunuch'd fucking dipshit the time of
>> day.  It's the same horseshit from the loser over and over and over
>> and over again.
>
> Well, I keep hoping scales will fall from some eyes and it'll be
> recognized that the separation of women's competition from men's is,
> after all, merely a traditional, economically entrenched one -- which
> may be fine, as it seems overall to better society.  Trouble arises only
> when each of the various camps invokes God's courtroom as its personal
> backer.  Holy wars are like the China Syndrome...

If women and men competed in the same event the highest ranking man
would be the male winner and the highest female would be the female
winner. It doesn't matter. This distinction could still be made in
team sports too.

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 by: moviePig - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 23:01 UTC

On 3/27/2023 6:34 PM, trotsky wrote:
> On 3/27/23 11:10 AM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 3/27/2023 4:26 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 3/26/23 1:28 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 3/26/2023 1:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <tvppn6$2n0vn$3@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>   Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my archive :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned men who
>>>>>> "identify" as women in the sports that they organize?
>>>>>
>>>>> Some signs of sanity in the wilderness.
>>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Will they demand proof of "identification"?
>>>
>>>
>>> We've seen this movie before.  There was a time when blacks weren't
>>> allowed to compete.  Then they dominated.  Society moves forward.
>>> White supremacist fucking assholes try not to.  Honest to Christ, I
>>> don't know how you can give this eunuch'd fucking dipshit the time of
>>> day.  It's the same horseshit from the loser over and over and over
>>> and over again.
>>
>> Well, I keep hoping scales will fall from some eyes and it'll be
>> recognized that the separation of women's competition from men's is,
>> after all, merely a traditional, economically entrenched one -- which
>> may be fine, as it seems overall to better society.  Trouble arises
>> only when each of the various camps invokes God's courtroom as its
>> personal backer.  Holy wars are like the China Syndrome...
>
>
> If women and men competed in the same event the highest ranking man
> would be the male winner and the highest female would be the female
> winner.  It doesn't matter.  This distinction could still be made in
> team sports too.

We Americans like "winners" much more than "qualified winners".

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 by: trotsky - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 23:18 UTC

On 3/27/23 6:01 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 3/27/2023 6:34 PM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 3/27/23 11:10 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 3/27/2023 4:26 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>> On 3/26/23 1:28 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>> On 3/26/2023 1:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <tvppn6$2n0vn$3@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>   Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my archive :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned men who
>>>>>>> "identify" as women in the sports that they organize?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some signs of sanity in the wilderness.
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Will they demand proof of "identification"?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We've seen this movie before.  There was a time when blacks weren't
>>>> allowed to compete.  Then they dominated.  Society moves forward.
>>>> White supremacist fucking assholes try not to.  Honest to Christ, I
>>>> don't know how you can give this eunuch'd fucking dipshit the time
>>>> of day.  It's the same horseshit from the loser over and over and
>>>> over and over again.
>>>
>>> Well, I keep hoping scales will fall from some eyes and it'll be
>>> recognized that the separation of women's competition from men's is,
>>> after all, merely a traditional, economically entrenched one -- which
>>> may be fine, as it seems overall to better society.  Trouble arises
>>> only when each of the various camps invokes God's courtroom as its
>>> personal backer.  Holy wars are like the China Syndrome...
>>
>>
>> If women and men competed in the same event the highest ranking man
>> would be the male winner and the highest female would be the female
>> winner.  It doesn't matter.  This distinction could still be made in
>> team sports too.
>
> We Americans like "winners" much more than "qualified winners".

What the fuck happened to people? I would never presume to speak for
"Americans." "A lot of people are saying..." That's just mentally lazy
bullshit. And people do it constantly.

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 by: moviePig - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 02:18 UTC

On 3/27/2023 7:18 PM, trotsky wrote:
> On 3/27/23 6:01 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 3/27/2023 6:34 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 3/27/23 11:10 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 3/27/2023 4:26 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>> On 3/26/23 1:28 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/26/2023 1:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <tvppn6$2n0vn$3@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>   Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my archive :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned men who
>>>>>>>> "identify" as women in the sports that they organize?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some signs of sanity in the wilderness.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will they demand proof of "identification"?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We've seen this movie before.  There was a time when blacks weren't
>>>>> allowed to compete.  Then they dominated.  Society moves forward.
>>>>> White supremacist fucking assholes try not to.  Honest to Christ, I
>>>>> don't know how you can give this eunuch'd fucking dipshit the time
>>>>> of day.  It's the same horseshit from the loser over and over and
>>>>> over and over again.
>>>>
>>>> Well, I keep hoping scales will fall from some eyes and it'll be
>>>> recognized that the separation of women's competition from men's is,
>>>> after all, merely a traditional, economically entrenched one --
>>>> which may be fine, as it seems overall to better society.  Trouble
>>>> arises only when each of the various camps invokes God's courtroom
>>>> as its personal backer.  Holy wars are like the China Syndrome...
>>>
>>>
>>> If women and men competed in the same event the highest ranking man
>>> would be the male winner and the highest female would be the female
>>> winner.  It doesn't matter.  This distinction could still be made in
>>> team sports too.
>>
>> We Americans like "winners" much more than "qualified winners".
>
>
> What the fuck happened to people?  I would never presume to speak for
> "Americans."  "A lot of people are saying..."  That's just mentally lazy
> bullshit.  And people do it constantly.

No, it's a contention that Americans like winners, as well as underdogs.

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 by: Ubiquitous - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:30 UTC

no_email@invalid.invalid wrote:

> This headline belongs in a museum.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0

Obviously, he's a thirsty liar.

--
Let's go Brandon!

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On 3/27/23 9:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 3/27/2023 7:18 PM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 3/27/23 6:01 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 3/27/2023 6:34 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>> On 3/27/23 11:10 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>> On 3/27/2023 4:26 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/26/23 1:28 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/26/2023 1:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <tvppn6$2n0vn$3@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>   Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my archive
>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned men who
>>>>>>>>> "identify" as women in the sports that they organize?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some signs of sanity in the wilderness.
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will they demand proof of "identification"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We've seen this movie before.  There was a time when blacks
>>>>>> weren't allowed to compete.  Then they dominated.  Society moves
>>>>>> forward. White supremacist fucking assholes try not to.  Honest to
>>>>>> Christ, I don't know how you can give this eunuch'd fucking
>>>>>> dipshit the time of day.  It's the same horseshit from the loser
>>>>>> over and over and over and over again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I keep hoping scales will fall from some eyes and it'll be
>>>>> recognized that the separation of women's competition from men's
>>>>> is, after all, merely a traditional, economically entrenched one --
>>>>> which may be fine, as it seems overall to better society.  Trouble
>>>>> arises only when each of the various camps invokes God's courtroom
>>>>> as its personal backer.  Holy wars are like the China Syndrome...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If women and men competed in the same event the highest ranking man
>>>> would be the male winner and the highest female would be the female
>>>> winner.  It doesn't matter.  This distinction could still be made in
>>>> team sports too.
>>>
>>> We Americans like "winners" much more than "qualified winners".
>>
>>
>> What the fuck happened to people?  I would never presume to speak for
>> "Americans."  "A lot of people are saying..."  That's just mentally
>> lazy bullshit.  And people do it constantly.
>
> No, it's a contention that Americans like winners, as well as underdogs.

Okay, let's repeat it ad nauseum: how do you presume to speak for
"Americans?"

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On 3/29/2023 5:57 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 3/27/23 9:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 3/27/2023 7:18 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 3/27/23 6:01 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 3/27/2023 6:34 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>> On 3/27/23 11:10 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/27/2023 4:26 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/26/23 1:28 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/26/2023 1:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <tvppn6$2n0vn$3@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>   Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my
>>>>>>>>>> archive :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned men who
>>>>>>>>>> "identify" as women in the sports that they organize?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some signs of sanity in the wilderness.
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Will they demand proof of "identification"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We've seen this movie before.  There was a time when blacks
>>>>>>> weren't allowed to compete.  Then they dominated.  Society moves
>>>>>>> forward. White supremacist fucking assholes try not to.  Honest
>>>>>>> to Christ, I don't know how you can give this eunuch'd fucking
>>>>>>> dipshit the time of day.  It's the same horseshit from the loser
>>>>>>> over and over and over and over again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I keep hoping scales will fall from some eyes and it'll be
>>>>>> recognized that the separation of women's competition from men's
>>>>>> is, after all, merely a traditional, economically entrenched one
>>>>>> -- which may be fine, as it seems overall to better society.
>>>>>> Trouble arises only when each of the various camps invokes God's
>>>>>> courtroom as its personal backer.  Holy wars are like the China
>>>>>> Syndrome...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If women and men competed in the same event the highest ranking man
>>>>> would be the male winner and the highest female would be the female
>>>>> winner.  It doesn't matter.  This distinction could still be made
>>>>> in team sports too.
>>>>
>>>> We Americans like "winners" much more than "qualified winners".
>>>
>>>
>>> What the fuck happened to people?  I would never presume to speak for
>>> "Americans."  "A lot of people are saying..."  That's just mentally
>>> lazy bullshit.  And people do it constantly.
>>
>> No, it's a contention that Americans like winners, as well as underdogs.
>
>
> Okay, let's repeat it ad nauseum: how do you presume to speak for
> "Americans?"

I'm not speaking *for* them, but *of* them ...and with a fairly commonly
held observation, at that.

Re: Dispatches from Clown World

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On 3/29/23 10:10 AM, moviePig wrote:
> On 3/29/2023 5:57 AM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 3/27/23 9:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 3/27/2023 7:18 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>> On 3/27/23 6:01 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>> On 3/27/2023 6:34 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/27/23 11:10 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/27/2023 4:26 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/26/23 1:28 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/26/2023 1:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <tvppn6$2n0vn$3@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>   Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my
>>>>>>>>>>> archive :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned men who
>>>>>>>>>>> "identify" as women in the sports that they organize?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some signs of sanity in the wilderness.
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Will they demand proof of "identification"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We've seen this movie before.  There was a time when blacks
>>>>>>>> weren't allowed to compete.  Then they dominated.  Society moves
>>>>>>>> forward. White supremacist fucking assholes try not to.  Honest
>>>>>>>> to Christ, I don't know how you can give this eunuch'd fucking
>>>>>>>> dipshit the time of day.  It's the same horseshit from the loser
>>>>>>>> over and over and over and over again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, I keep hoping scales will fall from some eyes and it'll be
>>>>>>> recognized that the separation of women's competition from men's
>>>>>>> is, after all, merely a traditional, economically entrenched one
>>>>>>> -- which may be fine, as it seems overall to better society.
>>>>>>> Trouble arises only when each of the various camps invokes God's
>>>>>>> courtroom as its personal backer.  Holy wars are like the China
>>>>>>> Syndrome...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If women and men competed in the same event the highest ranking
>>>>>> man would be the male winner and the highest female would be the
>>>>>> female winner.  It doesn't matter.  This distinction could still
>>>>>> be made in team sports too.
>>>>>
>>>>> We Americans like "winners" much more than "qualified winners".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What the fuck happened to people?  I would never presume to speak
>>>> for "Americans."  "A lot of people are saying..."  That's just
>>>> mentally lazy bullshit.  And people do it constantly.
>>>
>>> No, it's a contention that Americans like winners, as well as underdogs.
>>
>>
>> Okay, let's repeat it ad nauseum: how do you presume to speak for
>> "Americans?"
>
> I'm not speaking *for* them, but *of* them ...and with a fairly commonly
> held observation, at that.

Oh, is that what this is about, you forgot to provide a cite? Methinks
you're lying unfortunately.

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On 3/29/2023 6:48 PM, trotsky wrote:
> On 3/29/23 10:10 AM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 3/29/2023 5:57 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 3/27/23 9:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 3/27/2023 7:18 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>> On 3/27/23 6:01 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/27/2023 6:34 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/27/23 11:10 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/27/2023 4:26 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/26/23 1:28 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/26/2023 1:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <tvppn6$2n0vn$3@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>   Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my
>>>>>>>>>>>> archive :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned men
>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>> "identify" as women in the sports that they organize?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Some signs of sanity in the wilderness.
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Will they demand proof of "identification"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We've seen this movie before.  There was a time when blacks
>>>>>>>>> weren't allowed to compete.  Then they dominated.  Society
>>>>>>>>> moves forward. White supremacist fucking assholes try not to.
>>>>>>>>> Honest to Christ, I don't know how you can give this eunuch'd
>>>>>>>>> fucking dipshit the time of day.  It's the same horseshit from
>>>>>>>>> the loser over and over and over and over again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, I keep hoping scales will fall from some eyes and it'll be
>>>>>>>> recognized that the separation of women's competition from men's
>>>>>>>> is, after all, merely a traditional, economically entrenched one
>>>>>>>> -- which may be fine, as it seems overall to better society.
>>>>>>>> Trouble arises only when each of the various camps invokes God's
>>>>>>>> courtroom as its personal backer.  Holy wars are like the China
>>>>>>>> Syndrome...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If women and men competed in the same event the highest ranking
>>>>>>> man would be the male winner and the highest female would be the
>>>>>>> female winner.  It doesn't matter.  This distinction could still
>>>>>>> be made in team sports too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We Americans like "winners" much more than "qualified winners".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What the fuck happened to people?  I would never presume to speak
>>>>> for "Americans."  "A lot of people are saying..."  That's just
>>>>> mentally lazy bullshit.  And people do it constantly.
>>>>
>>>> No, it's a contention that Americans like winners, as well as
>>>> underdogs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, let's repeat it ad nauseum: how do you presume to speak for
>>> "Americans?"
>>
>> I'm not speaking *for* them, but *of* them ...and with a fairly
>> commonly held observation, at that.
>
>
> Oh, is that what this is about, you forgot to provide a cite?  Methinks
> you're lying unfortunately.

You think it's doubtful, or even controversial, that Americans like
underdogs and winners? I thought it was accepted understanding -- so
much so that I'd be surprised to learn there'd even been studies...

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On 3/29/23 6:03 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 3/29/2023 6:48 PM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 3/29/23 10:10 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 3/29/2023 5:57 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>> On 3/27/23 9:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>> On 3/27/2023 7:18 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/27/23 6:01 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/27/2023 6:34 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/27/23 11:10 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/2023 4:26 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/26/23 1:28 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/26/2023 1:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <tvppn6$2n0vn$3@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>   Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> archive :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned
>>>>>>>>>>>>> men who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "identify" as women in the sports that they organize?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some signs of sanity in the wilderness.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Will they demand proof of "identification"?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We've seen this movie before.  There was a time when blacks
>>>>>>>>>> weren't allowed to compete.  Then they dominated.  Society
>>>>>>>>>> moves forward. White supremacist fucking assholes try not to.
>>>>>>>>>> Honest to Christ, I don't know how you can give this eunuch'd
>>>>>>>>>> fucking dipshit the time of day.  It's the same horseshit from
>>>>>>>>>> the loser over and over and over and over again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, I keep hoping scales will fall from some eyes and it'll
>>>>>>>>> be recognized that the separation of women's competition from
>>>>>>>>> men's is, after all, merely a traditional, economically
>>>>>>>>> entrenched one -- which may be fine, as it seems overall to
>>>>>>>>> better society. Trouble arises only when each of the various
>>>>>>>>> camps invokes God's courtroom as its personal backer.  Holy
>>>>>>>>> wars are like the China Syndrome...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If women and men competed in the same event the highest ranking
>>>>>>>> man would be the male winner and the highest female would be the
>>>>>>>> female winner.  It doesn't matter.  This distinction could still
>>>>>>>> be made in team sports too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We Americans like "winners" much more than "qualified winners".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What the fuck happened to people?  I would never presume to speak
>>>>>> for "Americans."  "A lot of people are saying..."  That's just
>>>>>> mentally lazy bullshit.  And people do it constantly.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it's a contention that Americans like winners, as well as
>>>>> underdogs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Okay, let's repeat it ad nauseum: how do you presume to speak for
>>>> "Americans?"
>>>
>>> I'm not speaking *for* them, but *of* them ...and with a fairly
>>> commonly held observation, at that.
>>
>>
>> Oh, is that what this is about, you forgot to provide a cite?
>> Methinks you're lying unfortunately.
>
> You think it's doubtful, or even controversial, that Americans like
> underdogs and winners?  I thought it was accepted understanding -- so
> much so that I'd be surprised to learn there'd even been studies...

No, that part wasn't bad so much as the platitude of speaking for "we
Americans." That's the only part I was calling out really. It's waaay
too much like the Trumpism "a lot of people are saying..." which
translates to "warning, impending pile of bullshit."

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 by: moviePig - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 15:44 UTC

On 3/30/2023 5:20 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 3/29/23 6:03 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 3/29/2023 6:48 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 3/29/23 10:10 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 3/29/2023 5:57 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>> On 3/27/23 9:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/27/2023 7:18 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/27/23 6:01 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/27/2023 6:34 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/23 11:10 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/2023 4:26 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/26/23 1:28 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/26/2023 1:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <tvppn6$2n0vn$3@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-03-26 10:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This headline belongs in a museum.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v6yeef445sq3w9/SobbingDudeGirl.jpg?dl=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That headline was so good, I downloaded it to add to my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> archive :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By the way, did you hear that World Athletics has banned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> men who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "identify" as women in the sports that they organize?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some signs of sanity in the wilderness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Will they demand proof of "identification"?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We've seen this movie before.  There was a time when blacks
>>>>>>>>>>> weren't allowed to compete.  Then they dominated.  Society
>>>>>>>>>>> moves forward. White supremacist fucking assholes try not to.
>>>>>>>>>>> Honest to Christ, I don't know how you can give this eunuch'd
>>>>>>>>>>> fucking dipshit the time of day.  It's the same horseshit
>>>>>>>>>>> from the loser over and over and over and over again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, I keep hoping scales will fall from some eyes and it'll
>>>>>>>>>> be recognized that the separation of women's competition from
>>>>>>>>>> men's is, after all, merely a traditional, economically
>>>>>>>>>> entrenched one -- which may be fine, as it seems overall to
>>>>>>>>>> better society. Trouble arises only when each of the various
>>>>>>>>>> camps invokes God's courtroom as its personal backer.  Holy
>>>>>>>>>> wars are like the China Syndrome...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If women and men competed in the same event the highest ranking
>>>>>>>>> man would be the male winner and the highest female would be
>>>>>>>>> the female winner.  It doesn't matter.  This distinction could
>>>>>>>>> still be made in team sports too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We Americans like "winners" much more than "qualified winners".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What the fuck happened to people?  I would never presume to speak
>>>>>>> for "Americans."  "A lot of people are saying..."  That's just
>>>>>>> mentally lazy bullshit.  And people do it constantly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it's a contention that Americans like winners, as well as
>>>>>> underdogs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, let's repeat it ad nauseum: how do you presume to speak for
>>>>> "Americans?"
>>>>
>>>> I'm not speaking *for* them, but *of* them ...and with a fairly
>>>> commonly held observation, at that.
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, is that what this is about, you forgot to provide a cite?
>>> Methinks you're lying unfortunately.
>>
>> You think it's doubtful, or even controversial, that Americans like
>> underdogs and winners?  I thought it was accepted understanding -- so
>> much so that I'd be surprised to learn there'd even been studies...
>
>
> No, that part wasn't bad so much as the platitude of speaking for "we
> Americans."  That's the only part I was calling out really.  It's waaay
> too much like the Trumpism "a lot of people are saying..." which
> translates to "warning, impending pile of bullshit."

Would you similarly object if I'd said, "We Americans like our guns."?

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