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* CHAPPELLE SHOW on ReparationsBTR1701
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nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 20:57:05 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> MDuPree@theworld.com (Micky DuPree) explatorated:
>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> writes:

>>>> So how many people who supposedly are white are going to be looking
>>>> into their ancestors to show they are derived from Slave stock and
>>>> hence deserving of their share of this money.
>>>
>>> If you've managed to pass for white all your life, then you've managed
>>> to duck out of the problem.
>>
>>So reparations will literally be doled out based on melanin levels in
>>the skin in the World According to DuPree.
>>
>>Jeezus wept...
>
>You have to admit there's a problem when someone like Bill Cosby would
>be eligible for some of the money that's being talked about being
>given to those whose ancestors were slaves. As would other people like
>Barack Obama or Oprah Winfrey.

Dear Ruler didn't have ancestors who were slaves.

--
Let's go Brandon!

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shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 20:57:05 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <tuooaj$7tu$1@pcls7.std.com>,
>> MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply (Micky DuPree) wrote:
>>
>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> So how many people who supposedly are white are going to be looking
>>>> into their ancestors to show they are derived from Slave stock and
>>>> hence deserving of their share of this money.
>>>
>>> If you've managed to pass for white all your life, then you've managed
>>> to duck out of the problem.
>>
>> So reparations will literally be doled out based on melanin levels in
>> the skin in the World According to DuPree.
>>
>> Jeezus wept...
>
> You have to admit there's a problem when someone like Bill Cosby would
> be eligible for some of the money that's being talked about being
> given to those whose ancestors were slaves. As would other people like
> Barack Obama or Oprah Winfrey.

The problem is the entire idea of taking money from people who never owned
slaves and giving it to people who never were slaves in the first place.

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 by: shawn - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 15:39 UTC

On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 14:55:28 +0000, BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 20:57:05 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <tuooaj$7tu$1@pcls7.std.com>,
>>> MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply (Micky DuPree) wrote:
>>>
>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> So how many people who supposedly are white are going to be looking
>>>>> into their ancestors to show they are derived from Slave stock and
>>>>> hence deserving of their share of this money.
>>>>
>>>> If you've managed to pass for white all your life, then you've managed
>>>> to duck out of the problem.
>>>
>>> So reparations will literally be doled out based on melanin levels in
>>> the skin in the World According to DuPree.
>>>
>>> Jeezus wept...
>>
>> You have to admit there's a problem when someone like Bill Cosby would
>> be eligible for some of the money that's being talked about being
>> given to those whose ancestors were slaves. As would other people like
>> Barack Obama or Oprah Winfrey.
>
>The problem is the entire idea of taking money from people who never owned
>slaves and giving it to people who never were slaves in the first place.

So they can take money from me and then give it back to me? I never
owned slaves and was never a slave (other than a wage slave) so I
should be eligible, right? ;)

As if giving African Americans any amount of money is truly going to
equal the playing field the way they claim to want. Sure, some will
put the money to good use and get themselves a good job and set their
kids up for success, but many (perhaps most) won't do that. So we will
be in the same situation in a few generations and then what? Come back
to ask for more to try and fix the situation? Or admit that a lack of
money isn't the real issue holding many of them back and maybe another
approach should be tried. Or at least put the money to better use than
just giving it out like providing better educational opportunities
that leads to real jobs so kids don't end up joining gangs or dealing
drugs.

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BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 20:57:05 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply (Micky DuPree) wrote:
>>>>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> writes:

>>>>>So how many people who supposedly are white are going to be looking
>>>>>into their ancestors to show they are derived from Slave stock and
>>>>>hence deserving of their share of this money.

>>>>If you've managed to pass for white all your life, then you've managed
>>>>to duck out of the problem.

>>>So reparations will literally be doled out based on melanin levels in
>>>the skin in the World According to DuPree.

>>>Jeezus wept...

>>You have to admit there's a problem when someone like Bill Cosby would
>>be eligible for some of the money that's being talked about being
>>given to those whose ancestors were slaves. As would other people like
>>Barack Obama or Oprah Winfrey.

>The problem is the entire idea of taking money from people who never owned
>slaves and giving it to people who never were slaves in the first place.

Sins of the father! Speaking of which, many slaves were fathered by the
owner of the plantation, which means the descendant owes reparations to
himself.

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> Adam H. Kerman
>
> My ancestors were slaves unto Pharoah in Egypt. Where are my reparations?

Both my Polish parents were shanghaied by the Germans as forced labor
during WWII and several years before my mom passed away, she got a
whole package of forms from the German government stating that she
might qualify for reparations but after wading thru the bazillions pieces
of paper that would need to be filled out (and notarized and she'd have
to appear in person at the German consulate, etc.) it worked out to...

$7.50 per month.

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 by: Ed Stasiak - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 20:14 UTC

> Adam H. Kerman
> > BTR1701
> >
> >The problem is the entire idea of taking money from people who never owned
> >slaves and giving it to people who never were slaves in the first place.
>
> Sins of the father! Speaking of which, many slaves were fathered by the
> owner of the plantation, which means the descendant owes reparations to
> himself.

And lets not forget that their ancestors were enslaved by their fellow Africans,
in fact one of the kings in West Africa sent a delegation to London to complain
about the British ending the slave trade.

“I do not think the purpose of a government is to right the past.
It cannot rewrite history. It is our purpose to be just in our time.
Once a government starts down that path, there'd be no end of
apologies and compensation demanded. I'm not sure where we
would stop in compensating. I know we'd have to go back a great
length of time in our history and look at all the injustices."

— Pierre Trudeau —

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 20:17 UTC

Ed Stasiak <edstasiak1067@gmail.com> wrote:

>>Adam H. Kerman

>>My ancestors were slaves unto Pharoah in Egypt. Where are my reparations?

>Both my Polish parents were shanghaied by the Germans as forced labor
>during WWII and several years before my mom passed away, she got a
>whole package of forms from the German government stating that she
>might qualify for reparations but after wading thru the bazillions pieces
>of paper that would need to be filled out (and notarized and she'd have
>to appear in person at the German consulate, etc.) it worked out to...

>$7.50 per month.

Ouch

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In article <0edddd10-52e6-4c63-bf92-e34ef6198e54n@googlegroups.com>, Ed
Stasiak <edstasiak1067@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Adam H. Kerman
> >
> > My ancestors were slaves unto Pharoah in Egypt. Where are my reparations?

My closest friend lost her paternal grandparents to the Nazis in one of
those camps. Her father was saved at the age of 12 by the
Kindertransport. This thing is not a joke, at least to her.

Do modern Germans born long after this atrocity owe my friend money? I
don't know. Not my deal.

> Both my Polish parents were shanghaied by the Germans as forced labor
> during WWII and several years before my mom passed away, she got a
> whole package of forms from the German government stating that she
> might qualify for reparations but after wading thru the bazillions pieces
> of paper that would need to be filled out (and notarized and she'd have
> to appear in person at the German consulate, etc.) it worked out to...
>
> $7.50 per month.

What you do is write NAZI SCUM across each and every page, and mail it
all back -- at their expense, one hopes.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 22:47 UTC

A Friend wrote:
>Ed Stasiak <edstasiak1067@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>Adam H. Kerman

>>>My ancestors were slaves unto Pharoah in Egypt. Where are my reparations?

>My closest friend lost her paternal grandparents to the Nazis in one of
>those camps. Her father was saved at the age of 12 by the
>Kindertransport. This thing is not a joke, at least to her.

I don't see how reparations can make up for murders.

>Do modern Germans born long after this atrocity owe my friend money? I
>don't know. Not my deal.

You get to express an opinion.

>>Both my Polish parents were shanghaied by the Germans as forced labor
>>during WWII and several years before my mom passed away, she got a
>>whole package of forms from the German government stating that she
>>might qualify for reparations but after wading thru the bazillions pieces
>>of paper that would need to be filled out (and notarized and she'd have
>>to appear in person at the German consulate, etc.) it worked out to...

>>$7.50 per month.

>What you do is write NAZI SCUM across each and every page, and mail it
>all back -- at their expense, one hopes.

Heh

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 by: trotsky - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 23:21 UTC

On 3/14/23 9:55 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 20:57:05 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <tuooaj$7tu$1@pcls7.std.com>,
>>> MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply (Micky DuPree) wrote:
>>>
>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> So how many people who supposedly are white are going to be looking
>>>>> into their ancestors to show they are derived from Slave stock and
>>>>> hence deserving of their share of this money.
>>>>
>>>> If you've managed to pass for white all your life, then you've managed
>>>> to duck out of the problem.
>>>
>>> So reparations will literally be doled out based on melanin levels in
>>> the skin in the World According to DuPree.
>>>
>>> Jeezus wept...
>>
>> You have to admit there's a problem when someone like Bill Cosby would
>> be eligible for some of the money that's being talked about being
>> given to those whose ancestors were slaves. As would other people like
>> Barack Obama or Oprah Winfrey.
>
> The problem is the entire idea of taking money from people who never owned
> slaves and giving it to people who never were slaves in the first place.

Are you sure the problem isn't living in a representative democracy, and
a repeated inability to come up with elected representatives that
respond to HORSESHIT such as this?

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 by: The Horny Goat - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 06:06 UTC

On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 03:05:55 +0000 (UTC),
MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply (Micky DuPree) wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> writes:
>
>> So how many people who supposedly are white are going to be looking
>> into their ancestors to show they are derived from Slave stock and
>> hence deserving of their share of this money.
>
>If you've managed to pass for white all your life, then you've managed
>to duck out of the problem.
>
>-Micky

While I'm certainly not going to be lining up for this, I am equally
well aware that there were plenty of early colonies (including where
my 7x great-grandfather settled) where a 5 year indenture to pay off
the cost of their trans-Atlantic shipment was the norm.

OBVIOUSLY I'm the wrong color skin for you and your friends to qualify
as 'descendents for former slaves" even though it's factually true.

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On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 00:39:37 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

>>So reparations will literally be doled out based on melanin levels in
>>the skin in the World According to DuPree.
>>
>>Jeezus wept...
>
>You have to admit there's a problem when someone like Bill Cosby would
>be eligible for some of the money that's being talked about being
>given to those whose ancestors were slaves. As would other people like
>Barack Obama or Oprah Winfrey.

Are you serious concerning Obama? Because we went all through this in
2008-2016 and Obama's father came from Kenya while Obama's mother was
the umpteen-granddaughter of SLAVE OWNERS.

So even if this daffy scheme were adopted by his history he'd be a
payer not a receiver.

But then I know where my family came from going back to Europe and MY
direct ancestors came from Germany -> NY -> WI -> MN -> WA which as
you might have observed include no slave states at any point in the
list. (I know Mickey doesn't consider indentured servitude slavery so
by her standards I should be off the hook but then even were her silly
scheme to be adopted as a Canadian - of American heritage to be sure -
I'd be off the hook. Other familial lines also have a similar list and
we haven't yet found any in ANY of the former Confederate states
except for one set of cousins who have lived in AR since the post
Vietnam era)

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On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 07:21:06 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
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>>You have to admit there's a problem when someone like Bill Cosby would
>>be eligible for some of the money that's being talked about being
>>given to those whose ancestors were slaves. As would other people like
>>Barack Obama or Oprah Winfrey.
>
>Dear Ruler didn't have ancestors who were slaves.

Neither does Obama - though he DOES have ancestors who OWNED slaves

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 by: The Horny Goat - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 06:16 UTC

On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 11:39:26 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

>As if giving African Americans any amount of money is truly going to
>equal the playing field the way they claim to want. Sure, some will
>put the money to good use and get themselves a good job and set their
>kids up for success, but many (perhaps most) won't do that. So we will
>be in the same situation in a few generations and then what? Come back
>to ask for more to try and fix the situation? Or admit that a lack of
>money isn't the real issue holding many of them back and maybe another
>approach should be tried. Or at least put the money to better use than
>just giving it out like providing better educational opportunities
>that leads to real jobs so kids don't end up joining gangs or dealing
>drugs.

As was found on Canadian Indian reservations when they started to give
a grant to kids coming of age. They purchased a LOT of fast cars and
pickup trucks (not so much gangsters or drug lords).

These days they have something similar but it's payments to colleges
and universities.....

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The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> writes:

> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 03:05:55 +0000 (UTC),
> MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply (Micky DuPree) wrote:

>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> writes:

>>> So how many people who supposedly are white are going to be looking
>>> into their ancestors to show they are derived from Slave stock and
>>> hence deserving of their share of this money.
>>
>> If you've managed to pass for white all your life, then you've
>> managed to duck out of the problem.
>
> While I'm certainly not going to be lining up for this, I am equally
> well aware that there were plenty of early colonies (including where
> my 7x great-grandfather settled) where a 5 year indenture to pay off
> the cost of their trans-Atlantic shipment was the norm.
>
> OBVIOUSLY I'm the wrong color skin for you and your friends to qualify
> as 'descendents for former slaves" even though it's factually true.

So who are my "friends" exactly?

I'm pretty sure that it's possible for current white trafficked people
to sue for civil damages against the ones who trafficked in them even
today, although I imagine that's complicated by criminal charges
(against both them and the traffickers).

But the overall point is that the intergenerational damages inflicted
first by law and later by tacit codes of unequal enforcement of the law
were not imposed on those who managed to get out from under the "color
bar." And to your point about indentured servitude, there's a great
scene in, I believe, the second episode of _Roots_, where the white
people of the plantation are genteely discussing such issues while the
"help" moves about in the background. The plantation owner turns to the
plantation foreman (played by Vic Morrow), and says something like
(forgive the paraphrasing, as I can't find a free version to quote),
"You yourself knew servitude, didn't you?" The foreman says, "Yes, but
when my time was up, I was as free as any man by law and recognition.
But even if he runs, a black man will never escape the color of his
skin."

My understanding is that the reparations being discussed now in
California aren't even about slavery per se, but about the more recent
practices of both codified and uncodified "redlining." Some of the
former was within the lifetimes of people still alive today, and the
latter continues on in various forms. Where the state has had its hand
in same, the state should own up to it as an institution.

-Micky

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Micky DuPree <MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:

>. . .

>But the overall point is that the intergenerational damages inflicted
>first by law and later by tacit codes of unequal enforcement of the law
>were not imposed on those who managed to get out from under the "color
>bar." . . .

There's no justice in recovering for an injury suffered by someone else
for something you did not personally experience.

>My understanding is that the reparations being discussed now in
>California aren't even about slavery per se, but about the more recent
>practices of both codified and uncodified "redlining." Some of the
>former was within the lifetimes of people still alive today, and the
>latter continues on in various forms. Where the state has had its hand
>in same, the state should own up to it as an institution.

My understanding is that black people who suffered an injury at the
hands of government have access to the courts, so let them prepare a
legal case and try to recover. What does that have to do with
reparations, which would be recovering from an injury suffered by
someone else?

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On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 04:33:27 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>Micky DuPree <MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:
>
>>. . .
>
>>But the overall point is that the intergenerational damages inflicted
>>first by law and later by tacit codes of unequal enforcement of the law
>>were not imposed on those who managed to get out from under the "color
>>bar." . . .
>
>There's no justice in recovering for an injury suffered by someone else
>for something you did not personally experience.
>

As if this was really about justice or could be given that not
everyone experienced the same setbacks or enabling. Even those
complaining about how all white people experienced the benefits of
white society also experienced some of those same benefits.

>>My understanding is that the reparations being discussed now in
>>California aren't even about slavery per se, but about the more recent
>>practices of both codified and uncodified "redlining." Some of the
>>former was within the lifetimes of people still alive today, and the
>>latter continues on in various forms. Where the state has had its hand
>>in same, the state should own up to it as an institution.
>
>My understanding is that black people who suffered an injury at the
>hands of government have access to the courts, so let them prepare a
>legal case and try to recover. What does that have to do with
>reparations, which would be recovering from an injury suffered by
>someone else?

Why go through the long process of getting money and require them to
do so individually) when they can instead complain loudly enough that
the government will effectively buy them off?

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