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 by: BTR1701 - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 03:26 UTC

Bee Article from 2017:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0

Actual serious publication, 2023:

Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to be a
white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.

According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in an
act of "covert white supremacy".

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-corrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/

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On 3/31/23 10:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> Bee Article from 2017:

Good to know. At least it gives them something since attempting to be
funny has failed miserably. It would seem more than fifty percent of
those familiar with the site can't even tell it's supposed to be satire,
that's how shit it is.

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
>
> Actual serious publication, 2023:
>
> Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
> Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to be a
> white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
>
> According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
> math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in an
> act of "covert white supremacy".
>
>
> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-corrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
>
>

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On 3/31/2023 11:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> Bee Article from 2017:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
>
> Actual serious publication, 2023:
>
> Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
> Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to be a
> white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
>
> According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
> math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in an
> act of "covert white supremacy".
>
>
> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-corrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/

Well, it's true that *anything* (say, The Lord's Prayer) can be co-opted
as a "white supremacist dog whistle" -- especially when there's the
juicy promise of public uproar.

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On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 03:26:55 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>Bee Article from 2017:
>
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
>
>Actual serious publication, 2023:
>
>Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
>Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to be a
>white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
>
>According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
>math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in an
>act of "covert white supremacy".
>
>
>https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-corrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
>
As a former math teacher I can see how certain "word problems" might
be objectionable but "2 + 2 = 4" or "sin ^2 (theta) + cos^2 (theta) =
1" (the basic equation of trigonometry) are non-cultural and
non-offensive.

Anybody who would object to either of those shouldn't be allowed out
in public with a pocket calculator

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On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 11:27:10 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
> Bee Article from 2017:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
>
> Actual serious publication, 2023:
>
> Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
> Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to be a
> white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
>
> According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
> math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in an
> act of "covert white supremacy".
>
>
> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-corrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/

To be, or not to be, that is the question - OMCA president Jason To

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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>Bee Article from 2017:

>https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0

>Actual serious publication, 2023:

>Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
>Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to be a
>white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.

>According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
>math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in an
>act of "covert white supremacy".

>https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-corrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/

I had to check the link multiple times to make sure I wasn't reading
satire.

If I understand this, math scores plummetted because anything but math
is being taught to students in math class. This isn't the fault of the
children in any way.

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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> Bee Article from 2017:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
>
> Actual serious publication, 2023:
>
> Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to
be a
white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
>
> According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in
an
act of "covert white supremacy".
>
>
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-corrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
>

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 by: Rhino - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 18:59 UTC

On 2023-04-01 12:59 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 03:26:55 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> Bee Article from 2017:
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
>>
>> Actual serious publication, 2023:
>>
>> Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
>> Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to be a
>> white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
>>
>> According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
>> math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in an
>> act of "covert white supremacy".
>>
>>
>> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-corrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
>>
> As a former math teacher I can see how certain "word problems" might
> be objectionable but "2 + 2 = 4" or "sin ^2 (theta) + cos^2 (theta) =
> 1" (the basic equation of trigonometry) are non-cultural and
> non-offensive.
>
> Anybody who would object to either of those shouldn't be allowed out
> in public with a pocket calculator

Just imagine someone who doesn't believe 2+2=4 building something that
we rely on, like a bridge, car or building!

I'd like to think that no one with such beliefs would ever graduate from
an engineering course but given the way the world is going, that seems
like a faint hope at best. If these irrational idiots like Jason To
continue to prevail, they will probably ensure that the only people
allowed into engineering courses are those who DON'T believe that 2+2=4.
Those same idiots will ensure that the criteria for getting an
engineering degree do NOT include any requirement that the student show
any understanding of "white supremacist math".

--
Rhino

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On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 2:30:01 PM UTC-4, anim8rfsk wrote:
> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> > Bee Article from 2017:
> >
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
> >
> > Actual serious publication, 2023:
> >
> > Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
> Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to
> be a
> white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
> >
> > According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
> math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in
> an
> act of "covert white supremacy".
> >
> >
> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-corrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/

> Unavailable without a subscription

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On 2023-04-01 1:16 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> Bee Article from 2017:
>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
>
>> Actual serious publication, 2023:
>
>> Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
>> Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to be a
>> white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
>
>> According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
>> math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in an
>> act of "covert white supremacy".
>
>> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-corrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
>
> I had to check the link multiple times to make sure I wasn't reading
> satire.
>
> If I understand this, math scores plummetted because anything but math
> is being taught to students in math class. This isn't the fault of the
> children in any way.

Did you read the first article in the series, the one about "progressive
discipline"?

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/how-progressive-discipline-turned-ontario-schools-into-a-battleground/

These people are like termites, infiltrating every "structure" in our
culture with their "woke" nonsense, with the ultimate goal of collapsing
our entire civilization. I know that sounds alarmist but I don't think
there's any other reasonable way to read it.

What puzzles me is that we LET THEM do this. Where are the sane and
sensible people who will finally say enough and dismantle the ludicrous
schemes that the wokesters have established? Or are we just going to go
let them keep going until the legacy of millenia is gone?

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In article <jiog2it8efu6s21bacbu9ms8qok71fjvb8@4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

> On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 03:26:55 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >Bee Article from 2017:
> >
> >https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
> >
> >Actual serious publication, 2023:
> >
> >Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
> >Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to be
> >a
> >white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
> >
> >According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
> >math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in an
> >act of "covert white supremacy".
> >
> >
> >https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-cor
> >rupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
> >
> As a former math teacher I can see how certain "word problems" might
> be objectionable but "2 + 2 = 4" or "sin ^2 (theta) + cos^2 (theta) =
> 1" (the basic equation of trigonometry) are non-cultural and
> non-offensive.
>
> Anybody who would object to either of those shouldn't be allowed out
> in public with a pocket calculator

https://www.campusreform.org/article?id=10005

A math education professor at the University of Illinois argued in a
newly published book that algebraic and geometry skills perpetuate
"unearned privilege" among whites.

Rochelle Gutierrez, a professor at the University of Illinois, made the
claim in a new anthology for math teachers, arguing that teachers must
be aware of the"politics that mathematics brings" in society.

"On many levels, mathematics itself operates as whiteness. Who gets
credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in
mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is
generally viewed as white," Gutierrez argued.

Gutierrez also worries that algebra and geometry perpetuate privilege,
fretting that "curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and
pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by
Greeks and other Europeans".

Math also helps actively perpetuate white privilege too, since the way
our economy places a premium on math skills gives math a form of
"unearned privilege" for math professors, who are disproportionately
white.

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In article <u09uuj$1va04$3@dont-email.me>,
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

> On 2023-04-01 12:59 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 03:26:55 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Bee Article from 2017:
> >>
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
> >>
> >> Actual serious publication, 2023:
> >>
> >> Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
> >> Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to
> >> be a white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
> >>
> >> According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
> >> math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in
> >> an act of "covert white supremacy".
> >>
> >> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-c
> >> orrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
> >>
> > As a former math teacher I can see how certain "word problems" might
> > be objectionable but "2 + 2 = 4" or "sin ^2 (theta) + cos^2 (theta) =
> > 1" (the basic equation of trigonometry) are non-cultural and
> > non-offensive.
> >
> > Anybody who would object to either of those shouldn't be allowed out
> > in public with a pocket calculator
>
> Just imagine someone who doesn't believe 2+2=4 building something that
> we rely on, like a bridge, car or building!

Yeah, I wonder if Jason To would be comfortable flying on a plane
designed by someone who thinks calculus is a sop to white patriarchy?

> I'd like to think that no one with such beliefs would ever graduate from
> an engineering course but given the way the world is going, that seems
> like a faint hope at best. If these irrational idiots like Jason To
> continue to prevail, they will probably ensure that the only people
> allowed into engineering courses are those who DON'T believe that 2+2=4.
> Those same idiots will ensure that the criteria for getting an
> engineering degree do NOT include any requirement that the student show
> any understanding of "white supremacist math".

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On 2023-04-01 2:29 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> Bee Article from 2017:
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
>>
>> Actual serious publication, 2023:
>>
>> Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
> Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to
> be a
> white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
>>
>> According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
> math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in
> an
> act of "covert white supremacy".
>>
>>
> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-corrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
>>
> Unavailable without a subscription
>
No worries, I've got your back! (For some reason, it says I'm entitled
to some free articles every month so I've copy-pasted both the math
article and the previous one in the series into this post, minus the
graphics and the Twitter posts which wouldn't copy.)

======================================================================

How ‘Progressive Discipline’ Turned Ontario Schools into a Battleground

• By Ari Blaff

March 2, 2023 6:30 AM
Editor’s Note: This is the first installment of an ongoing investigation
into Ontario’s public-school system.

A 200-pound Ontario middle schooler was getting ready to pummel his
classmate when a group of teachers escorted him to an office where they
hoped to calm him down — instead, he proceeded to ram into the two
adults, a man and a woman, for the better part of an hour, leaving them
shaken and bruised. He never faced any consequences.
“You should have seen their bruises. The guy’s back is totally messed
up. The girl still has arm issues,” Margaret, a teacher with over a
decade of experience in Ontario’s public schools, told National Review.
Worried about the potential repercussions, the teachers who were
assaulted were not able to physically restrain the student, nor did
senior school administrators expel him.

“All he got was an in-school suspension. His mom came to pick him up,
asked if he wanted dumplings, and they left. There were no
consequences,” Margaret said.

The veteran teacher explained that the administration’s indifference to
staff members being physically assaulted stemmed from the student’s
historical behavior: “That’s his baseline.” Under the school district’s
present approach to discipline, if aggressive and dangerous behavior is
typical for a student, then only behavior that exceeds the norm is dealt
with.

It Wasn’t Always This Way

Just two decades ago, only a fraction of Ontario teachers reported being
physically assaulted in school. Thanks largely to Conservative premier
Mike Harris’s passing the Safe Schools Act in 2000, administrators
adopted a “zero tolerance” policy toward violence. Suspensions and
expulsions rose in subsequent years as the message trickled down that
disruptive behavior would be deterred by “strict rules and mandatory
consequences.”

Growing pushback that Safe Schools unevenly targeted minority groups led
the Ontario Human Rights Commission (OHRC) to investigate allegations of
discrimination in 2005. Two years later, the OHRC reached an agreement
with the succeeding Liberal government of Dalton McGuinty, acknowledging
that the “widespread perception” of current policies “can have a
disproportionate impact on students from racialized communities” that
“can further exacerbate their already disadvantaged position in society.”

The writing was on the wall.

The month the settlement was publicized, the McGuinty government — led
by education minister Kathleen Wynne — introduced the Progressive
Discipline and School Safety bill in a bid to overhaul Safe Schools­.
Within two months, Progressive Discipline received royal assent and took
effect in February 2008.

The new approach marked a radical departure from the traditional view of
school discipline. Henceforth, administrators embraced a “whole-school
approach that utilizes a continuum of prevention programs,
interventions, supports, and consequences to address inappropriate
student behavior,” Ontario’s Ministry of Education announced.
The new model transformed the student-teacher relationship to one in
which the ultimate goal was the creation of “safe, equitable and
inclusive” learning spaces. Progressive Discipline curtailed the ability
of teachers to suspend students and defanged principals of their power
to expel. Instead, educators were encouraged to address “root causes” to
change student behavior.

The effort to prioritize the emotional experience of students over the
need to maintain order had predictable consequences: Whereas only 7
percent of teachers in Ontario schools were the victims of physical
abuse in 2005, by 2017 that number had spiked to 54 percent. This
academic year is on track to become the most violent in history for the
Toronto school district, the largest and most influential in Canada.
The new approach to student discipline, which mirrors the approach
adopted in many big-city public schools in the U.S., made schools
unequivocally more dangerous. A landmark 2021 academic report surveying
thousands of educators found that almost 90 percent reported
experiencing some form of violence in the 2018-2019 school year. The
overwhelming majority of teachers reported harassment and violence
increasing in recent years, in what academics have called an “epidemic
of violence.”

Although school safety has reached new lows, students are no more likely
to face serious consequences, according to publicly available
disciplinary data dating back to 2007. Since the legislative change that
year, the school suspension rates virtually halved from 4.32 percent to
2.21 percent for the 2019-2020 academic year. Expulsions have followed
the same trend.

Simply put, Progressive Discipline deprioritized school safety,
according to over two dozen people from across the province — teachers,
principals, trustees, and concerned parents — who described their
experiences to National Review for this series on Ontario schools.
Educators pulled back as concerns over violence and misbehavior were
systematically disregarded.

“It has progressively become worse and worse,” Robert, an English
teacher and former union representative with 20 years of experience,
admits. “Older teachers were used to something being done right away. If
a student gives you the finger, they’re going home.”
That is no longer the case.

“They basically got licensed to do what they wanted,” Robert said, his
exasperation evident.

The group interviewed by NR represents a wide swath befitting the
ever-diversifying Canadian landscape: men and women; immigrants and
citizens; liberals and conservatives; city and country folk; old and
young; religious and nonreligious; gay and straight.

Many wished to remain anonymous for fear of losing their jobs. Others
who believe Progressive Discipline has unleashed chaos on Ontario
schools refused to speak entirely. Only a few defenders of the approach
agreed to speak on the record.

‘Discipline’ as a Dirty Word

The specific year escapes Robert, but around “2008 or 2009,” terms such
as “restorative justice” began appearing as “discipline” became a dirty
word, driven from educators’ vocabularies. The flourishing of
progressive euphemisms such as “positive discipline” or “redirection”
came into vogue as the traditional model of student behavior, centered
on reward and punishment, fell out of favor. Teachers were now
encouraged to adopt “relational” approaches with students.

Today, students between junior kindergarten and Grade Three can no
longer be suspended even if they threaten to “inflict serious bodily
harm on another person,” swear at a teacher, or bully other students.
The weight of correcting behavior and tolerating distractions has
instead been transferred to overburdened teachers.

Trish, a slender teacher with brown hair and glasses fitting the part,
has been punched twice by a young student. The child had a well-known
history of assaulting students and faculty members, routinely becoming
so enraged that on several occasions Trish was forced to evacuate her
classroom to protect other students while the boy was left to vandalize
the room at will.

School policy has effectively handcuffed Trish.
“When I’m in my class and he picks up chairs to throw across the room,
the only thing I can do is evacuate my students.” Protocol dictates that
Trish must call for a teacher with a Crisis Prevention Institute
training certification, the only staffers permitted to physically
intervene in such cases. The procedure is so constraining that when the
student is assaulting another peer, Trish can only use her body as a shield.

If Trish were to defend herself, it could jeopardize her career. She’s
been teaching for only a handful of years, so Trish has no desire to
“rock the boat” with the administration. “I think nobody wants to do
that because no one wants to put themselves on the line. When he hits
me, I can’t stop him. I have to let it happen because I can’t hold him
or stop him.”


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On 2023-04-01 4:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <jiog2it8efu6s21bacbu9ms8qok71fjvb8@4ax.com>,
> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 03:26:55 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bee Article from 2017:
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
>>>
>>> Actual serious publication, 2023:
>>>
>>> Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
>>> Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to be
>>> a
>>> white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
>>>
>>> According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
>>> math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in an
>>> act of "covert white supremacy".
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-cor
>>> rupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
>>>
>> As a former math teacher I can see how certain "word problems" might
>> be objectionable but "2 + 2 = 4" or "sin ^2 (theta) + cos^2 (theta) =
>> 1" (the basic equation of trigonometry) are non-cultural and
>> non-offensive.
>>
>> Anybody who would object to either of those shouldn't be allowed out
>> in public with a pocket calculator
>
> https://www.campusreform.org/article?id=10005
>
> A math education professor at the University of Illinois argued in a
> newly published book that algebraic and geometry skills perpetuate
> "unearned privilege" among whites.
>
> Rochelle Gutierrez, a professor at the University of Illinois, made the
> claim in a new anthology for math teachers, arguing that teachers must
> be aware of the"politics that mathematics brings" in society.
>
> "On many levels, mathematics itself operates as whiteness. Who gets
> credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in
> mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is
> generally viewed as white," Gutierrez argued.
>
> Gutierrez also worries that algebra and geometry perpetuate privilege,
> fretting that "curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and
> pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by
> Greeks and other Europeans".
>
> Math also helps actively perpetuate white privilege too, since the way
> our economy places a premium on math skills gives math a form of
> "unearned privilege" for math professors, who are disproportionately
> white.

And yet Rochelle Gutierrez, who we might reasonably suspect is not
"white" - popular culture often refers to Hispanics as "brown" - has
somehow triumphed over white supremacy to become a math professor at a
university. How is this even possible in a country where systemic racism
permeates, well, EVERYTHING?

--
Rhino

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On 4/1/23 3:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <jiog2it8efu6s21bacbu9ms8qok71fjvb8@4ax.com>,
> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 03:26:55 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bee Article from 2017:
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
>>>
>>> Actual serious publication, 2023:
>>>
>>> Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
>>> Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to be
>>> a
>>> white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
>>>
>>> According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
>>> math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in an
>>> act of "covert white supremacy".
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-cor
>>> rupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
>>>
>> As a former math teacher I can see how certain "word problems" might
>> be objectionable but "2 + 2 = 4" or "sin ^2 (theta) + cos^2 (theta) =
>> 1" (the basic equation of trigonometry) are non-cultural and
>> non-offensive.
>>
>> Anybody who would object to either of those shouldn't be allowed out
>> in public with a pocket calculator
>
> https://www.campusreform.org/article?id=10005
>
> A math education professor at the University of Illinois argued in a
> newly published book that algebraic and geometry skills perpetuate
> "unearned privilege" among whites.
>
> Rochelle Gutierrez, a professor at the University of Illinois, made the
> claim in a new anthology for math teachers, arguing that teachers must
> be aware of the"politics that mathematics brings" in society.
>
> "On many levels, mathematics itself operates as whiteness. Who gets
> credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in
> mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is
> generally viewed as white," Gutierrez argued.
>
> Gutierrez also worries that algebra and geometry perpetuate privilege,
> fretting that "curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and
> pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by
> Greeks and other Europeans".
>
> Math also helps actively perpetuate white privilege too, since the way
> our economy places a premium on math skills gives math a form of
> "unearned privilege" for math professors, who are disproportionately
> white.

There must be more context to this because to hear you tell it it sounds
like horseshit. Per usual with you of course.

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On 4/1/23 4:07 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <u09uuj$1va04$3@dont-email.me>,
> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-04-01 12:59 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
>>> On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 03:26:55 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bee Article from 2017:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
>>>>
>>>> Actual serious publication, 2023:
>>>>
>>>> Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
>>>> Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to
>>>> be a white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
>>>>
>>>> According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
>>>> math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in
>>>> an act of "covert white supremacy".
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-c
>>>> orrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
>>>>
>>> As a former math teacher I can see how certain "word problems" might
>>> be objectionable but "2 + 2 = 4" or "sin ^2 (theta) + cos^2 (theta) =
>>> 1" (the basic equation of trigonometry) are non-cultural and
>>> non-offensive.
>>>
>>> Anybody who would object to either of those shouldn't be allowed out
>>> in public with a pocket calculator
>>
>> Just imagine someone who doesn't believe 2+2=4 building something that
>> we rely on, like a bridge, car or building!
>
> Yeah, I wonder if Jason To would be comfortable flying on a plane
> designed by someone who thinks calculus is a sop to white patriarchy?

I'm sure this is far more relevant than talking about the fat orange
weasel's indictment, huh. More eunuch behavior.

>> I'd like to think that no one with such beliefs would ever graduate from
>> an engineering course but given the way the world is going, that seems
>> like a faint hope at best. If these irrational idiots like Jason To
>> continue to prevail, they will probably ensure that the only people
>> allowed into engineering courses are those who DON'T believe that 2+2=4.
>> Those same idiots will ensure that the criteria for getting an
>> engineering degree do NOT include any requirement that the student show
>> any understanding of "white supremacist math".

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Rhino wrote:

> On 2023-04-01 4:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <jiog2it8efu6s21bacbu9ms8qok71fjvb8@4ax.com>,
>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 03:26:55 +0000, BTR1701
>>> <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bee Article from 2017:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
>>>>
>>>> Actual serious publication, 2023:
>>>>
>>>> Two plus two no longer equals four, according to
>>>> members of the Ontario Mathematics Coordinators
>>>> Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to be a
>>>> white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic
>>>> mathematical truth.
>>>>
>>>> According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason
>>>> To, proponents of math's political neutrality who use
>>>> the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in an act of "covert
>>>> white supremacy".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-
ideologues-cor
>>>> rupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
>>>>
>>> As a former math teacher I can see how certain "word
>>> problems" might be objectionable but "2 + 2 = 4" or "sin
>>> ^2 (theta) + cos^2 (theta) = 1" (the basic equation of
>>> trigonometry) are non-cultural and non-offensive.
>>>
>>> Anybody who would object to either of those shouldn't be
>>> allowed out in public with a pocket calculator
>>
>> https://www.campusreform.org/article?id=10005
>>
>> A math education professor at the University of Illinois
>> argued in a newly published book that algebraic and
>> geometry skills perpetuate "unearned privilege" among
>> whites.
>>
>> Rochelle Gutierrez, a professor at the University of
>> Illinois, made the claim in a new anthology for math
>> teachers, arguing that teachers must be aware of
>> the"politics that mathematics brings" in society.
>>
>> "On many levels, mathematics itself operates as
>> whiteness. Who gets credit for doing and developing
>> mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is
>> seen as part of the mathematical community is generally
>> viewed as white," Gutierrez argued.
>>
>> Gutierrez also worries that algebra and geometry
>> perpetuate privilege, fretting that "curricula
>> emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi
>> perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely
>> developed by Greeks and other Europeans".
>>
>> Math also helps actively perpetuate white privilege too,
>> since the way our economy places a premium on math skills
>> gives math a form of "unearned privilege" for math
>> professors, who are disproportionately white.
>
> And yet Rochelle Gutierrez, who we might reasonably
> suspect is not "white" - popular culture often refers to
> Hispanics as "brown" - has somehow triumphed over white
> supremacy to become a math professor at a university. How
> is this even possible in a country where systemic racism
> permeates, well, EVERYTHING?
>
She's a math *education* professor.

Which probably means that she's taken all of the current
progressive education doctrine classes plus a few math
classes on the side so she knows how to teach arithmetic
real good.

Check out most of the education degree requirements, and
you'll notice that they are heavy on "how-to-teach" and
sparse on the actual topics you're supposed to be learning
to teach.

Nyssa, who still wonders what all of those "education"
classes that teaching licenses required actually helped
with teaching the subject matter in the classrooms...
maybe courses in self-defense would have been handier?

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 by: Rhino2 - Mon, 3 Apr 2023 00:09 UTC

On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 11:40:46 AM UTC-4, Nyssa wrote:
> Rhino wrote:
>
> > On 2023-04-01 4:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >> In article <jiog2it8efu6s21ba...@4ax.com>,
> >> The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 03:26:55 +0000, BTR1701
> >>> <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Bee Article from 2017:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
> >>>>
> >>>> Actual serious publication, 2023:
> >>>>
> >>>> Two plus two no longer equals four, according to
> >>>> members of the Ontario Mathematics Coordinators
> >>>> Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to be a
> >>>> white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic
> >>>> mathematical truth.
> >>>>
> >>>> According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason
> >>>> To, proponents of math's political neutrality who use
> >>>> the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in an act of "covert
> >>>> white supremacy".
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-
> ideologues-cor
> >>>> rupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
> >>>>
> >>> As a former math teacher I can see how certain "word
> >>> problems" might be objectionable but "2 + 2 = 4" or "sin
> >>> ^2 (theta) + cos^2 (theta) = 1" (the basic equation of
> >>> trigonometry) are non-cultural and non-offensive.
> >>>
> >>> Anybody who would object to either of those shouldn't be
> >>> allowed out in public with a pocket calculator
> >>
> >> https://www.campusreform.org/article?id=10005
> >>
> >> A math education professor at the University of Illinois
> >> argued in a newly published book that algebraic and
> >> geometry skills perpetuate "unearned privilege" among
> >> whites.
> >>
> >> Rochelle Gutierrez, a professor at the University of
> >> Illinois, made the claim in a new anthology for math
> >> teachers, arguing that teachers must be aware of
> >> the"politics that mathematics brings" in society.
> >>
> >> "On many levels, mathematics itself operates as
> >> whiteness. Who gets credit for doing and developing
> >> mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is
> >> seen as part of the mathematical community is generally
> >> viewed as white," Gutierrez argued.
> >>
> >> Gutierrez also worries that algebra and geometry
> >> perpetuate privilege, fretting that "curricula
> >> emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi
> >> perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely
> >> developed by Greeks and other Europeans".
> >>
> >> Math also helps actively perpetuate white privilege too,
> >> since the way our economy places a premium on math skills
> >> gives math a form of "unearned privilege" for math
> >> professors, who are disproportionately white.
> >
> > And yet Rochelle Gutierrez, who we might reasonably
> > suspect is not "white" - popular culture often refers to
> > Hispanics as "brown" - has somehow triumphed over white
> > supremacy to become a math professor at a university. How
> > is this even possible in a country where systemic racism
> > permeates, well, EVERYTHING?
> >
> She's a math *education* professor.
>
Oops, I missed that bit....

> Which probably means that she's taken all of the current
> progressive education doctrine classes plus a few math
> classes on the side so she knows how to teach arithmetic
> real good.
>
> Check out most of the education degree requirements, and
> you'll notice that they are heavy on "how-to-teach" and
> sparse on the actual topics you're supposed to be learning
> to teach.
>
> Nyssa, who still wonders what all of those "education"
> classes that teaching licenses required actually helped
> with teaching the subject matter in the classrooms...
> maybe courses in self-defense would have been handier?

Those who can, do
Those who can't, teach
Those who can't teach, learn how to teach but never learn the actual subject

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In article <bbb30a21-8a30-4d1e-9030-1b4f819da4f4n@googlegroups.com>,
Rhino2 <hughmunguscan@gmail.com> wrote:

> Those who can, do
> Those who can't, teach
> Those who can't teach, learn how to teach but never learn the actual subject

Those who can, do
Those who can't, teach
Those who can't teach, teach gym

-- Credited to Dick Cavett

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In article <065e244c-130e-4d22-83d3-bb736ac1a7fan@googlegroups.com>,
RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, 1 April 2023 at 11:32:33 UTC-4, moviePig wrote:
> > On 3/31/2023 11:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > > Bee Article from 2017:
> > >
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
> > >
> > > Actual serious publication, 2023:
> > >
> > > Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
> > > Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to
> > > be a white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
> > >
> > > According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
> > > math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in
> > > an act of "covert white supremacy".
> > >
> > > https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-
> > > corrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/

> > Well, it's true that *anything* (say, The Lord's Prayer) can be co-opted
> > as a "white supremacist dog whistle" -- especially when there's the
> > juicy promise of public uproar.
>
> Especially by the insane leftists who think up this nonsense.

They just call anything that gets traction against their nonsense "a
white supremacy dogwhistle".

"2 + 2 = 4" was working against their "math is racist" idiocy, so it
just gets declared a "code word for white supremacy". That way they can
dismiss it without having to address it on its merits.

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Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> On 2023-04-01 2:29 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> Bee Article from 2017:
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
>>>
>>> Actual serious publication, 2023:
>>>
>>> Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
>> Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to
>> be a
>> white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
>>>
>>> According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
>> math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in
>> an
>> act of "covert white supremacy".
>>>
>>>
>> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-corrupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
>>>
>> Unavailable without a subscription
>>
> No worries, I've got your back! (For some reason, it says I'm entitled
> to some free articles every month so I've copy-pasted both the math
> article and the previous one in the series into this post, minus the
> graphics and the Twitter posts which wouldn't copy.)
>
>

Thanks! Much appreciated.

These people are Cray Cray.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 14:59:30 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

>I'd like to think that no one with such beliefs would ever graduate from
>an engineering course but given the way the world is going, that seems
>like a faint hope at best. If these irrational idiots like Jason To
>continue to prevail, they will probably ensure that the only people
>allowed into engineering courses are those who DON'T believe that 2+2=4.
>Those same idiots will ensure that the criteria for getting an
>engineering degree do NOT include any requirement that the student show
>any understanding of "white supremacist math".
>
Look at the top 10 list in the Waterloo Math Contest for the last 5
years and tell me you think that's a sign of 'white supremacy.

(rot 13'd to prevent anybody thinking I'm bragging though it's true)
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 by: The Horny Goat - Mon, 3 Apr 2023 07:45 UTC

On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 15:28:23 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

>https://www.nationalreview.com/news/how-progressive-discipline-turned-ontario-schools-into-a-battleground/
>
>These people are like termites, infiltrating every "structure" in our
>culture with their "woke" nonsense, with the ultimate goal of collapsing
>our entire civilization. I know that sounds alarmist but I don't think
>there's any other reasonable way to read it.
>
>What puzzles me is that we LET THEM do this. Where are the sane and
>sensible people who will finally say enough and dismantle the ludicrous
>schemes that the wokesters have established? Or are we just going to go
>let them keep going until the legacy of millenia is gone?

One of my hobbies is municipal politics and I've been attending (and
speaking in public input) at my local municipal council for 20+ years
now. I'm red hot because one of the presentations to Council tomorrow
night is from the lcoal YWCA which is fine BUT when you read their
presentation notes it's the fully hardcore "equity" agenda spiel.

If you care it's at
https://app.dnv.org/OpenDocument/Default.aspx?docNum=5969932
on pages 19-78 and if Council does anything but "receive" their report
(which doesn't commit Council to actually DO anything based on it I
can be counted on to "lose it completely")

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On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 13:48:21 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>"On many levels, mathematics itself operates as whiteness. Who gets
>credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in
>mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is
>generally viewed as white," Gutierrez argued.

At least in Canada these days that might be true but it's just as
likely to be dominated by Asians.

Bottom line is there is nothing intrinsically racist in mathematics
that anybody of any background can't master and I say that as someone
both with a math degree and as a former math teacher.

And no question mathematics is just as central to nearly all the
engineering disciplines and most of chemistry and physics.

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On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 13:48:21 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <jiog2it8efu6s21bacbu9ms8qok71fjvb8@4ax.com>,
> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 03:26:55 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Bee Article from 2017:
>> >
>> >https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fdx07vai1eo5cy/BeeMath.png?dl=0
>> >
>> >Actual serious publication, 2023:
>> >
>> >Two plus two no longer equals four, according to members of the Ontario
>> >Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA), who consider the equation to be
>> >a
>> >white supremacist dog whistle instead of a basic mathematical truth.
>> >
>> >According to a webinar created by OMCA president Jason To, proponents of
>> >math's political neutrality who use the phrase "2 + 2 = 4" are engaged in an
>> >act of "covert white supremacy".
>> >
>> >
>> >https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22white-supremacy-how-woke-ideologues-cor
>> >rupted-canadas-math-curriculum/
>> >
>> As a former math teacher I can see how certain "word problems" might
>> be objectionable but "2 + 2 = 4" or "sin ^2 (theta) + cos^2 (theta) =
>> 1" (the basic equation of trigonometry) are non-cultural and
>> non-offensive.
>>
>> Anybody who would object to either of those shouldn't be allowed out
>> in public with a pocket calculator
>
>https://www.campusreform.org/article?id=10005
>
>A math education professor at the University of Illinois argued in a
>newly published book that algebraic and geometry skills perpetuate
>"unearned privilege" among whites.
>
>Rochelle Gutierrez, a professor at the University of Illinois, made the
>claim in a new anthology for math teachers, arguing that teachers must
>be aware of the"politics that mathematics brings" in society.
>
>"On many levels, mathematics itself operates as whiteness. Who gets
>credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in
>mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is
>generally viewed as white," Gutierrez argued.
>
>Gutierrez also worries that algebra and geometry perpetuate privilege,
>fretting that "curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and
>pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by
>Greeks and other Europeans".
>
>Math also helps actively perpetuate white privilege too, since the way
>our economy places a premium on math skills gives math a form of
>"unearned privilege" for math professors, who are disproportionately
>white.

Here's the faculty directory from my alma mater - does this look like
a group "dominated by white privilege"?

https://www.math.ubc.ca/about-our-department/directory#quickset-directory6

Look at the list of names on the 'faculty' 'postdoctoral fellows' and
'graduate students' tabs to see whether Gutierrez has a leg to stand
on. I say he does NOT.

(In fairness since I don't believe you folks have the time to check
ALL math professors that link gives the names of the department I
myself graduated from some 40 years ago)

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